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Oh no... that first interchange is very phallic looking... and then all that stuff I say... ah man
hi man i think las alamos is a great name for the casino city... like if you agree
@@m.r.a.groupoficial3706 I like Las Cruces better
@@ramiromunoz1161 same
I know its not in your interest to, but you said many videos ago about releasing the next save game.. is that on the cards or not? :)
@@ramiromunoz1161 i like it to but it represent a coastal city
Nothing better than tuning in to Marble Mountain after a tough week at uni
Or school
Going back on January 😣. I hate the stress
Agreed, especially after polishing off a semester!
I’m a teacher and I share this sentiment 😂 😴
@@lar.bi_ yeah me too lol :):)
I used to live in Tucson, a smaller desert town in Arizona, and usually we’d call those roads frontage roads.
With cities like Las Vegas and Phoenix, huge square grid layouts were preferred over more rectangular ones because of simplicity, cost, and speed. There's always traffic lights at the large intersections of these grids (usually a mile or so apart) with the occasional lights between these larger avenues, which are more spaced out compared to those of a rectangular grid, meaning less stopping for traffic which is ideal for larger sprawling cities. City planners and developers probably had less to worry about as well when they had the consistency of working with 1x1 mile blocks. So basically squares are better for sprawl lol
I used to live in Fresno, CA outside of DT they thoroughly follow that square like grid it’s trippy too see on google maps.
@Carl Nielsen Yep, many newer cities with flat land are like that in the US. Las Vegas, Phoenix, Tulsa (where I live), OKC, Wichita, Kansas City, Omaha, etc
The airport tho
I can’t wait
It’s called a “frontage road” here in Wisconsin!
I LOVE THIS SERIES ❤️❤️
me too:):)
The square grid became really popular in American cities after the Northwest Ordinance of 1787. New territories were broken up into mile by mile grids, and a “township” was 36 square miles (6 miles in each direction to make a perfect square).
If you’re ever bored just look up cities like Indianapolis/Chicago/Columbus, that’s where the square grid started and it became the standard in westward expansion.
Also in Indiana they’re called local (outside lanes with exits) and express (inside lanes that you can’t exit from)
Actually, you can call these roads "collector lanes" 😊
Or frontage roads!
@@Maximilian_R1 or feeder roads…
*yeehaw*
Or even access roads too :)
or "service roads" or "local" vs "express" lanes
You know, I have no idea how I found your channel but man, this was relaxing to watch and just listen to whats going on, I have to say I am one of those people that like the tedium of doing small things and getting them to work it's just immensely satisfying. Thank you you may have just earned another sub :)
I've always heard those side roads get called "Frontage Roads"
Fantastic episode btw so excited for casino city!
Thank god for a Marble mountain episode now that a 2nd lockdown has started :')
hahaha
Lockdowns wont stop until politicians are taught to fear the public again.
Another main thing Las Vegas is known for is in many states in the US, the flat areas were partitioned into mile-by-mile blocks, but Las Vegas has jagged blocks because the original surveyor didn't do a great job.
I live in the Phoenix metro area, I've always called the roads that parallel the freeway frontage roads they connect the smaller neighborhood roads to the main road where you can access the freeway. if you look at the I17 as it travels north/south, west of downtown Phoenix you will get the idea of it, I am pie, hits it right on the head, Phoenix and Las Vegas are both built mostly in flat desert areas without much of anything getting in the way of straight lines main roads are a mile apart intersections have traffic lights, half-mile roads will also have traffic lights with a longer green light given to the main road, even smaller roads will connect but without light and must yield to main road traffic.
Casino City looks like it is gonna be very big. Also you should name Montana, Oakwood and Casino City the tri-city metropolitan area tbh. Since the cities are literally a stone throw away from one and another. Also should build some small town between Oakwood and the Casino city. I love the series btw
I always enjoyed making interchanges the most, and here you are struggling your way through them... love to see this haha
Those outer lanes are called Collector Distributor lanes, or you might see it written as C/D lanes. They are different to feeder or service roads in Texas, as they do not directly connect to intersecting roads. They typically have a lower speed limit than the highway, and this is to allow interchanges to be slightly closer together, and also prevent weaving. They aren’t actually meant as a local/express roads, but sometimes they are signed that way.
Cities in the western US are more of a grid shape simply because it is easier to survey. Not really a complicated reason, just that it was easier.
If curious about our "concrete rivers" it's because it doesn't rain much here and the longer you go without rain the harder it is for the ground to absorb water. So when monsoon season comes around and it starts raining hard after a dry spell, we get flash floods all around. These "rivers" help drain those floods.
it’s called a frontage road. in my city (albuquerque, NM, USA) we have them running along i25 after a specific road and i like to take it simply because it’s not as chaotic as the rest of the highway
In Toronto, the parallel lanes to the highways are called Collector Lanes and your concrete rivers are Aquaducts.
Here in Toronto, we have a system on Highway 401 (busiest highway in North America!) with express and collector lanes. The express lanes are in the centre, with less interchanges, while the collector lanes are on the outside and they interchange with almost every main avenue. Periodically, there are points where you can transfer from express to collector lanes, or vice versa. Take a look at it on Google Earth!
@9:00 In Texas we call them feeder roads and they are on every single highway in big cities. It really does help clear up traffic on the highways during rush hours and if people want to only go a few blocks instead of miles down the highway
And typically there is low density commercial along them
The lanes that run alongside the highway are called Frontage roads :)
There are two types of roads that are parallel and next to highways: frontage roads provide access to buildings built near the highway, while collector lanes are roads which serve to separate local traffic, that is currently entering or exiting the highway, or only travelling a short distance, from express traffic, which is travelling a long distance.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local%E2%80%93express_lanes
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontage_road
Wait there are also service roads for servicing the highway and emergency use
Vegas is an extremely young city on any kind of timescale. Before the Hoover Dam, Vegas was a train depot between Salt Lake City and Los Angeles. It's still that way today and that's why the train line is so prominent through the city center. Double decker cargo trains run very regularly directly from the port of LA right underneath the windows of the most famous resorts in the world.
It also started becoming a major city right as America's obsession with cars kicked into high gear. Which is why you'll find unusually wide roads even near the city center. It's also important to note that anything that's not the strip or downtown is very low density. Even the apartment communities have very sprawling layouts. But I think a good way to break up the red tile roofing of the suburbs would be to add in some neat little hidden gems many people don't know Vegas for. Like the Downtown Summerlin boutiques, Water Street in Henderson, Lake Las Vegas, The UNLV Medical District, Red Rock Canyon, The Atomic Testing Museum, various waterparks, Chinatown, even the new Google data center under construction. There's quite a lot to discover off the strip if you know where to look.
Lots of people are calling them frontage roads, but this usually refer to local roads which run alongside the highway. I think what you’re going for is collector lanes. As many others have pointed out the 401 near Toronto is one of the best examples of this in North America. It’s essentially two highways right next to each other, with several huge “basket weave” interchanges to allow traffic to go from the collectors to the express lanes and vice versa.
Great work as always Two Dollars, the roads you were referring to on the outside of the highway with direct access to businesses are usually called frontage roads which are common along almost any freeway in Texas. This is in contrast to a full blown collector-express system (like you would see on Highway 401 through Toronto) where there is no direct access, or frontage, for businesses.
You always say how you don’t like making interchanges, but then you come up with stuff like this. I would go insane trying to replicate something so complicated, much less trying to emulate it and make it work in my own city. It looks so good. I’m glad you decided to go with the square grid, as well. I believe the reason for the square shape is the way the federal government sold off land to pioneers in the 19th century, but that may not apply to Vegas. Either way, it’s a great touch. Merry Christmas!
also, for those main roads that create the boxy square grid, there is usually only one side that has small roads going into the squares, and there is an express lane that passes all the lights, so you can pass every little intersection you dont want to go on.
I believe they're "Frontage Roads". They're one way roads that sit next to the highway and, from what I have seen, instead of the highway ramps going directly to the road, they merge with the frontage road. Take a look at Lake Underhill Road/East Anderson St. in Orlando next to the 408. I have also heard collector and access roads but not specifically for roads next to highways. In Orlando however, Lake Underhill Road is actually a two way road. They solve this but putting a bridge over the offramp onto E. Lake Underhill. Another example is the newer Frontage Rd in Maitland next to 414. Before I-4 Ultimate, 414 was a mess. So they put flyovers at three different intersections and used a Frontage rd. which they gave the very creative name of "Frontage Rd." between Keller Rd and Maitland Summit.
Those roads running parallel to the highway are called "frontage roads" technically. Here in India we call them "service roads" as they are lined with service shops for vehicles and other shops/hotels.
In Phoenix we have these big squares of roads with them being 6 lanes, and then we would have the neighborhoods in those squares. The reason is because we didn't build new highways until the 80s and 90s. So those 6 lane roads acted as mini highways, but from what I've heard they didn't work very well.
I just recently starting watching this series, and I have to say that I envy your dedication for working on this same region for over two years.
I think the lanes parallel to the freeway are technically called "Auxiliary Lanes" but we just call them feeder lanes. Essentially their only function is to eliminate critical points where traffic frequently gets backed up or there is a lot of accidents because people are trying to merge onto the highway.
I always called them “Express Lanes”
One thing that desert/hot weather cities have are suburbs where the houses are very low and flat, often with earth-tone colors. They might be a good look for the areas outside this metro!
Grew up in Vegas! Las Vegas grew really fast in a relatively short period of time. Some mistakes were made when it came to road planning, so when you see a really wacky road in Las Vegas, you don't need to put too much thought into why that road is there. The 3 highway exits near where I lived in North Las Vegas all had to be redone completely to make them into proper roundabout interchanges. Would be cool to see build with one of the highway interchanges still left under construction in the desert city.
Also if your looking for inspiration for surrounding parklands for Las Vegas, try looking at pictures Red Rock Canyon.
The big square grid pattern in US cities is from how they divided up the land purchased after being recognized as a country for sale to the public the roads were just paved along the divisions so its a 1 mile square grid.
That road besides the highway is called a frontage road, it’s mostly for local traffic as you said
Most US cities are laid out in a square grid pattern. The square pattern comes from the Township and Range style of surveying that was done across the entire United States with the exception of the 13 original colonies, the states of Florida, Texas and Louisiana which were settled prior to the United States by Spain, Mexico and France. Dallas County, Texas is laid out in a 1 mile square grid where all main county roads are 1 mile apart. Smaller roads are at 1/2 mile distances between the major thoroughfares. Collector/Feeder roads run at 1/4 miles and collect traffic from the block long residential or commercial streets. The highways in Dallas, Texas have roads along the highways known as frontage or service roads because they service the properties that have frontage on the highway.. They have lower speed limits usually 45 mph which keeps only local traffic using them.
Las Vegas has the prominent large square grids because its a newer city which follows the classic Section layout of rural America. The Public Land Survey System cut up the US west of Ohio (I think) into one square mile sections further divided into quarter sections of 40 acres. Generally roads were built on the boundaries of sections and quarter sections because it was the land boundary and developers like working with them because they had a single owner and 40 acres is a good scale for a development.
Vegas barely existed prior to mob in 1950s, unlike most other American cities, so the development pattern is extremely car centric and "orderly", most other American cities grew naturally so the quarter sections are not as easily visible until you start getting out into the car suburbs.
9:05 in Western Canada we call them frontage roads. I say Western Canada because I saw someone in Toronto call them something else.
The term for those roads running adjacent to the main highways is frontage road (but they’re also commonly called service roads). A similar road is called a distributor road or local/express road, used heavily when connecting busy interchanges to reduce traffic. Here’s the Wikipedia page for frontage roads if you want to read more about them; the local-express road article is linked within it (and it’s nice to see someone putting them into their city!): en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontage_road
the outer edge roads along the sides of the freeway that you refer to are called 'service roads'. At least thats what we call them here in the states.
Great video... Those access roads are called service roads in the US.
Feeder or collector lanes / roads where they're still separate from the city parts. If you include buildings on the parallel roads they're then called frontage roads.
here in the Bay Area at least we call them express lanes, those are the ones on the inside, on the outside you have the local lanes, express lanes, or toll lanes usually go through the city with limited exits
i love the square grid, we have the same thing here in phoenix arizona. whenever i try to recreate it i find that i run into scaling issues because the avenues are all a mile apart IRL but in cities you have to make them closer together, which means you can’t fit as much stuff in between the avenues, especially when making sprawling suburbs inside the grid
As someone living in Reno it's cool to see wha influence you take from the city, a lot of cool little quirks to it
Marble Mountain is more interesting then Springfield.
yeah i agree:)
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Both are good!
and thats a fact
The road layout looks interesting. Can't wait to see the buildings.
Thanks for the entertainment!
Jasper is a cool idea for a City and it Reminds me of a desert Or antelope after Palmdale which sits in antelope valley
One things that you need to have over the strip is elevated walkways, when I went there there was a massive one every 2 blocks and no crossings on the road
Examples of real life locations I’d love to see in the desert somewhere in the desert,
Monumnet Vally
Canyons (such as canyon lands National park or the Grand Canyon)
A dried up lake bed like the Aral Sea
A large train yard
Utah is one of the most beautiful places in the United States, I’d love to see your interpretation of the limestone and sandstone monoliths and I think it would add an interesting area in marble mountain
I live in Jackson, MS. Check out i55 and frontage road if you want more inspiration for having a highway and side road in the desert city.
The grid layout is square shape is because Las Vegas is a relatively new city. You see the square all over rural America. They are plots of lands for certain types of buildings. Wendover Production has a video on it. It also is square shape because of the crazy suburban sprawl.
At 4:31 the "i dont" caught me so off guard lmao
Thank you for building the city I live in!
So many different stuff’s on this map!
9:20 those types of roads are called frontage roads, they’re really popular in Dubai as well, where I live
I'm from New Jersey and we call the duel highway system: Local (inner roads- Local exits) & Express (outer roads- long distance travel)
Fascinating to see the traffic flow through these
the square grid pattern is sort of a staple of cities on the US "frontier" region. Salt Lake City, Denver, Dallas, Phoenix, Tucson, Las Vegas, all have square grids.
Congrats on 100k man! You deserve it!
Take a look at Tropicana Ave in Las Vegas, where what's almost a freeway crashes into the strip with a traffic signal controlled intersection.
He called our sewage and rain drains “concrete rivers” and I am dying laughing
oh god oh fuck
Well LA River is .. a concrete river. So it's not that far-fetched.
Technically the LA River was a river at some point
We call that interchange the "Spaghetti Bowl" for a reason, it sucks and if you ever drove on it you'll know it isn't easy to drive on and during the 30yrs I've lived here they changed it 3 times to try and fix the traffic and it never works.
you should check out the highway system in Kansas City, as there are some interesting on and off ramps
Glad you like the 15/215 interchange - it is fun to sit in at 6pm and marvel at while moving 5mph. The Vegas grid is square because almost the entire city was paved and planned off of the section grids the state was divided into [ en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_(United_States_land_surveying) ]. You can see the exception in the dense downtown grid - that land was sold in 1905 in a small traditional grid by the Los Angeles & Salt Lake Railroad or was property expanded off of the original town plan.
A little local detail, most of the concrete rivers have a bike path running along side them, and several end in a large park near Henderson called the Clark County Wetlands park. It's a super neat tiny river and swamp in the middle of the desert/suburbs.
Great local info thank you! I can imagine the interchange isn’t as interesting when you’re sitting in traffic
@@twodollarstwenty I left some more local info on the last video. Love the build!:)
In Seattle, the inner lanes are "express lanes" for bypassing the busiest parts of downtown. Not sure what we call the outer lanes of the freeway.
just letting you know that most of vegas is on a very slight slope! that would be really cool if you incorporated that! because it truly is a sight to see when it’s night time and you can see all the lights!
4:30 I think something's missing
I do wait this episode every week
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In the US, we call them frontage or access roads
They are located in a number of states, including Georgia and Florida
During the westward expansion of the U.S. the newly “conquered” frontier was divided into huge grids due to the easier calculation ground prizes for the land. Later, when cities developed there, the large grids were subdivided into smaller ones and new roads oriented on the already laid out routes. That’s why the Google Earth image of a midwestern state like Oklahoma shows grid in it’s entirety, from farmland and small settlements up to Oklahoma city.
In Brazil, we call those as "Local access road", it's a low speed road that is used only to access the city streets!
I actually enjoy making intersections in Cities Skylines. When starting a city i go with very simple designs, but once the are, that the intersection provides with traffic, is getting close to being finished, i make sure to make the intersection look "natural" as in: I try to make it take as little space as possible, leaving no extra capacities. Because in my books an empty intersection is worse than one that causes a traffic jam.
I came across these "collector lanes" while browsing road design on wikipedia.
Good to know I'm not the only person browsing road designs on wikipedia.
the intersections are very *Nice*
In TX they call those "access roads". Other places call them feeder lanes or collectors
Actually all US us Acres (District/Town) and cities just divided them up even more to create density like 1/4-1/8. If you travel at night you can see the acres/square miles a lot better. It looks like rectangular or they break the grid bc the cities were trying to accommodate housing requirements or Freeways/Rail or airplanes paths or terrain or even sun light...etc. Here in LA, South central or Pico union residential roads are connected to collector (1 sq mile) and access road so every 10 blocks is a collector road. Also every major city I’ve visited all had frontage roads/access roads paralleling the freeway/hwy even Las Vegas near the strip and high traffic areas.
In Toronto 🇨🇦 we call those side highways as "collectors"
That kind of square grid is found it a lot of western cities. Such as the suburbs of Denver or Phoenix
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yesss upload more quickly!! I need this for my mental health ❤️
We call the parallel lanes "service roads" where I live.
Loving your work but you should do lane mathematics. Would be cool if you’ll get Biffa going through your traffic when you’re done. Looking forward to next episode :)
Where i live we call those "side roads" marginals, since they are on the margin of the main road
This design is similar to the streets of Dubai. There is a huge intersection in the middle of the city and buildings on the sides of the street, but there are tall towers and there are no casinos because it is forbidden to Islam.
Concerning the extra road next to an Highway, It's a service lane
I'm pretty sure they are called frontage roads, they are very interesting tools but they make interchanges more complicated.
about the type of highway roads you were talking about. it's called an express and collector highway.
the landscape is so Australian.
*REALISTIC DRONE FOOTAGE*
I think the side road that you talk about at 9:10 is called "Feeder road"
I'd love to see playing Biffa in marble mountain 💪
Lookin great
Love the custom highway. That middle highway intersection looks a little weird tho.
I know you decided against an airport but you should maybe consider making a scaled down version of McCarran Airport to make the city feel further away and independent of Montana’s future airport. It doesn’t have to be huge but it gives Vegas vibes
A one mile square grid was drawn up for the entire western half of the country back in the day to encourage western expansion, so it's actually not very unusual for U.S. cities. The east coast predates it and so do some west coast cities but it's very common for cities in the middle to follow that same square grid.
We call them service roads here in Texas.
The secondary roads with the ramps are usually called collector lanes.