The Wedge mouthpiece review
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I clicked just to hear Trent say “wedge” and was not disappointed
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I was super blowed hearing him say it tho . Like "omg"🤦🏿♂️🤣
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Damn you slimmed down almost didn’t recognize you
Dude; you’ve lost some weight. Love the vids and love your dedication!
I was gonna say the same thing! I’ve been losing too. I’ve dropped almost 70 pounds since September last year.
I'm curious to know if he's doing abdominal work and if there is any noticeable changes to his playing.
@@franciscolinares7392 yeah I’m curious about it too. I haven’t touched my trumpet since before I lost weight. I graduated hs and haven’t had time to do so bc of work
For real I remember watching a video of his 1 year ago
Seriously, he's made massive progress in a very short period. Always nice to see that kind of hard work pay off.
Holy smokes ur looking great recently. Keep doing everything ur doing, weight loss, CZcams, music and all.
That horn sounds excellent on either mouthpiece. I’m sure that’s super-helpful, Trent! I actually like the Dennis Wick better, if I had to choose.
Er, *Trent* sounded good on either one. The horn on its own can't make a sound at all.
The man himself! OG CZcams tuba man, hope you're good
@@PilliamWilliam Hi Sam!
Another great show! Sipped some coffee from the shows mug, sat back, and learned something new… thank you, Mr. Hamilton!
I'd say the wedge sounds slightly louder, maybe darker, but it's interesting that you enjoyed it slightly less. It looked visually like you were having to concentrate more with the wedge, purely from facial expressions, but that you were pleased with the outcome. Trying a wedge with your primary instrument probably would be the most representative to get a deep assessment, but even just this one is enough to spark my interest.
I think doing a wedge for euphonium review would be helpful. Might want to add some details on how it is fitting to your face.
Please, please try to get your hands on the Euphonium Wedge mouthpiece for a trial run or something, that would be such a great idea! I hope that wouldn't be something you would have to make a purchase of, find out it sucks, and then be stuck with a hunk of metal after. Also, thanks so much for your dedication to Brass instruments and music! I have been considering buying a wedge myself, and if you like it, I think I'll give it a buy and see how it goes for me. I've enjoyed your videos thoroughly for the last 4-5 years, keep up the awesome work! Sending love from the States.
Wedge mouthpieces have an excellent trial/return policy, so there is no reason not to give it a try. I have played Wedge trumpet mouthpieces for three years now, and am happy. Dave will be happy to answer any questions you might have.
I love my Wedge.
The Wedge company lets you sample a mouthpiece before you buy it, so I took their quiz to match my embouchure to one of their mouthpieces and ordered one (C Findley M) a few years ago before I started practicing for a musical (Shrek, to be exact).
I play trumpet and usually by the end of a show my lips are shot by the finale and bows, but during the first full run-through not only did my lips last the entire night, I hit the sustained High G on the last note of the bows. I was instantly sold.
I played in another musical that summer as well and that show (Dirty Rotten Scoundrels) also had many times throughout the show where you play regularly above High C, especially the bows, and I nailed all of it without my lip giving out. I even managed two shows in one day!
I highly recommend at least sampling one of their mouthpieces because it changed my playing for the better.
Hey Trent, been a while since I’ve seen you. Looking great buddy!
Great video! As a medium-term wedge user (5+ years), the idea with the asymmetry on the sides is that it reduces pressure on the lateral arteries that supply blood to the middle of the chops, reduces swelling and fatigue associated with long playing sessions. For me this has been very evident in my own experience.
Also, wedge backbores are, in my experience, a bit different than other makers... A more apples-to-apples would be to use the same bottom part And change out flat vs wedge rims. (Full disclosure: I use wedge tops but not wedge backbores as they don't really get the tone color and shape I am looking for).
Also, FWIW, I found that the uncertainty about placement of notes really changed after about 4 weeks of acclimation. No way to really simulate that in a one-off review.
I've used a wedge for about a month now, and I absolutely love it, it took a week to get used to, but it was worth the wait. I recommend getting one, but they aren't for everyone
Looking wonderful!!! Thanks for the videos!
Wowwww you've lost a lot of weight well done it's knocked 5 years of you :) well done love from the UK
Wow, it has been a long time since one of your videos were recommended go me and you have slimmed down a lot. As long as you are happy, keep doing your thing. Support no matter what.
Wow. Looking and sounding good. Been watching your vids for a little bit. Your collection of instruments has grown astronomically. Really appreciate you and your videos. Keep doing good things.
To my ear the Wedge seems to be more consistent in the sound through the registers but the Wick seems more comfortable to play (which is to be expected because it’s what you’re used to). I played Wedge for several years as a tubist and they were very comfortable but I lost some flexibility while playing it. Definitely worth trying them out!
Odd… Wedge tries to add flexibility, at least from what I hear.
I've been using the Wedge almost exclusively for three years or so on my trombone, euphonium, tenorhorn, and, occasionally, my alphorn. I gather you can tell from my comment that I do like the Wedge. Occasionally, I do revert to a standard symmetrical mouthpiece just to experience the difference, and, sometimes, to rest my chops.
I have been using the Wedge for many years when I played the trumpet. The biggest advantage is that it definately helps your endurance, you last longer. I believe that is the purpose of the Wedge, rather than improving your sound.
I know changed to trombone and am considering a Wedge again, although a trombone mouthpiece is much less effort than a trumpet mouthpiece. I find it amazing how good Trent’s tone on all these different horns is
Not a Wedge shill, just really happy customer. I have been playing on a Wedge 4G trombone mouthpiece for about 3 years now. I absolutely love and recommend them. It took about 3 weeks to get used to, but I have loved the sound and the flexibility that comes from it.
Also, get yourself a Wedge for your euph. I'd be interested to see what you thought of it.
Looking great mate. Loved the review..looking at purchasing a Flugel mouthpiece. Saw you and heard you on NZ Band comp. Great Eupho playing. Thanks
I have a wedge trumpet mouthpiece and after having 2 strokes, and then Covid in 2019… I just don’t dig the sound And the playing is more unsure. I am a professional jazz trumpet 🎺 player and vocalist. I switched to the Denis Wick heritage mouthpiece and fell totally in love. Also the wedge is a steep $290.00 us. Been playing the wedge since 2015. And just switch to Denis Wick about a month ago. Makes my sound more warmer and richer… going to sell my wedge.
I use the Wick horn mouthpiece. Love it. I played a E. Schmidt for years but when I bought that one, ever went back. I also have a bathtub of a Halstead that I like to use to make my horn a trombone.
They do make euph, trombone, french horn, tuba, and tenor horn mouthpieces. They all cost a large sum of money.
I was going t pick up a trumpet one for myself but after seeing the price, I decided "not gonna do it", at least not now. As I'm not currently playing professionally or even on a regular basis, it's not a good investment. If another kid takes up trumpet, since I'll be playing a lot, I may revisit this. I'm glad Trent did this review as I wanted to get some 3rd party impressions on this.
@@Studio42dotCom-Real if you love something don’t stop doing it as long as it doesn’t cause you harm
@@kingofsludge7262 That's now I live my life.
the Wedge go into direction trumpet, but the Dennis Wick is gorgeous, so smooth ... lovely 🤪
These comments are very helpful too. I was looking for a review and I'm glad I found this one
To my ear, of the mouthpieces under review, the Wedge comes in a strong #2. But then I am a harpsichord player.
You sure look good, and healthy. What an inspiration!
I preferred the sound of the Denis Wick. I don't know if it was because you weren't used to the Wedge or what, but the sound out of the Wick was more pleasing to my ear.
It takes a bit to get used to a Wedge mouthpiece. When you first use it it feels weird because there's less support for the corners of your mouth. It gets better after a few weeks.
Heritage Denis Wick 5B?
i use the same and i’m very happy with it
MY BOY TRENT IS GETTING IN SHAPE!!!
I'm a horn/tenor horn player and I've never heard of wedge mouthpieces even though I do have the internet and social media!
I don’t play anymore but my freshman and sophomore year I played tuba and before that I played trumpet and I haven’t heard of one but grated this could be A fairly new thing to come out and because that was a couple years ago I just haven’t ended up on that side of the Internet
Boy you look grate you lost so much weight
Thanks Trent, very informative. I had to smile when I heard you play a few bars from Temperamental. I heard it and thought “ooh I like that piece, what is it again?” 😂
Came to hear you say the word "Wedge", was not disappointed. Love your accent bro!
I've been waiting forever to see you do a review of the Wedge mouthpiece. I would love to see your take of it on euphonium! I personally have wedge mouthpieces for my jazz trombone, bass trombone, and tuba and love all of them.
So very similar!!!! The wedge sounded richer with the wedge to me. I'd almost want to say "deeper" but that isn't really an appropriate word but I can't really come up with anything better. More full maybe?
You looking good man!
Your low range seemed way better with the wedge, while it seemed like your high range suffered a bit. The high range could just need some time to get used to the mouthpiece. I would attribute most of the timbre difference to the mass as you noted.
Just to let you know the wedge mouthpiece is designed by a doctor/ musician and it’s made in Canada 🇨🇦
Hi Trent, something you should consider is the effect of the Wedge on endurance. The veins that supply the lips come in from the side but then turn up to the side of the nose, same on the bottom lip. IF one can minimize the pressure on the sides then blood flow and hence endurance will be maximized....SO THIS would be the main the advantage of a Wedge IMO - so test it out. Pick the longest hardest thing to play you can think of and do it one day on the Wedge and one day on your regular set up...then compare the recordings for quality of sound towards the end of your workout pieces...Cheers Pete
Nice review. Hope you are healthy Trent
I bought a wedge ten years ago and it’s a great mouthpiece. Discourages smashing the mouthpiece into my face and the corners actually have to be strong to stay where they need to be, no cheating.
Hi Trent. I've been using a Wedge cornet mouthpiece for a while now. I've got the one-piece model and it weighs 74g as opposed to a standard Wick which is 64g, so there's not much difference. I find it gives me more endurance and has also helped with range a little. I started with the plastic model before I committed to the expense of the metal one however an happy with the results. I used to play on a Wick 3B most of the time. By the way, I tried a Heritage model and hated it! I've just purchased a Wedge trumpet mouthpiece and will likely end up getting a flugel one as well.
Great video, i also hot a lot of adds for the wedge mouthpiece and i wondered that it would actualy sound different. Your channel is great and also great video and audio quality
I've actually watched the wedge mouthpiece ad a few months ago, and I knew that you would do a review on them @Trent Hamilton, but I've never tried one, seems promising however.
Haven’t watched your videos in a while but I stumbled across this in my recommended and almost didn’t recognize you. Looking good my man 👍
Wedge is brighter. Flexibility seemed great on both. I imagine it would take quite a while to get really use to the Wedge, to get the anchors and set comfortable
Looking good man.
LOVE my Wedge S59 and 1.5G bass trombone mouthpieces and my Wedge 4G tenor trombone mouthpiece.
I had one of those Conn's wish I could have kept it.
Great video, and i have the idea that my screen is larger or that you take less space on the screen.
You look great Trent!
Holy cow man I haven’t been around for a long time but you’ve lost some serious weight, congratulations!
Keep up the good work on the fitness side especially Sir Trent! Good Video.
I'm a guitarist and a sax player, and I've somehow gotten bombarded with ads for the wedge. I thought you sounded equally good on both mouthpieces, and figured it would come down to the feeling of the mouthpieces as to which you felt more comfortable with.
I'd love to see you get one for euphonium and give it a good month or so to throw out an in depth review.
I have since done exactly that - check out my review
@@TrentHamilton Yup, about 5 minutes after I posted that comment I scrolled down and saw your review and forgot to edit it. Seems like an interesting bit of kit that's situationally very useful, especially if you fall into the niche of people who seem to fit it well.
Also, I'm still waiting for a How it's Made for Sax. The clarinet and trumpet ones were fantastic.
They can make you a custom mouthpiece. If you already have the backbore and it's standard warburton threads it's likely he can make you a modified cup and rim contour based on what you want.
Acrylic or Delrin mouthpiece have a nice soft feel you might like. I think the mouthpiece you had didn't work as nice as the Wick because the gap on the shank is not even close.
Wedge has a pretty good customer service. I would try one if you can. You might like it.
The heritage had more power on the low end and was more airy in the uppers, the wedge was brighter / thinner on the low end, lacking some power or darkness, it had more power and punch in the mid-uppers, and didn't roll off into the airiness in the upper range as much.
it’s been a while since i’ve seen one of your videos and wow! looking good man
I wonder how the throat sizes compare? That might explain the "difference". You definitely sound more comfortable on the Wick.
Loved your playing, mate!
The recordings were reasonably balanced sound wise.
They make a whole line.......which reminds me I should visit them when i get a chance to get out of town.
I have a couple friends that use Wedge on Euph..... nice sound.
Dr. Dave is a scientist of the field.
Holy Molly! You've lost a lot of weight!! Tell me how!
You look really well. Proud of you
hey there, nice vid. Just wondering how the wedge would compare to a 2B classic Denis Wick cornet mouthpiece with a Denis Wick booster attached?
I like your sound better on the Wick as well, but of course you would probably be more comfortable with the Wedge over time. I have a Wedge bass trombone mouthpiece and have spend some time on it, but still prefer my tried and true Schilke 59. Congrats on your weight loss!
Hi Trent. The mouthpiece you are playing is probably an American style cornet mouthpiece. In addition to the differences you pointed out it also has a tighter throat than a Wick, which will produce more resistance and a brighter, more focussed sound. Depending on what is engraved on the mouthpiece it might also be shallower than the Wick. I make American style cornet mouthpieces in a variety of depths, some intended as piccolo trumpet mouthpieces.
You should probably compare your Wick to a Wedge British cornet mouthpiece, which is more similar in design. That would be an apples to apples comparison. Trying a euphonium mouthpiece would also be a great idea. I would be happy to send you both to review if you are interested.
Dave Harrison, inventor of the Wedge.
Hi Dave, thanks for reaching out. I've got a Zoom appointment with you booked for about 23 hours time :)
I think it would be interesting to hear it on maybe even something a little bit bigger than a euphonium like maybe a bass trombone or even a tuba I think it would be interesting to hear the difference in characteristics that that extra flexibility let’s you have
Looking good Trent!
I used it a lot when I had braces. I loved it but returned to a normal mouthpiece once I got my braces off.
Wow! Trent, you’re looking great! 👍👍
The wedge has a bit more "bite" to it. It is not as mellow as your normal mouthpiece. The wedge mouthpiece makes the Cornet sound more like a Trumpet. It is a bit more crisp.
my thoughts exactly
Silver has superior anti bacterial properties to gold apparently. Why therefore is gold used to plate mouthpieces? Keep well Trent, and keep up the good work.
Sorry BassPlayer98, I was not aware that nickel was used theses days. However, I was referring to silver plate not nickel. Silver is not only superior to gold but less costly too.
Trent Ive been subscribed for three years but I havent checked in too recently. you look amazing
YOU PLAYED IN VIENNA PHILHARMONIC WITH JOHN WILLIAMS? PLAYING IMPERIAL MARCH!! HOW LEGENDARYYYYYY
It sounded kind of like you struggled more with the low range with the wedge. If I imagine myself with a mouthpiece like that it makes sense in my brain why that would be because there'd be less room to drop your lower lip... Of course I don't have a wedge mouthpiece so all I got is that recording so let me know if you felt that.
My issue with the wedge is that I already play in such a way that I get a semi-wedge effect (exactly as you described) BEFORE I ever tried a wedge.
When I tried using one, I felt like my lips were being extremely clamped down, the opposite of the way the piece SHOULD be felt. It did not work for me.
It sounds heavier. It seemed a bit leaky almost at the beginning, but aside from that, it’s very similar to the differences I observe between my Schilke 14A4A and my Schilke Faddis. (Trumpet, not cornet) They are both very similar in contour, (the Faddis is slightly shallower with a slightly smaller throat) but the Faddis is significantly heavier than the 14A4A, and my articulations come through WAY hotter, and it sounds brighter. Both are very bright given how shallow of a cup they have, but there is still an observable difference. In tone and the resistance I feel whilst playing them. Almost like playing muted vs unmuted. I may be completely wrong though, as I’m still very early in my musical experience and am learning more by the day, so take it with a grain of salt.
Not a whole lot of difference, but the wedge has a slightly brighter tone. You did not make any mention of the other characteristics of your mouthpieces such as rim diameter, cup depth, back bore, etc
Great film, as usual.
Wow you look fantastic
I’m considering getting a wedge. Would love any review done with the wedge for some feedback.
Indeed, they make all the mouthpieces covering the whole family of brass. I'm a bass trombonist and use a Vincent Bach 1 1/4 G. A couple of years ago, l bought the appropriate Wedge mouthpiece for £220 GBP. I did find that despite its asymmetric nature, it didn't really perform any different to my Bach and didn't justify the very expensive outlay. I returned it and got a refund. The company was very easy to deal with.....Trent, l wonder if you'll find a similar experience with the eupho Wedge?
I wonder if some of the pitch flexibility could be down to the backbore? Particularly thinking of the length or width of the throat (cylindrical portion)
I play euph and I’m curious if the wedge mouthpiece for euph is worth the investment
You look much more healthy and much younger
I see the glow up👀
Tried a Chuck Findley model, it's not for me. I tried both orientations. Just feels strange and wrong.
Hey hey lookin good mate
So as a trumpet player myself I didn’t really hear much of a difference other than the tonality, the wedge has a darker and warmer tone I feel like
Good video!
They both sound really good, but the Wedge sounded thinner, and your regular mouthpiece noticeably fuller and darker.
You sound exactly like Trent Hamilton, but you look different - younger, for sure, and somehow more handsome and dashing than Trent Hamilton. Are you a brother? A criminal abductor/kidnapper? I see you have added a Wagner Tuba to your collection wall. Hmmmmm... that could be a clue - a veiled reference to Nazi mayhem. I demand that you release the REAL Trent Hamilton immediately.
YOU LOOK GREAT MAN
Strange how you and many of the other commenters thought the Wick was better. I thought you were enjoying the Wedge more, and hitting the notes more accurately.
Tried the Wedge twice. Found it very uncomfortable because it put pressure on the center of the top lip. Just where you want to minimize pressure. It did not live up to claims of greater range and endurance and the the whole combination of cup, drill and backbore did not seem to be in balance. While Dave Harrison is a nice enough Guy I don' t think he really knows much about mouthpiece design. There are much better choices out there. I have found Patrick Mouthpieces to be the best designed and actually do what Steve claims. Hope my opinion helps.
Coming back after some time, Trent you're looking great. Whether you're working out or dieting or what have you, looking good(No homo). Also I've seen the ads for the wedge and have been interested, however I'm still in school so I don't have $150 to drop on a mouthpiece.
I didn’t recognize you at first!
The wedge sounds cleaner to me
The sound as though the cups are quite different. Rim profile aside.