Transgender Ideology and Christianity in the Nashville School Shooting | Audrey Hale Case Analysis
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A lot of people were tormented and tortured in school. I wore a monstrosity called a Milwaukee brace due to scoliosis, and for the 4 years I wore that, I was laughed at, tripped, books knocked out of my hands, and emotionally tortured. Back then, the braces were very heavy, and it made getting down on the floor to pick something up difficult and getting back up slow, painful and awkward, all while people laughed at me, called me names, and said nobody would ever want me. And this was daily, and not one teacher ever said, “stop.” There were multiple times I wanted to die rather than go to school one more day. But I held on, and I became a nurse, because I knew what it was like to need help and not get it. Survival is the best revenge, not shooting innocent 8 year olds who don’t even know who you are. Audrey Hale was a coward and a murderer. Nothing else she was, no diagnosis she had could ever make what she did okay.
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That is horrible. I went to a Christian school and suffered abuse and not one Christian said stop. I tackle it by being childfree. Bullying will always happen unfortunately. I wish people would actually be strong and call it out, it would make a big difference
Well said, thank you for sharing! And I'm sorry for the cruelty you had to endure. I was always the weird kid throughout school (even now 😅), and the few times I was loquacious enough to approach people I was insulted, told to mind my own business, or made fun of (loudly enough for the entire class to hear, of course) for how I looked or acted. This was on top of all the other times I was picked on or called ugly when I was keeping to myself. Otherwise I was shunned, with just a small group of other fellow outsiders to commiserate with.
I've kept my distance from people and am very wary of them when it comes to letting them in to my personal life. I've had people befriend me and then give me the brush-off, out of nowhere throughout the years, even in my adult years, such that I keep even friendly people at arm's length. That said, I still have a sense of compassion for others. I'm also in healthcare after leaving architecture--as a sonographer, to be exact, and on my way to one last round of school to add adult echo and vascular to my current certifications.
Though I don't think I have it in me to be a nurse, I feel the same way you do about caring for others and making them feel comfortable and heard when they're scared and frustrated by a healthcare system that seems to forget them. The pain may never fully go away, but we're still human beings at the end of the day and one absolutely CAN live for themselves and not let their personal pain destroy others. That's what growth is all about! It pains me to know how insufficient our coping mechanisms and methods of conflict resolution among people of all ages but especially adults. There is a real sickness in this country; the way we normalize and even champion hostility and violence here is seems so deeply ingrained that sometimes I wonder if we'll ever disentangle ourselves from it.
I’m so sorry. Your story breaks my heart.
I'm both trans and have struggled with mental health my whole life. But the idea of hurting innocent children has been horrible to me even at my darkest times! There is no excuse.
Obviously you’re an outlier because this woman proves that transgenders want to hurt kids
Right on the money!!!!!
bad ppl should be held accountable regardless of race, ideology or sex.. this was just that a horrible human being
Same, I’m a trans woman and I’ve struggled a lot recently with having schizotypal personality disorder. What that person did was abominable. Gunning down innocent children shouldn’t be acceptable in anyway, shape, or form.
@@The_alchemistress same here, trans and diagnosed w/ schizotypal pd. This is just awful, there's no excuse at all
The fact that the manifesto has not yet been released further strengthens my belief that it was a hate crime.
And when hate crimes are committed by straight people against LGBTQ, you people break out the bible and say it was deserved. I remember the nightclub shootings.
Exactly. They care more about a tranns than 6 murdered elementary school kids.
@@kevinskinner4986 exactly. My neighbor once killed a queer person and the law didnt care. But if a queer person attacked a straight person, even if its self defense, the conservatives go crazy.
They won't allow Christians to be a victim. It goes against their ideology. A day after the shooting Biden declared trans people "the soul of the nation". It's evil all the way up to the top.
He was a Muslim immigrant with Afghan origins...
I was bullied in school, especially junior high, I had no friends, felt so lonely, and other kids could be so cruel. I had thoughts about ways I could physically harm my tormentors but didn't act on it.
Did you ever think of a way to help stop kids being so cruel to eachother? Did anyone ever help you?
@@skagenpige88 no, he wasn't trans enough. 😅
So because of that is it justified to shoot up a school?
@@skagenpige88nobody ever helps, I once helped a poor hopeless blond boy & got bullied even worst by my own race. Then help a redhead before that & got nearly killed for it.
@@bucktooth002 You dont think you helped?
You're spot on, Dr Grande. If we are to look at all people equally, this person's background doesn't matter... they killed innocent children. No one can rationalize that away.
It's a hate crime! She specifically targeted a Christian school!
@@florinvid He! Stop supporting their mental illness.
The only reason people try to rationalize these horrible and senseless attacks is because they want to understand why they happen and what we can do to stop it. I get picking apart the killer's background so that we can look for the red flags before this happens, but the poor innocent people and children who died get lost in the killer's story. It's so sad
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She targeted the school that told her she was sinning and evil because she was LGBT. I hate what she did, but I like to understand why.
@@lindaraezer3013 She WAS evil!
I’m a gay guy and although most people in 2023 don’t care, I have been the object of abuse. I’ve been the subject of jokes, lectures, derogatory language, and (from my mom) some well meaning but really intrusive questions. And that makes me like everyone else on the planet. Who hasn’t been the subject of abuse? We don’t get to kill kids because our feelings have been hurt.
Thank you for adding "who hasn't been the subject "?
That's the difference between you and a selfish m*rderer. Or m*ntally ill m*rderer.
You realized it's not all about you.
A person she k*lied could have had it worse than her and we wouldn't have a slight clue.
I’m with you brother. I just literally don’t get it-I was bullied too, and those times still cause me pain sometimes-like arthritis aches in the rain lol. But I would have never, ever considered hurting someone else because I got hurt. That’s what I don’t get about people like this. I don’t know how they make that leap from “I hurt” to “ I want to make someone else hurt too.”
I am not gay or trans or Bi, or gender confused, I am a normal woman. I was also bullied in school, abused by nuns and teachers, bullied at home by siblings, and also suffered emotional trauma i my teen years BUT i never even thought to getting even and going back to these places in my past and hurting the people who hurt me, and particularly never wanted to kill children because I was hurt as a child. That is the most cowardly act - to kill innocent children who did you no wrong and who cannot defend themselves in any way. That crime is a HATE CRIME targeting the victims because they were Christians.
You are correct it’s not an excuse but her mental health needs to be looked at as to why this happened and how another mentally unstable person has fire arms to kill so many innocent people. I don’t justify her actions but feel the way she was treated as a child and forcing her to be something she did feel she was played a Hugh role in causing more mental instability.
@@CeeOlleab388 respectful language-not “normal” woman…
I was bullied so bad that I wanted to take my own life by age 12. I'm also on the spectrum. But I never wanted to ruin lives for a bunch of innocent people because of my issues. I mean if you feel you need to go then do what you need to do without hurting people. All she did was prove to bullies that she was a bad person.
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Shooting is fake
I agree with you completely. Sadistic killer is what she is. The amount of pain she has caused on people who had nothing to do with her own personal trauma is insane. I don’t think any of her victims family will ever comprehend
She was a fully developed adult, she was analysing the building and wearing a suspender vest (potentially for further ammo), she preplanned this extensively. I was bullied all through a religious highschool but I don't want to go harm others, she is fully responsible and in no way a victim in this situation she caused.
Edited to change the suspender from previously stating bulletproof vest as I was wrong. I also want to point out I feel there needs further guidance and support for mental health in schools and restriction on gun laws in America, I state this in below comments.
Also, thanks for the likes and comments for interesting discussions!
Your comment makes a lot of sense. If she was trying to get back at the school she went to, until she was 11, for bullying her, WHY was her next targets the mall, and her own family members? She is just another school shooter.
Why bulletproof vest if she wanted to die? I always think if they feel they are on suicide mission, why not just do suicide before you murder innocents.
Thank you
If killing children was justified by horrible school experiences, then almost every kid who was subjected to Catholic schools would have been out shooting. No sympathy for this killer.
Everyone says they got bullied but very few actually suffer long term for it. She also had autism spectrum disorder which effects her far more than you.
Bravo to you for telling the truth. We need to vilify these murderers; not excuse their reprehensible behavior.
Who is excusing the behavior? Even if you were trying to explain why she might have done this, it is not the same thing as excusing it. If she had lived, she should have been treated like all other disgusting murderers no matter how she came to this point.
American gun supporters: "iTsNOTThEGuN!WeNeEdToGeTtOtHeRooTCauSe!"
Also American gun supporters: "THeYwEREjUsTEVILaNdTALkINGaBOUTmEnTaLHeaLtHisJuStMaKiNgExCuSeSfOrThem!"
Yall don't want to make up your minds about it and actually do anything because then you'd see that maybe you've been part of the problem this whole time. It's really the tolerance of Americans that is the evil.
@@hannahm7373 He.
OK, faceless white people, where are all of your racist insults about how, "This is these people's culture?!"
The Usual Suspects, look at the statistics, it's these people's culture!
That's what white people always say!
I’m as far left as it gets and everyone I know are horrified. Nobody is defending that monster.
Don't tell me that she did this because someone didn't allow her to "be who she was", she was 28 years old, had an education and a career. She could live alone and live how she liked. This was a hate crime that targeted children and elderly people.
It's horrifying how people have either been totally silent about the killer, or attempt to pain her as a victim of oppression. You are a Light in the darkness by speaking rationally and honestly about this tragedy
I have ASD, and this is absolutely frightening to me. It’s implying that people with Autism are ticking time bombs who want to hurt people, and that just simply want to hurt innocent people. I was bullied in school, but I never would go back and hurt innocent people, especially children, and could never fathom hurting a child, her victims didn’t even know how her, much less bully her
Also autistic and same. We’re more likely to be victims of violence rather than perpetrators.
Thank you. Well spoken.
As someone with Autism I fully agree
As a trans man, I think I'm feeling something similar.
Same here, friend.
I have Aspergers and even though ive been at my lowest I have never ever wanted to hurt people.
I don't know how anyone can defend the actions of the shooter. Regardless of religion, sexuality or anything else. Saying it's the victim's fault is total lunacy. Sadly, it's the world we live in now and it's truly unnerving. Great video as always Dr. Grande.
Defending the killer isn’t victim blaming, it could just be saying they’re collateral damage
@@whiteshadow8520 what a perverted and disgusting way of thinking , children aren't collateral damage , the fact that you even type this makes me think you sympathise with this killer.
She murdered children, there should be no victim blaming or thinking of them as collateral damage.
Christ some people are just twisted c*** s
@@whiteshadow8520 so you support children being killed?
Who is defending anyone?
Edit: Woah. Just got to that part in the video. Didn't realize he talked about people literally taking her side. That's .... gross as hell. No one has the right to go around killing nine year olds.
Original Message: To be fair, mate, someone can believe a child murderer is a garbage person while still exploring the possible causes for their atrocities. There are always causes. What helped cause this garbage person to do this? Did this Christian private school maybe teach a perspective that caused the garbage person to hate who they were naturally? Transgenderism is a condition that has been proven to exist through the mere fact that men's brains and women's brains are different and that sometimes the gender of a human baby doesn't fully transition from female to male in the womb. Sometimes a female brain is in a male's body or vice versa. This is the reality that everyone lives in. People who are teaching gay people and trans people (both proven to exist and live healthy lives when accepted for who they are) that they are abominations and that they're doomed to scream and cry and gasp and writhe and ask for death and never be given it in a mythological place called hell, that's going to cause severe damage to those people. The shooter is a garbage person, regardless of their gender. But looking at the possible causes so as to learn from them is important and valuable for society. It's not the victims' faults for being murdered just because we're looking for possible causes to learn from.
She committed a hate crime
The ENDING. THANK YOU FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT. I keep seeing these videos people supporting her and it’s unreal. Regardless of her hurts she hurts so many innocent people and children
The only thing I see are right wingers claiming someone is supporting her but I’ve never seen anyone actually supporting her
@MeatCatCheesyBlaster I have. I've legit seen people make tik toks saying that those Christian kids deserved what they got. And that maybe your beliefs and anti Trans bills are why your kids got shot.
That's unacceptable. People caring more about her gender identity than the fact she murdered kids
I got into an argument with a pro trans supporter backing the waste of space killer. The person was so delusional. I thought I lost brain cells.
@@MissKateKatie Of course it's unacceptable but people are playing up those instances of unacceptable behaviour as some kind of norm. For example the words "THANKFULLY SOME SAID IT" implies not a lot of people do.
I don't think that so many people are supporting her actions. But many people see her humanity and have personal experiences with the cruel and bigoted christian cult themselves.
Agree wholeheartedly. No amount of personal pain can justify a person wanting to kill children and other defenseless people, and inflict so much pain on the family and friends of the deceased. This is someone who simply doesn't care about others and can't see other people's pain, and who needed to go out in a big way because she had not otherwise "left her mark on society" before she left.
No one is justifying the shooting! That claim is a ridiculous straw man.
I agree with your comment 100%. Well written. I haven't heard anybody trying to justify the shooting. Not on the far left, as Dr.Grande mentioned OR on the far right.
@@Johnny.Fedora some people are trying.
This is evidence that a right to life DEMANDS a right to death. Solving the problem will require a compassionate euthanasia program for those who don't want to live.
@@Benji-jj2bg I have not heard people do so but would not be surprised if some try to bank on that " news" or otherwise.
The police did a great job. They didn't hesitate one bit. They are real heroes.
As a cop, I can tell,you, we hate the idea of this, but fantasie about this situation. There is no fucking way you can say the officers were wrong. They removed an active threat. They did what was more than expected of the,
@@toddkorson8207 of course, I cannot imagine how horrible it must be to be in that situation, but many more lives might have been lost if the police did not act as they did. Respect to those facing danger like this on the front line🙏
White cops wont hesitate to protect the children unlike those cowards in uvalde.
The cops did a phenomenal job in this case. No hesitation. Such a sad situation but it could have been much worse
Englebert did exactly what needed doing. He kept the others from losing their minds, they were pretty unprofessional.
No matter what you went through in life, there is no justification to take innocent 9 year olds to the grave with you.
Many people need to live their lives in mental institutions. I wish that these institutions were still available to protect the public and people like this woman 😢
Don't you mean: "... protect the public & people FROM this woman"...?
I think everyone needs a yearly mental evaluation at this point tbh
I have no words. Why go after little kids and innocent people if you want to die? Glad the cops stopped her.
Exactly. It’s so fucking wrong
Yes they need to just commit suicide. It’s absolutely evil to take our children
Because they hate reality and everyone in it. No more spiteful target than the most innocent among us.
Maybe it depends if a suicidal person is narcissistic or not. A lack of empathy and sense of grandiosity might lead to them committing murders before suicide by cop.
So glad the cops were able to put her down quickly.
Glad police took care of the problem quickly. We won't have to endure years of courtroom drama.
Right? Weird how they didn't wait outside for the shooter to run out of ammo.
Did they? That is not what I heard. They were warned about a possible shooting and they ignored it. Bad policing.
@@patrickquinlan3056 they were informed of a person with intent to harm themselves from what I heard. While that should get a prompt response, it's not like they were told that there was an active shooter and ignored it.
@@globes179 well you do have to understand she wasn’t a white male..Albeit she was trying to become one, which statistically speaking doesn’t make her an outlier in school shootings.
@@placebomandingo2095 Yes, they were informed yet they did nothing with the result being another insane school shooting. That is a failure of policing, which we have seen is perfectly normal in America. Where I come from that is called incompetence. I could go on and point out that the police have demonstrated cowardice already in a previous school shooting. Do I need to remind you of that atrocity as well? Wake up!
Bullies had been around in schools forever more. Even the teachers are afraid of them. I am 73 years old, I was bullied because I was skinny, and was also the smartest child in the whole school. One day I got tired of being called all kinds of names, and I confronted one the worst bullied. I had one of those old, long rulers in my hand, I waited until he was by himself, and hit him so hard calling out loud all the awful names he called me. From that day on, No One ever called me names. I endured abuse for a long time, due to jealousy against me. I don't condone this behavior, but you have to stand up before those deranged kids in school. This young woman, was getting ready to kill, and destroy innocent children, instead of seeking help for the hatred she was caring inside. There is No excuse for what she did. I feel very sad for the parents pain and suffering they're going through, including the Mother of this young woman who made a choice to take other's lives. She hated Church, God only knows why, and she became a criminal, for so she planned.😢😢
Thank goodness you had a ruler in your hand instead of a gun. Who knows what would have happened when you decided you had had enough.
Another detail if she was under transgender therapy in my opinion treatment for women it is testosterone, which producer anger and strenth in women.
Two things I noticed in the video of Audrey's attack on the school. First, the increasing militarization of these shooters, wearing camouflage clothing, load bearing vests and large numbers of weapons. Second the calm way in which she walks along the corridor, weapon at the ready, seemingly unconcerned with the sound of alarms and people screaming in nearby offices. But I agree with your analysis, she was nothing more than a cold blooded, sadistic killer.
It's all fake, that's why.
Those loners play a lot of shooting video games or watch movies about shooting or crimes.
@@herciliaday231 I personally enjoy my fair share however some people with THAT kind of mentality shouldn’t engage in it at all if they got a peanut gallery for a psyche. One look in her eyes told me everything...darkness.🌓
@@herciliaday231 like billions of other ppl including myself... it's not the films nor the videogames, it's the childhood vakxxxxxines and psychiatric drugs.
Schools need proper security already!!
You’re right Dr. Grande. It’s disgusting that anyone could try to justify someone murdering innocent children. There’s nothing that could make that okay. The shooter is a sadistic person no matter their “reasons”. Families are devastated and the children that survived will never be the same. School is a place children and teens spend so much time and they deserve to feel safe. But someone wants to die and makes everyone else to go down with them too. Things are beyond out of control.
She told her friend and she told the Police. There was some warning here.
YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE FOUND IT FINNY TO CONSTANTLY HARASS TRANS COMMUNITY
What? The extreme leaning minds of human history have never had many qualms about dumping millions of lives as a means to and end. It always included children.
Who tf is defending the shooter? Im sorry but i cant imagine even your most hardcore leftist being pro school shooting
@@someoneout-there2165I don't believe the point of this tragic event is that he was trans. Killing innocent people has no excuse. It appears that you are in pain yourself and please know that us rational folks will not hold his actions against the trans community in any manner. Wishing you peace
Such despair is unfathomable.... obviously she needed help.... but why kill others??? What a sad, sad story.... After my husband died, finding a reason to go on was essential. I focused on our dog... who would take care of her?? Who would be there for her if I wasn't there?? Basically, she became my reason to go on. Also, I didn't want to fall apart... I wanted my wonderful husband to be proud of me.... So, 34 years later, I'm still making the most of the life that has been given to me... I treasure every moment 💖 and the wonderful people in my life. Guess it's all about perspective!! :)
"but why kill others???" I can recommend you to watch a video called: "I Was Almost A School Shooter | Aaron Stark | TEDxBoulder"
It's a good way to get a glimpse into the minds of such people.
People like that are often pushed against a wall where they see basically only two choices left: hurt others or hurt themselves.
Time for an update. Also, the entire writings will show a fuller picture. The leak was cherry-picked. There’s a Perry connection, if not directly then indirectly. She had to have known the victim. Probably had thoughts on the cover up. There’s a reason the church wants these writings suppressed.
I am 44 and have dysthymia / Asperger’s Syndrome (Asd). I was high functioning enough over 15 years ago to be an OTR trucker for 5 years. I desperately need supportive services, but because I don’t have Medicaid; I get denied everywhere. It’s not a gun control problem, it’s a mental health problem. The mental health system in this country needs looked at!!
I have been saying this for a long time. We as Americans do not take good care of our people with mental health problems. Then we wonder why things like this happen. We actually get surprised.
We have similar mental health rates to some other countries. The only difference between us and those countries is gun accessibility, especially assault rifle accessibility. This is a gun control problem-keeping guns out of the hands of unstable people.
I totally agree. Mental health is a big problem in our society incl Australia.
I think it's both. It doesn't have to be one or the other, but easy access to murder weapons doesn't help us at all. The fact that she was able to obtain 7 weapons at 5 stores within days is a serious problem. If they did a simple check on her, they would have found mental issues. We don't have to make it so easy for these idiots to murder as many innocent people as they can. There is no logical reason to own these military grade weapons either. These are the weapons of choice because they cause the most amount of damage in the shortest amount of time. It's impossible to recover from these gun shots because they destroy/explode your internal organs . This needs to stop & doing nothing isn't working, responsible, or acceptable. The same guns nuts that refuse to take any actions are the ones that want to cut any & all government assistance, like medicaid/healthcare. We have to do something & gun control is the quickest, best, & easiest option.We can't reality fix our healthcare or mental health issues immediately, but we can make it more difficult for these psychopaths to obtain weapons. I'm not anti-gun & there needs to be changes ASAP! It doesn't have to be all or nothing, but that's always the instant reaction when gun control is even brought up. NO ONE IS SUGGESTING NO MORE GUNS! Just a little more common sense.
The NRA or money shouldn't be the priority when making these decisions either.
@@paigea4745 I hate the fixation on "assault rifle accessibility" here. It's a major misnomer.
Because A) an assault rifle is select fire, semi AND full or burst. If you want an assault rifle you need tax stamps and special licenses that most people can't access or afford. The guns used in these shootings are just rifles. Yes they're based on assault rifles but they aren't actually assault rifles.
B) more crime and murder is committed with handguns. They're far more easily accessible, generally cheaper and can kill a soft unarmored defenseless target just as effectively as an ""aSsAuLt RiFlE"
C)I'm annoyed because we foolishly fixate on how dangerous an AR platform rifle is, but we forget that an SKS from the 1950s can shoot from detachable 30 round mags semi auto.
D) There's already background checks Audry passed one, to buy the guns she had. I believe what's needed is more strict standards, maybe even regular checks on gun owners. What would be even nicer is some kind of compulsory organization you have to affiliate with to own a gun, where you're regularly evaluated and trained. That way, the "militia" part of our 2nd ammendment makes just a little more sense because then it will be "well regulated"
I'll leave you with this to think about, my M1 garand shoots a 30.06 round as fast as I can pull the trigger, I have 8 rounds and I can blow through them in maybe 3 seconds or less. It takes about a second to load a fresh clip into its magazine. A 30.06 is big enough and powerful enough to blow a targets joints apart. That gun was used in mainline service for 2 wars, there's no difference between the one I have and the one my grandfather used against the Germans.
My friend owns a cheap AR he's got 30 rounds, takes about the same time to squeeze of 8, maybe less. But tour chances of surviving a hit from 5.56 are far greater than getting hit with a full power cartridge like 30.06 instead of an intermediate round like 5.56 loading takes about the same amount of time, it's quick and easy. Even if he had 8 rounds in each magazine reloads would be inconsequential just like in my m1s case.
However his rifle is significantly different from the ones our police and military use. And even though his is a "cheap" setup it took him like a month to clear the checks and he was into the gun for about 4 grand all said and done.
My point is all guns are dangerous, and that's exactly why I want access to them, if others can get them illegally. If others have been rioting like they have been the past 6 years and if others are shooting up schools and malls and churches then I absolutely do not want to be caught "lackin".
It’s insane that anybody would try to justify her actions…
Are ppl trying to justify it or just pointing out all the reasons mass shootings are so common in the US? Which some take as a justifying said actions. I do know the school has a long history of child sexual assault issues. I can't help but think that plays a role in motivation. As well as lack of mental health care and availability to firearms. I'm a survivor of csa due to Catholicism, and was extremal mental ill as a child. But I had health care and no accses to fire arms. So the probably of shootings is vastly lowered in my country. I also think the fact the killer was a trans male, so identified as male and the fact that it occurred in a state with restrictive laws towards trans ppl, played a role in increasing the likelihood of this tragedy. Murder is murder. And nit excusable. We still have to see what caused it to prevent redcurrant tragedies .
@@iciajay6891 Mass shootings are not "common".
Most are a result of inner-city gang violence or other criminalised populations.
Shootings like this are not common. That's why it is such big news. The world is not as bad as you wish it was.
Agreed and it was a hate crime…
Seriously? I think people just want to understand why and what spurred her to do this.
@@iciajay6891 where can i read the source of the school having a history of the sexual assaults
Very well thought out and articulated. I hadn’t followed the news. This was a comprehensive summary. You’re quite good at this. 😊
Exactly. Everyone has bad experiences in their life. But most individuals do not use their bad experiences as a pathetic excuse to kill people.
Another case of someone's feelings and emotions being more important than others. The fact she said it will make more sense indicates how self-centered she is. As though she's some sort of martyr.
A lot of trans people are self obsessed and autogynephilic. Very mentally ill people that are praised in society now instead of getting actual help. This is the 2nd trans identified public shooter and I doubt it will stop there unfortunately...
Yep. Another self-important, attention seeking narcissist who is trying to play victim and martyr. Smh.
Couldn’t agree more 🎯
There are always more feelings beneath the disorder and comorbidities that would impulse a person to do harm, whether to self or others. Any person who gets impulsed to do harm needs to self assess to stop the runaway impulses. One of the major feelings that helps to push someone to violence is self hatred and feeling condemned, an off-shoot of shame. It takes time to deal with it and see it, the personal pain can seem unbearable at times, but it's the better choice to preserve the life that has only had some formative misadventure to cause it to be such a heavy cross to bear. I've had stored up beliefs from my earliest life that have played on my mind for decades and I suspect there are many folks out there who will have it pop up to affect how they've viewed life - it can turn upside down and very confusing.
@whalesong999 unfortunately, u have to be self-aware of your issues rather than hiding behind excuses not to get help. That's a bridge to far for those who rather hide and push things under the rug.
I keep hearing she resented being forced to attend the school...but if she was 28, it was 16 or more years ago...that's a long time to hold on to resentment.
Yes. And as a now adult, it was HER duty to seek treatment to understand and get past her childhood "traumas". There is no manifesto that will make her actions here reasonable or justified.
Not to mention it was an elementary school. Who feels resentment about what elementary school they went to? I only resented high school.
Anyway I don't buy any of those excuses. It was for attention, plain and simple. If a person has serious grievances they wouldn't target random school kids, they would find a more worthy target.
Well, it would have been 12 years ago, but still too long & irrelevant for a grudge- Psychopaths have never made sense or seen true reality though- just a deranged fantasy they are in control of -
No sense at all :(
Are you trying to analyze someone with a psychiatric disorder as if they're just an ordinary person?
Lots of people share their speculations as if they know for sure they are correct. And that is one speculation that has gained traction. We'll know more when her manifesto is released. Whatever prompted her to do this it sure wasn't anything reasonable.
Such a sad & horrific tragedy. Just found ur channel & ur voice is so calm & soothing. Ty 4 ur work & God bless
Nice presentation Dr Grande. I always feel a little bit enlightened after your vids. Thanks.
Reading that statement from the "Trans Resistance Network" was genuinely sickening. Two sentences about the victims, then paragraphs of justifying the actions of the killer, and then saying the six murder victims and the fact that the murder was "driven" to do this were equal tragedies… just utterly unbelievable, and unforgivable.
@@kimberlyevers7031 agreed. they are the scrouge of society
Getting worse too, and not just in the US. Look at what went on in NZ over the weekend.
I thought the same thing. I’m also curious to know if she was taking any hormones and how long if so. What happens when you treat ASD or mental illness with hormones and affirmations instead?
@@kimberlyevers7031 hear! Hear!
True. But don’t stop there. If you’re asking stop of hate-fueled statements, you’re only half right. Fox News described the killer as “Audrey Hale, a transgender” person. This only fuels the hatred towards transgender people (notice they don’t mention the killer as in the autism spectrum ), so they knowingly target only one particular aspect of identity as to vilify and attribute the killings to it. Also equally as disgusting.
I totally agree with you Dr. Their is no excuse for killing innocent people, especially, children. That’s a whole other kind of evil to do that!
That's the whole point of their movement.
@@bunille their movement??
@@donaldewert2332 I might get attacked for saying this, as to which it's proving the point, but the trans movement specifically is targeting kids who are impressionable and naive and told that liking the opposite stereotypes means you need to hate your body, hate yourself, and mutilate healthy body parts because you are not yourself. Suicidality rate is still the same, if not higher after transitioning. The whole point of the movement is to create dead kids and then project and blame everyone else for it when they're the ones who are trying to protect the kids from senseless harm.
@@bunille👎
@@bunille Who the Fuck are "They" and what "movement".
My current hypothesis about the motives why Audrey Hale did these horrible things was that the narrow minded and bigott fundamental christians there did not accept Audrey Hale, did not try to understand and help Audrey Hale. And with their evil fetish of fire arms enabled Audrey Hale to execute the mass shooting.
And that is "the movement" all civilized people need to fight !
Always well thought thru content!!!! Thank you !!!☝🙏🤘💪😎
If she wanted to commit suicide, she should have just done it, she didn’t need to kill others & she didn’t need to commit suicide by police, thus probably causing them trauma too. Too many crazies today who think their feelings & their rights are more important than anyone else’s, like they are the only people who ever had anything bad happen to them.
I think she wanted to go through the power process
There is no excuse for killing innocent children, such a selfish act of violence. TY Dr Grande for your insights. As always, you do an excellent job explaining the unexplainable to us.
''There is no excuse for killing innocent children''. No one can argue that, period. We can debate on who she was, what she wanted to do, what others may have done to her in the past, was it a hate crime, a sadistic act, etc but at the end of the day no matter how much someone have being bullied and suffered in his life, killing 9yo kids is crossing the line and become a monster even if he\she have being a victim in the past. Υou can have all the right in the world, but lose it the way you claim it.
@@savagery546 with what ? U gotta b more specific.
It's not about excuses....when a person reaches this stage it is a type of psychosis, where retribution becomes the only way to feel satisfied with the pain inflicted on her. Psychopathy itself is a mental disorder. None of this is about excuses, people try to take away their pain in different ways, killing is but one.
Your voice of reason and clarity is soothing Dr. Grande. Thank you for your integrity. This world is a better place because of you. ❤️🕊️🤗🌵
I agree. i'm going to donate too. To be honest, it's getting to be that Dr Grande is like the news OUGHT to be - fact based and nuanced
Thank you for this break down.
Audrey should have been able to empathize with the week and vulnerable, being someone who felt mistreated. Instead, she murdered them.
"If you live by the sword, you die by the sword".
Matt 26:52
As a preschool teacher and mother and bullied as a kid. It is hard enough to just get threw 12 grades without being picked on for the most ridiculous things, my hair, my glasses, my braces, my clothes you name it. I agree with being who you are but as an adult, they could've been whomever they wanted! There is no excuse and no one was holding them back just the dwellings of the past. I just held my 2 and 3 year olds and I'm very sad to say we have implemented even more security, plans, and drills that is heartbreaking for me to do because of this. Inexcusable isn't even the start of it
Such a powerful message you put forth, Dr. Grande! ♡♡
When you said, "Yet she was the one who carried out the attack. This was a choice she made. She decided to be a killer."
You were so right when you said that her behavior can not be justified! It's absolutely monstrous what she did!!
When you say it CANT be justified....lets say there are people that did the worst things imaginable to her, take all the monstrous things you can think of. Would you still not think there is some justification there?
@@skagenpige88 no. It is never justifiable to kill innocent children because you are mad at someone else. I can’t believe you would even suggest that. You are a sick individual.
Dr. Grande has made his bigotry clear for all to see. It is people like him who are the most dangerous people in the world. A supposed Mental health professional that makes qualified judgements on a person based solely on their actions on one day... and not the sum of that persons psyche and life experiences. After the fact, judgemental psychobabble, designed as click bait for the ignorant. There is no Transgender Ideology. There are just transpeople being hated on every day. One cannot justify murder of innocents. But one can try and understand why it happened. Transpeople get murdered every day, just for who they are and no-one gives a damn. A little compassion goes a long way but it's not the Christian way, it seems. Grande is a bigot.
@@skagenpige88 nope a sick person is a sick person !
@@lisaturtle1106 So if a person kill someone...anything else that the people did to that person before is forgiven and good?
The meticulous planning for this vile crime puts a pit in my stomach. Also a lot of people have religious trauma & don’t go on a killing spree. They get a therapist.
and imagine..... all bc thw stupid yankee history and stupid yankee gun laws
Agree with your statement. But also we do note in society those with repressed religious trauma or trauma of all types have bad outcomes, there are tons of examples. So this lets us look to the future and what we can do for our children to help prevent these possibilities in future.
Nothing is perfect, but we can always learn and do better.
Years ago the shooter with gender dysphoria would’ve received psychological help. Nowadays it’s forbidden to recommend mental assistance where trans issues are involved, leaving the trans community with high suicide rates and mental health issues that we’re told to ignore.
I think a lot of religion is just tradition people hold onto in the culture. It defines their identity. It's a social fabric and how these people unify socially. I'm not adhered to any religion. Ive lived in various places, experiencing very different cultures. Religions as we know in the West are a bit of historically handed down tradition some good bits and pieces that actually make sense and a lot that doesn't. I attended part of my schooling in the deep South. Religion is a huge part if this region's culture, as is football 😄. If you want to see some religious nutters! Head on out into deep Appalachia. These folks with their snake handling and speaking in tongues. Cultish old time ritual behavior. Without a modern formal education, humans are apt to do this stuff. It probably sucks for some kids in strict religious families. That kind of cultish environment might seriously contribute to mental issues. However, most people that participate as Christians are NOT senseless murderers these days (Historically unfortunately people calling themselves Christians were violent). In the context of what recently happened, no exceptions or excuses for what she did to these people. Senseless violence. Pointless. Wrong.
What exactly is “religious trauma”?
Spot on - thanks for breaking this down so succinctly
thank you for your insight & gratuity, Dr. Grande. you handled this topic w grace.
After watching and reading coverage of this event since it happened, I greatly appreciate the fact that you aren't jumping on the "sympathy for a murderer" bandwagon. You've made the most sensible analysis so far, in my opinion.
Yes, no one should feel sympathy for a murderer. That monster killed 6 innocent people. They didn't deserve to be killed.
I completely agree with you Gloria. I am not clinical, but I do believe Dr Grande hit the nail on the head.
@@snoopyfod1807 Don't solve violence with violence please.
@@snoopyfod1807 Nice genocide rhetoric, bro.
Where exactly are people seeing this sympathy from? I haven't seen any and I follow a lot of people who are very far left. I've seen people dogpiling on news anchors for being "sympathetic" simply for suggesting their might be a motive. But that's not sympathy, they do that for every killer like this.
Nice analysis, great job, thank you
Well, this is awesome. Finally an analyst upon which I can give you a thumbs up.
I just can not understand how anyone could harm a child. I just can't get my head around it.
because they are deviates, and this is not normal.
@@jagodah1130 And because it's too easy to get ammunition in America. Most other countries don't have this issue. Not even close.
SICK DEPRAVED UNIT
Its not that hard to comprehend.
My mother loved to harm children.
@Marc Draco It's not the amunitions fault. Do you blame the gas stations for drunk driving deaths? Problem is we have a serious mental health crisis in this country.
Thank you Dr. Grande for calling this horrible incident exactly what it was. Audrey must have been a complete sadistic narcissist. There is no way to justify what she did. There are too many people going way out of their way to defend her. In this sick society, with so many people living in denial and alternate realities, I fear that tragedies like this will only become more commonplace.
It's good to hear an intelligent professional like yourself call it what it sadly is. Another cold blooded mass murder of innocent adults and children, committed by a cold blooded creep with a warped sense of reality.
There are also a lot of sick people trying to justify their hate of minorities over this..
Exactly!
Who have you encountered defend the shooter ?
@@ekhowo1475some leftwing media pundits, politicians, political activists and Trans activists. Some of these activists are calling for trans people to buy weapons to defend themselves. Of course tragic incidents like this often spark up permanently on-going issues having to do with gun control, human rights LGBTQ rights and so on. It's sad that things like this often take precedent over the senseless loss of innocent lives, but it is what it is.
Many people grow up with bullying and unbelievable trauma in their lives. My family was completely dysfunctional. I witnessed and experienced horrible violence, was bullied relentlessly all throughout school, not to mention well into my adult life and severely traumatized. It's an unfortunate fact of life. One learns to deal with it, getting help from professionals and channelling all of that negativity into something positive. The process makes one a stronger and more compassionate person. It does not justify becoming a "sadistic" calculating murderer. Thank you Dr. Grande for your perceptive and articulate analysis.
I appreciate your calm, thorough look at this tragedy.
Thank you for not trying to justify her killing innocent people, as I’ve heard from others. This was sadistic and so well planned.
Who tf justifies killing innocent children??
I'm very tuned into the trans community and not one fucking person has said anything like that. Condemnation all around. Mostly, people are worried about people like you spreading bullshit.
@@90swerethebest10 Trans activists are defending her all over the internet. Just look around. It's insane.
@@SmokesLetsGoBud They deserve everything they get.
@@SmokesLetsGoBudNo they're not lmao. There's a sh*t ton of right wing trolls going around pretending to be trans activists.
You’re on this so quickly with information I haven’t heard yet from other sources. Thank you Dr Grande, this is so tragic. RIP the children and teachers at the school.
The media is suppressing it, that's why.
I'd much rather listen to Doc's info without any sensationalism. Fantastic analysis
There's really no excuse or justification for killing children and teachers just going about a school day.
You don't have any way of knowing the soundness of what you're hearing from him.
How do you know whether he is dazzling you with his brilliance or baffling you with a bunch of Bullshit?
He’s trustworthy so you STFU!
No way is there is enough information at this point for him to do an analysis like this. This feels irresponsible for him to basically guess at what her motivations might be.
Hi doc, love you and your Channel. Hello from Bay Ridge Brooklyn
Thank you, Dr. Grande for not portraying Hale as a victim.
The footage of her shooting out the glass doors and walking down the hallways is terrifying. RIP all the innocent victims.
It's similar to the Adam lanza case
She is clumsy, like all women trying to play macho. Of course, she targeted defenseless children. If she had met men at any point, even disarmed, i guarantee you theywould have kicked her bitchy ass real quick. There is nothing "frightening" in her at all, it's just PATHETIC. Everything in her was pathetic and worthy of contempt.
Sadly I think security for schools needs to be upped drastically. Entry points need some kind of future proofing . You can get internal or external steel shutters that close either manually or electronically. After 9am any side doors etc could be made safe like this leaving the main door with pin code entry , CCTV , toughened double glazed glass & a steel shutter .
It’s like a flashback scene of the movie “ The Terminator” …. For those generations old enough to remember the Arnold Swartznagger movies.
What about the 60year old teachers, they dont say much but are they innocent victims? I fully agree the kids are but I don't know about the teachers.
I had an awful childhood. I was bullied. I was assaulted well ... nobody has to pay for the discomfort of my life . I have ASD and anxiety and depression yes life sometimes sucks but it is why you had to make the best of it . Nobody has to pay for it . She taked the wrong turn . She turned to anger i choose to turn to forgiveness... you can choose. We have the power to choose.
Rip to the victims... 😢💞
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God bless, keep, sustain, and prosper. I think we all know right from wrong, as for sure you have shown.
I totally agree that "life sometimes sucks" for more of us than are willing to admit so. Nonetheless, being awful, and sucking as a person is a choice. Audrey chose to sack and leave life as a failed deceased cowardly loser. Someone knew and saw her evolving into a tragic failure and may have underestimated or denied it.
Mang eakkk
@@Umtreegrow up, that's uncalled for - don't take it out on anyone but the killer
great analysis, as per usual
Great analysis and video
Not everyone who has autism does this. I have autism and would never do anything like this. The killer was just evil, killing children and innocent people.
Autism does not cause a violent disposition, but several comorbid conditions can. I am sick of autism being the scapegoat when its really comorbid conditions that attribute to violence. Autistic ppl tend to have a strong sense of justice.. killing innocents is the opposite of justice.
It doesn't cause it. Yet many shooters are. I can list several off the bat.
@@karllager2214 And considering there are around 400 a year in the US, there are many more who aren't.
Right? ASD has nothing to do with this. Im diagnosed, and everyone I know who is ASD, are some of the sweetest people to exist. ASD is not sociopath. Not even remotely.
@@karllager2214 Many shooters also don't have it. I bet I could list more.
Appropriately stated Dr. Grande.
I will never understand why people who want to end their life, are so willing to ends others first. It’s truly evil.
What I find truely evil is to mistreat people like Audrey Hale for their whole life.
I am convinced if the "so called" chiristians in their communities and parishes would have been truely living "Love thy neighbour as thyself" all 7 people who lost their lives on monday would still be among us.
Unfortunately Audrey Hale was not strong enough to withstand all the malicious behaviour and treatment she had to endure until their mind snapped and they psyhopathically planned and executed that mass shooting.
Id assume the teachers she shot is who you should investigate first on your list.
The world definitely needs someone like dr grande
Why do people keep saying Christianity doesn’t accept trans … what religion does ? why do Christians get all the blame. If she was born into a Muslim family they would have embraced her being trans ?? Maybe if she was born Orthodox Jew she would be really accepted
20 years ago I put myself into an anger management program that was mostly filled with court ordered offenders.
The one thing that was taught and is oh so true is regardless of what may have happened to you, you yourself are 100% responsible for your own actions!
You are spot on with hammering home this same message to the idiots who support her actions!🇨🇦
Stop lying. Nobody is supporting her
@@RJPharry not lying at all. Pay attention to the whole episode. There are people who support her cause.
Maybe you thought I was meaning some in this comment section but that is not the case.
I can't imagine trying to justify this. I was bullied heavily all 12 years of school and then in 3 workplaces yet i have never and will never kill another person.
So sorry you had to experience that. I hope things are better for you now 🙏
I was tormented, bullied and stalked. I learned programming and math afterwards. Having said that, I'm the one battling to pull myself up. Mental healthcare in America is lacking.
Thank you for that last bit. Two wrongs do not make a right. Killing innocent people because somebody else may have hurt you is NOT acceptable. Period. My heart is absolutely broken for the victims, their families, classmates, and communities... 💔
What a fucked up sense of justice someone must have to think someone else hurting innocent people is somehow justified.
Who hurt her?
@@AngelGonzalez-pd4cn no one… she’s just another victim of the victim ideology…
@@Aaron-kj8dv I can't fathom it. And yet there are plenty of people currently trying to justify her actions by blaming the government, or blaming Christians, or blaming Republicans. It is sickening. Her actions were her own.
Condolences to anyone affected by this horrible event.
Thank you Dr Grande, you truly have talent in your field 👌🇦🇺
Outstanding! Thank you for speaking the truth with boldness. 👏
Spot on Dr. Grande. And thank you for calling out the people actually making excuses for this killer. My son is the same as as the young victims and I cannot fathom what the parents are feeling. 100% a senseless act.
My youngest is 9. I really didn't want to send him to school. But I feel a bit safer knowing both my high school aged son and the 3rd grader both have armed police officers there. It's still hard to let them go.
People who make excuses are disgusting, but equally, people who refuse to do anything about school shootings are disgusting. This doesn't have to happen, it doesn't happen in most countries.
@@Harsh-mg2em i mean all you need to see is republicans trying to blame the trans community, not looking at the actual issue, that its way too easy for anyone to get high powered weapons
Thank you for your objective analysis. It’s easy to react emotionally when such an extreme tragedy occurs. We need voices of reason in times like this. I will keep the families of the victims in my prayers
Dr. Grande, thank you for your analysis. I respect your opinion. My ❤️ goes out to all affected by this senseless tragedy.
I find your analysis informative and interesting.
She not only killed those adults and children, but in doing so, she struck a terrible blow at their families.
.. a blow that shattered their lives for years to come 😢
That was her goal
She struck a terrible blow to the trans community that she claimed she loved so much. They think they were hated before??
really?????
@@90swerethebest10 If straight white males can cry victim but overwhelmingly be the school shooter I’m sure the trans community won’t have any new haters that didn’t already hate before
Everyone, at some point in life, sometimes even as adults, has been bullied. Most of us learned how to become stronger mentally & emotionally. But we also learned how to cope with it. We may still have cried, but we got over it quicker. Murder is never the answer.
So only your choice is an "answer"? I also wonder how you can project yourself onto everyone else, dont you think ppl might be forced or act diffrently?
@@skagenpige88 Do you justify murder of 6 people, let alone three 9 year old kids?
@@belladonnahigh9206 No, the religious ppl harming trans children justify doing this so they can get to heaven or whatever...when you abuse children like religion do eventually someone will do this, its unavoidable. Its not me doing this, its them. They think their religion is more important than her mental health.
@@belladonnahigh9206 Do you justify the crimes of the religious people?
@@skagenpige88 You don't respond with an answer to an answer.
Depends on what you deem criminal. If you mean killing, obviously not. If you mean pee doughs, obviously not, but these animals are everywhere, nowadays mostly at schools, Hollywood and Disney.
So, do you support killing Christians or not? Yes or no?
I am a leftist and I haven’t seen anyone saying what she did was justified or blaming the victims. I’d love to know who was doing that, because I’d like to criticize that, too. I always wonder after the fact, when people say they want to die and end up committing homicide, why they insist on taking others out with them. 😢
Leftism is a mental illness... you won the birth lottery to be in the greatest nation Free Market Capitalism ever created and want to choose socialist lies over what you can see?
Also socialists today are infact cultural Marxists who spew the lie that USA is somehow 'oppressive' to anyone who is non-white or non-Christian while the fact is any non white is far far more likely to be successful & happy in USA than in any country where they are the majority (i.e An immigrant Muslim Arab or a Hindu Indian or an immigrant African living in USA is far more wealthier & educated than most of their brethren home)
If you go on Memology channel people are pointing 7 finger respresenting the victim on that incident, saying Audrey is a victim.
KJP said that my heart goes out too the transgender community after the attack, more worry about the backlash on the trans community then the PTSD the kid got in the incident
Read articles from CNN and NBC, and TikTok videos and you will get an eyeful of complaints about how the poor murderer was "misgendered" by the Police and some in the media, how the TN legislature is to blame due to the recent "transphobic" laws passed, and how the Christian (transphobic) school, got what they deserved.
Also, what about all the articles trying to blame 2A, Republicans, and the NRA for this crazy person.
Well done! 👏🏻
Dr. Grande I always love to hear your take on pretty much everything. Well with this one , I have never agreed with you more. This happened in my hometown. I was a director of 2 childcare facilities that were very close to this church/ school. I dropped kids off at school literally down the street from there. For the past 2 days I will cry out of nowhere. I can't wrap my head around this. I definitely cannot understand how ANYONE can justify this evil. I am so glad you touched on that, because no one wants to talk about the fact that some people on the left are actually justifying this evil act. Thank you for this video❤
Stop bringing politics into this. I'm on "the left" & in NO way do I feel she is justified nor a victim. Every shooting draws attention away from the real fact it's the availability of high powered weapons. NO citizen needs those. We have daily shootings anymore, most with those type. Sure bad guys can get guns but we shouldn't make it so easy. Seconds count & with high powered weapons thousands of extra rounds can be shot before LE gets there or someone can stop them when reloading. Simple fact but it's "the right" who love to deflect they believe everyone has a right to a gun, when the constitution is taken out of context, which is proven by law professors. But you can't fight the extreme amt of $ that the NRA brings in & their sway.
I'm glad you said some people on the left because I am a Presbyterian on the left whose late life partner was both far more conservative & trans & neither of us would ever justify this. I didn't see your mention of the left until I had already hit reply. Extremists in any group pull at those less radicalized, causing escalation. I have long said that we need to deescalate America now so we can use political stripes for debate in a search for balance. I pray for America's metaphorical collective soul.
But my original purpose in replying to you is to say: You truly have my condolences. I wish you and yours well.
@@geekdivaherself Doesn't matter she said some. You lost the point amidst her long emotional post about "the left" or "evil". Prayers aren't stopping murder...it's actions that count. This happens daily & no solutions ever come yet they're easy, within our control, not some outside entity.
@@geekdivaherself i dont think one can be conservative and trans. i mean this literally as i am neither but it would make that person an oxymoron, they cant be in the same sentence. being trans is highly progressive and a very new trend and the opposite of being conservative. i have seen all the statements that try and say third genders have been around for thousands of years across all cultures and that simply is a very inaccurate misstatement. it is something progressive
@@matthewfors114 You can be transsexual and conservative. Indeed the new identity ideology is radical left, see it as a political trans identity, not actual transsexual people.
I love it when people who say that you shouldn't politicize shootings are actually the first people to politicize shootings when it fits their narrative
Personally I have no problem with the left or the right politicizing any tragedy to gain an advantage. Politics is about power and propaganda. Anyone who believes in the value of “civility” is sadly naive. From a strategic perspective, the right were just handed a massive propaganda cow and they will milk it for all its worth.
We call those people Republicans
Like CNN..
I mean these are “political” shootings, given their ideological nature. Just Evil attempting to subvert good. A story as old as time.
Oh my god yes, that's so annoying. I personally don't believe this shooting says 1 thing about the Trans community but I also don't take the "white terrorism" hysteria bait either.
People who do this are demented no matter what their background is and politicizing it is just a distraction
Thank you, Dr. Grande
Failing to continue living in life is a tragedy, but choosing to take the innocent lives of others with you on your way to a suicide is just evil.
All of us in the U.K are so upset and so sorry for the poor victims and the poor families now sentenced to a life of loss and darkness.Hope they get all the love and help they need..❤️🇬🇧🇺🇸❤️..❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Thank Dr. Grande you are always working overtime for us! We appreciate you very much🌵🌵🌵
Thanks Dr Grande, this seems like a fair, and objective take on that women's actions, and possible motivations !
I put this video up on Twitter and they promptly blocked my acct. saying I violated their terms of service. I could have it reinstated if I removed the video. I am glad to say THIS great video analysis is THE HILL I decided to allow my Twitter to die on.🎉
Analysis video on the shooter violates TOS?
@@YTStoleMyUsername must have. But they will reinstate me IF I delete it.
Thank you for your take on this. I am disgusted by the people trying to excuse her behavior or taking her side. There is no excuse for this behavior, we all have had tragedy and trauma in our lives and shooting children and the elderly is not the answer, they were innocent victims. Any excuse for her behavior is vile and disturbing
Yes. We should ignore her past. Ignoring underlying root-causes of why these things happen will surely eventually lead to them not happening anymore.
@@MrAerohank lol
@@MrAerohank Oh the underlying causes are important now?
@MrAerohank if that's what you took from OPs post then it says more about you than OP
@@alihenderson5910 No, only 2 things are important. Thoughts and prayers.
I am curious about the manifesto, but as you said... nothing excuses this violence. And this was no act of revenge or defense of gender expression... This was a horrific and calculated killing. Thanks for covering this, and I hope you will update with more thoughts as we learn more about the "motive" behind this.
I'm the same as you, I understand manifestos are the ramblings of a deranged mind but I'm so interested in what's in them
I think it's important to look at the manifestos as it can help with building a profile for persons likely to commit such violent acts
Nothing excuses murder hence premeditation there for planned ..every single step .nothing mental health about this individual ..my little boy has autism and he would never do this ...this individual is just pure evil ..who would murder babies
It’s full of anti Christian hate.
I heard one of her saying was “if you mess with our kids we’ll kill yours.”
Great show again
Audrey's statements such as 'this will make more sense later' are further indication that she had ideological inspiration for what she did and that what she did is therefore a hate crime and a genocidal act.
Thank you so much for analyzing this case so quickly.
No matter what ill-treatment Audrey Hale might've endured, it's unfathomable that anyone would even consider justifying the calculated, heartless, cold-blooded murders that Audrey committed of six innocent people.
Have you heard or seen anyone doing that? Justifying her actions? Because I haven't. I'd like some proof on that assertion.
@@idellekell yeah a lot of people are astroturfing some political angle here lol
@@ekhowo1475 I had never heard this expression before and after looking it up I think it’s perfect. Allegedly, there’s some statement from some made up network that isn’t being covered by anyone reputable but is being touted as some kind of dog whistle for anti-trans folks, despite the fact that no one has confirmed the shooter was trans. There wasn’t enough information to make this commentary with any shred of credibility. Lost a little respect here.
@Kristen Kellet, yes some people are, like @Someone Out-there
in an aaa caps response earlier in the thread. Just because you didn’t see it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Stop acting like there aren’t trash people trying to justify this savagery.
I’m always coming to this channel for Dr. Todd’s assumptions. I hope something gets done soon. I went to school in the 90’s just before Columbine. I couldn’t imagine going to school today.
I’m not a nugget doctor…..I would add, this entire elaborate plan, as we learn more, was a suicide but she didn’t have the guts to pull the trigger on herself.
Exactly what I’m thinking. Why did she not just off herself rather than murdering others?
"Suicide by cop" is common for suspects with depression or schizophrenia.
@@darlalathan6143 and cowards.
they could have gone to a police station with a gun or self report themselves holding a gun who will start shooting if the cops are not there. Just pointing gun at a cop, even a fake gun can end with getting killed. Its more than suicide. They wanted to be known by others in their death. They might have been in pain but in the end they were selfish, narcistic, ego-centric.
@@STCatchMeTRACjRono such thing as they. It was a damn woman
Excellent analysis!
Gracias, Dr. Todd Grande!
Thank you, Dr. Todd Grande!
You are so right, and I appreciate your commentary on this. This hit very close to home, having family who worked at the school previously. The victim blaming and excuses being made for the killer in the media are horrifying. To my knowledge the staff there were very loving, kind and cared very much for those children, and I'm sure Audrey as well.
I don't watch tv or read any msm news. So there's actually a coordinated effort by a significant # of people to somehow justify this? Wouldn't surprise me, hence the reason I don't watch tv or read any MSM "news"
I suggest u all who have rational thinking & properly formed logic to do the same. I had to turn of the news & MSM connections 15 years ago because the manipulation, bias, propaganda & just sheer stupid lunacy was severely hurting by brain. I read comments from those still connected to the current culture & events & my brain nearly explodes in utter bewilderment as to the lies, bias & lunacy coming from any MSM outlet.
Edit. To show how off the MSM grid I am, I didn't hear about the school shooting until a coworker mentioned it today March 30th. Lol.
I envy the Amish. While they don't have access to the great benefits of technology, they surely have the highest possible levels of peace of mind 🙂
How are people even defending this monster?? Oh let me guess, it's because she is "trans" 🙄
there are people with excuses here in the comment section as well, blaming Republicans and Christians. like any of them wants mentally ill school shooters....
I'll never understand how killing random people, especially children, is considered a goal to animals like this. I feel so bad for the victims families, the kids in the building when this happened, and even for The killer's family.
schools are an easy target for coward in the USA.
There is no way to truly understand mentally deranged people. We can absolutely do more to protect against their actions though.
I think the (twisted) mindset is that ‘society caused all my problems, I’m going to retaliate’. Most societies hold their children as the most precious part, so hurting children = hurting society.
With that external locus of control, I doubt the shooter felt bad about killing anyone; ‘society caused the problem, blame society’ as if they’re just the messenger.
It’s revolting and I can’t stand it when people refuse to account for their actions.
For that reason, I hope they don’t release the manifesto publicly. It’s irrelevant. Nothing in there would make any of us go ‘oh, ok then’.
@@esteemedmortal5917IT'S JUST A PATHETIC EXCUSE FROM A SADISTIC, CALLOUS, EVIL PERSON. AUDREY WANTED TO DIE. SHE CHOSE TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE.
@@esteemedmortal5917 I disagree we might have friends or family who's harboring the same emotions the shooter felt or has a similar world view to the shooter and we wouldn't know until it's too late.
An offhand comment at the dinner table can be deeper than one initially thinks.