Bracing In Disc Golf Is SIMPLE
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- čas přidán 29. 01. 2023
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Sloppy bracing eats away your power. Good bracing is everything. In this video I show you how to make use of the front leg, and what to do with the back leg. Hint: there will be no back leg twisting.
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Great video! hadn't heard it put like this. Excited to try it out in the next month or so
Thank you for pushing back against the stuff being spread about doing something with the back leg to make the throw happen. Just let it do its thing like you said! It naturally counters the force of the disc swinging out away from the body.
Yes. Easy to get that feeling, is swing like 4-6kg kettleball or something. You'r back leg automatically kick back (For counterbalance) otherwise you drop to your knees. In my opinion disc is so light that allows you to bring back leg forward with the disc, so you can throw it still without good brace. It's fly maximally like 80-100m then.
This has been holding me back in distance. going to be working specifically on this over the next month or so. Thanks for all the great content, it helps a lot!
You got this!
Great video, as usual! Eagle made a comment a couple days ago in a q&a to someone asking about how to increase arm speed for more distance. He said that when it comes to distance people worry too much about the arm and not enough about what happens in the lower body which he said is far more important than the upper body for gaining distance. Not that you need the back up, but it's nice to have from a player like that and it supports everything I've heard you say on this silly little website. And I've heard Simon say similar things too.
Thanks. I think it's true, too. You just lose all the arm speed if you don't know how to use the legs. You can swing and pull and yank with all the power you've got, but if you're standing on ice, the disc will go nowhere. That's why we need a solid base and a brace we can rely on.
Honestly I think we should stop saying arm speed and start saying hip speed.
Hej Jaani, this helped a lot. I was stuck at 100m for a long time. The cue to push "down" on the brace leg helped me a lot and immediately got me to 121m. I feel like minor tweaks can give me even more...
LOVE your videos brother! No nonsense, to the point teaching....you're the best!! TY!
Thank you for the advice! I can't wait to try this out.The concept of bracing has been hard for me to grasp.
I've watched a few of your videos. You got my subscription with this one (mostly because I only recently learned about bracing and you're dead on confirming it)
Very excited to start trying out these techniques one by one throughout the next month or so. Really want to hammer down these basics so then I can just let me body take care of the rest.
Excellent video. Very helpful.
Good job. Thank you for all the concepts that you share
Love your content man! You really give the most helpful tips 🙏🏼
Really enjoy your content. Thanks!
I look forward to your videos so much! Your teaching style definitely connects with me and makes sense right away. Even before I go to the field to work on the drills, I can already understand the logic and purpose from the explanation. Thank you so much!!
Same. Jaani methods working. Never see teaching style like this. This really going to help me next summer.
To be honest, these are all very old and proven methods and I only tell them the way I think makes them easy to understand. There is nothing new in bracing and putting weight on the front leg. This is the exact reason it works.
Awesome instruction!!!
Jaani with some more gold to share with the peasants. my hat is off to you sir. would love to see a video on timing and teh weight shift, i feel like. im not shifting weight correctly, i think my coach will be able to help in tomorrow's session. off to watch the post man drill!
Great video, thanks for this. Subscribed!
Joel Freeman posted a very similar video recently. I like how you explained it in detail... Good stuff!
Thanks, I have to look it up!
100% Jaani! Can't believe I missed this one... I just made literally the same video!
So nice that you nailed this 8 months ago, I just figured it out. This should have 30X as many views!
Yay! Thank you! I'll check yours!
Great vid. That is one of the things I've been trying to fix in my throw.
It takes so much courage and definitely patience also, which I lack. You really need to feel and wait for the moment, when you have all the pressure on the front leg and ONLY then you throw. GG and Wiggins are the best examples of this... not surprisingly.
Imo easily the best video of the new 1on1 series, i think you nailed it this time.
A guess practice makes perfect, on CZcams and on DG courses.
Love your videos.
I've been surfing a lot of disc golf videos for bracing tips, and seen a lot of talk about putting your weight on the back leg. One thing I've noticed about all of those though is they never show the actual pros doing it very often. Feel much more confident in your videos, seeing real players using the tips you're discussing
The thing is, You walk with two legs.
At one point, ALL your weight must be on the back leg since you don't hop on one foot. That is self-evident, as you have to walk on two legs. Then, as you stride forward and get ready to throw, you shift your weight onto the front leg. Then, you push against the body with the front leg to make yourself rotate. At the same time, you throw with your arm.
Such a great and clear explanation!
Thanks a lot!
I like the car crash/ ABS analogy!
Solid base, that's what we need. Not one that moves under the leg.
This is the first time it has clicked for me. Thank you.
Hrm, never really heard it explained like this either. Gotta try some drills, thanks!
This video just added 20-30 feet for me and I only tried it for 9 holes so far. Love these tips, thanks man!
Glad to hear!
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you!
Thanks for watching!
Came here from Overthrow. Love this vid and the explanation. Good stuff!
Nice that you came!
good stuff
Game changing 🤯
You're right!
great comparison with a car crash, and explaing why I see many pro's draging the left food. TY
Love it
Really enjoying these videos! I guess that the front foot turn as a follow through and not as a concious movement? Thx for the quality info.
This is true, more so even, when the weight is on the heel.
Straightening the front leg during the smash IS bracing.
That's all. Job done.
You certainly can straighten the leg without actually bracing, but something like that, sure.
Your instruction is revolutionary. Amazing content.
Oh, thanks! I think this is all very old news and thoroughly tried in all of sports.
Ah, I meant the clarity with which you communicate the concepts. 😊@@dgspindoctor
That I will take! Thanks!
Tää selvensi kyllä nyt jotain asioita.. Kiitosta! :)
Great video, now i need to get to a field. How long do you need to practice before it becomes natural?
Thanks! I have no answers to this. Maybe you nail it on the first try, maybe it takes longer. You just need courage to trust your front leg, and maybe some fitness training too, if you don't feel comfortable yet.
Found your videos last week and have watched all of the English ones multiple times. Completely changed my throw, still just using a net in the garage but I had to move the net forward because the discs started hitting the wall behind, before only drivers would hit the wall, now putters and mids are hitting it too. The disc rips out of my hand so fast. I never thought 1 tip would change everything but I finally get bracing and how to do it.
I found an Albert Tamm form video with English subtitles, how many of your Finnish (I hope that's the right language) videos have English subtitles?
Thanks! The Brace is the foundation of the throw, both backhand and sidearm. I only have Albert at the moment, but I have switched the language now permanently, so there will be more to come. I have changed my approach to coaching also, so the finnish videos belong to my past atleast emotionally. No more complicating things, but making them as simple as possible.
@@dgspindoctor Keep doing what you're doing I think your way of explaining things the body does and needs to do is easy to understand and replicate. I look forward to future videos!
Few years ago I was implementing this ”football/soccer kick analogy”, that your throwing hand/side of body should work similiar to a leg that kicks the ball - and vice versa, the outrigger, eg. supporting leg should stop abruptly and firmoy to the other side of the ball before the ”hit”. AND what would happen if the weight is not on your supporting leg? 😂
That ”move” has grown into my backbone as I’ve started playing football when I was 6yo, so you just don’t think it anymore.
But visualising all this into a sideways stride movement has been difficult for some reason. And I think I’ve stated this same analogy somewhere in these ”form forums”, but haven’t received any ”confirmation” to my thoughts, so I’ve kind of forgotten it.
You don’t do any ”tricks” with your supporting leg in kicking football, so why would you do it when throwing an object 🤷🏻♂️
Thanks for the perscription doc!
Take one every morning. It will get worse until it gets better.
ABS breaking made me laugh out loud ... love the channel !!!
Simple best the brace-video🤝. Is it okay to twist the back foot when you start to practise that movement and trying to make it natural?
Well, if you really find it helpful. But you see, there is no need to make it twist, it just needs to be weightless, just like you see in the second clip by Wiggins. It twists only because your torso twists. The leg is in the air, it doesn't provide power anymore.
En oikein osaa kirjottaa tätä enkuks, mutta onko hyvä idea pitää kaikki paino vain varpailla ja päkijöillä ristiaskeleessa? Kantapää ei edes koske maahan. Eikös se auta takajal saamista painottomaksi?
Kyllä. Takajalka varpahillaan, se on paras tapa.
I like the video. One additional thing that would be really helpful to hear is how to keep the weight from coming up over the brace - how to keep it behind the brace so that when you rotate, you have that nice angle in your front leg that keeps your weight back.
Thanks. In a nutshell: By pushing back with the leg and letting the upperbody work from there. Common mistake is to rotate the upperbody too soon, which tends to result in sawying over the front leg.
@@dgspindoctor Thanks!
That ABS joke was a good analogy and a true Finnish deadpan moment. Win - win.
Haha, thanks! I genuinly couldn't proceed from there anymore. So cut, and continue.
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I lov that abs moving 😂 thx again Jaani 👍🏻
Called abs 👍🏻
Glad you liked it!!
What are your thoughts on Kristin Tattar's form? She does a sorta skip.. my assumption is that helps with the weight to go downward into ground versus outward?
Now that I watch Garrett Gurthie, it's sorta similar to KT's.
Kristin's form is very efficient, propably the best for her.
yeah im def not bracing that have to be my issue..
It's cool seeing all the hipster cool kids learning to throw like Climo 🤘👓
Yes. Or to be more exact, Ken Jarvis.
I still don't understand. Where is the actual power coming from for the throw? I thought it was about weight transfer, but if your brace foot has all of your weight on it at the coil phase, then your weight has already transferred, so how do you get any power from it?
It is the pressure shift which has to be quick.
@@dgspindoctor If all of the weight is on the front foot then all of the pressure is too. So how do you shift your pressure? Also you talked about not using your feet to rotate your hips, so how do you rotate your hips? It doesn't happen naturally
You have to skip off of the back leg, then you have pressure on the back for a split second. Like walking. And even if your weight is on the front leg, you can add pressure by going down, like pushing your weight down. Try it!
And of course your feet rotate by itself. You rotate the shoulders and torso, and the hips rotate because of that. Your feet rotate because of that. Just give it a shot and you'll probably notice.
How long have you played? Have ever even tried not to micromanage all the movements? Just let the body work for you and it gets A LOT easier.
@@dgspindoctor don't really know what you mean by the first couple of sentences. Tried what I understand but can't figure out how to apply any more pressure than 100% of my weight. Tried the rotating from the shoulders and torso, which does turn the feet slightly (though is a bit painful on the knee) and it seems to result in a slower/shorter throw than if I just threw from a standstill with no footwork or body movement. Will keep trying but the foot just seems to slow down the throw.
I've been playing for about 4 months (no athletic background), and really still just trying to grasp the very basics of throwing. Can sometimes throw about 200 feet when I keep my weight on the back foot and shift weight forward onto front foot to power the throw (rotating from the back foot and letting hips pull the torso which then pulls the arm). Powering from the upper body or arm gets about 100 feet or less. Never done any micromanagement really. Watched a bunch of tutorials and can't understand much of them. Trying to keep things simple, but I can't really look at what some one is doing with their body and mimic that with my own, and I can't really feel what I'm doing with my body, so I've mostly been looking for math-based instructions (timing, specific angles for different body parts) but I haven't found anything along those lines. Visual interpretation and feeling are difficult, but math is easy. I'm also very neurodivergent and have bad balance (also knock-kneed and have one flat foot).
Thank you for putting up with me, and I very much appreciate your info and response.
Float more, steer less.
I think Luke Humphries does the spin around.
You can be a great player without being a great driver.
@@dgspindoctor as far as professional disc golf goes Luke is mediocre at best.
Couple of lead card appearances on DGPT is still more than 99,99 per cent of disc golfers will ever achieve.
@@dgspindoctor true but thats why I said as far as professional disc golf goes, meaning at that level he's mediocre at best.
Slingshot disc golf has destroyed my backhand and caused me tons of frustration and pain in my upper body. Everything is taught off the back leg, the opposite of this, and had made my throw wildly inconsistent. In contrast, this opened up an entire new world of distance and accuracy. Thank you so damn much
I know, I know. If it helps to know, you are not the only one. There is cult out there to be disbanded quite soon. There are no gurus, and there shouldn't be any. Take everything with a grain of salt, go and experiment and consider all tips as they are, tip and suggestions. I am pretty confident that what I'm telling you is good info, but there is always a possibility of misunderstanding or confusing wording, and I certainly am not a guru either.
@@dgspindoctor thanks for the reply man! Awesome that you actually engage with people on here. It’s good to know that it’s not just me that this “slingshot method” is messing with, although I hope no one else is getting injured by making it such an upper body movement. By the way, saying “I’m no guru” seems oddly like something an actual guru would say….
Haha, being a no-guru ain't easy. Can't say anything without sounding a guru.
To be fair to Slingshot, he has pretty clear disclaimers regarding just offering his own opinions based on his personal exploration and development of techniques to the point of advising to consult your doctor in advance.
@@alfresco4805 if you have to consult a doctor to do a movement that doesn’t require a doctors supervision, as per the case for essentially every sport in existence, then something is wrong. I’m an athlete, I fought for years, body builded and power lifted for a long time prior to disc golf, simply put his teaching is downright moronic.
wysocki kinda sumos a little
Sometimes yes, but quite late after the release.
So opposite on what "back leg disc golf" is teaching then?
Well, basically the back leg is only for getting you to the front. Really, the back leg disc golf is not a thing and had never been a thing.
I couldn’t agree more with this approach, but a problem I have is rotating my lead foot to avoid injuring my knee. I know it but for some reason I have not been able to figure out the right timing to do it while trying to keep power in the throw. Suggestions?
Thanks for sharing! I am hesitant to teach the foot, because I have some good tips and suggestions, but when done through videos there is a big chance of misunderstanding. I don't want anyone to get hurt, and even if it's not my problem if you do something stupid in private, I don't want to risk getting sued by telling people to hold of rotating the lead foot by activating certain muscles or thinking the certain way. There has already been accusations of me ruining peoples lives with my teaching, so...
@@dgspindoctor Damn, sorry to hear of he accusations against you. Not sure how anyone could ever accuse you or any other person who gives tips on disc golfing of ruining their lives. Take the tip, don't take the tip, that's on us. Well, I appreciate guys like you sharing your experiences an thoughts around becoming a better disc golfer. Keep it up. 👍
I'm pretty sure they were trolling, but yea, "a friend of mine smashed his knee and will never play again because taking your advice" was the claim. The backleg disc golf movement has very fanatic internet warriors, and I believe it had something to do with that. Still, don't want to risk someone suing me for their own mistakes.