Very nice intro into VPX, well thought out overview. Avoid any site that wants to charge you money or a subscription to download these tables folks. They are free and created by some very talented folks who deserve a lot of credit for helping us re-live our past. Thank you for this content Dogcast and Ty!
Build my own..had old 32" tv,old pc,old 21" monitor,old speakers in the house..bought 16mm chipboard, arcade buttons/encoder board and some angle profile steel for legs. no solenoids etc. bells and whistles stuff...totally cost around 150$
This was actually a lot of fun to listen to--that is, I don't intend to make my own pinball table but still, listening to the process was pretty neat. Though, that said, I could see Midwest Media Show's Dan Brozeman looking into this and getting himself into trouble.
Don't love pin myself, but I am thinking this could be the ultimate arcade build if you want to make it a combo cabinet putting 2 controllers on top a steering wheel that flips out where the coin door is, and 2 guns holstered on the sides a screen that is a little wider than the normal pinball backglass is for a bigger screen, you could even just mount the screen on the wall to make the build easier..
Well i did it a different way. I bought a Faeton 1985 empty cabinet the machine had been stripped to repair 5 Faetons by the seller. So i could only fit a 40" playfield. Its not finished but im waiting for the contol boards and lighting control
Im seriously gona put my 43" Aorus 120hz 4K into a box and just run the wire to my PC instead of puting a PC inside. It would be nice if I could just mount an old TV as the backglass onto the box with a mount that screws into the back of the TV and mounted to the main box.
Excellent video. So what is the comparison costs if you build one on your own VS buying one. How much can I save? Also where do I download the pinball games for this?
A full on plug and play VP machine with all the bells and whistles will run about $8K. You can find cheaper models, but if you want the most pinball like experience, that's pretty much what you're going to pay!
@@JosvanMeer You can play hundreds or even thousands of different pinball games on one $8,000 virtual machine. If you only want one real machine, then you have a great point. If you want more than one real machine, try multiplying $8,000 times the number of real machines that you want to buy. Another benefit to buying a virtual pinball machines is space. Virtual machines are great for people that don't have the space for multiple real machines.
Depends on who you bought it through. I made this one myself from parts. If you purchased it from someone, I would check with them first. Otherwise, I'd check the power supplies to make sure they're all working.
How about just introduce people to simplier pinball builds first, and then let them take the next step themselves as they adopt the hobby? Personally I can't even fit a fullsize or even halfsize cab. Eventho I've managed to fit two Pachislo's and one Pachinko. But I am thinking of developing a smaller sized VP machine with something like an APU solution, I believe that it can be done. Biggest problem is finding a good screen really. I'm leaning towards perhaps a few years old tablet screen since tablet do have pretty good screens and they drop in price like crazy. For buttons I'd probably go with regular concave and cherry quality microswitches and some smaller motors for shocks. It would be fun to see how well one can build with as small as a 10inch screen.
It depends. What did you try? I did it both with a 1060 and a 3060. Now try connecting 3 screens, running VPX and everything else at with your playfield set in 4K. And tell me if you reach 120fps to match your 120hz playfield with just a 1080. You will not.
@@locked01 It depends, I have an old RX570 and it can play VPX and FX3 tables no problem at 4K with at least two screens. I only hit performance issues if I run pup packs with some tables, in which case yes you need a faster GPU but anything above a 1080/3060/6600 is overkill. Really, visual pinball is not that demanding until you try to run the latest Pinball M/FX because it runs on Unreal Engine and isn't well optimized. True, if you have a 4k 120+ hz screen and are running a triple or quad screen setup with pup packs than you do need some power but even there a 3060 ti is generally enough.
Overkill? Try underpowered. He talked about running 4k. Try that at 120Hz or better and let us know how your 1080 worked. Did the ball roll smoothly, without stutter?
500 dollars of solenoids? Wow. Also raw plywood with paint rolled on looks terrible. But I can dig it. Cabinet grade plywood, muddled and primed, enamel maybe? Yes!
Very nice intro into VPX, well thought out overview. Avoid any site that wants to charge you money or a subscription to download these tables folks. They are free and created by some very talented folks who deserve a lot of credit for helping us re-live our past. Thank you for this content Dogcast and Ty!
it not that much and VPD haves everything you need . just saying but i do use all of them .
Build my own..had old 32" tv,old pc,old 21" monitor,old speakers in the house..bought 16mm chipboard, arcade buttons/encoder board and some angle profile steel for legs. no solenoids etc. bells and whistles stuff...totally cost around 150$
(If you're nuts) A great way to sum up trying to replicate Ty's projects. I don't know how he does all of that with only 24 hours in a day
These things are pretty rad... yknow what would be sick is if the screen was glasses-free stereoscopic 3D.
That would be epic
Awsome vid and build bud! Thanks for the shout out! Glad to know I was able to help with the videos I made 👍👍👍
This was actually a lot of fun to listen to--that is, I don't intend to make my own pinball table but still, listening to the process was pretty neat. Though, that said, I could see Midwest Media Show's Dan Brozeman looking into this and getting himself into trouble.
Good presentation, fun to watch
Lords of the Trident rule!!!
Excellent information! TY!
Don't love pin myself, but I am thinking this could be the ultimate arcade build if you want to make it a combo cabinet putting 2 controllers on top a steering wheel that flips out where the coin door is, and 2 guns holstered on the sides a screen that is a little wider than the normal pinball backglass is for a bigger screen, you could even just mount the screen on the wall to make the build easier..
thats amazing
Im ordering some parts today
Yall got it wrong, its weed and video games, video games and weeds
Well i did it a different way. I bought a Faeton 1985 empty cabinet the machine had been stripped to repair 5 Faetons by the seller. So i could only fit a 40" playfield. Its not finished but im waiting for the contol boards and lighting control
You try buying a KL05Z I couldn't get one so I got something better
Im seriously gona put my 43" Aorus 120hz 4K into a box and just run the wire to my PC instead of puting a PC inside. It would be nice if I could just mount an old TV as the backglass onto the box with a mount that screws into the back of the TV and mounted to the main box.
Who is cooler, the virtual pinball buys, or the modern arcade machine guys?;)
he missing few things like Bass shaker and shaker motor. i don't think he talk about amp's either. and didn't talk about SSF either
Excellent video. So what is the comparison costs if you build one on your own VS buying one. How much can I save? Also where do I download the pinball games for this?
A full on plug and play VP machine with all the bells and whistles will run about $8K. You can find cheaper models, but if you want the most pinball like experience, that's pretty much what you're going to pay!
@@scottschultz1961 Might as well buy a real one at that price. I dont see the appeal tbh.
@@JosvanMeer You can play hundreds or even thousands of different pinball games on one $8,000 virtual machine. If you only want one real machine, then you have a great point. If you want more than one real machine, try multiplying $8,000 times the number of real machines that you want to buy. Another benefit to buying a virtual pinball machines is space. Virtual machines are great for people that don't have the space for multiple real machines.
Then you have one table….
I bought one a couple years ago and now when I turn it on it automatically shuts off. What could I do to fix this?
Depends on who you bought it through. I made this one myself from parts. If you purchased it from someone, I would check with them first. Otherwise, I'd check the power supplies to make sure they're all working.
Why don't the Chinese make mini virtual pinball machines with lots of cheap illegal games?
How about just introduce people to simplier pinball builds first, and then let them take the next step themselves as they adopt the hobby?
Personally I can't even fit a fullsize or even halfsize cab. Eventho I've managed to fit two Pachislo's and one Pachinko.
But I am thinking of developing a smaller sized VP machine with something like an APU solution, I believe that it can be done.
Biggest problem is finding a good screen really. I'm leaning towards perhaps a few years old tablet screen since tablet do have
pretty good screens and they drop in price like crazy. For buttons I'd probably go with regular concave and cherry quality microswitches
and some smaller motors for shocks. It would be fun to see how well one can build with as small as a 10inch screen.
What's up with the vest lol
gtx 1080 what? this game is so light, a 1080 is definitely way overkill
It depends. What did you try? I did it both with a 1060 and a 3060. Now try connecting 3 screens, running VPX and everything else at with your playfield set in 4K. And tell me if you reach 120fps to match your 120hz playfield with just a 1080. You will not.
@@locked01 It depends, I have an old RX570 and it can play VPX and FX3 tables no problem at 4K with at least two screens. I only hit performance issues if I run pup packs with some tables, in which case yes you need a faster GPU but anything above a 1080/3060/6600 is overkill. Really, visual pinball is not that demanding until you try to run the latest Pinball M/FX because it runs on Unreal Engine and isn't well optimized. True, if you have a 4k 120+ hz screen and are running a triple or quad screen setup with pup packs than you do need some power but even there a 3060 ti is generally enough.
Overkill? Try underpowered. He talked about running 4k. Try that at 120Hz or better and let us know how your 1080 worked. Did the ball roll smoothly, without stutter?
Why dose he have a girls haircut and a girlscout vest?
500 dollars of solenoids? Wow.
Also raw plywood with paint rolled on looks terrible.
But I can dig it. Cabinet grade plywood, muddled and primed, enamel maybe? Yes!
I would have just bought laminated ply. No need to paint