Is The Enlisted Merge Good?
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
- Was it worth it?
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00:00 Intro
00:30 Populated Games
02:50 Low Tier Is Back!!
04:35 Variety
05:52 Perks!
07:00 High Tier Is AWFUL
09:30 Tier 3 Is AWFUL
11:55 Too Many Squads
14:35 Presets Suck
16:25 Lack of Polish - Hry
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I didn't mention it in the video, but one other issue with the system is that veteran players have to go back and research an ENTIRE line just to buy something that they already unlocked. This won't affect new players at all since they won't be skipping unlocks, so this problem will disappear as the game goes on. But IMO, its a big "screw you" to the veterans and is, IMO, entirely unnecessary.
Rip enlisted.
pacific and tunisians squads playing on Normandy maps? da f , historically incorrect to boot, and ur right allies get stomped level 5, fn joke, havent seen a pacific or tunisian map yet, dude plz post in enlisted forums maybe they wil listen
@@rbuk2112 yup they must be products of incest or something to think that it's a good idea. No hate towards quadro but the enlisted devs just ruined the game I see almost all negative comments about the merge. Also tired of seeing "if you want historical accuracy go play hell let loose" like if I want to play who just shot me simulator I'd go play rising storm 2 Vietnam
Totally fucked my opinion of enlisted. At least the before the merge I could get research. Now I'm getting obliterated by tiger 2 h when the best tank I have is a jumbo or the 76 a2 Sherman
Planes rockets and bombs are scuffed
that must be a bug or mistake
because if I had wanted it to be that way I would have simply appeared this previous technology alert before I could if I wanted to investigate it
The worst issue I'm having is lack of attention has been paid to British and Italy squad system.
Yep - 'merged' into US and German. You can play them, but now you might get your Desert Rats fighting in the Pacific; a theatre they never fought in! The cool thing about the restricted campaigns was they clearly cared enough to create units that fought in the respective theatres. Now it's all just jumbled shit. If I want to use a Thompson with my US soldiers fighting in 1942 I get forced into Normandy. It's awful
@@rhysthomas2876you are correct man , now all smashed together . Use to love the options to choose theatre and that’s what separated enlisted from the rest . Now it’s just another game I’m going to slowly give up on . I played in April 2021 right when it came out and told my self I’ll never search for another ww2 game . Spoke to soon
@@rhysthomas2876 That´s right, I think that the merge is a kind of fine idea, but what I don´t like is that brits and italians are absorved by the US and the german army, and I think that they should be separated in different trees. It could make way for new campaigns like the invasion of Sicily or Operation Dynamo. I also think that those armies could fight along their allies in certain campaigns or battles, like North Africa, and it could also be good for future nation trees, like the romanians or the french. Also I think that you should have like a campaign selector for those campaigns you don´t actually wanna play, and the matchmaking should have that in mind in order to put you in one campaign or another.
I know this thread is old but the British did in fact fight in the Pacific and South East Asia, they just weren't the big player of that theatre compared to America.
@@robertsteiner4696 yeah but the units depicted are specifically ones that fought in North Africa/Sicily/Italy
10:35 - yes, exactly - removing the possibility to choose a campaign was the most a***ole move in this whole merge. It is the main reason why many people demand returning to the old Enlisted. Not only it enables the situation that you land in a campaign you don't want to - it turns this whole game from a climatic, immersive war simulator where rou could actually feel you now take part in battles in some certain geographic location in a certain period of World War 2 (thanks to the certain pool of machines, weaponry and squads with their historic origin), into a simple unlock-fest of gear and random groups of soldiers from a tree with tiers arbitrarily programmed by the devs. I felt like I lost connection with the game the moment they merged everything.
You damn right guys! The campaign sistem was very immersive, the literally fuckd up.. at least they could put back campaign and mantain tears for each campaign with the weapon upgrade sistem and incelrement he amount of silver earned ( Because I'll tell you I see when a game is worth to buy or not and for where we are going here I will never give a dollar to this people, why just ruin the historic part of a game ?)
Exactly. Why would I want to get stomped by full auto Germans with Tiger II's every match? I just wanted.to play as the Marines in the Pacific, it was early war, it was interesting, and it was fun. Now it's just dog shit unless you're playing as the Germans. If you mained Germany, congratulations, you made the correct choice. Enjoy fighting other Germans in a year when the queue times skyrocket because nobody is playing anything else and Gaijin loses its shit because long queue times must be purged.
I know! I played Enlisted because I could choose which campaign I wanted to play, but now I'm just depressed, actually depressed, not just saying that. I just pray that they bring the campaigns back before too long. I could hop in and out until I land on the campaign I want but that's awful.
@@HortonSalm you probably dont know about the tier system
if you dont wanna play against tiger II you must play tier 1-2
@@girahimar2122 there is a low chance that you can play vs tiger 2 at tier 1-2 xD
Tier 3 probably should have just been it's own matchmaking queue tbh.
I agree, but then you might run into the problem of spreading the playbase out too much
@@cmac007 I mean, there's tradeoffs. I think there's a argument to be made for Tier IV and V Allied tanks being able to deal with KTs in CQC if you're able to get close and smoke their barrels with your short-stop stabilizers, I've done it. I really can't expect a guy who just unlocked his M4A2(75)D Sherman to do the same.
@@yashkasheriff9325 Fair enough
I don't get why we have 5 tiers and only 2 ques to begin with. Tho tbf I also don't know if it does make a difference if I que at tier 1 or tier 2.
@@Kiwi9552 IMO they should make it so that you get more XP if you win a match with "lower than match average" squad. I've been testing out playing with BR3 now. Sometimes you fight against BR1-2 and sometimes 4-5. No big difference on spread. 10 matches, maybe 8 victories.
Only difference is that high tear matches are more of a cluster f*ck. Spamming of nades, molos, rockets, whatever.. This is why I prefer lower tier matches more as I feel that takes more skill and tactics.
Before this I was level 14 in the pacific, with only Springfields, Garands, Carbines, Stuarts, and BARs, now I get to face squads from battle of Berlin with assault rifles and machine, alongside tigers, this is not balanced, when I played the pacific it was very balanced, I was getting great fun game play with tense and amazing gameplay experience.
The Pacific war is what drew me to this game I don't like what they did.
Imagine what its like for berlin players right now. We get nothing but Normandy cancer. You're not the only ones who's campaign got messed with. Fight through and wait until the merge becomes what it's meant to be.
@@jacobmoran475 I just wish they would move the M1 Garand and bar down a tier
It's as if they have never made a game before@@jacobmoran475
its really sad because Tier III has the most variety but you literally cannot use it when you get bottom tier against StGs and KTHs 4/5 times
If equip even just ONE Lee Enfield or SMLE, I am instantly able to queue against wehraboos with all FG 42 IIs. Not balanced at all, which is why Tier II is best atm
Fully agree. That one Item already puts your whole loadout into another Tier is just nuts.
Also Tier 3 should be totally reworked, because as it is right now, you usually get your ass whopped, because you end up against T4/5 most of the time.
Largely the tier categories makes sense, but as said before, the Grant and Crusader are OP in T2
Just my Humble opinion
Then play tier one or two
Okay so it wasn't just me running into a bunch of Tigers and StGs at tier 3. Thought the matchmaker was +1/-1
Yeah it’s crazy. Tier 1/2/3 should be worked on your entire load out !!
Oh the balance is completely fucked. Garands at Tier 4? That puts me against late war automatic German rifle squads. I just wanted to play as the Marines in the Pacific, now I'm getting cut stomped by Tiger II's in Normandy.
My main gripe is what sorta qualifies as tier 2. For some odd reason, Enlisted thinks both a Japanese 37mm paper mache tank and a Grant/Crusader qualify for tier 2. If anything, there should be a tier 6 just to further separate these 2 ends of the spectrum.
The fact the Japanese get the Ho-I (which has a 75mm) at BR 2 is stupid. Not only that but the Chi-Ha short gun is at BR 3 even though it has less armour than the Ho-I that being said it does have a 120mm derp gun
Yeah the Americans seem so OP in the pacific now you can bring all your squads and guns over from the other campaigns while the Japanese just stay the same
Yeah, my big issue is the fact that the Lee Enfield rifles are all in Tier 3, yet the BREN II is in Tier 2. Yeah, logic went out the window with this fuckin' merge and I already miss the campaign system.
@MadMinuteMan yeah I miss separated campaigns already too. Like I specifically play Normandy and hope I get to play dday. But now with all the campaigns merged the chances of playing a certain map are even lower
@@J.Wolf90, it makes me laugh when content creators claim that this merge is vital for the sustainability and survivability of the game.
Yeah, well how in the hell can REMOVING a fuck load of content and making it unobtainable for new players be beneficial for the sustainability and survivability of the game??
The people who pushed for this merge have absolutely ruined the game. I'm seeing mass U.K offensives in Guadalcanal and Mass Italian counteroffensives in Berlin. What the fuck happened to this game, man.
I enjoyed this game because of the separate campaigns. I had been maining the Pacific Campaign as the Marines, now I'm getting into games against Germans using King Tigers. I don't like this and will most likely not be playing Enlisted anymore because of it.
Yup I agree I enjoyed picking where I wanted to play. Now it's a mad house of randomness.
The americans are so boring now, those desert maps where you just sit in a house the whole match "defending" it, i put quotations because if it wasnt for the afk kicking system, i could just put my controller down and still win.....i also used to avoid 1 of the factions due to 1 map that has the objective "cave house", that map is not optimal for my playstle as my soldiers would just commit suicide by throwing theirselves down those big holes
game lost most of historical vibe it had and now its just the most wacky fps out there
I agree. Fkn sucks now.
Some weapons can't be upgraded because they removed the squad to research the weapon upgrade itself😅
And the fact that you can purchase all the premium squad weapons but not the squads? That's off.
@@anothergermanmainyou get the squad, since there are no longer the large "campaign" level windows it just shows the gun but you can see the squad if click on: the premium gun and then there will be "Weaponry" and "Squad" buttons, if you click on the squad you will see the name of the said squad.
@@fandaeckert1915 you cannot purchase almost any of them, even ones that make no sense to have removed, like the legendary German tablecloth gang.
@@anothergermanmain I see them in the TT if you mean the sniper gewehr 41, they are the first premium squad at T4. But yes, a lot of them got removed
@@fandaeckert1915 for no realistic reason
I uninstalled the game after the merge. I really enjoyed the campaign system and progression. I also liked how vehicles and soldiers were locked to the theatre they actually fought in. Sad reality… I enjoyed the game a lot and it breaks my heart to see the merge turn everything upside down. Oh well time to go and try out he’ll let loose.
How did you get on with hell let loose? Personally I don’t think you can compare it with enlisted apart from there both ww2 games
@@user-kp6ll9jk7h In all honesty I haven’t tried HLL yet. I’ve been too busy playing helldivers
Yeah how have you liked HLL? I played for about a month when it came to Xbox game pass and it's so much fun but way way harder to grind. But for a free game enlisted is soooooooooo good and $45 for HLL is outrageous to me
I’m gonna be completely honest with the both of you. I hadn’t actually gotten around to playing HLL. I’ve actually been playing Helldivers and I’ve been hooked on it since.
My biggest issue is having to deal with each individual soldiers perks now. It just takes too long. I can't even will myself to do a single squad
I like how equipping just one(1) higher BR gun instantly changing your overall BR as if one shitty MP40 or M1 Garand will make you that much overpowered, lazy and rushed balancing design
Yes, this should by change to something more balanced and more closer to historical. Not even one piece of mp38 in ter I but is posible to take full 3 squad with 9 rifle granades each on tier II, this is bullshit now.
It actually took me around an hour to set up my squads and tier presets for just 2 nations and honestly I'm not playing soviets just cause I don't wanna go through that work again
I uninstalled. Too much of a mess. If they get rid of merge ill come back.
They had a great game going, I dont understand why they had to turn everything upside down, at least bring back the campaigns again
Yes yes yes
Yes
As someone who was struggling to level up i like the new level up system i still want the campaigns back
To appease the Premium players…
@@Hjaulmandra_Kanathara the thing is you are very right
BR 3 people are abusing the MM, quitting BR 4-5 battles and bullying in BR 1-2.
I think it could be better implemented as a +1/-1 MM instead of the way it is right now.
I use the Italian tier one ab 10 with the crew using level 4 smg uptiering it and bully level 4 players will people just quit complaining and learn the game
The only people you are bullying with your tier one tank at tier 4/5 is your own team mates by wasting a tank slot.
@@maineiacman nope it's litterly broke on some maps because it's not ment for it can you usually drive around in a factory with a vehicle and race around the map and cause disarray then be on another street in 2 seconds and getting out and destroying rally that you hear while driving it's like a half track with 20 mm Canon on it and 4 crew with smgs so I can cap zones two
as an allied tier 3 player, this is hell I have like 2 soldiers with m1 garands and i'm getting stomped by full fg-42 teams
Game isnt fun anymore. If you play allies, just turn the game off because its stomp city. This merger made the grind and battles worst.
The grind is much, much worse now for new players, since the campaign system let you play with multiple eras of hardware and get relatively fast unlocks for each of them to start off with, which was relatively fun and engaging. However, with the new system, if you want to play with any of the iconic weapons or vehicles of the war, your choices are hundreds of matches worth of grinding or crippling yourself by playing tier II or III without the ability to buy tier II or III soldiers for your squads for hundreds of matches.
I would guess that new player retention is going to fall pretty hard after these changes unless they massively reduce the grind.
T3 has to be put in it's own queues. Being T2 and having to fight T3 PzIVs/MP40s and M4A2s/Garands is nearly impossible.
Only issues I have at br 2 is that some matches have a spam load of airborne being dropped. Other than that, The Grant fighting against Japan tiny tanks is a bit of an issue, but one guy with a good bomb drop or that new Japan TD makes short work of them.
I stand by my comment in an earlier video in that not being able to choose a campaign sucks. I've never, ever had a problem with matches being populated by bots. If anything, the matchmaking became more stable before the merge. I hate to say it (as I loved the game) but I still see no reason to play now the freedom has been taken away. I am a very casual player that bought a premium account once, and several battle passes. For me, the merge has destroyed the game and any semblance of authenticity that it used to have
you don't know what stable matchmaking means. It means new players not ragequitting because they suck ass with bolties and get destroyed by a verteran with levelled gear and just assume it's because they bought levels. then the see the premiums and automatically think all the premuim guns are literally the hands of god himself. So they don't play. They don't take the time to realize that all that is BS. The merge stops this, to quite an extent, because it seperates the vets with stacked gear from the bots who don't know the game yet.
You hit the nail on the head in your last section of this video with the overall lack of polish.
Most of the other issues I can work through but the over "half baked" feeling of the game has really dragged me away from investing more time into the game, seeing it still very much be present with this new highly anticipated update feels so deflating. The game needs a Siege style "operation health" I kinda thought this was gonna be that but guess that's my bad
The merge is like tearing down an old, rotted house and building a nice new house. But now we need to paint it and make it look nice!
I don't like the merge due to the lack of variety of camos for each maps settings where I could use a lower tier Moscow or Stalingrad squad and get stuck in North Africa with white camo or vise versa, with a lack of late war allied tanks made to deal with Germany's big cats (plus the removal of British and Italian troops). I feel they could've added a preferred and unwanted map selector so if you wanted to play only Normandy maps you don't get "forced" to play other maps as well as generic camo for each map that fit's with each squads "style" so you don't look out of place in the green fields of Normandy wearing pacific, desert, or winter camo.
The good from my experience as a sort of veteran of Normandy.
None of those damn cards- No longer having 200 bronze gear cards but needing silver to purchase a pistol for my engineer or AT soldier who can't steal a 2nd weapon.
Dramatically expanding the map pool for factions- the USA gets pacific, Europe and Africa maps with shared progress between them, no longer losing access to upgrades because you decided to swap between pacific and Europe.
Improved research, letting me pick what I actually want to unlock- Before I was forced to unlock a bunch of random crap I never intended to use but now I can focus on the weapon types I want and which vehicle type I prefer.
The Bad:
Having to fill holes in tech trees- such as researching the boys AT rifle to unlock and buy the m1 bazooka
Still being locked to one vehicle on free accounts- this is worse because with the new faction vehicle balance is randomized, Japan has shit tanks but an airforce that out turns anything the USA can fly, requiring critical damage from the start or you may aswell bail out, while German tanks are solid enough to be a real threat and there airforce is more similar in maneuverability.
The main counter to the king tiger for the allies is the Pershing but as far as I know it first appeared in the battle of cologne so 1944/45ish so maybe the Ardennes will bring it but till then if you have aphe you can capola it or if your fast with a good gun flank it just hopefully you don’t get spotted. As far as tier 3 is it should only fight tier 2-4 because tier 5 curbs stomps it and it stomps tier 1
Edit: Do to it being irrelevant before in my opinion and I completely forgot about it until Admiral Starks mentioned it there is a save load out option for your troops. They have their own presets you can save so you don’t have to press 20 buttons just one after you create, save and then load
Just use plane lol
@@-_Hatred_-that too
Exactly what makes a game like this interesting is the Nations strengths and weaknesses, allies have better CAS planes while Germany has better ground vehicles. @@-_Hatred_-
Tier 1 is fun when you face other Tier 1/2 players. But the amount of time you face Tier 3 is downright stupid. Not to mention the complete disregard for vehicle balance; the M4A2 76 is the same BR as the TIGER TWO. It's also very weird that they put many BR 3 weapons into Tier 4 when there is plenty of room to put them into Tier 3.
the thing is tier 3 lacks good guns for just about every country. At least in the tree. The garand is sort of overrated, the M1A1 is alright, germany really doesn't have anything there, the Soviets only have the SVT 38, the PP box isn't special, and Japan is japan.
Darkflow has to appease the Snail with gifts of money one way or another, even if it means breaking the game so hard.
Great video quadro, the merge has a ton of positives added to the game, with some issues to iron out like my personal biggest issue being the presets. If they fixed presets, it would be perfect for me personally, it's the only thing holding me back from building up other tier lineups.
Just started playing 2 weeks ago, and I’m in awe of your skills with the Winchester and the Ppsh.
The merge has only 2 positive changes: grind and fewer bots. BUT. And this is a big but! As you said Quadro in the problem section. The whole game is too complicated now. I have been playing enlisted for 3 years. I also downloaded the test server before merge. When the game opened I said: WTF??? I immediately switched it off. I don't want to spend hours in squad management! Also removing campaigns???ffs! Now i stopped palying for a while because I am so mad. They could have improved the gameplay without these ridiculous shites. Overall I am really disappointed...in my opinion enlisted can be one of the "good" examples how to completely ruin a game and get rid of veteran players!
The main issue keeping Enlisted from drastically growing are american players booting the game up, playing American Normandy, and getting absolutely shredded by StG vets, and thinking that the whole game is then p2w, not taking the time to play the actually fun campaigns, and never learning their guns, hence never being able to counter veterans, and they ragequit the game and shit on it everywhere they see it. The only solution is matchmaking changes to keep god-tier vets out of noob matches. And the merge did that.
The reason why so many people say the grind is worse is because they have to go back and unlock all those tanks and stuff they never unlocked and didn't want to, and they increased the prices to get them so you have to get more expensive bad tanks to get that one tank you want at the end of the line, in addition to all the other lines if you want to get something specific in, and matchmaking is not in that great of a ple right now due to T3 players in Shermans quitting all high matches till they get a downteired match where nothing can front pen them, in addition to the flamethrower and GL spam they also carry
I really hope your videos are watched by the devs. You sum up our ideas in one video and make very good points.
I can't stand not being able to pick the maps i play. The merge has been a failure for me
100 % I hate it
I think you covered everything mostly. Tier battles are a fantastic addition. Not sure how adding different tier weapons work, I need to experiment.
I also enjoy Low-Tier games more now. I think the low tier profited most from the merge. And finding matches fast is so nice. Of course People scream now that high tier is toxic, but i guess that's what you need to prepare for, when you play agains lots of players with high tier gear. And I don't think that Vitality is such a strong perk, imo it's actually pretty overrated. I don't use it at all, i go for the 50% down chance on fatal shots, 75% medpack usage and 200% regained health, it's like a second life, and I'd rather take 2x14 HP instead of just 16 HP
I think the extra vitality really shines in low tier games. Especially soldiers the the BSA Welgun paratroopers with an extra 16% on top of the 35% you can add. The extra health really throws off damage models of the early smgs, making you tank several extra bullets at medium range.
But for high tier I really like your perk setup
Low tier, vitality. Chance of fatal shots for high tier where any weapon deletes you in a one-shot or double-tap anyway. the problem with 200% healing is that in order to max it out, you need med kits, therefore giving up the ammo pouch or grenade pouch which are more useful. In any case, i like your setup, which now makes more sense than it used to.
@@darthioan One Medkit restores all Health with the 200% perk. I don't have Backpacks on my soldiers, only the Tankers so they can have 2 Medkits and 2 Repair kits.
About vitality, what would you reckon should be done ? Something along the line of increasing health a bit only with stagger reduction from being shoot/explosion to compensate ?
I do like the merge for the gear a little but I really how you can't no longer pick which front you want to fight in if you play as the Americans or Germans. I mostly played the stalingrad and Normandy front and so far for the Americans I been stuck playing the Africa front and the pacific front. One of the maps for the pacific is buggy that I had to leave due to not being able to see. Plus there isn't a need to grind anymore for me.
Some work must be made on the UI so inventory management is not so bad.
I stopped using perks until this merge because I didn't want to pay to re-spec them all. Now that I've specced them, the game feels different.
Two steps forward, one step back it seems....
My main gripe is that I have to go as far back as to tiers 1 and 2 and unlock that stuff so I can move forward for example to get Panther A I need to go back and get panzer 3 B and everything in between that I don't have
Yes! Definitely a huge issue
As someone who quit because of the high tier full auto spam in matches while i had maybe just unlocked a slightly better bolt action, i heavily appreciate the merge.
New player - just started after the merge… I understand how the perk system works, but I can’t find any guides explaining how to rank up soldiers from rank 1 to 2 and so on. How does this work now that the academy and the training buttons are no longer in use? I see that the ranks start higher in the squads that you get in the higher tiers; can you still rank up the individual soldiers after getting the squads? Any help would be greatly appreciated & I’ll subscribe.
You have to go the squad upgrades and unlock the higher ranks (it’s the red menu called soldier upgrades). You gain experience in battle so I recommend playing as the soldier you want to level up so he gets exp faster
I think a CZcamsr called Paradivision has a tutorial for squads so you might want to check there for a better explanation. Of course they might change everything again anyways so this might all be pointless haha
Back in my day I had to deal with tiger tank hiding in the hill destroying us from the spawn point at normandy and i only just started but I still got to late game wth out paying a cent.
Definitely agree about tier 3s shouldn't go against tier 5s, went againt tigers because I used a couple svt 38s lol. Also some stuff doesn't seem to be in the right spots. There are a few weapons and vehicles that are tier 3 but are in the tier 4 section of the research tree for some reason
the biggest upside (or overlook if you remember it's gaijin/darkflow) of the current system is that you earn same research xp regardless of your Tier and what you research unlike warthunder, so you can actually choose the lineup you feel comfortable with instead of powering through top tier cause it would earn you the most. Use it while you can and have some relaxing games.
So for the more grind, it depends on viewpoint, did only one? It is roughly around 2x compared to before
Hey quadro , tks for everything 👍,,my main issue with merge is that ,as i progressed in the old enlisted i felt i was getting better and rockin it , now its like im playin against best players in the world every match , no matter the br , gettin slaughtered everygame gets boring real fast ,, im not a great player but i used to finish top 3 all the time , now im lucky if im top 5 , no more bonus exp for average players means the grind fells a lot worse ,,,trying not to quit,tks for ur time 😎
I got a fat stack of gold for the full access slots I was supposed to get post merge but didn't so I got a day of premium and got 40k for a 3rd place game. So that was chillin. I also got a free premium squad and 2 squad slots with my gold.
I know its a wierd request but id love to hear more of your takes on games from a producers prospective.
Owning the garand has made my gameplay experience unbearable with the high tier players because the garand is in tier 4 and i was so unprepared for it.
12:46 is so accurate. It took me about 2 hours just to set up my squads for BR 1, and I did it pretty carelessly.
The grind for the Lee Enfield sniper either has an issue or I don’t know what I’m doing, but I bought all the weapons up to that point and that tear is still locked. Same for the infield number three if they would have a way around it or knows it’s going on since I don’t get to play too often I am confused lol
Question. How do I play on the Pacific maps as the Americans?
after the merge, now playing as the Americans, the only maps that keep popping up are Normandy maps. Not for nothing I’m already starting to miss just having the option to just click what campaign I wanted to play.
BR3 and lower i think, but this BR system is garbage. Been stuck in normandy and its not fun.
@@mrsanatra1 agree. Thanks.
don't play high tier
not enough people play Japan to have enough folks at tier 4, so you're not going to be seeing any high tier Pacific matches. about half of US low tier is pacific though.
I suppose the grind to properly equip a full loadout of squads with optimal gear is a gindfest, not necessarily unlocking new things in the tech tree. Personally I find grinding the squads levels to be more important at the moment because I like the low br stuff but most of my available squads aren't leveled up. Honestly, just having enough tnt packs and tnt charges to equip every soldier is a pretty silver but almost necessary to have a better time while playing. Need tnt either as a nade or mine just to deal with the shear amount of armor being driven right in front of you.
use explosion packs and Anti personnel mines. EPs are great for low tier tanks, and you need AP mines for free kills of enemy rallies. Give every single soldier both of these items. Guns are entirely your choice, but EP and AP is undeniably the best option for versaility and effectivity
Great summary. I wanted to note on two things: 1) presets and 2) map choice/tier 3
1) the presets can be infuriating however, that’s where our 100+ squads come into play. Now you’ll have to set aside HOURS to do this, but it’s beneficial in the long run. For example, I dedicated the OG Axis Assaulter 1 from Moscow as my tier 2 assaulters always. My tier 4 assaulters from Berlin are my tier4-5 preset. I keep the soldiers equipped with their primary weapons/equipment. It’s not an issue because they condensed multiple campaigns and we all have a ridiculous amount of extra weapons. That’s my work around at the moment.
2) tier 3 is nightmare fuel for adrenaline junkies. . I found myself wanting to play early war axis in Moscow, only to wind up in Tunisia against flame throwers and M1 Garand spam. I wish there was a rotation for early war maps because I miss Moscow terribly. Just my thoughts.
Since the surprisingly removed engineer assault rifles altogether (which is a good choice, but still surprising) I just had a FAT stack of mkbs in my inventory
Darkflow has proven themselves to have a good track record of fixing these sorts of issues as new updates roll out, I myself have no qualms that they will continue on fixing the game at a steady pace. Insane squad numbers aside, the new tier system is an excellent addition to the game in terms of gameplay and longevity. I see the issues as something inevitable that comes with such large updates in any game.
The grind is a bit hectic. Can’t even research multiple. Also regarding matchmaking waiting times. I started a month ago and always had people and never waited long
I didn't even know that merge happened, I just decided to play on the day that it came out by accident :) Seems good for free grind, I even bought premium for a week. Never did that before XD.
my problem, how i cant found any information about, what maps can go on that tier. needed to recognize
and also for the macthmakeing
when i and my friend want to go low tier, changes ur equipment only i bring a tier3 tank(kv-1)
the enemy use mp43 and fg 42 and we with mosin
my oponion, how the best solution for t3, how t3 players only against t3 players.
-Low tier is not back atm, you still have a posibility to face tier 5 as it stands right now. Many complains about this already.
-the grind is worse for veteran players who only played one campaign. Like i was researching the MG-15, but i couldn't unlock because i was missing the ZB-26 from the mg line. The line cannot have any gaps in them. And that is the part why it is worse
-terms of variety, i've been keeping track post merge of what campaigns i get each tier (for Germany) there is like 2 or 3 matches difference in each campaign per tier, so it is nicely balanced. Haven't seen Moscow or Tunisia yet in tier 4/5
-perks are good, but it's a lot of micromanagement atm. Which is really annoying.
-with Ardennes offensive coming soon, and devs stating that ''fun toys'' may be coming with it, i may assume we do get a m26 pershing with it. Even though the pershing
-squads should work with free customization as you mentioned, and also the ability to buy extra squads if you desire to do so using silver. If you want 100 assaulter squads, you can do that. But you can't bring them all to battle at once ofcourse.
getting uptiered when youre in tier 2 is a bug, and it's one I haven't run into personally. I assume it will be fixed.
The dumb research tree thing youre talking about is awful and I thought it was a bug when I was making this video. I've given the feedback to Helpers regarding it but not much we can do other than that. The grind I'm referencing in the video is about total time invested which is absolutely down
The whole bug thingy should be fixed. I play berlin and don't have the armaguerra 39 but I'm researching the FG II
@@anothergermanmainCan you buy new FG42's though? From what I know you can research but can't buy
@@HeyQuadro not sure. As far as I can remember i didn't buy any high tier german guns, just ammo pouches land mines and VZ 24s for my low tiers. though I did also buy FNAB 43s for low tier, and that is past the OVP I'm pretty sure, so even though I might be wrong I think they dealt with that
And one more note: customs should be cheaper, but not free. I think we all know how games would look if customs were all free. The look of soldiers in battle is the think enlisted wants to keep accurate, and with everyone, and I mean everyone, running the memiest stuff on their guys would be horrible
A massive problem in the merge I have is the lack of thought put behind how the game should handle the British and Italians. As it stands, both have been stripped of atleast half their pre-existing squads in addition to their nation specific soldiers being unavailable to buy. I find this extremely disappointing as this means a new player will no have be able to unlock a full line up of British or Italian squads which is just completely baffling to me.
Another issue I've spotted is with theatre camoflauge. For example, I equipped my British assualter squad with with unique Normandy camo only to see that for some reason would use that in Tunisia maps when they already have a Tunisia preset. This is extremely frustrating and immersion breaking for me and is only worse for tanks since Darkflow didn't give vehicles campaign specific camo presets.
Very frustrating and honestly amateur on Darkflow's part.
if your uniforms on your troops are available to use in other campaigns, it is used in those campaigns. The devs did this to save you appearance orders. And if you couldn't notice, camo is kinda useless in this game. It doesn't matter what youre wearing you're visible. Don't even mention the complete lack of snow on the maps. But yeah as of now, and since the start of the game really, camo has not done you any favors. So don't get too hellbent on it.
That Eminem thing was WAAAYYY to true, I literally made that face the other day playing enlisted because of a tiger 2
Ever since the last 2 updates after the merge I have trouble logging in and if I get into a game it sometimes goes to the map screen ....... with no choice of squads, then says refused and kicks me out ??? Then it deducts a point from my Ranking ?
Yesterday's update made things even worse!!! I went from a 4star general to a no rank ....... and my battle pass wasn't even showing up !!!
Also same problem with my son's battle pass that has his own account on a different Xbox series x !!! Rrrh
Tbh, I fully agree on the Tier III and V, and the squad stuff.
Regarding the first, I feel like the really strong Soviet and Germany weapons and vehicles (Stg, Tiger II, IS2, As45) should have it's own tier. Which makes more sense now that Ardennes is coming. How I feel it should be in this case:
- First: This mention equipment change to Tier VI, and you add to the game Tier VI unlocks for Allies too.
- Second, Change queues for Tier: Tier III can only face Tier II or IV, while Tier IV-V-VI go all in the same pool. This way you get:
Tier I-II in same pool, Tier II-III, Tier III-IV, and IV-V., and V-VI.
Even though it would technically “split” the player base, I think the experience overall would be more satisfying and more “balanced”.
With Squads, I don’t really mind them in first place. Being a F2P player with only 4 slots makes no difference at all in terms of loadouts and squad compositions. So I see no problems with having 50+ squads.
On the other hand, getting rid of 90% of squads would make everything more simple, I feel like I would be lacking the “badges” and how they are related to sub factions. If I unlocked the 101st squad in old Enlisted, or any squad that I only use because I like the symbol, why would I have to pay to get smth I already unlocked?
I think that Enlisted is in the right way overall. I love playing against actual players and not bots, and I believe that with some changes, it can be a great game.
Nice video Quadro, hope to catch you in stream soon!
Since the update I have not been able to land a single map that I have wanted to play yet. I have dumbed down my marines teams to BR 2 and BR 3 and have not landed a round of Japan Theatre.. I have been uptiered several time to Normandy/French Maps...my bolt action Marines and M8 Scott get massacred by Jaeger Troops and paratroops with FG 42s, MG 34 and 42s and Tiger Tanks. The whole system was reset for all my units also...I dont have many hours in the day to play also...spent most of my time reorganizing and rebuying weapons I had already unlocked. Also the grind has gotten worse when you constantly loose matches and get slaughtered.
To me it is the opposite, Every time i play with axis i get massacred because i based my whole tech tree against Normandy, suddenly i am thrown against Russia's PPSH's and AS-22's, Impossible to even make it to top 5
@@picollojr9009 what the hell's an AS-22? And the Soviet tech tree is severely more lacking than the American one. The only thing they've got are AS-44s. A good ppsh player vs a good StG player at any remotely long distance goes to the StG every time. Don't even get me started on Tiger II vs IS2. If you can beat America, there's 0 excuse for struggling against the Soviets
Idk why but for some reason I would have tier 1-2 load outs (USA )and somehow end up fighting in tier 5. My entire team who has tier 2 load outs would get curbed stomped by Germans with tiger 2’s and more
Tier 3 solution should be easy, by taking a page out of every other games matchmaking system: 1 tier matchmaking spread: tier 3 can either face t2 or t4. They can't clap on t1 or get demolished by t5
no no we cant do that. Its way too obvious and easy, we must make things as difficult as possible here at Darkflow!
@@HeyQuadro lol
What server do you play in?
According to the datamined measurements, there were around 40% bots before the merge, now there are 20%. It's not really a difference that would show much in gameplay, just the power consumption of Darkflow's servers is reduced now. Btw, We will always play with bots because there are bots in our squad in the first place, and their behaviour is unaffected by the merge - they will still let the enemy kill them off one by one while looking at it happening. The most positive thing about the merge is that in Normandy, which I've always loved, I can roflstomp the Americans without any punishment with a Tiger II - DF even removed the 12 rocket version of A-20 to help me do this with less CAS burden.
Or the foolish idiots repeatedly spawn their panzer IV Js and push a greyzone-camping Jumbo repeatedly, preventing you from doing anything. Tanks are horrible postmerge, as the tank spammers now plague every game you're in.
It does show alot
Loved the moscow campaign and it's maps.
Now playing the soviets is just boring city map after boring city map after boring city map.
Also loved the Tunesia campaign, too bad I never get to see those maps in my queue anymore.
Low tier allies is nonstop Tunisia and Pacific, you can still play them just have to change queues
When I play low tier allies I only seem to get the pacific maps.
half of my games are on stalingrad even though i’m playing battle rating 5
but i do like playing br 2 with puma :)
also imo the ussr tech tree shouldn’t get panzerfaust, it doesn’t really make sense. especially because they don’t have any lend lease bazooka’s at all.
I queue up my mp40 squad ang gehwer with rank 5 and ive been seeing a toss of impact grenades and flamethrower. It is not really annoying to me as it is normal if you are against the amaricans. I think the problem with the update is that most people unlock the for example mg42 and wants to play the mg42 even though they have only kar98k and mp40s and just join a rank 4 match and immediately dies due to people having better weapons and them not knowing how to shoot. Another is that tanks are just sticking to the back and just shooting into the cap zone and they have no way to kill it. The last thing is that you only get afew maps, i dont really see any other maps other than Stalingrad maps. Gaijin needs to fix this very fast
The overcomplicated sutff that is now in the Enlisted UI wil ldefinetly scare some new players, and also old players. The user experience is to convoluted, the merge may be good for the meta and for the gameplay, but the UI is too much and is gonna backfire
i dont know if anyone else has noticed this but so far ive been doing japan and i never payed any attention to the pacific war campaign so im using entirely tier 1 weapons and ive seen several times tier 4 weapons appear for the americans and probably tier 5 weapons which i didnt notice its almost as if japan has matchmaking but america doesnt so ive had several games where ive been completely stomped by garands and thompsons
both the M1A1 and the garand are BR III
because neither of them are really all that great.
@@anothergermanmain huh I could've sworn they were BR IV
@@buisnessbandit the thompson I'm pretty sure shows as and is 3, and the Garand is tier 4 but BR III
my biggest question is, how will this effect queing with friends? if i play with one of my buddies who just picked up the game or didnt play much before the merge and im still using my highest tier equipment, will they get dragged into my high tier lobbies and just get curbstomped, or will i get pushed down into their lobbies and drag some noobs through the dirt? would it be best to make sure people queing up together are using the same tier of equipment to prevent this? or maybe find a middle ground, i.e, my friend is tier 2, im tier 4, it puts us into a tier 3? would love some insight into this
whoever has the highest equipment will drag everyone else up. Youll have to queue down
@@HeyQuadro ah damn, hopefully they come up with a better system for that soon
this would let people explot the matchmaking to play lower tiers with top tier gear. You get the highest tier. Make low tier loadouts for playing with your friend. Trust, low tier is fun
make a V, III and II for every nation. Use your squad presets for it. It's worth it. Tired of American mains greyzone camping jumbos and meat-riding any gun produced by Browning? Play some low tier. Want something more fast paced? go back to high tier. And your grind is unaffected, because you get full xp no matter what BR you use
Before the merge, I played Moscow and Tunisia, few games to relax. Now I only get Stalingrad and Berlin, which feels like being a fish out of water.
High tier Sovs only get Stalingrad and Berlin
I really miss my Moscow maps man. I never get them because I get up tiered and if I do, it’s one out of five maps. I wish the devs would listen to us.
When was the game? I see my name at the bottom. Must been a long time ago because I don’t remember it
So i dont play soviet much as i only play pacific theatre and its so bizarre to see my enemy and my fellow teammates running in full winter gear around the berlin, its like spotting yeti in the garden
it's a glitch. I think it's just the AI that for some reason always have moscow uniforms
it only sucks more for f2p lol, they lowered the amount of currency you earn per game and upped how much everything costs. to say that the grind got easier is stupid. you're at max level in every campaign. you're not tier 3 with 2000 silver to spare. upgrading down the path you want is basically the only silver lining
sell unused soldiers and disband any squad you both don't want to use and CAN disband. I only have 2 countries near finished, and I not only have a 2nd account that's brand new, but also play all four on my main. The grind is much easier.
@@anothergermanmain that's crazy, directly after I wrote that comment a month ago I started stabbing myself in the neck while screaming, "BEELZEBUB" because I realized how wrong I was, but I decided to keep the comment up anyways because god hates me and I am a pile of refuse and sin 👍
It would be awesome to have some slots for different squad tiers. I mean, you can have your 4 squads that are high tier, but then you can also change to another bunch of other four squads that are low tier or simply another bunch of different squads. So you don't have to manually change all your squads to change tier.
That's called squad presets pal
Oh, sorry, english isn't my main language. Is there already a way to do this?@@anothergermanmain
@@rodrigoenmanuelfermanmoral1881 when you click on the button to change your squad setup click on squad presets and you'll have a number of slots to have different setups saved for you
I’m still having fun and that’s all that matters for me. I believe the devs will tweak and change some thing around once they have real world data from all the players. Adding new maps would help a lot too.
Are you a full Axis player?
@@crazyonmyblock5956 nope I’m a play everything player. Have it all unlocked. And US T5 is not even that bad.
@@legiox3719 Oh, really? say no more.
@@crazyonmyblock5956 any gun produced by browning by friend. If it's Browning, you'll never see the end of the spam
good vid. still not happy with the way the merge has been implemented but I do see the potential, really enjoy the low tier maps and refound love of the Italian rifles. The pay to win aspect of the game is more obvious with the merge by the looks of it but nothing experienced players can't handle.
how do you throw grenades and explosive packs back?
Going against their 5 while in only at tier 3 is painful especially German tanks where I can’t even damage them
Having played Soviets a fair bit after the merge I feel like they could very easily stretch the 5 tiers into 6 and avoid the downrank/uprank system altogether. Using Soviet assaulter weapons as an example the PPD at T1, the PPS-42 should be T2 and PPS-43 and PPSh-41 (Box) should be T3, T4-5 should be populated by their drum magazine equivalents, then T6 should be assault rifles. Maybe I'm crazy, I don't know.
enlisted needs to make tiered guns based less on mag size alone. There are so many guns that are entirely placed because of a mag. Look at the Berretta M38. T1 to T4 just because of the magazine. If that's not BS idk what is
I am a tier V with the flammingo :)). Its funny with my devil head on the front low, the last thing you see before the fire.
You said grind got "better", after you explained it. I'd have used "easier" word right there. Not sure is that really better, because progress is quite much faster now. Higher dopamine levels yes, but will it all end too early? What about once you have done it all?
Tbh they could fix most of the tier3 problems by doing one of two things. Tier 3 being its own thing, which, personally I think is the worse option. They could also adjust how the match making goes to be a match of just 2 neighbor tiers. 1 and 2, 2 and 3, 3 and 4, 4 and 5. I think this would balance out most of the tier 3 problems while also not just damning tier 3 to itself.
I prefer the new system. Never really cared that all my effort could only be used in one campaign. I played Normandy way too long because I wanted a Sherman unlocked. Consequently, I never actually played anything else because even if I did get my Sherman, I couldn’t use it in the pacific.
The new system is better in my opinion. The only change I would make is rename “USA” to “Allies” - I’m a proud American sure but I know my British and Canadian friends wouldn’t want be listed under USA as I wouldn’t want to be listed under “Crown Commonwealth”.
Another issue I didnt see you touch on is that it feels like the income for silver is way too low or there's just too much crap you HAVE to buy now. Currently when you finish research you HAVE to buy that item to continue the tree. So not only do you have to research, you have to then BUY the item, making it a further wall for progression. Im buying so many unnecessary items and wasting silver when I just want something further up the chain. This is something else that fucks veteran players since I have to grind and buy EVERY tank from Tunisia in order to finally get my damn M4A1 76. My tech tree for Germany is even worse and Im already broke from buying squads and items I dont fucking want. This also hurts my odds of making multiple presets or gearing properly for my tier.
It's hard to make a judgement about the silver economy right now since its so new (and also I have like 2.5 million silver so I'm personally very detached). I'm going to be doing my Free To Play account soon to see how it feels
find every squad you don't use and disband them if you can. You can get rich off this. And sell EVERY soldier you don't want to use. I've gotten about 2 mil from selling stuff at different times.
I only had 100k at merge (I went broke after getting full access for Stalingrad and buying all these new guns for Germany and Sovs)
The biggest problem I have had is matchmaking, I have just got the game and have 5 hours on it, and I get matched up against tiger II s all of the time and it really annoys me (I figured out that I have ONE engineer squad where there is one Lee enfield, so I am getting up tiered when I am Still using the 1903 Springfield)
There's a lot of things that needs to be fix on Enlisted like Fps I went from 40+ to down to 20 fps and everything else is alright but wish was accurate with the Normandy naval arrival that would've been sick.
I don't understand the 'tier system' I am new to the game and am in tier 1, I haven't unlocked anything in tier 2 let alone equipped anything outside tier 1 and I have run into matches where people have tier 4 or 5 weapons in them.
for example just today I had a match where a guy was running around with an M1 Garand which of course meant we were tearing through the enemy like wheat chaff but it stuck out to me so much that I looked and the first Garand I see in the tech tree is tier 4.
so are they seriously putting what amounts to WWI weapons against WWII weapons?
i have a video that goes more in depth, but the general idea is that theres two groups: BR 1-3 and BR 3-5. BR 3 and go up or down. The M1 Garand is BR 3, so thats why you could see it.
We'll see if they change it or not
I admit that playing tier 5 as an axis is quite chaotic, to be honest using my tiger 2 p, and I ended up dominating games, since since the Americans do not have a tank that can against the tiger 2, I end up frustrating the other team and they stop playing. use tanks. Another problem that I see is that many Alido and Russian players do not have equipment similar to tier 4-5, since I have played games with Russians with svt 38 when I have an mp/43, fg 2 II etc., no. I complain that now I have maps of Stalingrad, although it is slightly strange to use a tiger 2, but currently it is chaos, added to the fact that people who focused on only one campaign have bad synergy with their companions, this It's because I had a game in which a player had ppsh41 but a t 34 from Moscow, so my team won without problems, I rarely look at an is 2 or sherman 76w, since I don't think many veterans play tier 5 or 4
Imo allies get a lot of the ”good stuff” at tier III and even before the merge BAR/M1 Garand/Thommy guns were competetive guns and you could get a lot of kills with them. So with the new merge I don’t really mind uptiers too much, only problem I have is the lack of counter play to gray zone tiger II. Sure the allies get m9 bazooka with ~ 100mm pen, but you will need a clean side shot for the kill and Tiger II players are going to chill out from your reach 90% of the time.
When you are the top dog at tier 3 gun balance against low tiers is kinda grazy too. I had one Pacific match where Japanise had no real counter for my M4 Sherman 😂.
Best thing about tier 3 is variety, which is a nice quality to have. Sadly mm will most likely throw you into Normandy.
But it is still miles better to mm at tier 3 where you have chance to play other campaings than Normandy. Tier 4&5 mm will 100% throw you into Tiger II matches where you have lighty armored 76mm sherman that needs clean side shot to kill a Tiger II.
I do like the Merge, the only problem I have with it is having British tanks in the Pacific War? I know British, Australian, and Commonwealth soldiers served in the Pacific war during WWII but they served in the China-Burma-India Theatre. They need to make factions for the British and Italians
Maybe but then every faction will have very few weapons in RsrchTree
Also i feel like the devs can't fill the thousands of requests the playerbase is asking for
The issue with "gaps in the Tech Tree" isn't just for veterans, but for all players. The """Tech Tree""" is actually a glorified line, for example:
Imagine you grind until Tier 4, haven't touched the "heavy weapons" branch, and now want to play with Flamethrowers. Too bad, grind the AT weapons and mortars from Tiers 1-3 first! It is ridiculous and defeats the purpose of a tech tree. Once you hit a Tier you should be free to unlock anything there regardless of previous research, period.
Agree on the squad thing, we shouldn't have to "sell our squads" (nobody would do that, specially with the current issue with squad loadout presets since you need several squads to not have to manually swap everything), we should've got the squad/soldier/weapons upgrades translated to the new squads, all squads emptied, and all old squads deleted by default.
Also as other said, we need either +1 matchmaking (on the long term) or a BR2-3-4 just so BRs 3 and 4 are worth playing (BR1 will always be handicapped), currently the only viable BRs are 2 and 5. This would also help reduce historical inaccuracies a bit.
They also need to reapply the squad type limit, at least to 2, but better if it's to 1.
Finally, the merge shouldn't have come out with the QoL features for managing squads, I've lost all this time managing squads and haven't played yet, losing days for the Event. We need both the button to disarm everyone, another button to empty squads, and better preset functionality (saving not only squads but also equipment, allowing you to have the same squad on 2 different loadouts and quickly switch with a click).
Edit: forgot to mention, new perk system was implemented badly, because they gave no free refund and we now have to individually go over each soldier swapping stuff, which is yet another huge waste of time.
13:28 Genuinely getting to just actually switch over from the 66th Armored Regiment to the 32nd Armored Regiment squad for my BP In the Mood 76 Sherman that's from 32nd AR would be nice. Apparently you can't use the tank from the 32nd AR, that literally has '3△32△' on the front of the hull, with the 32nd AR squad because it's fucking locked to the Jumbo.
As a f2p player I hate having to choose between planes or tanks, before I even know what level I'm on, pretty sure no other game does this..
Not merge specific I know, but I was hoping they would change this..
I prefer APCs. More versatile and much more worth my time, being an infantry player. And for how stupid enlsted players are, you can never get enough spawns.
Make it so that tier 1 can meet no higher than tier 2, tier 2 can either go up or down one tier and meet max tier 3, tier 3 can go up or down 1 tier and same with 4 and 5 etc.
I really liked the old versión where you could choose maps and that but to level up it was like too much time and the new investigation tree is more Quick but they could at least Put the map choosing again because now if you want to play in some maps or Campaigns like normandy the map selection is random and that is really annoying.