X-Pro Templar 250 M: Unboxing, Assembly, and Initial Thoughts
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- X-Pro Templar 250 M: Unboxing, Assembly, and Initial thoughts
Zongshen CB250F(ZS172FMM) 249.9cc, 4 stroke
Where to purchase:
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Assembly Instructional Video below ⬇️:
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Thanks for the video! Have been looking at the M and this is the first good video about it. You eased my mind about possibly buying this one 👍
You’re welcome! I wanted others to see what the M is all about. It’s really not a bad bike. I’m still breaking it in but you could definitely change the rear sprocket to something that suits on and off road. I would get the X if you’re planning to do any Highway riding. First gear is slow, like a crawling gear - would be good for very technical riding where slow speeds are ideal. Otherwise 2 and 3 will be the woods riding gears. Comfortably this bike could cruise 35-40mph all day. 60 would be maxed out with current gearing.
@@SteelCityRiderz awesome, thanks. I will keep watching for any future videos from you👍
@@Lilolemecpyou’re welcome! And thank you. I plan to post more 👍
How’s the suspension?? Adjustable? Lookin to get one. I was waiting for this model to be reviewed. No really good content on this one. Hoping the registration thing works out because I want to do the same thing … Thank you so much. !!
I am the proud owner of a Templar X some caveats: licensing make sure that when you get your MCO that it says motorcycle not off-road dirtbike this has been a constant struggle to get mine licensed. Insurance they would only do liability on the Chinese motorcycle. Nibbi carburetor put this on before you even start the motor cycle buy good American made stainless steel hose clamps and fuel line put your fuel line on the carburetor before you ever attempt to mount it it will save you a ton of time because the space is tight. Nibi makes an ignition I would swap out the original and use a NGK iridium spark plug chances are you’ll never ever have to change it. If you plan on changing your sprocket once again do this before you even start the bike I would recommend a high-quality chain with a rivet master link. As stated in the video Loctite Loctite Loctite. Drain the oil high-quality synthetic. Take your time break in the motorcycle engine slowly. Remember your tempering the steel. Just some suggestions.
Have the six speed version. So far I'm impressed. Seems like plenty of low end grunt. Hard to beat the price.
It is impressive for the cost! Agree that it has low end grunt. More than I thought it was going to have. How do you like the 6 speed?
If for some reason you wanted another one with more power, you should look at the SSR 300
Good tip! This isn’t bad by any means. But great recommendation. One that I considered before this 👍
@@cgt9249 they also have a ssr250 and ssr450 version
Been off of bikes for 20 years. I went with the Apollo Thunder 250 last year and its not bad for the trails behind my house.
i have the x version of this and really like it Put a nibbi 30mm on it and 42 tooth sprocket and it is perfect . I sold my honda crf300l about a year ago for a street bike but really wanted a cheaper dual sport and this bike hit the spot for me . I can cruse at 60mph and be at a safe rpm . Also i feel the suspension is better than what was on the 300l . im 6.4 215ish and it fits me great . my only issue i had with it was they didn't put the exhaust crush gasket on , it was actually at the bottom of the crate . I got 400 miles and running as any 250cc air cooled bike should run. Nice video btw.
Curious about the exhaust crush gasket issue. That's not cool of them. What model year have? Around what month and year did you receive? We also have a 2023 Templar X.
The PE30 from nibbi will fit the M. I run a 130 main and a 40 pilot. Definitely a improvement
If anyone looking for the 6-speed Templar X gets a CLEAR ANSWER of yes/no and when they will be restocking this model from calling them. Please post info. We could not get a clear answer if they would be restocking this model when we called last week.
I want an answer also about what's going on with the templar x. Was going to order one about a month ago then had to wait a couple weeks now can't find them.
Same boat. No clear answer but fingers crossed.
They’re back.
Where? X-Pro does not have them in stock. Neither does Amazon.@@justinmarquez7780
I bought one today from xpro website
Am still in the procrastinating stage. Yes I want the small short stroke of the 250 cc and yes I do not want a radiator on it cause I do not stick to trails (used to be a trials rider) . Yes I want the 6 speed.
The XR650l is great for adv riding but not for the back deep woods rides.
Do post you 3 mo's and 6 mo's riding thru the summer mo's
Be looking for you post
Will get something posted soon! Looking forward to uploading more videos. Thanks for the comments and view. I appreciate it 🙏
6ft 220lbs would this haul me around? also live in PA hows the process getting it road legal. Im thinking about getting the X not the M.
I heard the templar m and the x is the same. Do you know if its true other than the six speed and no kick start?
@@user-om8tm3sq7j all I know is that the X is more higher and has adjustable suspension
Great video. Ty for taking the time to film the bike and giving your thoughts. I look forward to more videos. Are you thinking about changing the front or rear gears? I hope to get the same bike in a couple months. Be safe!!
Thank you! And you’re welcome. The goal was to help others decide if this is a bike for them. Certainly will upload more videos of the bike soon. The weather in PA is getting warmer.
I’m thinking of changing just the rear sprocket to start. Would like to see a little more out of first gear. 1st would be great for anything very technical as is.
@@SteelCityRiderz I live in northeast PA. the weather is beautiful today and supposed to be all week.
I talked to a guy on here and he has an M. He put a 15 in the front and a 38 in the rear and he says it’s perfect! He has some videos on here also.
@@Coco-Crisp25 Good deal! I’m in SW PA. Happy to see we have warmer temps this week. I’m getting anxious to ride lol.
That’s good news to hear. Do you happen to know what his channel name is?
I'd rather steel frame(s) , they can be readily repaired. Use to race and yep bent a few from time to time to the point of cutting out the problem and welding in replacement(s) ..... Free lancing thru the woods (no trails) there is no radiator to poke holes through . Light weight and short in tight woods means great handling with the short stroke of a 250,. If there was a licensable trials bike to be had, I would have that but, they don't so the shortie is close enough .
Just, so you know to change oil bit more freq then before, they'll last a long time when ridden with sense, rock on ..
Does the bike still run good, and if so how many miles have you put on it? I’m thinking about possibly getting one of these
That hole in the side of the box looked like it was made by the tine of a fork lift... , and an operator with a "Screw it, it ain't mine" attitude.
Haha so true!
Rejet the carb an ditch the catalytic convert on it, you'll get a large dump in performance. (Low end grunt)
Also might want to check the valve clearance. Mine was off from the factory.
1000% yes on the carburetor rejet and header. I can tell this is very restricted overall. Seems like the stock carb can work just fine with new jetting. Lots of potential here.
Great thoughts on checking valve clearances too. Easy job and worth the effort. Appreciate your feedback and comments!
@SteelCityRiderz anytime buddy! I've been working on mine to do some hard Enduro an single track.
The nibbi 30 is a pretty solid peice, I'm running a 140 main an 42 pilot at sea level.
Also swapping over to some plush 5wt fork oil is a good move 👌
How did you go about the scrapping the catalytic? Cut exhaust at cat, then punch everything out, then re-weld? Like to know how to do. Assuming you meant to say a large "jump" in performance. Yes/No?
How often should you change the oil when breaking it in
And what oil would you recommend?
Well, there are going to be a lot of people who have different opinions on this lol. Including the brand of oil and which is the best brand of oil.
I’ll say that religious oil changes are always a good thing. So it depends on a number of factors like how hard you ride, how often, the environment you ride in, and the number of hours/miles you put on. I always change my oil every 15-20 hours of riding. Most will tell you that’s overkill for this bike. However, I’ll say this…frequent oil changes never hurt…No matter the hours or mileage. Some will say that’s wasteful and expensive to change that frequently. Others will say it’s fine.
When you first get this bike, drain the oil that’s in it. I have no idea what oil they put in it, but even the manual states to change the oil before riding. When breaking it in, I would change the oil you put in it within the first 5-10 hours. A quart of oil doesn’t cost much and you can check the oil screen for anything significant (metal shavings, debris, etc). You’re going to likely have some shavings, but this is normal. You don’t want to see chunks of metal.
Depending on where you ride, you can run 10w-40 or 10w-50. 10w-40 is recommended for areas where you have outdoor temps above 85 degrees Fahrenheit. I always run full synthetic but you could run a synthetic blend. Base mineral oil works fine, but I would be doing more frequent oil changes.
There are a number of different brands out there. Retella T4 is good and relatively cheap. Amsoil is great, but one of the most expensive. Everyone has a preference on which is best. But what matters really is that you’re using proper weight and most of all changing the oil frequently.
I’m sure others will comment about this with their experience and/or recommendations. Hope this helps.
That bike sounds awesome. Though I already have the 2022 KTM 350 excf, I'd still like this one to play with.
I would think one tooth smaller front Cog would be optimal for the trails in the woods. If you're going to ride it mostly on the road then changing the rear sprocket for either more speed for a higher top end whichever way you go makes sense
Can you tell me if the motor is based off like a Honda xR?
What plastics for the Templar M 5 speed??? I can’t find anything anywhere
I read that 07-09 Suzuki rmz plastics will fit
hello, i just bought this bike and my e- start does not work but the kill switch does work. how can i get it to work or is it bad?
Almost identical to the trailmaster tm31x I just bought 2weeks ago
Okay so I have the same bike for now like 5 months! I also live in pa. Whereabouts are you?
Awesome! Are you liking it? How many miles on yours now? And did you register yours? I’m going through that process now.
I live near the Pittsburgh Airport. How about you?
@@SteelCityRiderz I like it a lot so far as it’s my first bike and I ride it to work everyday that I can. Not registered though. Had to change engine as mine was defective and lost power and had to change both sprockets and rear wheel since spoke were snapped. My Speedo stopped working after the first mile. I have to change other minor things like my tail light and selector switch but other than that it starts up and rides well. I use unleaded and change oil every 5 ish hours of riding.
@@SteelCityRiderz I also had to get both top motor mount custom made since the original ones snapped. It’s been an adventure but I’m learning. I don’t ride it crazy. I red lock tited the motor mount bolts, hope I don’t regret that.
Did it ever work out for you with the license plate cause I live in pa too and I wanted to know
@@Tatted_up_wood I ended up selling it because we ride the SxS way more. But the guy who bought it lives in PA and got a plate from his notary same day.
Curious if they did send the mco saying motorcycle? And if so
Was it easy enough to
Get registered and insured?
Really cool video ! Bike does sound good looks like you dodged a bullet with whatever hit that shipping crate almost look like someone drove the fork into that support 😮😂
Thanks Tom! It was a bit of a gamble with this, but I call it the mutt lol. Engine is based off the old 250 Hondas and frame is KTM designed. Plastics are Suzuki RM. Most guys that have had these for years say great things. For the investment, it’s inexpensive compared to the big names. But yeah, I got lucky with the shipping crate damage 😂. I was thinking it was going to go back to Texas lol. Thanks for watching/commenting!
@@SteelCityRiderz when the weather breaks, I’ll have to get together and do some riding 👍
@@fatefarmspa yes 🙌🏻. 100%. Would definitely like to get together and do some riding
You must have bought the last one 😂. You can’t find them now. I ordered a Trailmaster TM35. It’s the exact same bike almost. Same engine etc… just doesn’t come street legal ready.
Haha I must have! Crazy how fast these have sold out
$1600. Amazing. How is that even possible. Wish they could ship to Europe.
Totally agree. It’s hard to pass this up for how good it is at the price point. $1600 + delivery. So close to $1900 at your door. It’s almost hard to justify buying a Honda CRF250L, for example, at twice the price used when you could but two of these.
$1,600? I’m confused I paid $1,200 with shipping
@@user-el7xy9rr7qcrazy Price. I would like to order 4 of them if they could ship to Denmark.
Where did you get yours? Thanks@@user-el7xy9rr7q
What kind of Gas does it take ?
Dang no more in stock!
Hi! Would you be able to tell me the size of the front and rear gears that come on it? Thanks, I appreciate it.
Hey can we get a pov of u with the max speed please
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How’s the bike running? Any more modifications?
Running good! No modifications yet. Going through the process of registering it in Pennsylvania 😁. Once I have it registered, the modifications will begin 👍
bro can Amazon deliver that to India, i really wanna get one of these
I have the same one being delivered this week have you got a top speed yet?
I wish! Not yet as I’m still breaking it in. I’m thinking it’ll do around 60 and/or a bit more. I had it up to 45 in 5th but didn’t want to push it to hard yet. Going to a 42 tooth rear sprocket will significantly improve top end. However, you have to keep in mind that you should build it to suit your style and riding needs. Some people may like the tractor feel for very technical riding. Mine will be mainly off-road with back road use. I won’t ride this on the highway. So I don’t see the need to go to anything less than a 42 tooth rear sprocket.
I can't wait mine will be here any day. I'm looking forward to your next video considering I was gonna get the templar x but they were sold out everywhere and you the only good video I could find on the templar m if I'm trying to get the most speed out of it what would you suggest I'm trying to be able to ride 60 that's the speed limit where I live in Virginia
@@brandonbennett7501 I’m so excited for you! You’ll love it. And thank you! I made this to help others. The M is really a good bike. I like that it has the kickstart as a back up. That’s one thing that will pay for itself in time …trust me lol. You’ll definitely want to drop the rear sprocket down. I suggest 42 or even 38. Your first gear will be more like 2nd or 3rd after doing that. Are you planning to do some off roading? Anything very technical?
Folks : Any opinions/7nfo re: the X versus the M versions? Seems impossible to find an X lately!
@@MichaelWhite-cx4hoI think they’re in stock on the website? Have you tried to order and it not work? Let me know please, thanks.
Do u need a plate ?? Want to get one for my son
Riding on the road, yes - Absolutely. Off-road, check your local laws 👍
2 stroke right? do you have to mix the gas and oil or is there a separate reservoir for the oil?
4 stroke. No mixing required
@@SteelCityRiderz oh that's awesome, figured it was. 2 stroke, thank you for the info
@@user-kd5xk7xm9nyou’re welcome!
Anybody know the difference in the Templar, the Templar M, and the Templar x ?
Templar is not counterbalanced, different plastics, 5 speed, kickstart, no adjustable suspension, slightly shorter by 6 inches in length, slightly lower seat height vs. X/M. M is counterbalanced, 5 speed with kickstart, and only damping adjustable front shocks. M/X share same frame, dimensions, and plastics. X is counterbalanced with 6 speed and fully adjustable shocks, but no kickstart.
The M is not counterbalanced.
Did you happen to find anything out on how to register for a plate?
When you buy ask for the MSO to be sent along with it. Keep "all" your paper work in order there are plenty of place on line to hep you with the licensing
If you order from Xpro or Powersportsmax, you need to email them with your order number and ask for the MSO to state “motorcycle” and for it not to state “off-road”. Do this as soon as you order the bike. It’ll make your life much easier. In Pennsylvania, you can apply for a modified title where you can convert a off-road bike to motorcycle, but it’ll will need to pass all levels of inspection at an authorized inspection shop. If you get the MSO stating “motorcycle”, you skip the modified process, get a title mailed to you, a plate, and walk out the door registered. In PA, motorcycles are required to be inspected annually too. Check with your notary or local DMV if you’re in another state. But almost all states, it’s much easier to register when the MSO states motorcycle.
@@micwell2247 thanks 🙏
@@SteelCityRiderz sweet. Ty!
@@SteelCityRiderz It appears you bought yours about 02-25-2024, or within a few days of that. Did they ship you a 2024 model, or a 2023? When you go to the powersportsmax website, then click on dirtbikes tab on the page. The wording on website TAB says 2024 New Dirt Bikes. However, they do not list a model year on any individual listings. We bought ours a month before you and they shipped us a 2023. Not cool. I believe they think it is OK to send you leftover model year inventory at their discretion without asking they buyer first. Not cool, regardless of the price. They should ask first.
which is faster x or m?
The X.. The 6th gear helps. It's smoother on top end. Both are 19hp.
Up date soon ??
Yes 👍!! I have a video coming soon on registering the Templar and a first woods ride 😎