I disagree with your comment shadow is based off of mewtwo both were created in a lab to be the ultimate life form humans took away someone they loved and they swore revenge both forgave the humans and protect the humans and they have annoying rivals
I laughed at the idea of poor Sonic getting his ass rammed by MUI Goku, Baryon Naruto, Gear Fifth Luffy and freaking Dio being menacingly like always. Good fine!
It depends because if you count that it required sonic shadow and silver to defeat solaris, then he is just multiversal, if we count other feats then low outerversal
@@daner293 true, but apparently tyrecordslol says that shadow, silver, and sonic had to 1v1 Solaris in each timeline, shadow 1v1 Solaris in the past, silver 1v1 Solaris in the future, and sonic 1v1 Solaris in the present
The thing about sonic characters in mugen is that they are extremely fast and land a lot of hits, so most of the time their attacks do low damage as a way to balance them an encourage a style of gameplay that revolves around doing the longest combo to your opponents Now that Midoriya mugen along with most of the other charcters the sonic cast fought are really unbalanced, the only balanced ones are probably Vegeta, Genos and Naruto but even then i believe they did good.
@@LokiFESlove ur videos but you're missing out on the updates sonic all forms got an AI patch Seelkadoom,nazo,Mephiles,Scourge,Sonic.exe and even Sonow he's as busted as shadic now all these updates are made by the same guy who made the sonic black update and Mecha Sonic and shadow and he's currently working on a Shadic(all froms) update
Realistically there is a very small chance Goku beats Sonic depending on where you scale him but I'm pretty positive Luffy isn't even Planet level and I have no clue where Naruto scales but I think the highest I've heard him scaled is like star level so yeah still gets clapped.
@thestickmansavioryt1941 I know Sonic can be scaled to that level. I'm just learning how to explain it, so when debating, I have Sonic at multi+ also. Outerversal Goku is absolute horseshit
Who would win each fight in canon at their strongest for educational purposes: Sonic > Luffy Vegeta > Shadow Dio > Metal Sonic Genos > Tails Shadow > Deku Knuckles and Tails > Naruto and Katakuri Tarble is also canon
If it were Archie Shadow, then he beats Vegeta. Perhaps even xeno Vegeta. Game Shadow however, l made a comment and I may have debunked the Solaris scaling. Past & Future is finite in 06. Go check out my comment!
15:50 Even with that time when Shadow’s was training with Vegeta ( As seen in 5:06 ), he still got robbed when he was about to stop toying around with that foolish snail. Also where the hell is Goku at, judging by the thumbnail, he was supposed to team up with Sonic and co.
Well, more recently now Shadow is like Vegeta. In the comics and just new games, Shadow is comparable to Vegeta character wise. Now, SA2 and Heroes Shadow, definitely not comparable to Vegeta, at least not entirely
@@Ninjaguy3128 either way I don't see them alike. The only reason why people see that is because they're rivals with the MC and have a different vibe, almost like every other rivalry in the media. That are some dbz fans are convinced that the Sonic series is a copy of it when the only character that took inspiration from Dragonball was Silver because of Trunks. Otherwise I see them as two other series
Bring the .EXEs to redeem our name 😂😂😂 But seriously though you must take other versions because they don’t do any damage a lvl 3 from sonic and co don’t make as much damage as a 3 hit combo from the characters
If Shadow is Vegeta , and Silver is Trunks , then I think we have an origin story. But the only females sporting white are Rouge the bat, and Elise of the white flame. I have never wanted Rouge to get laid so badly.
I'm talking feats alone, base Archie Sonic beats Goku, Saitama, Naruto, Luffy, Deku, Etc. I'm a fan of dragon ball, but I know that base Archie Sonic solos every one.
Does nobody notice that the sonic characters like do the weakest amount of damage no matter the form where as a casual combo from any other character literally does more damage then the sonic characters at their max form
I don't wanna be called a downplayer or anything. But people say 06 had the best scaling for Sonic b'cuz of them scaling to concepts of present, past, & future, when they're not actually concepts. Remember that the world of sonic 06 is like its own continuity thanks to the fixed timeline or causality loop that eventually ends. Otherwise, plot holes like elise having a chaos emerald for 10yrs would contradict what's established in previous games. (Same could be said with Blaze being future gohan in Silver's time. Which btw, her bio says that she protects and uses the sol emeralds and she's from her dimension. Though she really should have interacted with the others and be level headed to object the creepy hedge without a mouth if that were the case.) They also seem to time travel like past, present and future were locations rather than actual periods of time. Until Silver and Sonic thought about going back in time to save the princess. I don't get why Sonic was in a hurry back in crisis city like if he and his amigos were sent to another place instead of 200yrs to the future, when these time travel shenanigan shouldn't be new to him if CD were canon. So the present, past & future that Solaris and the super hedgehog trio were fighting at are finite and either broken or consumed by Solaris. Plus we should have had stages from other sonic games in the End of the World stages if otherwise.
@@socxs_ I'm also gonna need you to watch this long video about sonic 06's story. czcams.com/video/Xiujx50IK8A/video.htmlsi=JyIOLzBbtP4dQ49h There're some that I disagree about what he said, but it should explain why the Solaris scaling is not impressive at all.
Dio_K1 is God like in any game and if you think that he can’t be that god like I’m gonna need you to look up the bodies of people he has and tell me what you think
@@CuteRedPanda64 what is bro yapping about?🤣 Sonic literally defeated a enemy that destroyed infinite timelines and dimensions just by existing, and Luffy has no feats with him even surviving a black hole (which sonic has done two times before)
Amazing Sonic Picture by - www.deviantart.com/shira-hedgie/art/Sonic-Forces-Reveal-Trailer-painting-768184230
Sup bro
I disagree with your comment shadow is based off of mewtwo both were created in a lab to be the ultimate life form humans took away someone they loved and they swore revenge both forgave the humans and protect the humans and they have annoying rivals
I laughed at the idea of poor Sonic getting his ass rammed by MUI Goku, Baryon Naruto, Gear Fifth Luffy and freaking Dio being menacingly like always. Good fine!
@@chickenfoot7515 fax
@@deion-cw9hv for what I said about shadow being inspired by mewtwo instead of vegeta
In reality sonic with correct scaling absolutely gaps anime
True, some people can scale him to complex multiversal, and some people can scale him to outerversal
It depends because if you count that it required sonic shadow and silver to defeat solaris, then he is just multiversal, if we count other feats then low outerversal
@@daner293 true, but apparently tyrecordslol says that shadow, silver, and sonic had to 1v1 Solaris in each timeline, shadow 1v1 Solaris in the past, silver 1v1 Solaris in the future, and sonic 1v1 Solaris in the present
And this is only game sonic Archie sonic is even more broken
So people say Sonic scales multi to outer because of this?
czcams.com/video/Xiujx50IK8A/video.htmlsi=hdnfMCoQ8BtZLCqa
This is the rightful moveset smash bros never gave sonic but he deserved it
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Goated CZcamsr Detected: Loki FES video: FOUND
9:54 Eggman’s jaw has touched the floor after that wash bro
Dio k1 is a op Dio and goku op is op don’t ues them
FR!
HE VIOLATED.
Note to Loki: DONT PICK A CHARACTER THAT HAS ANYTHING IN THEIR NAME THAT SHOULDNT BELONG
TLDR: K1 AND OP-
We really need to see how Shadic and Sonic exe can perform in this mugen against these crazy characters
8:18 Vegeta really said "stop insulting me bro"
Dio gave metal sonic all the smoke
18:18 "HE HAS A GUN!?" help 😭
The thing about sonic characters in mugen is that they are extremely fast and land a lot of hits, so most of the time their attacks do low damage as a way to balance them an encourage a style of gameplay that revolves around doing the longest combo to your opponents
Now that Midoriya mugen along with most of the other charcters the sonic cast fought are really unbalanced, the only balanced ones are probably Vegeta, Genos and Naruto but even then i believe they did good.
It's also an AI issue, their decisions often leave them wide open for no reason
Thumbnail was right, dayum.
Deku piecing up shadow that first fight had me speechless fr. 😂
I wasnt expecting that kind of damage output
Deku: Ultimate lifeform my ass!
LMAO
They did my boy Metal dirty
Could Metal even get Dio's data and copy his powers?
@@crimsonzone8984Nope cuz Dio can stop Time.
@@CuteRedPanda64 but so can Shadow.
Imma need metal sonic to fight someone else though on god.
That DIO was on a whole new KIND of crack golleee 😂😂😂
sonic: i solo gok- goku: *prowler theme play-* archie sonic: *prowler meme plays*
UI Goku: Prowler meme plays
@@CuteRedPanda64 hypr archie sonic:*Prowler meme plays*
@@Random_xl CC USSJB Goku: *prowler theme*
@@FluppietheRockruffFan ... What?
@@FluppietheRockruffFan anyway
W videos like always
If he turned into gear five, it will be all over
9:42 that wasn't even a fight that was just a full on slaughter fest.
In the next sonic mugen this NEEDS to happen, Shadic(all forms) vs Shadic DBS, we need to see which shadic is stronger
0:48 did i just see this hedgehog weave at the start of the match. The round just started and hes already disrespectful.
whenever you use Jump Force Mugen you should definitely update Sonic to another one, he's AI so bad compared to others that it hurts 😭
i'll try that
@@LokiFESlove ur videos but you're missing out on the updates sonic all forms got an AI patch Seelkadoom,nazo,Mephiles,Scourge,Sonic.exe and even Sonow he's as busted as shadic now all these updates are made by the same guy who made the sonic black update and
Mecha Sonic and shadow and he's currently working on a Shadic(all froms) update
Dude got Naruto teaming up with nut man😂😂😂 nut man did his thing tho
Realistically there is a very small chance Goku beats Sonic depending on where you scale him but I'm pretty positive Luffy isn't even Planet level and I have no clue where Naruto scales but I think the highest I've heard him scaled is like star level so yeah still gets clapped.
luffy is almost planet level
Luffy in terms of raw power? No.
Luffy in terms of Gear 5's cartoony bullshit? As long as its amusing.
Sonic is Extraversal
Goku is 4D - Low Outer (highball)
Luffy : Planet (highball)
Naruto : Starlevel (lowball)
Sonic *obliterates*
@thestickmansavioryt1941 I know Sonic can be scaled to that level. I'm just learning how to explain it, so when debating, I have Sonic at multi+ also. Outerversal Goku is absolute horseshit
@@thestickmansavioryt1941 Luffy in Gear 5: "So anyway, I completely matched him via cartoon bullshit."
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Who would win each fight in canon at their strongest for educational purposes:
Sonic > Luffy
Vegeta > Shadow
Dio > Metal Sonic
Genos > Tails
Shadow > Deku
Knuckles and Tails > Naruto and Katakuri
Tarble is also canon
Shadow >vegeta
Shadow>>>>>>vegeta
@@Flame_67y facts
💀Shadow is not stronger than Vegeta, learn to power scale.
If it were Archie Shadow, then he beats Vegeta. Perhaps even xeno Vegeta. Game Shadow however, l made a comment and I may have debunked the Solaris scaling. Past & Future is finite in 06. Go check out my comment!
Metal didnt even get another fight 😭
Yoyo yooo if it ain’t my favorite underrated CZcamsr!!!! Love your vids my guy!
Man this went hard. GEEZ!
8:14 and archie shadow wouldve made that man a 5 star meal
Tails must of heard loki talking trash about him because he went ALL OUT on genos
Also metal needs the run back (maybe against somone less powerful)
12:53 and the fact tails ate that beam and got out his attack is wild
Loki you finally use tails
You should put Sonic and Shadow vs Knuckles and Tails. It'll be interesting I promise.
Hey loki have you heard of a new sonic fan game called sonic horizon
Also I think that shadow plays like sonic all forms and so if he has full bar and dies he turns into chaos
Love you videos brotha just saw the noti and need to watch this
Nah, I wanna see the Knuckles vs Katakuri rematch. 1v1
Fun fact: canonically, Sonic should beat MUI Goku in Super form.
Bruh Dio had zero chill 😂
i would def want bardock to come back. i feel thhe father son bond between goku and bardock could go somewhere.
Yooo can you link that tails it looks FIRE
Also you should do a entire video on that dio HE'S A MOOOOOONSTER
3:48 Luffy can also still take Sword/cut Damage in Gear 5 too
Kaido himself literally said it
15:50 Even with that time when Shadow’s was training with Vegeta ( As seen in 5:06 ), he still got robbed when he was about to stop toying around with that foolish snail. Also where the hell is Goku at, judging by the thumbnail, he was supposed to team up with Sonic and co.
I disagree with Shadow being Vegeta's counterpart. They're completely different characters, also THE SLANDER AGAINST NEEDS TO STOP
Vegeta has royal ego
Shadow has introvert anti-hero vibes
Well, more recently now Shadow is like Vegeta. In the comics and just new games, Shadow is comparable to Vegeta character wise. Now, SA2 and Heroes Shadow, definitely not comparable to Vegeta, at least not entirely
@@Ninjaguy3128 either way I don't see them alike. The only reason why people see that is because they're rivals with the MC and have a different vibe, almost like every other rivalry in the media. That are some dbz fans are convinced that the Sonic series is a copy of it when the only character that took inspiration from Dragonball was Silver because of Trunks. Otherwise I see them as two other series
Let’s see a Super saiyan 100 vs EVERYONE bros hair looks like it stored 98,078 pounds of pure drugs
What if you do sonic and tails vs goku and vegeta.❤
Yo remember sonic venture?
dio k1 is one of the strongest mugens in jumpforce
poor metal
Bro I was so close to busting out in the comments cause I thought this was a video power scaling sonic 💀
Imagine if this Sonic was given moves from Frontiers
Also pretty sure the movie is my hero abridged 2
Bruh please give Gabriel his own video bro
Deku chill out 😂
Yea, that Dio is one of THOSE characters, busted as hell. Metal got ran through. Bro didn't deserve that.
im sorry for him
Should have made Shadow fight Dio. They can both do Za Wārudo.
Bring the .EXEs to redeem our name 😂😂😂
But seriously though you must take other versions because they don’t do any damage a lvl 3 from sonic and co don’t make as much damage as a 3 hit combo from the characters
If Shadow is Vegeta , and Silver is Trunks , then I think we have an origin story.
But the only females sporting white are Rouge the bat, and Elise of the white flame.
I have never wanted Rouge to get laid so badly.
That thumbnail got me nervous
SOOO MUCHHH PEAKKKKKK!!!!😩🖤
in case you didn't know dio_k1 is a broken character in Mugen, also vote the shadow in this video against Dio_k1
6:11 shadow decided it was time to clap this troll doll looking ass.
Use another sonic if you can, cause this hurts to watch
I like to see mui sonic vs ultra ego shadow
Mui Sonic And Ultra Shadow vs Hyper sonic And hyper Shadow
I'm talking feats alone, base Archie Sonic beats Goku, Saitama, Naruto, Luffy, Deku, Etc. I'm a fan of dragon ball, but I know that base Archie Sonic solos every one.
The one piece characters was playing no games
Hey Oh, Loki Fes! I recommend you to play Mugen The Evil Awakens 2. It Is Crack Incarnate. 😈
Ui sonic and auime vs exe sonic and hypersonic
shadow is achily mewtwo from pokemon
AYO!. GET SHADIC IN HERE! NOW SSJ4 FULL POWER! BITCHS.
Does nobody notice that the sonic characters like do the weakest amount of damage no matter the form where as a casual combo from any other character literally does more damage then the sonic characters at their max form
Zero for all forms vs Masters sonic
Sonic The Hedgehog VS Khalil
What's the song in the background in the beginning?
He means archi sonic vs all of anime
Hey loki try sonic horizons
shadow is vegeta's cheep copy
Hao Asakurah could solo all of fiction
Now do that Archie Version.
I don't wanna be called a downplayer or anything. But people say 06 had the best scaling for Sonic b'cuz of them scaling to concepts of present, past, & future, when they're not actually concepts. Remember that the world of sonic 06 is like its own continuity thanks to the fixed timeline or causality loop that eventually ends. Otherwise, plot holes like elise having a chaos emerald for 10yrs would contradict what's established in previous games. (Same could be said with Blaze being future gohan in Silver's time. Which btw, her bio says that she protects and uses the sol emeralds and she's from her dimension. Though she really should have interacted with the others and be level headed to object the creepy hedge without a mouth if that were the case.) They also seem to time travel like past, present and future were locations rather than actual periods of time. Until Silver and Sonic thought about going back in time to save the princess. I don't get why Sonic was in a hurry back in crisis city like if he and his amigos were sent to another place instead of 200yrs to the future, when these time travel shenanigan shouldn't be new to him if CD were canon. So the present, past & future that Solaris and the super hedgehog trio were fighting at are finite and either broken or consumed by Solaris. Plus we should have had stages from other sonic games in the End of the World stages if otherwise.
nobody says there concepts, it's just that solaris was destroying space and time and the timelines, which is still a good feat
@@socxs_yeah. But not as good as the time eater or the storybook villains that people said.
@@socxs_ I'm also gonna need you to watch this long video about sonic 06's story. czcams.com/video/Xiujx50IK8A/video.htmlsi=JyIOLzBbtP4dQ49h
There're some that I disagree about what he said, but it should explain why the Solaris scaling is not impressive at all.
True ultra instinct- mui goku v.s mui sonic
There is only one fair dio and thats dio nefado any other dio is godlike
you get upgraded mugen characters and don't show them to anyone what is that tails bro?
Got him from here - czcams.com/video/9CHYIyjb4mU/video.html
Dio_K1 is God like in any game and if you think that he can’t be that god like I’m gonna need you to look up the bodies of people he has and tell me what you think
sonic redemption arc
W video
Shadic plz ( OG version not dbz )
W manz
W VIDEO!!!!
Can Sonic handle Luffy while Luffy uses Gear 5?
Probably not.
@@CuteRedPanda64bro sonic I high-outerversal
@@CrusaderGoat Sonic is multiversal at Best. Plus Gear 5 has toon force so......
@@CuteRedPanda64 what is bro yapping about?🤣 Sonic literally defeated a enemy that destroyed infinite timelines and dimensions just by existing, and Luffy has no feats with him even surviving a black hole (which sonic has done two times before)
@@CrusaderGoat you obviously don't know what Toon force is.
We need shadic we need god himself
Chaos Knuckles > Archie Sonic (Maxed out)
Yuh
What game is this
What is the game name?
Everyone knows KATAKURI don't worry. Katakuri is the goat
First just saying
Game?
Bruh,the only anime I will respect is dragon ball
metal sonic slams dio
Don’t ues Dio k1 or anything Dio that is op don’t ues goku op don’t ues him
nah im using him
@@LokiFES lol ok you can ues demon lord Dio or muzan
Or tanjiro all forms
Sonic characters are a different level of crackhead
one word.....
OVERREACTING (you know why they do that)