Valve Needs To Take Notes - Ayn Odin
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 - It's RETRO TIME!
0:35 - Please calm down
0:54 - Unboxing and overview
2:17 - Sponsor - UGREEN
2:52 - Ayd Odin exterior impressions
5:07 - Size comparisons
5:49 - Weight comparison
6:18 - Ayn Odin super dock
6:51 - Why are the buttons always different
7:22 - Why it's a super dock
10:22 - Powering on the Ayn Odin
11:08 - Gaming first impressions
12:30 - Pricing
13:05 - Final thoughts
13:25 - Speaker impressions
14:41 - Final thoughts continued - Věda a technologie
The reveal for that SATA port on the dock was unreal. Valve seriously should be taking notes because that's actually 500IQ.
@@bryanjk This literally prevents ewaste, letting people use old peripherals and drives instead of having to purchase modern ones, simply because the older connected was not supported by choice.
@@bryanjk “racist”? Are you OK there mate?
@@johnbuscher it's obviously a troll, no need to stress over it
@@bryanjk what are you talking about “racist”🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@private679r.i.c.o4 Apprently his account is 15 years old
This mean 1) he bought a youtube account for "trolling" and/or 2) this guy is like 30+ and is acting like a child online
Either way it's kinda sad
A few things Anthony didn't talk about/correcting Anthony:
- Yes, that's a fan. You can change the fan settings in the notification tray.
- You can overclock in the notification tray as well.
- This device is strong enough to play GameCube, Wii, and PS2 emulators. (And very small bit of Nintendo Switch, ex Sonic Mania at 60fps)
- You can map touch controls for android games that do not work with controls ex Genshin Impact.
(Any one else with high knowledge use this comment as a thread to add more information for people)
You can even run Windows with GPU-Acceleration on it
Probably a dumb question but what about streaming xbox game pass games?
@@sushifish3047 Yeah you can do that as well
@@sushifish3047 you can stream with game pass, xcloud, stadia, Moonlight, etc. There's a setting to change from Nintendo layout to XBox layout
what can you use to emulate switch?
the engineering that went into the dock alone is impressive. I will keep their devices on my radar.
nah,its chinese product, its not good
@@edogawakonan8930 It's great! I love it! One of those anti-China trolls, eh?
@@edogawakonan8930 Some of them aren't bad. For example, the Powkiddy devices are generally good. If you put a community firmware on them, they get much better performance. The V90 handles all handhelds GBA and older perfectly, and just about anything at or before 4th generation for under $50. The only real complaint I have is the plastic sucks. I'd rather pay an extra $10. Their more premium handhelds have better build quality and performance.
Even with the device in this video, the weakest part is probably the joycon sticks, but that's not a huge problem because they are very cheap and easy to replace. The whole housing can be replaced and only require a single ribbon cable. They go for under $5 on average if you're willing to wait on shipping.
But they software is disappointing. They are far behind with releasing kernel sources and unlocking fastboot. This device was also supposed to be developer friendly and it wasn't.
@@heasterian2508 what do you mean? It actually is developer friendly?
You need to turn on high performance mode. It overclocks it. Then you can turn the fan on. They have their own custom launcher also. Make sure you run the update as well, as they do OTA and have done 2 since I have had it.
Quick note on the button colors: they're copied from the SNES layout. The whole console kinda looks like a switch fused with an SNES controller.
I really like the controller ports on the dock! In general the dock super cool. Quite like the detail of having the screen still accessible docked, unlike the switch.
European SNES that is. Or Super Famicom. NTSC SNES had two shades of purple.
The button layout and colours actually resemble the ones of the New Nintendo 3DS/3DSXL as well.
Even closer to the new 3ds xl as they did use colored lettering on the buttons.
@@qlum I mean the new 3ds xl's button lettering is an homage to the SNES controller buttons
@@Pfish1000 fair enough
The most impressive part of this handheld had to be the legacy ports
Scratch that, the entire dock
@yes don't worry, I will spread the Lord's word to others
You can run windows 10 on it, run Box86, and play modern games. This video is a god damn sham.
Are the ports really such a big deal?
I mean everyone who is into retro emulation probably already has a dongle and/or a third party controller.
@@goodasdead4303 Windows 11 ARM and its built-in x86 emulation is better.
@@goodasdead4303 At this point just spin a Linux distro on it, running Windows on this will make it anemic
A few points you missed that are touched on in WULFF DEN's review.
1. The Console features a few different Performance modes including a High Performance which will Over Clock the Console and really push the fan (Yes that is a fan for active cooling)
2. The Odin has a GUI built for it that you can enable which looks quite practical and very clean
3. The sticks use magnetic positioning to register their movement which does not lend its self to drift issues since it isn't based on contact/rubbing the way the switch is.
4. They are pushing OTA updates pretty frequently (I believe they have had 2 or 3 since launch.)
I love you guys over at LTT and especially Anthony but I do feel like they should have been more thorough with this review. Not sure if there were limits put on them as far as what they could or couldn't do in regards to opening the console but I think that something like this really does deserve a deeper dive in the future and you should have gone ahead and popped it open, as well as spent a bit more time digging through the settings to understand exactly what you are looking at. No hate, just some constructive critique for the future.
They don't have hall sticks, it's one of the most common upgrades, the odin 2 does but not the odin/pro
Anthony is such a great host honestly. So calming and informative
I read this as he screamed OMEGA DOCK
Ayn: *generously sends a tempered glass screen protector*
Anthony: *snaps it*
Ayn: ...
"Pretty good screen protector"......
not anymore doofus XD
I mean, the screen is not broken. Screen protector definitely worked.
Didn't like it at all when he did it
That annoyed me so much lol.
Talks highly of a product then decides a few seconds into opening the box to purposely break something in said box.
....W H Y ? !
In a way that was a good quick and dirty evaluation of the screen protector. I'll give it a pass.
Ok, that dock is SICK. They even went with SATA for good performance at a nice price.
What would the alternative be? P-ATA? Sata is the only option to make sense ...
@@der-andyman This device technically could support PCIe over NVMe, sure that's faster, but also a little more costly.
@@der-andyman The alternative is not having the SATA and you just get USB storage.
@@Postman00 Oh i see, i somehow completely forgot about USB-Thumb drives for a moment there XD
@@der-andyman SATA is old tech. NVME/thunderbolt is the new standard. USB with pci express, or pci express.
SATA was the current standard 5 years ago but now computers don't even have SATA ports.
That combo makes the experience so amazing for something at such a low price. Though not as great performance wise as the stem deck, the entire system works so well. This is probably the best budget retro gaming console set ever.
That is surprisingly extremely well and fairly priced, especially the dock
This is probably the coolest android console I've seen. It's got horsepower, the sickest dock ever, and even the pro model is dirt cheap for what you get.
I'd definitely buy one, if not for a war in my country
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Agreed
@@512TheWolf512 totally agree, same
I have one, and I love it, but despite me absolutely babying my handhelds, it already has 3 dead pixels. I’m honestly pretty pissed about it.
"IT'S RETRO TIME!" is the only intro sequence we need for this channel.
And yet, we didn't get to see anything retro being played on the device. If this is what "retro time" is like, I don't want it.
Every time I see an overview of this thing I'm blown away. I just always forget something that it has cause it has SO MANY FEATURES. I love this thing so much
For those that want to know prices and not wait till the end of the video
Odin Pro: $287
Odin Base: $238
Odin Lite: $198
So cheap That it feels like its a money laundry scheme
@@the_retag that's what I thought at first lol bit then I realized it's only a mobile chip so it makes sense. Still very powerful for a mobile ship being a SD845. Definitely leagues stronger than my phone which uses SD670.
@@sloth7d526 phones go over a k
@@the_retag what's your point? Yeah they go over a k but you're acting like that's normal? Most people don't but flagships, they buy low-midrange. $200-$700.
Especially in lower income countries there are phones with SD845 that can get their cost below $400 or even $300. The DS was around $200, the switch lite is the same thing. These things aren't phones making them cheaper and trying to compare them makes zero sense.
@@sloth7d526 i wa sjist making the point that mobile processor/=/auto cheap
The reason there's two HDMI outputs on the dock is that the Lite model doesn't support video output over USB C. There's a mini HDMI port next to the microSD card slot under the cover at the top of the device, and you use a jumper cable to go from the Odin's mini HDMI output to the micro HDMI input at the top of the dock.
If you're serious about using the Odin docked, I would at least get the Base model to avoid having to use the HDMI jumper. Mini HDMI and micro HDMI ports are not very durable, so if you're using the Lite model docked be very careful when you're unplugging/plugging in the cable.
Had a few cameras with micro HDMI. Can confirm the port sucks ass.
6:51 Anthony you absolute HUNK, the button colors are a reference to the Super Famicom controller! They're perfect like they are, and so are you!
probably because the NA Super Famicon didnt have these colors like the European version 🤷♂️
Cheers Anthony, nice to see the Odin getting some more mainstream attention. It ticked my boxes for a retro gaming handheld and eventually ... it will arrive.
I've seen the Odin from a lot of youtubers but this is the first time I've seen the dock covered and wow! Its actually amazing!
Got mine a week ago... and it's been impressive! I'd say I've had 80% success for GC/Wii (dolphin mmjr) and 50-60% success with PS2 (AetherSX2)... it's great! And yes, it has an active cooling fan, it will turn on in high demanding games (mostly GC/Wii/PS2 for me... have yet to test any android games)
If I wasn’t more hyped on the Deck, I would have ordered one of these. The Odin seems amazing for the price and for older 3D games and back, is a great solution.
What was your order number?
@@shepherdosterompton 58xx, Black Pro 256GB. Ordered Jan 16, Shipped Apr 8, Delivered (Canada) Apr 13.
Bummed that I ordered mine before 256gb was even an option, but oh well. Still love my 128gb
Ordered one and can't wait to get my hands on it!
Speaking about hands, is it comfortable for long gaming sessions?
With my Switch Lite, I had to get a Grip otherwise it was a pain to hold, way too slim.
So, they bought a 10-port USB 3.0 hub chip and slammed a ton of devices onto it. Pretty nice design, the SATA port is a cherry on the cake
If I wanted a device like this, this one looks like a VERY viable option! I'm genuinely impressed at that audio quality and the dock seems to me to be a really clever extra at an actually pretty reasonable price.
This thing looks awesome. I love the idea of retro gaming handhelds, but never can justify buying one that's so narrowly focused. This looks like it would be great for that pluss gamepass, steamlink, etc. Especially for the price. Hope to see maybe a full LTT review on this one. Maybe a full comparison on handhelds for emulation and game streaming.
7:19 They didn't "just keep the colors" for Xbox because they're literally using the Nintendo colors from the Super Famicom, along with the Nintendo placement from the Super Famicom. Almost like it will be emulating Super Famicom games, with color-coded buttons, and they wanted them to match.
Calm down man, the American version is purple, that's why he didn't know.
@@Chipmunkboy I'm American and had _several_ EU-colored controllers growing up, on top of games that used those colors. I'm not sure that's an excuse.
When I heard him say that I was like "OH MY GOD ANTHONY! NO!"
@@Blutzen it could have been like 28 years since he last played a SNES game why would he remember such a minute detail
@@Chipmunkboy Anthony is LTT's resident retro gamer. He's done reviews on Retrons and talks about Retro-pi. It has not been 28 years since he's played a SNES game.
That price absolutely blows me away. To be fair I didn't look at the tech specs but I assumed it'd be absolute minimum $500 + 100 for system and dock, realistically closer to 700 for the whole package
It has pretty old chip - Snapdragon 845, we have a lot better options right now. I wish they made 500-600$ versions with Snapdragon 888 or Dimensity 9000 tho, those have thermal issues on the phones, but MUCH better performance, it would be perfect for something like this, they can even emulate switch games!
@@Zysperro the 845 is still totally fine. My phone still has one and its 100% still useable. Phone performance has kinda stagnated.
@@bhume7535 even the 870 is 2x the power on paper. Actual difference is about 50%, but sometimes it's crucial.
@@bhume7535 that chip only run genshin on low step it up to 870 and i will buy it in a heartbeat.
@@Zysperro 50% is huge thats my upgrade reference point
Anthony: "Plastic is almost like a soft touch"
Jono: "Satin"
Linus at home: "F**king Eggshell"
soft touch plastic is horrible....
the stuff becomes tacky after a while and makes any device its on disgusting to use after a set period of time.
only solution i found is to litterally bathe and scrub the item with alcohol to get the stuff off.
The Odin is like a miracle device that all of us retro handhelds enthusiast have been waiting for, we've even doubted the company's ability to deliver a working product, because its early bird pricing of 200 bucks.
Well, it's here, and it works exactly like the miracle device we all thought it was. As a retroid pocket owner, I've very happy to see that these devices are pushing their OS forward, I just wish that it didn't require them to go 180 with the open source code they used to provide. But, I understand that Ambernic and Powkiddy would've just happily stole it otherwise, and with the promise to keep spare parts in the market for repair in the future, I'm very happy with it.
What games do u play
@@vidhyachan6494 atm, not much, I'm currently going through Cross Code.
Im still waiting for the kernel source release like they said when asked during funding. It is a great feeling device and really makes its competitors look over priced.
Same! I want that kernel, I want that root!
It would be fun to use it as a phone! I mean probably not for very long but a week just for the hell of it
@@michaelcorcoran8768 It might be, but doesn’t have a SIM card slot, so tough to do.
@@michaelcorcoran8768 If I could get one of these with a snapdragon 888 and a sim tray I'd definitely use it as a phone. It might even win me over my zfold 2. I'd prefer the handheld
Don’t they legally have to release it because of the GPL? So if they haven’t they’re breaking the law
When Anthony is the host u know it’s gonna be good
It’s really cool of you guys to spotlight the Odin, I’ve been waiting for you to check it out!
I love the thinking around the dock. They should use the same philosophy for a Thunderbolt 4 Dock with integrated eGPU and NVMe.
Ok, the dock is actually cooler than the device, honestly.
it has a freaking sata connection
Yeah, I have android emulators and controls with Kishi already, but I don't have a dock like that.
I wonder if it's exclusive to this handheld or if I could use it with other devices
Judging from past WAN Show I guess it's more like "we lost half our writing stuff and Linus time" xD
Always great to see you Anthony!
Think we will see the effects from that in the next couple weeks
Please do a full LTT video. This thing deserves so much attention.
When Anthony said he was going to test the speakers I was like “LOL yeah ok” and then I was super impressed. A lot of effort went into this thing.
Love how more and more handled gaming devices are coming out
Steam deck can't and won't be a failure, since their main goal was exactly this, to bring competition in the market
This came out much before the deck
@@bulletpunch9317 it came after the announcement though
@@orlandofurioso7329 right, but a working unit was shown by taki udon before that.
@@bulletpunch9317 true, they both were prototypes at the time
@@orlandofurioso7329 yeah looks like taki udons reveal of odin was a few months earlier than deck announcement. Odin is an evolution of the other various chinese handhelds, just by an unknown company.
Even Android 9 can run almost all apps. Android apps are much more forgiving on old OS versions.
They need to be considering how inconsistent Androids are regarding whether they're getting the latest updates (aside from Pixels since they're the only ones actually made by Google).
If you don't need some crazy specific apps or newest most demanding games you will be fine with even android 7.
@@wanderingwobb6300 So that's good. I just retired my 150usd Android phone, burnt it completely for over 3.5 years. Now I use it to record voice overs and calling.
My high end Samsung Android phone that I swicthed to, on the other hand will have long long term support.
So it's great, that old Android phones have so much life. Infact my old phone can still last a fair few years if all I do is calling and social media :)
Nice ending, Anthony. You emphasize the convenience of being able to have fun, over the raw computing power being the key to having fun. I’ll still take my 3DS out, even though I have a Switch. The games are still fun, and the New 3DS is arguably the most ergonomic and well-made, self-preserving handheld there is.
Idk about this I remember the 3ds being the og crab claw console and the new 3ds made it so much worse
I own an Odin and use the d-pad a lot. I assure anyone wondering, the clickiness is very minor and inaudible. It's the perfect amount for tactile feel. It is precise and I am very happy with the d-pad. I agree with it being small though. While it hasn't presented any issues to me since using it, I think it'd be better if it were a little larger.
Hey I ordered one and does it ship with UPS or Fedex? Just asking because I am moving.
@@johnathanflores7750 I live in Australia. I don't know if that makes any difference. Mine was shipped via DHL.
I hope you enjoy your Odin. I love mine. If you like Android, it is awesome.
11:54
Minecraft: *Java Edition* is the horribly unoptimized version, Minecraft: Bedrock (all current console, mobile, and Win10 Edition/Win10 Store) are compiled from the same codebase, -C#- C++ and run _way_ better. So still, you are actually not pushing it to the max, due to how beautifully optimized the mobile edition is.
Came here to say this. Bedrock Edition is actually programmed in C++ though, not C#
mobile isn't beautifully optimized, java is just neglected by M$
Aren't most things on Android running Java anyway?
I was about to say the same thing. Bedrock is _definitely_ optimized and runs quite well on low-powered devices. C'mon now, Anthony!
@@aprofondir android is Java, but i don't think all apps necessarily are
That explains the story thing with the bent screen protector from a week ago, I thought Anthony broke the console!
The dock is actually really smart, and the price in this is actually very competitive.
The Odin is incredible. I've been following it throughout development and it's awesome
This dock is awesome, I was actually more excited about it that the device itself 🤣
Fact check time! Button layout, lettering and colours are far from cursed - they’re ripped directly from the Japanese/European SNES controller.
I'm super happy with the system, I've had mine for a few weeks now.
I still haven't taken the dock out of its box though.
One extra thing I found is that it's capable of game streaming so you can also play real AAA titles like Witcher cyberpunk horizon you get the point. The dock is freaking SICK would definitely but in replacement of having multiple consoles.
2:59 "it feels satiny" somewhere Linus is yelling about eggshell
That Dock has got to be the best selling feature for all retro gamers, I mean those connections are superb. The console itself is also impressive
I always love the retro stuff with Anthony
Another great video from ANTHONY, as an older guy I enjoy seeing these videos as I enjoy retro gaming, even more so for the commute to / from work. as soon as I saw the doc I was sold on this. Being able to throw in a large SSD, network port, multiple USB 3 ports and HDMI Ports is a nice touch. I agree that trying to map a non N64 Controller for n64 emulation ca be a pain in the butt. would be interesting to see if this doc could output to multiple screens using the two HDMI ports, output to two different screens or a HDMI capture card. (not sure why you would want to do that but would be interesting to see in any case) I am. sure there would be a performance hit
Being able to use this in combination with the doc as a inexpensive Plex media server or NAS wouldn't be out of the question.
I've been using a GPH Canoo for years and I've been looking to replace it with another inexpensive device but can emulate more systems then I currently can.
Thanks again Anthony, keep these retro videos coming, I found your video on Composite/Component/Scart converters helpful in making my selection as putting in a dedicated HDMI mod in to each of my retro systems would be costly (But worth it). Maybe you can do a review on ODE mods for retro systems. ODE conversions are a great way to keep a system with a failed optical drive operational and out of a landfill.
"Why is this dock so good?! Why does it have so much I/O?!"
Three words - Windows For ARM. Try loading Windows on it (there's a port already available) and loading Steam on it. Not joking.
when you popped the back off that my jaw dropped because what I saw is what all docks honestly need I know the steam deck has large drives on the ready and SD card slots but I will always gladly add an additional spinning disk or SATA SSD to a system if that part of it isn't for portability, will they release a version that's strictly the dock and is there a way to install Linux on it so you can make it just an all-around PC?
it's a snapdragon 845 soc, meaning it's just a normal phone processor based on arm (though still a really capable one)
you could theoretically get linux on this thing if you want, but it'd be a stripped down arm based OS, not all that helpful
It can run windows but it drops performance running windows
@@julianputnam8290 no it cannot
@@raeedibnzaman1 yes it can run windows
The Snapdragon 845 has very good Linux mainline support (wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Qualcomm_Snapdragon_845_(SDM845)). It should be possible to port it, even though that's probably still a lot of work.
Man I was looking up LTT and could've sworn this video was on there, thank god it showed up on the feed!
Love the review Anthony! Good format and presentation.
I think the Steam Deck docking station is made with some form of portability in mind in case you don't have another powered USB-C hub. It would be much easier to have a SATA to USB enclosure that costs $10 (and that doesn't need screws, is easier to replace and can be used with all compatible devices) than to travel with that kind of full featured dedicated dock of that shape.
Please don't get me wrong, I still think it's a cool dock but it's probably not intended for carry.
I wonder if a third part would develop a Steam Deck dock that has a SATA enclosure built in.
The AYN Odin is honestly the best handheld for most people tbh, it’s able to play all of the great android games (although there is not that much), and more importantly, can play emulators very well like wii and ps2. It’s also small enough to fit in a (big?) pocket
I have an SD855 based Samsung phone and it doesn't handle PS2 via AtherSX all that well honestly so yeah I perosnally wouldn't be running PS2 on the Odin any time soon. So for me the Steam Deck is still the better option at $400 for the BAse model which is honestly all you require for Emulation purposes with all your roms on an sd card.
@@Montisaquadeis steam deck is kinda irrelevant until someone can actually buy it
I guess its pointless lol you can just buy a normal phone for 350$ and boom you have a phone and latest ans greatest performance
@@alexdavis9324 What are you on? People have been buying it left and right and I have seen plenty out in the wild NOT just in the hands of Techtubers like LTT/MKBHD and similar
You honestly want an SD865 or newer for PS2 emulation
I love retro handheld time ☺️ I just got my retroid pocket 2+ in and I finished the initial setup portion and been playing my favorite handheld Zelda game, Minish cap ☺️ having all my cartridges from my childhood on one device has been delightful. Like getting to play Pokémon Emerald again is just delightful.
FINALLY! Ive been waiting for your review of this for AGES
I have the Pro. It is the best retro handheld I've ever had. Plus gamepass works great on it
The weird face button color scheme is from the Super Famicom/ European SNES
Yellow A, red B, green Y and blue X
Anthony. The biggest question wasn't asked: If you removed the plastic front screen cover, would the Steam Deck plug into that and work properly? Like, 64/Cube controller ports AND the drive bay?
The S.D. is likely too thick
No
You'd have to plug it in upside-down I think
I believe purple USB A means higher amperage than standard USB A allows for, e.g. higher than ~3 amps (at 5 volt). It’s usually found on power inverters/chargers and not on cables from my experience, though.
Edit: Looks like purple USB-A plugs don’t exist as a standard plug (or port) color. They’re therefore used proprietarily by manufacturers, often being the equivalent to a Teal USB-A (3.1) plug speed wise, and may be able to handle additional amperage, especially in the case of HUAWEI SuperCharge compatible plugs.
For more in depth, you should check out Taki udon. Especially in retro handhleds and ETA prime in emulation
Cons of the dock: system can overheat when docked, as the rear fan gets completely cut off. Those GameCube ports are upside-down, which means you can't use the WaveBird wireless controllers (good luck making that fit right upside-down). May be coming in a future firmware update, but the 4K HDMI out does not work at all on either of my 2 TVs or 4K monitor (tried 4 different cables. Hopefully not a defect of my dock. 1080p port works just fine).
Some TV's have a setting called "hdmi ultra deep color" or "HDMI UHD color" in the display settings and you might have to turn it on or off. That might get it to work.
@@Justin-xq3ip Appreciate the reply for info! Unfortunately, I have neither of those on my TVs (HDMI 2.1), nor on my 4K PC monitor. I'm beginning to lean more on the issue that I might have a defective dock.
Could you use a wavebird by creating a "riser" under the dock? It's ugly but might be a quick and cheap solution
@@th3oryO I'm probably just going to break into it and gut it, put it into my own 3D printed case (with a fan), and see if I cant put all the ports on the front, and USBs on the side.
That dock got my more excited than the actual device 🤯🤣
I'd like to say that there used to be 5000 and 6000 mAh options but they upgrade everyone to 6600mAh with no extra money.
I've backed the Odin Lite on Indiegogo last Summer, I can't wait to receive my handheld, they are a few months off from original plans but they will eventually be shipped, I chose the Odin over the Steam Deck.
Also yes, the are active cooled and you can install window if you want.
They announced that you will be able to buy spare parts to fix it on your own, you can build your Odin from scratch if you want .
I used to play N64 games with an xbox-like controller. I mapped the C-buttons to the shoulder buttons. Some games were weird but it made playing star fox really comfortable.
7:00 The colours of the ABYX buttons are based off the EU SNES controller and the "New 3DS". Still a bit odd though
They're likely going with Nintendo colors due to the GC ports on the back, similar to how the analog triggers have that little area at the very end where you have to press harder, like the GC controller.
It's not too odd, everyone who bought this device are going to use it for emulation anyways and we all know it's mostly Nintendo games that people are likely to emulate which this layout is perfect for.
Would have been nice to see how the screen protector fit on the device
it really would've. I see no reason why he should've destroyed it. They didn't even make a bit out of it and show the footage of him being dared, so it was a complete waste...
From what I've seen in other reviews and on the Odin subreddit, it fits extremely well. Edge-to-edge, no gaps.
Damn. That's rad. Nice comprehensive review. Thank you!
For anyone wondering about the button colors; that's the same button pattern Japanese/European SNES controllers used. The fact they went for the Nintendo layout instead of the more common Xbox layout is interesting, to say the least.
That dock is amazing, I completely hope valve's dock is serviceable when it launches, that top usb c will be an issue though
i like the top usb-c. When i use my deck, the charging cable doesn't get in the way like it does with the switch.
I think there is reason to not put the steam deck upside down while docked
@@ethan-fel It is better for handheld use, not so much for hooking up to displays
dude the ayn odin deserves its own review. Anthony you really havent scratched the surface of what the odin is capable of
Channels like yours always makes me wanna buy more of these handheld consoles.
I've seen many reviews on this and this was the the most amusing to watch lol. Was fun to watch for sure.
The dock could perhaps have a peltier cooler? So the intake can pull coooold air
and draw more power than the phone itself? lol
@@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart Why not use the rear type c for power?
This handheld is compatible with Windows on ARM as the website says. I would like to see a video trying that out.
Natively compatible on windows?
I have an Odin Pro and my goodness do I love it. Don’t play it nearly as much as I should but it’s honestly awesome even though my R1 doesn’t click (it still registers) but I’ll accept it for a company’s first product. Compared to my other retro handhelds they *nearly* got this one perfect
"I want that!" - Bobby Duke Arts
Anthony, there is an FPS overlay you can enable in the Android admin panel. Also, Steam Link is amazing... I wish you demoed it on this beast!
I wonder if that dock works for other devices, like the Steam Deck and the Switch. Cause if it does then its definitely epic.
I'm pretty sure I've seen people say that it works with the Switch.
Yes it works with the Switch
at 7:08 the colorscheme and order of the buttons is based on the EU SNES controller.
Thanks for clarifying EU. All of these comments about how the colors match the SNES controllers didn't make sense to me in North America, as our controller buttons were purple and a slightly more different purple.
@@jomeyqmalone ha. I actually have a US controller for player two. Fun difference. Also in EU all buttons are convex while on the US one, two are concave
Looks like a great device-re: the sound comparison and stereo separation comment at 14:15 tho, the iPhone was vertical lol
This might be the retro console I've always wanted. The right size and form factor with all the specs you could want. Guess I have something to save for
RETRO TIME!!! Without playing any retro games 😵💫
I have the Odin handheld in my hands currently and it is an amazing device in case anybody is wondering
You can always use a suction cup instead of prying via the screw holes.
Wow! That Super Dock is amazing,it has 2 N64,2 Gamecube controller support,2 HDMI 1080/4K support and 5 USB 3.0 Ports,Type C Input plus you can place a small Hard Drive inside 😱
I was about to buy a Steamdeck despite the fact I love the older stuff better.....and then Anthony shows me this beauty!! Add in a perfect dock and it's already being ordered by me before this video even ended 😁
wasting your money honestly. the Deck can emulate too. really well actually
@@DisturbedPineapple I'm sure it can....but this, especially that amazing dock, is all I'll ever need 👍
@@DisturbedPineapple but does it have a dock?????👀👁👅👁
@@kreamkid275 ...yes...3rd party currently with official coming.
@@dragon2knight this literally does exactly what any halfway decent phone can do. Just buy a dock online and save the money. Honestly if the dock is what you're into then why even bother with portable?
OMG, did he actually miss the fan and overclock profiles in the quick menu 🤦🏽♂️. Additional details, analog triggers, there an option to switch the button layout to Xbox mode. Windows 10 on ARM compatible. C'mon I expect more from you guys!
OMG didy ou not watch the video? He literally opened the fan profiles. He talked about the triggers. Jesus.
@Nick Miller You mean where he clicked the fan profiles, said "I don't think that's a fan" and then screamed at the vent "What are you!?!?!" 🤔
0:52 he's got shiny glass shards on his shirt immediately after breaking the glass 😂
I was lucky enough to get in when they had the $199 Base Superfan Deal. It’s really great at that price. Had it since February.
What an interesting Device,however i would probably wait for version 2 of it
Why?
Instead of comparing it to the steam deck or switch, you should compare it to a phone with controller attached.
Can your phone run Linux or Windows 11? Both the Odin and the Steamdeck can.
That's the big problem to me with these devices. There are already tons of Snapdragon 845 based phones in the world, and you can get network locked ones for next to nothing to use as a dedicated gaming handheld if you want
@@jomeyqmalone Plus for that price you can get smartphone with better specs.
I got Xaomi Poco X3 pro with SDG860 for the same price.
@@Sevent77 I think you are missing the point, your poco X3 may be faster, but it won't be able to sustain that performance for longer as it doesn't have any cooling.
This device can sustain it's performance for longer, and with it's built-in overclocking, it can perform closer to 855-865 at expense of battery.
Running 845 has some pros as well, windows and Linux support this chip, so you can install those OS as well
@@thelookofdisapproval8234 And I think you're overestimated what this 845 oc can do, for one the 845 GPU runs at 787 while 860 runs at 750 so it is slightly faster but the 860 has more computing units not to mention other specs that make the 860 superior.
And while true that my X3 will thermal throttle that's not a big issue as both devices will power throttle sooner since both CPU and GPU are on the same chip
So the only time when you'll see the boosted GPU speed is if the CPU runs at less than 20%, anything higher and the GPU will be starved for power and forced to dowclock.
845 is in that weird spot where it has barely enough power to run some PS2, GC games but far too much power to run everything else, so that oc and active cooling aren't fully taken advantage of IMHO.
I’ve been waiting forever for this thing to arrive, but they’ve had numerous delays due to the lockdowns in China.
On the plus side, their team has done an incredible job of keeping backers in the loop with weekly communications each Friday.
Got the anbernic rg552 for my kid, it's good enough for general emulation, does android or linux. The dock for this is a game changer though, it means not needing to swap memory cards for roms like the anbernic devices, and even faster read/load speeds for cd/dvd based games.
The most shocking part of this video is that Anthony has an iPhone. I always felt like he'd be the type to want full autonomy over his devices.
Apple has awful autonomy and repairability, but is often very capable and there are a lot of useful productivity tools where the android equivalent just doesn't measure up (or doesn't exist), to my understanding. Also, if you want anything to be private or secure ever? Android is not the way to go. Much as Apple also uses it as an excuse to 'justify' a lot of their anti-consumer nonsense, they do actually put a fair bit of effort into the whole 'user privacy' thing.
Don't get me wrong, Apple's a terrible company and I refuse to give them money ever... but the only reason I don't put Android stuff in the same 'do not even think about buying' pile is the lack of available alternatives (like, custom building a Raspberry Pi based system is looking to be the most viable alternative at this point, which is... um... well, it says Something about the current state of the market...)
@@laurencefraser To be fair, it's not like Android phones give you that autonomy either. Even if you manage to get a "de-googled" device, you still can't install whatever you want on them. There's no such thing as a BIOS for ARM devices. Also Linux is still pretty limited for mobile, and you'd still need to use a few popular (yet defective/invasive) apps if you want to stay in touch with some muggles (i.e. Whatsapp).
9:21 i disagree i think one more usb port is much more useful because you could use it for extra storage or something else.
Sata is more useful because it's like 10 times the speed
@@pilotavery I don't think that really matters that much for game library.
@@pilotavery also Like they could add usb 3.1 port which is faster than sata if i remember correctly.
@@nebulous962 the actual throughput in sequential is actually faster on USB 3.1, but it's much much slower for hard drives because of the latency of the controller.
USB is only faster when copying large files, when a program requests to read a file there's a much larger delay though before it starts reading it so it's actually slower when you're booting off of it, like 100 times slower.
It’s an interesting device for sure. Seems more versatile than my current setup of attaching a Backbone controller to an iPhone XR and using that sparingly to play Xbox Gamepass, Steam Link, and Stadia while I wait for my Steam deck preorder
While I am not so enamoured with the hand-held as I don't generally game on the move, that dock looks like a great way to turn an old phone into a retro powerhouse. Since it connects via USB C it should be compatible with any relatively modern handsets.