Mouthpieces - The Cauffman Parabolic Asymmetric Mouthpiece
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- čas přidán 24. 01. 2017
- I bought this odd mouthpiece off Ebay, essentially it's a shallow cup mouthpiece that's been pinched or cast in an oval shape. Cauffman made these mouthpieces for both cornets and trumpets. This mouthpiece is a bit more raucous that what I'm used to in a mouthpiece, and just makes everything more difficult than it needs to be.
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I don't even play brass. This is just interesting
Ben Langtry I’m in orchestra 😂
same i just play clarinet
I learned so much about brass instruments on this channel alone
Me too
Same here. Fascinating stuff. So much engineering to modulate a mouth fart.
Trade-offs. You can't have a single mouthpiece that is exceptional at everything.
This tends to be the case with most all engineering challenges.
Mind blowing. My dad was something of a mouthpiece collector and I have now several interesting pieces including that exact parabolic and a Parduba double cup, neither of which I have ever actually played in a horn. As a tuba player I have never really believed much in gimmick mouthpieces. It was fascinating to see this somewhere else other than my mouthpiece collection.
It's a strange design but on another note your cornet playing is pretty good
Your vids have helped soo much.. I even got first chair trombone. It helps.
Musical Drawing congrats, good job
You didn't play it diagonally
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I like watching your videos, being a trumpet player of around ten years. (It'll be ten years this upcoming summer.) And I wasn't having that great of a day, but the pretty tunes cheered me up.
I'm actually a percussionist and a woodwind player but I still love watching your videos because I hope to be a band instructor in my future and I learn a lot from your videos
Hey Trent, I just wanna say I found your channel a week ago and your channel has been so informative and entertaining! Thanks so much for all the content!
Thank you :)
Thank you for the comment about stores not having a variety of mouthpieces for you to try to figure out what works best for you and the horn you are playing. I guess best bet is to order 10 spend a few days with them and then return the lot you can't use. Times have changed for the worst. Used to be a shop would have like 4 makes of tubas, and you'd play each make, and then after picking the make/model that worked, you then would try each tuba of that line they had, and see which one fit best, then try mouthpieces. Really hard to get a instrument that fits these days.
Great video! Phenomenal performances throughout.
Trent, in one of your videos regarding puffing cheeks, you mentioned a possible asymmetric mouthpiece that conforms to the curvature of the face. Would that sort of mouthpiece be worth while enough to be made?
I believe the Wedge mouthpiece already does this. You should check it out if it sounds interesting.
There are mouthpieces that do this already. I don't know what they're like to play with.
I play with a Wedge 4G. I love it, but it's not for everyone.
Your videos are so cool, you deserve SO many more subscribers! Keep it coming!
i now imagine Trent can name all the brass players on a first name basis
You might remember me from awhile ago. I said I was gonna run around my house because you responded to me. I've been subscribed to your channel since I saw your piccolo trombone video 2 years ago and I've always loved your videos.
Hi Noah, thanks for your comments :)
Trent Hamilton I've learned many things from your videos.
in germany, you can actually go to a shop and take several mouthpieces with you and try them at home for about two weeks. Or you can even call the manufacturer himself and order a few mouthpieces for testing. The option of sending the unwanted mouthpieces back is actually free in most cases.
Lars Dietrich We can do that too. I'm Finnish.
Lucky nothing is like that in the US
@@nicholastrombone9899 actually in Washington state we have ted brown music where you can go in to the stores and take a couple of mouth pieces in the back and play to your heart's content.
Yass I've been waiting for you to upload.. Yay.
I like the asymmetrical mouthpiece sideways on you the best sound wise. It seems to respond the absolute best.
I have an entire collection of these mouthpieces. They are interesting to say the least.
Hey, I've just checked out your channel and website. Would you be interested in sending me anything to review/demo? Either as a donation or as something I can ship back after the review?
U need to go to Dillon Music in Woodbridge NJ USA
Please do a review on a monette mouthpiece. I think that they are the best mouthpieces and do not sacrifice anything for tone and playability and everything like that. It simply has everything. I would really like to see you put this to the test. Their latest and greatest model is the resonance line. I have one in the mail right now
I play all instruments in band except for French horn/mellophone. Yo has taught me more about brass than I already know
Deatherman102 _ mello is easy but french horn is aids
sir lancelittle I mainly play bassoon, and true
I had tons of issues finding a mouthpiece for my Cimbasso that worked for everything and eventually just took it to a convention and played about 10 mouthpieces and finally found my best sound to be on a Warburton 25s but there are not even a ton of shops for Tuba players sadly even in Florida. I highly recommend taking your instrument to the largest convention you can find for brass and usually they bring about 40+ mouthpieces per large vendor.
Cimbasso is such an obscure horn, it’s just a luxury. Who even uses it for practical purposes, let alone for a living?...
One of my horns uses a Schilke 24--which is apparently HUGE for a trumpet mouthpiece.
Have you got a cushion rimmed piece for that super long endurance? Feels weird but I used to keep one in my spice rack
i find the same thing with my trombone mouth pieces for loud or high pitched music i use my bach 7c mouth piece but for long songs i use my king m21
Have you been practicing cornet? You’ve always sounded really good but that intro was phenomenal!
You should try the MF mouthpieces, straight V-cup with virtually no bite, super bizarre like these
The Tiny Gamer And if you can find one with a 16 throat, no resistance what so ever.
Oh, that's what we play with on the horn every day 😜
Have you played any of the Denis Wick Heritage mouthpieces? Are they any better than the cone shaped DW mouthpieces and worth the extra money (specifically for bass trombone)?
Have you put any thought in a mouthpiece for my alto horn?
First of all, thanks for your wonderful collection of brass videos. And you have a real gift of communication, with your sense of humour. Keep of the good work!
I just took delivery on a Wedge 1 1/2G bass trombone mouthpiece in which opposing sides of the mouthpiece are slightly shaved down. This give the impression of an oval form. The non-shaved ends are marked with a small dot, which need to be perpendicular to the horizontal plane. I'd love to get your impression of these mouthpieces. My bass bone (Yamaha 822g Xeno) is in the shop so I've only been playing this on my John Packer-Rath large bore tenor (332O). A lovely english designed and Chinese built trombone, btw. The feeling is no where near as weird as I'd expected IF I play as designed. If I flip it on it's side, so that the dots are in the corners, then it is a weird feeling.
What I wanted to say is, that except for the last playing excerpt, I found your tone mellower and more pleasing with the Cauffman mouthpiece. Full and didn't sound laboured.
musicofnote1 Hi! I know you posted this comment three years ago but I also play a Xeno and was wondering what you thought of the Wedge/Xeno combination? I just have an F-attachment tenor and I’ve been using the 51C4L mouthpiece thatI got with the horn but I’m not a fan...
@@kenzieford3612 - A lot of water under the bridge. I ordered a Wedge S59 after not having been 100% sure with the 1 1/2. At first I thought it would be too large, but it has turned out to be the mouthpiece I use for 99% of what I play on the Yamaha. I had to learn how to play both low and high on it and now have a usable range on the 822g starting f below bedal B-flat and going up 4 1/2 octaves to the high c above high b-flat. I take my time warming up the higher register, concentrating mostly on the middle to low registers. My daily test is to play a lightly tongued arpeggio from that pedal f up to the c and back down on one breathe. I keep the 1 1/2 around, but haven't played on it for maybe a year. Once I practiced the Creation and it was just a little too heavy with the Wedge, but worked very well, almost like a bass sackbutt with my old Yamaha 58. The Wedge S59 can give me a gutsy or a mellow sound, depending upon how I approach it. It slots terrifically, only being 2nd to my Hammond 21BL - which slots perfectly, but is otherwise too large for me. But also, it's way more comfy than any other mouthpiece and I do actually have more endurance with it than any other mouthpiece.
On the tenor side, I sold the John Packer and bought a Rath R400 which is miles better. I combined that with a Wedge 4g - that took a lot of experimenting and sent back a Wedge 4.5g and a Wedge 5g before settling on the Wedge 4g. I don't play it often, the last time being when I played 2nd on Schumann 4th. first half of the program was on the 822g, and the 2nd was on the Rath, mostly because the normal 2nd bone player had some medical issues and couldn't get up high enough, so I, the bass-bone guy, had to jump in and she did the bass bone part and I took the tenor. Worked well.
Hope that helped.
Hey Trent, it would be really cool if you did a video on Schiller instruments, since there is conflicting opinions on the low price and the quality, I think personally reviewing any of their euphoniums would be cool, but they have plenty of weird instruments for questionably low prices.
Did you ever do a review on an echo cornet?
Can you do more vids with the bugle? Thx
Has anyone ever told you that you look like Mike Lawrence? Well now you have.
But seriously though. I love your videos.
On the topic of mouthpieces, when I put my new mouthpiece into my French horn, the length I inserted was instantly scratched. Is that normal?
Have you ever thought about looking at Wedge mouthpieces? I have one for my BBb and it works great
Kool Aid Can you tell me more about what you think? And also: do you play with the curve going with your jaw or the lumps? I play trombone and I’m not a big fan of my current mouthpiece
What is your outro song titled?
What happened to your silver trumpet and the video of u showing all your instruments
Hey Trent is there a chance you could do woodwind videos aswell?
Legend has it Bertha and Tom are actually woodwind players
What happened to the French horn repair video?
So what kind of mouthpiece would you recommend, playing outside, below zero and in snowing conditions?
Plastic
I play the trumpet and when I bought it I got two mouthpieces in with it which had 5b and 14bc on them just I couldn't see or hear any difference between them and I'm curious if anyone knows what the difference is between them
I meant 5c and 14bc
Do you know any good marches for symphonic band like not a brass band?
Samuel Cardoso The Klaxon
It seems to me that any mouthpiece would need getting used to and in the same breath world have a different effect on other players. Have you given others to try this asymmetric mouthpiece to get a wider assessment of it's potential?
What mouthpiece would you recommend for a terrible cornet player who normally plays tuba, but would like to get better at cornet anyways?
The biggest one possible.
Can you review the Curry mouthpieces?
Is there something like this for small bore trombones/euphoniums?
Nicholas' Trombone I know I’m 2 years late on this but checkout Wedge mouthpieces. It’s not quite an asymmetrical mouthpiece like the one he shows in this video but it’s interesting and they seem to sound good to me
your intro song is beautiful, link?
Try the asymmetric mouthpiece by John Lynch, I found it great!
Trent, are there any mouthpieces for a straight Tenor Trombone that can bring out the deep register? In other words, the "opposite" of a Kelly screamer that really unleashes the extreme register. Is there any mouthpieces that can make low notes easier to play, i.e. The Eb 2 or D2 or C2? (Any mouthpieces that can slightly break an instruments playing limitations, like the tenor bone can't play anything past an E2 below the staff unless you got a lifetimes work of experience)
Spartacus Legends Schilke 51D. It's marketed as a Euphonium mouthpiece, but I use it for trombone. It has a deep cup and a small throat, allowing you to hit high and low notes while having a full sound.
It does a decent job of adding some trumpet timbre to the cornet.. not that you'd ever want that. Gimmick.
The piece you played was a euphonium solo. That was just like on your Bb tuba "bass" video.
James Ernst I sent it to him. It's an 'Aire Varie' with all different variations. The part is for euphonium, cornet or trombone. (That's what it says on the music).
Max Lawrence Oh
Favor hacer el video en Español
The parabolic mouth piece will allow you to walk on water, turn water into wine. Wow,
I'll buy two!
Mr. Hamilton, I ask you a question based on you extreme depth of knowledge. I have an antique E-flat Alto horn but it has no mouthpiece. What would you recommend as a suitable replacement. Thanks in advance!
Hi Mike, when you say antique, how old are you talking?
Well I'm not totally sure... it is a "Champion Chicago" branded horn that could be anywhere from 1890's to 1920's
First and second valve or third valve? Which one do you do? Is there a proper way? I know that third = first + second but have always just done first and second.
It depends on the instrument you're using - sometimes 1+2 will be out of tune when 3 alone isn't.
I agree with Trent. For example, I noticed that 3rd valve tends to be more consistent and closer in tune one concert tuba. While on sousaphone 3rd tends go flat a little more often, depending the model.
Hey Trent, do you happen to own any Marching Baritone Horns you can talk about on your channel?
I did a video a little while ago about a single valve baritone bugle that I have. I haven't got any marching baritones though.
Trent Hamilton I'll have to take a look. Thank you.
Trent, you need to try a WEDGE mouthpiece. They feel like a custom fit facial glove. The owner is a Canadian trumpet-playing medical surgeon. Don't blow this off now, you won't regret it. They may just give you one for a review.
I'd love to try it, but I'd hate to be _that guy_ that asks for free things.
@@TrentHamilton Go to their website (www.wedge.com) . They have mouthpieces that are discounted. I'm not a sales guy for them, but I like your analysis. I played on one for 2 hours with no lip swelling, fatigue, or pain side effects. The rim looks like "0", with the sides pushed in slightly. Thank you for replying.
Hi, I just wanted to say I love your videos, and have inspired me and I have learned a lot about brass instruments. Later on I'm planning on being a brass or band teacher. I play tuba, and should I learn to play different instruments, or wait until college? Also, if you can find one, a video on the serpent would be fun!
Hi, thanks for your comments. Learning other instruments is entirely up to you. I've always played multiple instruments.
Ok, Thanks!
Doge Music Productions if you plan on majoring in music education, they'll teach you to play adequately on each instrument (besides your main one)
Doge Music Productions At least for me (music ed/finance major)
Can u start to add on woodwinds to your channel?
Think you need to spend a few days in the better country and go to some of the brass shops in Melbourne. They have massive selections of mouthpieces there that you can play for hours on end!
You mention "better country" and then "Melbourne". Melbourne is part of Australia which means your "better country" is incorrect :P
I think the cricket will settle this on monday!
Is it me or does the horizontal configuration sound good? lol
I thought you played very nicely with both mouth pieces but it seemed to me you where having a few lipping problems with parabolic one.
i litterally just got an ad for an asymmetric mouthpiece
Are there any asymmetric mouthpieces for low brass instruments?
I really want to try one myself
I believe the Wedge mouthpiece is similar.
hey. im 16 and ive been playing trumpet for about 6 years. ive been wanting to by a couple new mouthpieces to try out as expiriments and was wondering if you had any suggestions? maybe like 100$ maximum...?
and i get it if you dont answer... you are probably very busy
The trouble with mouthpieces is that what works for me won't necessarily work for you. I'd see if you can find somewhere in your region that you can go to and test several options out.
exactly. i dont have that anywhere near me though. just looking for some unique mouthpieces to experiment with.
How is it to live in New Zealand? It's somewhere I've always wanted to visit and even consider living
It's awesome. That being said, I don't really have anything to compare it with.
Have you seen what Trump has been saying? He's already put an executive order in place to build the wall. I think it's time to pack my bags
Max B, that's far by the dumbest comment I've seen on any of mr. Hamilton's video so far.
Perhaps different point of view provided by horizontal VS vertical application of the mp would be more instructive...I have used the piece in its horizontal/proper position in combination with a variety of cornets with solid results (pedals to peak). One's mouth/lip/teeth/ etc. (embouchure)of course, as you alluded to indirectly, will determine mouthpiece choice in any case. In my case ribbon thin lips moderately narrow mouth and tight curvature of teeth.
My point isn't that this piece was formed for my mouth type .. just that few universal judgments can be made regarding the value or correctness of a piece...which could lead me into my questioning the acceptance..industry style/common music director accepted...of starting children/adults of all shapes and sizes on a 7C. Interesting share though Trent and well worth watching.
Trent, your awesome
With my current mouthpiece, I find it harder to hit high notes. I play mostly first part so high notes are obviously expected. Would you know of any trombone mouthpieces that have a history of high notes? If that makes any sense.
Jupiter 6 1/2 AL
If you're playing a small-bore tenor trombone, the 6½AL is a bit large for the high range. If you want to stay in the Bach type, try (progressively smaller) a 7C, an 11C, or - the smallest - a 12C. I prefer Schilke mouthpieces - such as a 47, a 47B, or (smaller) a 45 or 45B. All of these will make it easier for you to play high notes. Good luck.
David Ludwig yeah it's a large bore.
Lemonsqeezerz4 For larger bore, I recommend either Yamaha 48 or Back 6.5AL. Personally, I’d use the Yamaha just cuz it is a bit smaller and brighter than the Bach equivalent, in my experience. Those are the smallest ones for large shank, at least that I know of anyway. Anything smaller would require a shank adapter. And Just curious, what mouthpiece do you currently use?
You should have played with it oriented at an obscure angle, like some hipster was doing before it was cool.
The Asymmetric sounded about the same on lower notes, but as thee notes bot higher it sounds more and more like a sock has been shoved into the instrument to me.
top 5!!!
im so sorry
in his intro he has a trombone I know him as the trumpet guy with a cool acsunt
I can attest, this style of rim is not the standard at all for assymetric mouthpieces. Generally it's a round rim with a metal extention going into the cup that your bottom lip is supposed to rest upon
Aye. Mah name's Korg. Today I'm gonna show you about cornit mouthpieces
That is the mouthpiece you get after Bertha sat on your mouthpiece. Strange...
class ending music
I knew a high school band director who told all his trumpet players to use Bach 3C mouthpieces. I think expecting every player to be well-suited to the same mouthpiece displays profound ignorance. Additionally, he was an egotistical, know-it-all, arrogant bastard. There, it said it.
I am really learning trumpet from watching your channel by the way i play the trombone
I feel bad for Tom and Bertha
technically, it's LESS symmetrical than a normal piece
5naxalotl If you really want to be technical, the idea behind "typical" mouthpieces is to have radial symmetry (or rather, to be a perfect circle), meaning that if you were to cut the circle in half perfectly through the center from any possible angle, you would have two indiscernible halves. However, it is impossible to say the same about these asymmetrical mouthpieces, meaning they lack the radial symmetry of other mouthpieces, thus making them *radially asymmetrical*. So yes, technically, the term asymmetrical is still correct.
Why don't you ever really even mention French horns in your videos?
they arent in brass bands
They don't count
These are music videos
they’re the disappointment of the brass family
RGBPlaza hahahahah
Ocd beware
I'd donate to your channel if I could afford it.
When you accidentally hit the dislike button and facepalm yourself
Bulldawglover If only there were a way to undo this action.
I undisliked lol but some other person disliked after me
2 more likes until 696,9
They all sound the same
700th like
woodwinds are better
illum that's just your opinion
illum Someone plays clarinet
I thought you played very nicely with both mouth pieces but it seemed to me you where having a few lipping problems with parabolic one.