U.S. AIR FORCE DESERT SURVIVAL TRAINING FILM 81510
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This somewhat ridiculous 1963 US Air Force training film from the series “Mountain and Desert Survival,” outlines principles of desert survival and procedures for promoting rescue and maintaining personnel health and comfort. The film opens with scenes of the hostile desert, with its bleak landscape and oppressive heat. At 1:32, an airplane is seen on fire and the pilot ejects (apparently this is real footage of an accident) followed at 1:46 with a process shot of a pilot in a parachute. As he descends the pilot attempts to spot terrain which might offer some shade and protection. At 2:24, the pilot is dazed from his landing, but apparently intact. From this point forward the pilot will struggle to survive until he can be rescued. At 6:40 the pilot drinks water from the survival kit, dons a hat, binds his injured knee and at 7:29, the pilot pulls his rubber survival raft along with him into the desert. At 9:13 he builds an improvised shelter using his parachute. At 13:00 he examines a survival booklet and learns that his odds of survival are not good unless he can find water. At 17:00, he places brush so that he can light a signal fire. At 17;20, he looks at a barrel cactus and considers cutting it open for water. At 18:58, he digs for water in a dry stream bed, but after digging 3' he finds no water. At 20:40, he tries to kill a rattle snake for food. At 21:00, he retrieves the barrel cactus by kicking it over. At 21:48 he cleans the snake for cooking, and even salts the snake "steaks" with salt tablets. At 22:40, he opens up the barrel cactus and pulls out a piece from which he wrings some liquid. (According to the Internet, this is not recommended. "Basically, you're ingesting a substance that your body has to process. You can drink from a barrel cactus, but only one of five varieties-the fishhook barrel-isn't toxic." ) At 24:00 the pilot lights his signal fire. At 25:40, the pilot makes a big "X" on the ground with rocks and brush. By 28:30, his second day, the pilot is beginning to hallucinate. At 29:00 he makes contact with air rescue using his survival radio, and lights his signal fires with flares. A rescue helicopter soon appears and the pilot's ordeal comes to a quick end.
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This should come in handy in Southern California during the next few years.
To D.M. Ball... Yeah, after Hoover Dam dries up, or stops producing power.
The intro is going to be so cal in about a year. Good bye to civilization west of the Mississippi.
@@TrapperAaron Nah. We'll be fine here in Texas. Well... this end of Texas, in the East, where it isn't an oven baked hellscape, and is mostly trees, lakes, and rivers. Lacking the gators of Louisiana.
@@TrapperAaron it sounds like there is a mass exodus leaving CA. I’m working for a real estate agent and she tells me no matter where you go it’s tough to find a house to buy because so many people from CA put in offers way above what is reasonable. It’s just about impossible for young kids just out of college. Like mine. It’s crazy.
Why, we have an entire OCEAN that we can desalinate? I'd hate to be inland.
One issue with this film. Speaking from lived experience, you do not get sweaty in the desert. You do sweat but it evaporates immediately and you will not get wet from sweat. I spent 2 years living in the desert of Arizona and southern Colorado and 2 years in Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Kuwait and I never once felt sweaty. That is one of the dangers of the desert, you do not percieve that you are sweating and so is that much more important that you keep hydrated. I have seen guys fall out from not drinking enough water simply because they were not sweating.
I lived in Phoenix,AZ and worked in construction. I sweated my ass off in 120 degree temps. So much that my socks were soaked. I was also stationed in Colorado Springs before that where I didn't sweat as much but still had to wipe sweat off my brow. Having said that, in Arizona I avoided caffeine and sugary drinks, also had to moisturize my hands and lips constantly. Same thing in Colorado as far as moisturizing.
Like the other comment, Arizona. Ft. Huachuca. The sweat dried so fast you could get chilled.
im hooked on these old survival films classic
also don't you also feel like it could be relevant some day ?
Me too simple and informative
@SmeagÖl g.
Youd be surprised how little the average American really knows about the most basic of survival techniques. Personally, I eat docs like this and more intense techniques just in case. I believe everybody should learn these things . If the SHTF , Id like to not be as helpless as an infant in the face of adversity. Just imagine some dimwit standing there in the desert with his credit card, crying like a baby before perishing
@SmeagÖl g. what would you do if you were in the situation where you needed to survive ?
CJR , I lived in the desert for 15 years. Would you like a survival technique from experience? Well it’s oppressively hot outside and you don’t have an unlimited supply of water, “keep your mouth shut “.
Capt. Hammond made a couple of stupid mistakes early on, but once he settled into the survival mindset he did well.
Any chance you remember the mistakes, these 2 years later?
Passing on the cactus early on? Digging riverbed holes in dry spots? Passing out too early? Parachute mishap?
@@37thraven
- First mistake - his right knee "wasn't working too well." The first thing you need to realize after a bailout is that you WILL land in shock. Immediately set a timer on your watch, even as you chute down - or when you land - to give yourself 5-10m before deciding to do anything at all. Let your brain have time to take balance of what's going on. He injured his knee worse by not bracing it before walking off.
- Second mistake is that he set off waking in the desert: it is extremely easy to get lost in a desert. Your steps are NOT even. One leg strides slightly further than the other - especially as he had a right knee injury. You can literally walk in circles, even using landmarks, or at the least you will drift off of a straight line no matter what you do. He even said what he should have done - NEVER leave your equipment behind. Don't let it out of your sight.
- Third he should have taken the cactus apart, into strips, and kept it inside the container his emergency ration had been in. It tastes like garbage, but chewing on the strips would give him water and energy. Thus making digging far easier. The cactus isn't a barrel of water that will just go empty when you decide to use it.... it's something that you can keep, and use, for water as you need it.
That's all I came across. There were a few things that he could have done _better,_ but ultimately he did fine in those instances. Not ideal, but well enough that they aren't worth listing as mistakes.
@@thalastianjorus good idea about cutting the liquid filled portion of the catcus into strips and sticking into a container.. to keep the moisture from evaporating. And I like your idea of him taking 5-10 minutes break before deciding to do anything, unless of course he was in obvious eminent danger.
@@manp1039 Eh, not my ideas. It's part of what we learned in survival school.
@@thalastianjorusSounds about right. There's something very "Hollywood" about the way these videos were made. Like you said about the "Shock" thing, they seem to always make these men act like they were taken out of their comfy chairs in the city and thrown into the wilderness with no training at all given their first instinct is to freak out and run. That goes completely against the ethos of how diligent military training is. I can sympathize with the shock of having crash landed and just survived, but I figure a lot of planning would have you generally know where you are and how useless it is to just "Run" like the city is just a few miles away and especially abandon your stuff like it's gonna explode if you stay near it.
It also gets me how these "training videos" often start the guys off with confessing they ignored orders and went off on thier own path before crash landing so they were as lost as possible. Makes for good hollywood, but why take the chance in unknown territory during war time? Doesn't seem like any amount of survival training can save anyone from arrogance. Fortunately one of the videos did show just how fatal ignoring orders and being cocky can be, but I'd like them to open with real accidents like "My wing got busted and forced me to drift off course" or "My nagivation shut off and the clouds blinded me, I had no idea where I was before I finally found a spot to bail". I can't imagine people are as lucky as the story claims.
That being said the videos are excellent and really nice to watch. They have some useful tips and the empathy is definitely there as the guys narrate how easy it is to mess up and barely have a chance. But suspension of disbelief dies when the person seems to make it thier mission to make themselves as impossible to rescue as possible. Fortunately this guy had the sense to go back and his ingenuity of looking for living animals and sucking moisture out of cacti really showed it IS possible to survive in those conditions, even if barely and requiring luck.
Irony: If you go to that valley nowadays its full of swimming pools and split-level mansions.
Where is it?
Yeah where
Nah, the Mojave desert is still really desolate. (from someone who lived there)
Classic, and just as relevant, as it was then, and is today.
the good thing today is there is signaling that works even with some mountains. Also stay where you are is a good thing. But I'm impressed with the equipment offered back in 1965, a lot of it is the same today!
Not really. In this film, he eats a snake (solid protein) on his first night, when he has NO water. It takes a lot of water to digest food, especially straight protein. If you have no water, and it's day 1, eating is extremely idiotic. Unless, it's a few bites to give yourself a psychological edge to keep pushing.
You can imagine how hot the desert can be but until you've been there you can not believe it. I live in Ontario Canada now but we lived in Southern Calif for a few years and used to go out to the Palm Springs & Indio area to drive our 4 wheelers in the desert. July and August are hot 110 degrees is an average temp and it gets to 120 regularly. Touch a rock and you'll get a 2nd-degree burn right fast. The handlebars on the 4 wheeler are like welding rods, it is no joke.
Where I live its 110 from may to October except for fire smoke cover or monsoon years. The desert is no beast to tangle with unprepared.
Mojave desert yesss. Hot.
it's easier to deal with desert heat than hot humid jungle heat that will make you feel exhausted and unable to cool down.
Ya get used to it... Till you run out of water and salt😂
I've worked on solar projects out there. We had ambient temperatures of 137 degrees in the solar arrays. I've found flat topped emergency survival water cans very similar to the one he uses. The Desert Training Center during WW2 was the largest training base in the world from 1942 to 1944.
I make rattlesnake stew with prickly pear sometimes, but I've lived and worked in the High Desert for 10+ years.
Dude threw away the water can --- could use it later
and he spit first drink of water to clean teeth 🤦♂️
He wasted a whole day digging 3 foot deep holes.
Remember, your brain is the finest survival kit you could ever have.
I grew up in Glendale AZ, 20 miles from Luke AFB, in grade school we saw this movie, I remember the line, "brother,the manual says you taste like chicken and that's your tough luck" . We made desert stills and learned some other survival stuff.
@SmeagÖl g. imagine lying for 21 likes lmao
My dad was stationed at Luke AFB In the mid-60s we lived there till he retired but I saw this movie when we were stationed at Sted AFB outside of Reno It was a training base for survival in the desert and the mountains my best friend that lived across the street‘s dad was one of the instructors so he bring these movies home and he would show them to us
@Paul Woodman@@rayraden2527 Any chance you guys can comment on the desert stills? I know the concept - aig a pit for a tarp or cut up a couple bottles, but what are you even catching in the desert? Night time dew??
@@37thraven It will collect what moisture it can from the hole you dug - even if it is brackish. And, you can put plants you gather, in the hole, and extract their moisture. What drips down your plastic sheeting into your cup is relatively pure water because it's been through the vapor stage and back to liquid. It is a sun-powered still. If you happen to have some tubing, you might be able to sip from the cup without having to disturb the still.
The hardest part is to shuffle the right way so that the sand-worms don't hear your vibrations.
Walk without rhythm It won't attract the worm.
@@billspear7702 * Riddim
You will be ok if you carry a Winchester 30-30. That will kill the worms.
Muadib
@@funkyalfonso They smell like spice
You'd think flying over a desert, they'd give you a little more water.
That survival kit was designed for both tropical and desert climates, also the kit was kinda outdated. For the 50s/60s
@Smeagol P. Galliaro de Uniz con Rediesia III 400,000 is more than a helo
You'd think, right? What did he have? 2 measly pints? In a 120 degree desert, I'd smash all of that in an hour. Surely there was room in that pack for more water.
Good thing I pretty much don't drink water unless reminded. On CZcams usually 😝
Ud think so..
Me too.. these old school films very cool. Gotta love military training.
When I was in the Navy, I spent 3 days in Death Valley picking up pieces of an A-7 that crashed out there. That was the last place On Earth I ever expected to be. Join the Navy, see the world. To top it off, I don't do well in the heat. By 10:00, I was down with heat stroke. My mistake was Dr. Pepper instead of water. We spent our nights At NAS China Lake.
After three days, we had pile of wreckage almost 6 ft high and maybe 6ft to 8ft round in a cargo net ready to be picked up. Most of those pieces were smaller than 50 cent piece. It was a sad event. The officer in charge had been good friends with the pilot that crashed.
Over the years I lost track of him. I saw him once about 18 months afterwards. He told me the Navy had still not sent a helicopter out to retrieve the wreckage we had recovered. He was very upset about it.
Death Valley in July is not a fun place to be. We had everything we needed and it was still very dangerous for us. None of us had any dessert training and this was about 25 years before cell phones.(1975)
Did you find water? Nope. But I found gold! At least I'll die rich.
very effective training video
It was cold beer in that canteen
very well done.
Interesting to see a Kaman Huskie in operation. Nice.
I live in the Phoenix area. It's dangerous to even think of going to remote areas without water. I carry at least a case of water at all times in my car. You never know how hot, "dry heat" is until you are stuck in a remote area. We get tourists all the time hiking camel back mountain. They underestimate the dry heat, don't drink enough water, and come down on a stretcher by rescue. Look out for lose rocks; you slip break a leg in no time. Your car is parked in the sun the steering wheel will burn your hands. Park in the shade if you can find it. We all look for shade spots in summer, just going into the store in summer.
I never traveled ( driving) with water, until I moved to Southern New Mexico from East Texas, took a few months to learn, water, water, and water, while driving. Lived there 18 years and have been back in Texas now for 10 years and I still can't drive across town unless I have my Bubba Keg full of water with me.
Love these clips, especially love how they could not record at night, to they just darkened the footage that they shot during the day and said it was "after midnight" XD#
Just like all the old cowboy movies I always knew!
I saw this film and several others when my dad was stationed at Sted Air Force Base they did a lot of survival training there because I had the desert and they had the Sierra Madres during the winter for mountain survival my best friends dad was one of the instructors and he used to bring the films home and show them to them in at his church so we always got to go see him learned a lot of crap when I was seven years old how to make fish traps the fact about getting water out of a barrel cactus and how to build several other types of traps
Very well put together
Great video. Thanks
As a child, my father worked at Lockheed Martin in Palmdale Cali, the Mojave Desert was our playground as a child. Guess as a child growing up in the desert you become more accustomed to the heat and elements, don't remember ever breaking down as bad as this guy. The truth be told it was so hot you couldn't even sweat, it would evaporate before you realized it. We would be out there a good part of the day riding bikes and exploring so we were being pretty active. Thing about the high desert is it is hot in the day and cold in the evenings, even colder in the winter when snow would drop.
Vegas kid myself, I agree. It’s crazy hot here, as I always lived near the edges of the city, so I experienced the heat a little more than those in the main city itself.
Edwards?
Where is/was Lockheed AFB?
@@timnell207 Fixed it, meant to say Lockheed Martin. Palmdale
thank you
Food tastes good, BUT it takes water from your body to digest. Go LIGHT on the food.
He was only 15 minutes away from Reno Nevada.
i felt bad for taking a sip of iced tea
ahahaha
DeltaGaming lol
And here I sit , eating my
McRattler Nuggets with Sauce , feeling guilty too ...
I'm having an ice-cold glass of Cranberry juice, I'm working on a kidney stone at the moment.
I'm glad he made it. 3 Cheers for Captain Hammond. Yeah💥 🎉🎊💥🎉🎊💥🎊
Going to watch Abandon Ship next.
Down periscope....
Thanks for this👍🇳🇿
They always make a navigation error...
Filmed near Perfection, Nevada. Snakes are the least of his problems.
what problems would have missed? I know scorpions would be a problem to be mindful off
Great show
Spend hundreds of thousands of dollars training a flyer and then give him a survival kit with one pint of water in it. I’d be furious...
water is heavy and weight is a major factor in a bailout kit plus this was back in the days of the single kits before the tropical desert artic kits
But it came in handy for rinsing the sand out of his mouth.
@@braddocke.hutton7392 lol
@@sqike001ton Well, if the water was that heavy, they should have given him dehydrated water instead: much lighter.
@@m.dwaynesteckley4832 Those modern packets of dehydrated water are small and light. Just add water to rehydrate them and you get a whole gallon from each tiny packet.
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Why am I drinking more watching this ?
Same here. 🥤
@@johnh.2340 be sure to save Some !!
Well, that was entertaining! 👏🏼😎
This is daily life in Barstow CA.
God bless you amen .
Hell, why not. I've already watched Castaway and Survival in the Arctic Tundra. May as well watch Desert now.
That tortoise was going a hell of a lick
i was thinking about it's hot feet
It saw the captain coming.
Well thank god we don't have to do that today. Thanks to the reliability of the Raptor.
As a desert dweller, the dude hadn't a clue. Snakes are very rare. Don't count on finding one. There's a lot more rabbits than snakes. Never go out in the desert and that includes an airplane without a lot of water. A little exaggeration about the temperature too. The all-time record for Las Vegas is 117. So I seriously doubt it was 120 under his parachute. I guess it doesn't matter though hot is hot.
Grew up in Joshua tree and lived in palm springs for couple years... It can definitely get up to 120 round here.. specially now days
120 F is possible in low-lying areas. 110 F is far more likely, and remember that he is dressed more warmly than most people living in hot areas. He's also not in the shade except when he is in the tent, and on Day 1 the tent is probably retaining heat from the ground, which was heated well above 150 F.
I lived in the desert for 7 years and damn it was hard
This reminds me of training in ROTC in Abilene TX, we could not catch a rabbit to save us, though we tried. What a time we had, but we got through it, when we finally got to the cafeteria, on base, we loaded our trays and stuffed ourselves. HA!
Rabbits in that part of the world are pretty good sized. If you would caught one you might have been able to ride it to safety. 😉
One error. I live in the Mohave. It's only HOT in the summer. Winters are freaking COLD and rainy. But in summer heat it is so dry, a pair of sweat socks will dry on the line in 5 min. Your sweat dries as fast as it comes out. You are dry. You have to watch it or you'll turn into a raisin. Also in shade, get ALL your clothes off. Let the heat escape. We actually live here. You shouldn't be at deaths door in only 2 day. But 2 qts of water ain't enough. If you are going to be out , even in winter, carry gallons. And hard candy and gum.
very cool
Yay, I love happy endings! 😂
the best way to survive in the desert is to get stranded near a lake with a big meadow.
LOL !
Or near a Casino
Lol.. that would help. (Cracked me up.)
@@wernesgruder1 casino.. lol. (That's cool too.)
my man used water to clean his mouth, in the beginning, spitting it out wasting a shit ton lol
The RCAF had a great film called "FIRST AID FOR AIRCREW" which was about a crashed C-47 crew and the type of injuries treated, is there any chance you might find it? I was an RAF cadet when i first saw it amongst a class of 30, plus officers, by the time it ended i was the only one in the room, as the others had to leave from shock, or unable to face what they saw (simulations), apart from the Instructor and projectionist. I absorbed all the details. I took a First Aid course, became an instructor and later a medic and health professional as well as a reservist with the British forces. That film was a diamond, a real shocker but so realistic. I bet your viewers would love it.
Lol has time to season snake before eating. Bad ass
not gonna lie that landing looked painful
I’m hooked too
I mean, just the gear alone is so Derek Meddings/Jerry Anderson great stuff
Love these old military videos, such emmy acting!!! 😂😂
But they are full of useful information, nonetheless.
I had to grab a glass of water halfway through.
Why not ask the camera crew for some water?
At their prices..
Pfft
@@fatherthomas1575 damn unions
Legend has it he is still limping in the dessert
Is he limping in ice cream? I love limping in the dessert
“No snakes were harmed in the making of this film”
USA: "Your brain is the finest survival kit you'll ever need."
UK/AU/NZ: "Have a cup of tea?"
In my Air Force you just wait till mealtime and the chuck wagon be by with hot food cold drinks
No solar still from hole, canvass, can, piss and pebble? Otherwise well done, Captain Hammond.
I want to find out more old vintage film channels
son, the book says you taste like chicken - and that's YOUR tough luck. sensational
I'm so sorry everybody in the comment section I gotta say it:"WATCH OUT FOR SNAKES!!!"
Your brain is the finest survival kit you will ever have….truth from real world experience, broken down in the desert onetime and separated from my hunting party in the mountains of Oregon for a bit (bout 4 hours). Keep your wits about you, a small bit of preps (according to your budget will go along way too). Water in the car, a good pocket knife , couple of ration packets, cell phone charger etc.
I shake my head at the spendy “survival kits” being pushed on the market these days, many buy them and shove them in a a pack and never think about them till they might possibly need to use em……scary and dumb.
prepare and master your kit
in your back yard
@@grahamfisher5436 that’s right, the more working experience you have with it the more prepared you will be in a “survival situation”. Most people buy shit (pardon my French) and toss it in the closet along with a hundred other “talismans of protection”
@@Hardworking_Trucker your absolutely correct
folks buy shit and never use it or don't know how too.
I paddle a open Prospector canoe 🛶 do lots of camping 🏕 trips
every single bit O kit has multiple functions.
eg . my paddles
are also the canoe tent shelter poles, and
server as both a rudder ( down wind) and the daggerboard ( upwind) when I'm canoe sailing ⛵. plus a "hitting" stick if needed ( not needed so far 😀)
weight has to be kept down as much as possible.
and each bit o kit has to justify its space and uses.
plus yes .. I will test things out at home before I take it out there.
I'll deliberately try to brake kit. test its weak points..
Best kit - minimum working / moving parts,
my camping kit is the basic traditional type
May I recommend you watch the CZcams channel
*5 minutes with a Maine guild*
Lisa de Hart
these videos show practices and kit, that are no messing around
can't afford to fail
both canoeing and camp craft .
hope your good and well
22:18 Given that he was so low on water, I wonder why he chose to salt the snake. I know he probably did it to make it taste better, but he salted it before he knew the cactus definitely had water in it. Surely salting the snake would have made him thirstier than he would have been otherwise. Maybe it would make sense to salt it just to restore some electrolytes that would have otherwise been lost to sweating though. Maybe he should have just used a tiny bit of one salt tablet instead (just to restore some electrolytes) and made due with under salted snake steaks.
I wondered the same thing in the other other castaway pilot survival video. They implied some sort of survival purpose for salt. I'm guessing because sodium affects blood pressure, and because athletics/exertion depletes blood electrolyte sodium levels. I believe it could cause muscle weakness & clumsiness (dangerous) and perhaps even delirium and seizures.
I read a little about "rehydration salts" in use in 3rd world countries before.. but unless it somehow keeps you from peeing out your water, I don't get how it could magically rehydrate you
I live in barstow.. nobody came for help...
I think that maybe the aboriginal method of snake preparation would be a lot less effort. Just chuck the thing on the embers.
like a potato in aluminium foil?
@@anomalyp8584 Only without the foil.
Nothing like eating hot snake shit and partially digested mice (snake puke) in the desert when you are dehydrated and your injured knee is killing you!
@@stingraybeach9710 More likely to throw the guts to the dogs.
@Evan Hodge He's reputed to be a regular guy.
I’d have fun out there. Nothing but my dogs and a kit, out in the desert.
Wouldn't it be better if he held the vertical antenna vertically instead of almost horizontal?
no modern teen will survive without his mobilephone XD
You have to watch out how you approach a helicopter. Some bkades come very low.
Thats what killed Vic Morrow and the Young boy in The Twilight Zone movie .
Jay Hockley Well no, in that case the helicopter crashed directly on top of them.
Looks like it was filmed at Holloman AFB or WSMR
Limps off into the desert without his parachute, lost sense of direction. Well prepared, ready to break the basic rules of survival.
"Remember, your brain is the finest survival kit you will ever have."
Why , did he leave his parachute ?
Because he just crash landed, injured, and was still in shock rather than being 100% logical? ;)
Speaking from a LOT of experience, if water is your concern, do NOT start a fire unless you're going to freeze to death first. A small, warm fire will suck nearly a quart of water out of you over the course of one night. I've tried it both ways many times.
Obviously this does not apply to signal fires because you don't have to sit next to them.
Very true. Do note that the limit for hypothermia is surprisingly high, and that temperatures in the high desert often vary by 40-50 degrees. If it only gets up to 100 F, it may drop to 55 F at night, where hypothermia is possible unless your clothing and sleeping bag are up to the task. In the Sahara, 75 F swings can take place.
It's funny what they used to teach back then.
Spitting out water and exerting yourself during the daytime.
Anybody know the actor who did the voice narration of the young downed pilot? His voice is oh so familar. His awh shucks delivery gives a strong pathos and believeability.
Actor voice sounds like Morgan Freeman I think
Ive been through the desert on a tortoise with no name
Try "Nuclear Vault ", excellent films.
And that is a happy ending
Las Vegas desert is the arrakis of dune lol
2021
" What kind of Sauce do you want with your McRattler Nuggets ?? "
Looks like Nevada to me
That chart on how many days without water. How do they do it?
RIP snake :(
Hey bad navigator man....see those mountains in the distance....well ill give u a hint one side always makes shade
*Spoiler Alert*
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That rescue chopper at the end is crazy! What is it?
at about 9 minutes he had fixed his rope in a height where he wont be able to climb with his injuries i guess...
That dude was thirsty af.
Better than anything Netflix
I get it the Sonoran is treacherous
My only advice is stay the hell out of those places,, OK stay in the south at least here I know where all the bars are,, gb
Desert or ocean? Which would you rather be stuck in?
no solar still ?