The new KING of Emulation [AYN Odin]

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  • čas pƙidĂĄn 16. 06. 2024
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    0:00 Intro / Overview
    3:52 What to expect when you take it out of the box
    5:00 Physical attributes (size and feel)
    6:37 Android UI
    7:13 GPU Performance toggle
    8:44 Putting ROMs on here
    9:47 Emulation Performance (GameCube, N64, PS2, 3DS)
    14:19 Game Pass Streaming
    14:59 Native Android game + touch controls
    15:25 Dock
    17:38 Conclusion
    18:52 Different versions & value
    21:21 How to set it up (recap)
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  • @williampickering356
    @williampickering356 Pƙed 2 lety +579

    I think the reason some emulators ran terribly at first but worked fine on subsequent runs is because of texture caching. Sometimes it just needs to be cached to run smoothly

    • @johnbillings5260
      @johnbillings5260 Pƙed 2 lety +7

      This.

    • @derdonerdruide2714
      @derdonerdruide2714 Pƙed 2 lety +6

      ^ completly right.

    • @hawshimagical
      @hawshimagical Pƙed 2 lety +3

      how do you know when to reset the emulator for a smooth experience?

    • @poptranslate5908
      @poptranslate5908 Pƙed 2 lety +23

      @@hawshimagical Everytime there is a new action or animation for the first time, it will lag (because the emulator hasn't seen and loaded the shaders) and then it will run smoothly, you just need to give time to the animations to load.

    • @igorbog88
      @igorbog88 Pƙed 2 lety +3

      no, the reason is because it's a terrible low power device

  • @xt6997
    @xt6997 Pƙed 2 lety +288

    The reason why citra is not good when playing for the first time is because it needs to cache; think of this like a save file for the emulator to help the game perform more smoothly the next time you play it. Im pretty sure this also happens on the pc and mac versions as well.

    • @shlokshah5379
      @shlokshah5379 Pƙed 2 lety +3

      Even in Wii U and swich that happens

    • @billblaski9523
      @billblaski9523 Pƙed 2 lety

      I do I cache it then?

    • @xt6997
      @xt6997 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@billblaski9523 on android use the back button then choose exit from game, it screws with muscle memory ik.

  • @GeorgeMcF
    @GeorgeMcF Pƙed 2 lety +175

    15:31 You actually can remove the front glass panel pretty easily, its a little stiff but it comes right off.

    • @cristoff30
      @cristoff30 Pƙed 2 lety +19

      A little stiff you say? Noice!

    • @elohym876
      @elohym876 Pƙed 2 lety +10

      @@cristoff30 When you make such juvenile jokes, it makes it HARD to take you seriously...

    • @SachielxLAEx
      @SachielxLAEx Pƙed 2 lety +11

      @@elohym876 hehe.. hard

    • @charlesli1227
      @charlesli1227 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      i was gonna leave the same comment

    • @dsgamecube
      @dsgamecube Pƙed 2 lety +2

      Also, it's acrylic, not glass.

  • @aloooo8509
    @aloooo8509 Pƙed 2 lety +1036

    I swear to god every week there's a new "emulation king"

    • @jayhdgaf
      @jayhdgaf Pƙed 2 lety +40

      because everyone making one

    • @markmystery3536
      @markmystery3536 Pƙed 2 lety +114

      Wait until the Steam Deck comes out, it will be the real king here

    • @lucho3410
      @lucho3410 Pƙed 2 lety +109

      @@markmystery3536 true but this device looks super sleek and clean, the steam deck looks busy and complicated and heavy looking

    • @jayhdgaf
      @jayhdgaf Pƙed 2 lety +7

      @@markmystery3536 indeed im just hoping its going to be able to fortnite and call of duty

    • @malisa71
      @malisa71 Pƙed 2 lety +38

      @MEfoo I mean, Steam Deck is, in fact, a pc.
      While this is an android device with limited usability.

  • @ChronikSpartan
    @ChronikSpartan Pƙed 2 lety +396

    It's a new Golden Age for handhelds...

    • @arnudo
      @arnudo Pƙed 2 lety +8

      And we love it !

    • @Shoeboxcat7
      @Shoeboxcat7 Pƙed 2 lety +26

      It's getting very, VERY exciting. Faster chips, OLED screens, ergonomics, battery life, haptic feedback. And absolutely fantastic selection of emulators to choose from, it's all coming together nicely.
      With more and more companies trying to outclass each other, the proverbial snowball of innovation is now picking up in everyone's favor. Now to get supply back in check for the undoubtedly increase in demand...

    • @ParanoidThalyyMVS
      @ParanoidThalyyMVS Pƙed 2 lety +8

      There has been a resurgence since 2017, the Retro Mini (re)starting it all. :)

    • @Green____T
      @Green____T Pƙed 2 lety +1

      I hope this ages poorly but I’ll enjoy it while I can

    • @diegovasquez9184
      @diegovasquez9184 Pƙed 2 lety +5

      @@Green____T why?

  • @godminnette2
    @godminnette2 Pƙed 2 lety +251

    Bob, FYI - on android, the best DS emulator by a large margin is Drastic, not any of the Retroarch cores. It may be a few bucks, but trust me, it's worth it.

    •  Pƙed 2 lety +10

      MelonDS is better I think. And it's free

    • @astraldreamz1556
      @astraldreamz1556 Pƙed 2 lety +42

      MelonDS is still in development. It's getting seriously better, but still for now, DraStic stands out for being the best and most well optimised android ds Emulator

    • @losttechwetlights7493
      @losttechwetlights7493 Pƙed 2 lety

      Drastic sux

    • @bulletpunch9317
      @bulletpunch9317 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @ dont just think, try it.

    • @allhandsonsteamdeck1440
      @allhandsonsteamdeck1440 Pƙed 2 lety +6

      I already canceled my steam deck order for this baby I can't wait

  • @jeffrossbach695
    @jeffrossbach695 Pƙed 2 lety +201

    Bob never disappoints with his sponsor ads

    • @allenfrisch
      @allenfrisch Pƙed 2 lety +18

      He’s seriously the only CZcamsr for whom I enthusiastically sit through his ads. Sometimes they are the BEST PART of the video!

    • @Miss-Foe
      @Miss-Foe Pƙed 2 lety +3

      I like how I can quickly go “oh this doesn’t apply to me, I can skip this guilt free” with this one.

    • @daltonbroderson6529
      @daltonbroderson6529 Pƙed 2 lety +4

      Neither will you if you buy roman 😉

    • @nojuanatall3281
      @nojuanatall3281 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      Internet historian also has great ads...

  • @keiz_
    @keiz_ Pƙed 2 lety +128

    Bob just so you know with the dock you can remove the front plastic actually. You just need to be a bit careful pulling it off. Also the dock has a Sata 2.5 inch drive slot in the back half!! So you can store larger games on the sata drive.
    I ordered the Pro and I'm super excited to get it. You can get an upgrade to 256gb, but really I think an SD card will be more than enough for cheap large storage. The difference between the base and Pro is more storage (without paying for upgrade for base), and 8gb of ram instead of 4gb.

    • @brandon_nope
      @brandon_nope Pƙed 2 lety +14

      A DRIVE SLOT WHAT

    • @JackOusley
      @JackOusley Pƙed 2 lety +9

      @@brandon_nope yeah it's pretty cool, have those big modern libraries in the dock :)

    • @KyleRuggles
      @KyleRuggles Pƙed 2 lety +8

      @@JackOusley Yeah! slap in a 4tb 2.5 drive and booyah! It's all done.

  • @stowawaybanjo
    @stowawaybanjo Pƙed 2 lety +54

    This device makes me want to grab Nintendo by the ears and shout into their greedy eyeballs, “Stop effing around with NSO, and start releasing GC, Wii, and WiiU games.” It’s a wasted library that could totally justify the $50 annual fee for the NSO+ even if they trickle the games in at 1-3 a month.

    • @TheDevilDucker
      @TheDevilDucker Pƙed 2 lety +6

      Nintendo: BUY OUR NSO EXPANSION PACK + DELUXE PACK FOR WII AND WII U GAMES

    • @JGLCSW
      @JGLCSW Pƙed 2 lety +17

      That's all of our fault for our continuous support of them. We've enabled Nintendo for ages. They do the bare minimum and we still throw money at them. Stop buying their shit like we did in the Wii U era (ironically that system did a lot of things very right) and watch them magically change their tune.

    • @thelanecampbell
      @thelanecampbell Pƙed 2 lety +3

      If Nintendo has demonstrated anything with their recent emulated back library on the switch the delay for more titles is to give themselves time to screw up the game experience enough so that they continue to push gamers to retro consoles.

    • @maitiurice
      @maitiurice Pƙed 2 lety +2

      I literally bought a switch because I thought Nintendo would be smart enough to realize the retro gaming gold they had. Nope. NSO was ok, but jot the deep library I was hoping for. The funny thing is by not giving us a way to pay for these games, specifically the ones we want and not random ass Japanese games that hold zero nostalgia for me, they only encourage the theft.

  • @xlatinredx
    @xlatinredx Pƙed 2 lety +31

    Incredible video, Bob. Might have finally sold me on getting myself a seperate emulation machine that isn't my phone. I'm almost as excited to get it as I was for my switch.

  • @teomanefe
    @teomanefe Pƙed 2 lety +43

    Genshin not having controller support on Android is honestly annoying as heck. And miHoYo doesn't seem to care, the game only had 120 fps support on Iphones, NOT EVEN THE PC.

    • @MoeMcIntyre
      @MoeMcIntyre Pƙed 2 lety +4

      Agreed, especially since it was announced at the same time as the iPhone controller support. What's worse is that button mapping software is against the terms of service so you could be banned if it's discovered you're using that to get a controller working with Android, which is ridiculous seeing as they don't seem to care about offering that support themselves.
      Wonder what's gonna come first, that controller support or the Switch version?

  • @rashad123us
    @rashad123us Pƙed 2 lety +6

    I literally just found out these were a thing the other week after watching one of your videos, then I found out about this last week, and now it’s my first retro emulation device. Couldn’t be happier, this thing just works.

  • @pmlabowicz3903
    @pmlabowicz3903 Pƙed 2 lety +20

    I've never owned a portable emulator, aside from DS on my phone. But I've been considering one for a long time, I think this may be the one. I've definitely wanted something I can play retro as well as some newer games on, and use it for streaming.

  • @failfurby
    @failfurby Pƙed 2 lety +19

    Those 2 HDMI outs on the dock tell me they put a lot of extra thought into it. Now it can be not just for game streaming but also for streaming your gameplay to TTV or YT. The LACK OF A CHEAP AND SMALL FAN blowing onto the back of the device in the dock tells me they didn't put the RIGHT thoughts into it. But that is what betas, reviews, and feedback are for. Hopefully they do a quick revision of the dock in the not-too-distant future.

    • @rajgill7576
      @rajgill7576 Pƙed 2 lety +5

      Also the screen stays on when docked? Lol who needs that

  • @steamedyam
    @steamedyam Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Looks actually really cool wasn’t expecting much from these types also your ads are perfect

  • @Rapsappeal
    @Rapsappeal Pƙed 2 lety

    hey Wulff Den! you`re doing a great job man...i i i just recently stumbled across your channel and as a switch owner and absolute snes lover your channel is just a "that childhood feeling" trigger^^

  • @lionelt.9124
    @lionelt.9124 Pƙed 2 lety +24

    Some folks are running Windows 11 and playing Steam PC games on the pro unit. It seems to be GPU bound with the CPU only at around 60%. It's a bit limited but I'm still amazed at what it can run on Windows.

    • @atonegames
      @atonegames Pƙed 2 lety

      So, you can play Wow Classic on this? if you know how to map. I saw someone do that with moonlight on a swtich.

    • @bionicgeekgrrl
      @bionicgeekgrrl Pƙed 2 lety

      You are confusing this arm based android device with a x86 based Windows device. You cannot run Windows 11 or steam games on this device, though you can probably use the steam link app I guess.

    • @bionicgeekgrrl
      @bionicgeekgrrl Pƙed 2 lety

      @@atonegames Lionel is confusing this with another device

    • @begottenbaker
      @begottenbaker Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@bionicgeekgrrl no, actually you can. All it takes is one CZcams search to see how it works

  • @MisterDrumsNoob
    @MisterDrumsNoob Pƙed 2 lety +24

    The lite is great for dreamcast, psp, nintendo 64, and even gamecube and ps2... it's close to the base and pro in performance, actually

  • @tommygeary1931
    @tommygeary1931 Pƙed 2 lety +25

    The Lite does not have a significantly shittier CPU, actually on it's 2 high performance cores it should outperform the SD845. It may have a worse GPU, but the D900 has been tested to run gamecube just fine

    • @frankgago79
      @frankgago79 Pƙed 2 lety

      I check several compsrisons between snapdragon and D900 and it seems quite similar, in fact in some features D900 has a better performance. Paying some extra bucks you can get a better ram and storage, that makes feel Lite like a Pro. Crossing fingers Lite version could support PS2 emulation too

    • @kreamkid275
      @kreamkid275 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@frankgago79 not likely as powerful as the base or pro but some games will run

  • @CrimsonStrider
    @CrimsonStrider Pƙed 2 lety +2

    That Roman ad was great. Great job. I love when people put effort into making sponsored parts fun to watch.

  • @BlenderGoat
    @BlenderGoat Pƙed 2 lety +14

    This is why I wait for Bob's review on certain tech. He'll rip it apart to the T if there is absolutely any deal breakers. But, I guess I should look into fitting this in the budget this year.

  • @iamtofuboy
    @iamtofuboy Pƙed 2 lety +54

    Weirdly, the Dimensity 900 actually offers similar benchmark performance to the SD845 and has smaller transistors at 6nm so theoretically should also be more power efficient.

    • @MrNobodylikesyou
      @MrNobodylikesyou Pƙed 2 lety +13

      Think the lite version also has wifi 6 as well the others dont

    • @Kiahona
      @Kiahona Pƙed 2 lety +11

      Yeah I think the lite is just knocking out the windows compatibility
      It's practically the same CPU though
      The mediatek dimensity was released either this year or last
      And the 845 is like 3 years old.
      I think it's the exact same performance just mediatek took a little bit longer to get there so it is a more modern chip supporting more modern features like wifi 6

    • @keiz_
      @keiz_ Pƙed 2 lety +11

      The biggest thing with the mediatek is just driver compatibility overall

    • @chocho2188
      @chocho2188 Pƙed 2 lety +6

      I think the dimensity one has better battery optimization and single core performance. The owner of ayn told me that the lite is geared towards streaming, hence the wifi 6 where as the base and pro are more for emulation since SD has more developer support and can also run windows on arm etc. The only difference between pro and base is the ram really but they should perform about the same I would think.

    • @realzob
      @realzob Pƙed 2 lety +1

      probably because the sd845 was throtling inside smartphones wich limited its performances. It can run at more than full speed inside the odin, so, those benchmark won't be that close between odin base/pro and odin lite. I'd expect a very noticeable drop in performance with the lite one, because of the weaker cpu/gpu and the less commonly used GPU that implies that most emulators probably doesn't have been as much optimised for yet.

  • @peterd7009
    @peterd7009 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Thanks for a great review. I ordered the 256gb transparent purple Odin Pro. Looking forward to it playing some ESPN NFL 2K5, the best NFL video game of all time.

  • @thrillhouse198x
    @thrillhouse198x Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Was already thinking about getting this, definitely don’t need it but i might have to. Damn. Also a raise is deserved for the end joke of the ad, A+ stuff.

  • @sleepinglionarchives
    @sleepinglionarchives Pƙed 2 lety +3

    This was incredibly helpful, man, thanks. Looks like a fun device!

  • @godminnette2
    @godminnette2 Pƙed 2 lety +60

    Also, Citra does a lot of caching, which means that certain animations/effects that play the first time cause a lot of slowdown, then never again. I experience something similar with Ryujinx - whenever a game plays a unique animation for the very first time, the game slows to a crawl. Whenever that animation ever plays again, even if I've closed the emulator, there's no performance dip. This was a little annoying when I played through Legends Arceus and a Noble Pokemon used an attack for the first time.

    • @monkeygameplay5455
      @monkeygameplay5455 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      go get a 3ds it's so worth it

    • @godminnette2
      @godminnette2 Pƙed 2 lety +14

      @@monkeygameplay5455 I own a 3DS. Not everyone who emulates doesn't own the system and games they play. The only time I've emulated 3DS was trying to play a romhack of Omega Ruby.

    • @monkeygameplay5455
      @monkeygameplay5455 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@godminnette2 oh i see romhacks work on 3ds i think but only on hombrew

  • @atrielienz
    @atrielienz Pƙed 2 lety +3

    This video and others made my decision on which portable emulator to buy. I like the look and the UI. I'm pretty happy I can dock it, but that's not a deal breaker for me. The lite model will do what I want pretty easily, and if I can get it to work with steamlink, it'll be my go to.

  • @heyitsburt
    @heyitsburt Pƙed 2 lety

    Hopefully AYN sees this and sends you the other models to test and compare... Great content and thanks!

  • @KyleRuggles
    @KyleRuggles Pƙed 2 lety +6

    I'm so psyched for this, got the transparent purple base the day of, I hope I get it soon! I'd prefer this over the steam deck, portable, I can game stream the AAA titles to it... analog shoulder buttons so I can FINALLY play my racing games and the back buttons for macro's. I can't wait! I would love to root this thing, switch the physical A/B buttons and remove the little task manager switcher line when in full screen, that'll annoy me after a while.
    You can remove the glass off the dock, I can't wait! lol!

  • @elimalinsky7069
    @elimalinsky7069 Pƙed 2 lety +20

    Regular DS emulation ran choppy?
    What?!
    DraStic runs all games flawlessly on hardware much weaker than the SD 845. Every other DS emulator on Android is put to shame by it.

    • @danielalorbi
      @danielalorbi Pƙed 2 lety +3

      Yeah, something is off here. DraStic is super performant. There's no way the Odin can't run it, especially if it runs GameCube this well.

    • @elimalinsky7069
      @elimalinsky7069 Pƙed 2 lety +3

      @@danielalorbi He says in the video that he used Retroarch for DS emulation. AFAIK, there's no DraStic core for RA, only a standalone version. I have no idea what kind of core this is.

    • @skhndkchannel
      @skhndkchannel Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Yeah, this is bit weird, i still play my DS games with Drastic, on very old tablet that has ancient A7 Mtk SoC, newer and latest Soc shouldnt have problem running Drastic.

  • @jasonyoung6420
    @jasonyoung6420 Pƙed 2 lety +10

    Oh man, this might get me to finally pick up an emulator... I've been wanting something, but there is a lot of faffing about once you get the unit to make it work, this one is approaching the level of ready out of the box that I want.

  • @WhostheMAC1
    @WhostheMAC1 Pƙed 2 lety

    Just ordered mine, Can't wait to get into it! Thanks for the Overview.

  • @J0kerHecz
    @J0kerHecz Pƙed 2 lety +14

    "You had my curiosity but now you have my attention"
    Something to replace my Vita for emulation as well as my phone for gaming!? And the size of a Switch Lite too! Definitely buying this.

    • @ak8911
      @ak8911 Pƙed rokem

      is it worth it? does it have psp games?

  • @sludgebuster9677
    @sludgebuster9677 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Incidentally, there's option in Retroarch settings just to swap buttons A and B around. When I use Switch for awhile I struggle using XBox Controls and end up pressing B when I meant to be pressing A. So I do the Retroarch reverse button option which helps. It looks like Odin has XBox setup.

  • @Solaris502
    @Solaris502 Pƙed 2 lety

    iv been waiting for this. iv seen some other reviewers looking at this but i always way for you to do your review. i just like your format and humor.

  • @SideBurn12
    @SideBurn12 Pƙed rokem

    Goddammit, 3:08 had me in tears. All alone in my apartment. AND ITS A GODDAMN AD!
    Well done, Wulf. Well done.

  • @mpalen19
    @mpalen19 Pƙed 2 lety +4

    Taki Udon has videos running Steam games with a Windows installation on this thing. Pretty cool IMO. I have too many devices to be interested but it’s nice to see where this is going.

  • @zachcarmichael699
    @zachcarmichael699 Pƙed 2 lety +11

    The Lite model has two advantages. 1) Newer version of Android (11 versus 10 on the Pro). 2) Wi-Fi 6 and Bluetooth 5.2 versus AC and 5.0 on the Pro. The second one might be noteworthy because it means faster, more stable streaming speeds for things like Game Pass.

    • @rodneyrodriguezsoberal5522
      @rodneyrodriguezsoberal5522 Pƙed 2 lety

      The cpu is horrible compared to the snapdragon

    • @lottabee
      @lottabee Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@rodneyrodriguezsoberal5522 Really? Do you have any relevant benchmarks you could share? Most of the ones I've seen have shown that the performance on the SD845 is slightly better due to the optimization of the chip throughout the years. The Dimensity 900 is still quite a new chip with a lot of headroom to be optimized and processor wise it seemed quite similar in performance to the SD845.

    • @rodneyrodriguezsoberal5522
      @rodneyrodriguezsoberal5522 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@lottabee no benchmark I can give you at the moment. The sd is better I just can't tell you how much at this exact moment give me s second

    • @lottabee
      @lottabee Pƙed 2 lety

      ​@@rodneyrodriguezsoberal5522 All good 👍

    • @SergipeCycling
      @SergipeCycling Pƙed 2 lety +2

      @@lottabee D900 is a really capable SoC, watch latest Taki Udon's video running emulators on Odin Lite, it's really surprising.

  • @lax9586
    @lax9586 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I am most def getting one of these. I have been waiting for a handheld like this for a long time.

  • @TheMattLuigi
    @TheMattLuigi Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Very big step for emulation! Seems like a awesome upgrade for my GPD XD Plus. However I am getting a Steam Deck this year so I’m going to wait on this one for now.

  • @exzisd
    @exzisd Pƙed rokem +5

    This is the most appealing of the non mainstream devices I've seen. If I don't get a Steam Deck I'd pick this over other options. Looks sleek and size and shape is great.

  • @disky01
    @disky01 Pƙed 2 lety +10

    Damn. This thing looks amazing, but I've already got a Steam Deck reserved. If it were a little cheaper I'd get one for sure. Thanks for this review Bob, it's really encouraging to see someone making great devices like this!

    • @calmax7954
      @calmax7954 Pƙed 2 lety

      Can steam deck run emulators?

    • @disky01
      @disky01 Pƙed 2 lety +4

      @@calmax7954 It's essentially a handheld PC, so yes it can. It comes with SteamOS installed by default, and I'm not sure how that's going to work with non-Valve software, but you can always install a different OS, including Windows.

    • @calmax7954
      @calmax7954 Pƙed 2 lety +3

      @@disky01 thanks for info

    • @rustyjayz
      @rustyjayz Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci

      @@calmax7954 Yep

  • @ReadGameCraftCook
    @ReadGameCraftCook Pƙed 2 lety

    Just ordered one of these this morning, can’t wait to try it :)

  • @BlackCanvasAudio
    @BlackCanvasAudio Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Well done! This is the best review I've seen yet! I really want this but the Steam Deck is literally days away.

  • @DiskCart
    @DiskCart Pƙed 2 lety +18

    The DOCK on this beast is bonkers. I kind of love how many crazy ports that thing is holding.

    • @slaingirlfound
      @slaingirlfound Pƙed 2 lety +1

      I totally agree. The only thing missing is a microwave.

    • @DiskCart
      @DiskCart Pƙed 2 lety +3

      @@slaingirlfound AGREED they really left that out. Clearly this could use a microwave maybe a fridge too?

    • @slaingirlfound
      @slaingirlfound Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@DiskCart That's hysterical!! Wishing you and yours good health and prosperity in the New Year! Happy Gaming!!!

  • @rm13evm
    @rm13evm Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Yay Bob got one!!!
    This thing is amazing I love mine.

  • @eambot
    @eambot Pƙed 2 lety

    First video of yours ive seen and i gotta say.... Good shit dude. exactly what i was looking for start to finish. Thanks!! subbed!

  • @DopeKing
    @DopeKing Pƙed 2 lety

    Thanks for the informative video. Well, about the super dock, you can remove the front plate so you're able to use the touch, and in the back you can remove the plate with four screws and install a 2.5'' HDD inside if you want, I don't know about a SSD, but it should be fine too, also you can use it on other devices.

  • @gooseshaye
    @gooseshaye Pƙed 2 lety +6

    This looks awesome! I think i'll go with the lite as I'll primary use it for game pass and the easier to run emulators. Great review Bob!

    • @onion_____
      @onion_____ Pƙed 2 lety

      Might as well use your phone

    • @gooseshaye
      @gooseshaye Pƙed 2 lety +2

      @@onion_____ game pass sucks on ios, and i'd rather have physical controls

  • @TheNetops07
    @TheNetops07 Pƙed 2 lety +5

    As already noted, the D900 will surprise you if you look into what it can do. Folks are also overlooking that the D900 supports Wifi6, so from a streaming perspective the Lite is actually better.

  • @DrMarioDDS
    @DrMarioDDS Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Aaaaaand this video is the sole reason I just backed these guys on Indigogo. One AYN Odin Pro coming up. Thanks Bob.

  • @tonyanthonyironman4352
    @tonyanthonyironman4352 Pƙed 2 lety

    I'm really impressed with this review video about that device. I'll be looking forward to buying one

  • @Majextic
    @Majextic Pƙed 2 lety +16

    I don't have one, but apparently the new version of the Retroid 2 can run Gamecube/PS2 and some Wii which is pretty neat

  • @zanmaru139
    @zanmaru139 Pƙed 2 lety +8

    First of all, if you have ED problems, talk to your primary care doctor, not some shady website.
    Device looks interesting though. Joycons are hardly the gold standard for controls but that's not a deal breaker.

  • @kurtkaufmann8885
    @kurtkaufmann8885 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    I've been waiting so long for this video and it was well worth the wait. As always a very unbiased review with an honest opinion. Thank you for testing all these emulation devices out so we don't have to.

  • @ethel72
    @ethel72 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    This looks a lot better than I was expecting, but I think you have made me jaded about the portable emulators

  • @keyholes
    @keyholes Pƙed 2 lety +91

    I'm more intrigued by this than the Steam Deck. This looks actually portable. The SD looks too big and heavy to be comfortable to hold for a good length of game time. (Bear in mind I have fun health stuff going on which gives me weaker hands.) This looks like a retro-friendly Switch. Colour me interested.

    • @davidnotonstinnett
      @davidnotonstinnett Pƙed 2 lety +11

      The fact that it is actually a handheld, as you described, and the price point makes this thing really interesting for sure. I have a Steam Deck preordered but I may get this as well. I have a gaming PC and a decent internet setup, so do I really need a Steam Deck when I could get something like this and stream my games?
      It’s an interesting proposition.

    • @Senorgrav
      @Senorgrav Pƙed 2 lety +3

      It’s really worth it. It does everything that was advertised and honestly is so good all around. Battery life is a tank to. I got mine 2 weeks ago and it’s been awesome

    • @SirNarax
      @SirNarax Pƙed 2 lety +5

      In fairness to the Steam Deck form factor is not all the marbles if it was I don't think nearly as many people would have bought the switch, that thing isn't that comfortable to use and this won't be that great either (just based on the button placement). It is also not really that portable. Can't really put it in a pocket like a phone so it still has to be bagged somehow. Steam Deck in many or most other regards is just going to be more capable. You are not spending more for nothing.

    • @FamousWolfe
      @FamousWolfe Pƙed 2 lety +5

      Have you seen actual reviews of the Steam Deck that have been coming out these past several days? The Steam Deck's grips are FLAWLESS and evenly distribute the weight so well that you don't notice the weight.

    • @Senorgrav
      @Senorgrav Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@FamousWolfe ain’t the steam deck really shit tho. Like it’s so incomplete out of the box. I understand steam deck is at work tweaking all the rough edges and making games better but it really doesn’t look casual consumer friendly

  • @irrayplaceable1858
    @irrayplaceable1858 Pƙed 2 lety +6

    " I didnt want him to come inside" - Bob 2022 😂

  • @elvispayet1932
    @elvispayet1932 Pƙed 2 lety

    Oh man your Roman ad explanations really made my day XD

  • @nateeverett1646
    @nateeverett1646 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I’ve never picked one of theses things up, but you convinced me, I just ordered the translucent purple pro

    • @Nev182mang
      @Nev182mang Pƙed 2 lety

      Nice! Any idea how long it will take to receive it?

  • @CellsPerfect
    @CellsPerfect Pƙed 2 lety +5

    I need to find me a portable pocketable handheld. Do miss them. I'll keep searching and will definitely carry it with me everywhere

    • @cloudshad0ws
      @cloudshad0ws Pƙed 2 lety +1

      I got a Retroid Pocket 2+ and it's great. Perfect size too, fits right in pocket.

  • @dugtrioramen
    @dugtrioramen Pƙed 2 lety +9

    For DS emulation you want DraStic. Yes it's paid, but it's an absolute miracle how well that emulator can run on any device. Even very old and week phones can run DraStic so well, as if it was a simple Gameboy game
    And for citra, I think citra for Android has shader compilation issues, so it'll usually run bad the first time, but run better after that

    • @SNDTX
      @SNDTX Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Why do i have to pay for an emulator?

    • @D3sdinova
      @D3sdinova Pƙed 2 lety

      Yup, worked wonderfully on my SEX play even. They probably improved it a lot by now too.

    • @dugtrioramen
      @dugtrioramen Pƙed 2 lety

      @@SNDTX cuz developers have to make money somehow. Making an emulator is an extremely time consuming task, and considering how good it is I think it's 100% deserves money

  • @ahmedp8009
    @ahmedp8009 Pƙed 2 lety

    I LOVE IT!
    I will order one now!!
    Superb review, Thanks

  • @jordanrand8377
    @jordanrand8377 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    This thing is awesome! Keep up the great work!

  • @tri0xin
    @tri0xin Pƙed 2 lety +4

    Pretty awesome! I'm all about minimizing so I like to have one device. Although if you went with a razer kishi for your phone you would have to technically carry 2 'things'. Anyway.. a razer kishi is $50 now(renewed amazon) which can transform anyone's smartphone into something similar to the odin. In fact you could buy a renewed PIxel 3 for $120/renewed or a pixel 3xl for $140 renewed and you'd be under $200 with the same snapdragon 845(i think) as whats in the odin.. plus you'd have Android 12 just like the new Pixel 6... I rambled :(

  • @a9udn9u
    @a9udn9u Pƙed 2 lety +9

    How do you know the Lite will perform worse? It's a 2021 midrange vs 2018 flagship situation, I don't think it's going to be a bloodwash for either side, besides, the 6nm chip in the Lite should have better battery life than the 10nm SD845

  • @Razor_Burn
    @Razor_Burn Pƙed 2 lety

    Good to see you on the Odin train Bob! ;)

  • @exodous02
    @exodous02 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Man, PS2 and GameCube. It has been a LONG time coming but it is here. It has been here a while on high end phones but there aren't a lot of phones that have a fan. ARM CPUs are powerful without a fan but a fan helps a lot, like doubling the performance in some cases.

  • @wisewords8972
    @wisewords8972 Pƙed 2 lety +34

    Drastic is #1 for emulating Nds games on Android. I'm not sure why CZcamsrs like this guy ignore it. I've been using it for years and it runs everything flawlessly on my S21 plus Android cell. I even converted my old LG Stylo 4 into a DS emulator using Drastic because of the stylus. Even with a snap dragon 455 chip set, it runs everything flawlessly.

    • @raihanlazuardi6632
      @raihanlazuardi6632 Pƙed 2 lety +6

      hey even with sd410 and 1gb of ram, Drastic still runs perfect and amazing

    • @flick2flick
      @flick2flick Pƙed rokem

      I ran across your comment and I can confirm that Drastic is AMAZING!! Currently playing heart gold and soulsilver with zero issues. Runs absolutely smooth on my s21 ultra.

    • @raihanlazuardi6632
      @raihanlazuardi6632 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@flick2flick yes drastic is so optimized that it'll run on low end devices without any problem and slowing

    • @flick2flick
      @flick2flick Pƙed rokem

      @@raihanlazuardi6632 Do you know if Drastic is also used on the actual DS device when brewed? If not, is there a way to transport my heartgold save file from my 21 ultra to the DS?

    • @raihanlazuardi6632
      @raihanlazuardi6632 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@flick2flick hmm unfortunately I'm not into technical stuff so I don't know

  • @EpicAdrian3D
    @EpicAdrian3D Pƙed 2 lety +57

    Id actually buy this one. It's gonna be awesome to have a dedicated android gaming device that can run whatever I want.

    • @jjglaser
      @jjglaser Pƙed 2 lety +9

      Probably better than a phone because phones have a skinny long aspect ratio.

    • @psp4gamer
      @psp4gamer Pƙed 2 lety +1

      After knowing which processor this thing was running, i felt a bit confused.... i just add a Razer Kishi to my note 9 and that's it? Im not sure about the 845 future support....

    • @shaydesofblue2281
      @shaydesofblue2281 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      You can play Android games on an Android phone with a controller. Lol

    • @shlokshah5379
      @shlokshah5379 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@psp4gamer don't do that because games eat your storage and your main phone will be full

    • @shlokshah5379
      @shlokshah5379 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@shaydesofblue2281 wow know one would know that!!
      A phone battery lasts for 2 hours for top tier emulation like wii.

  • @roastbeef1416
    @roastbeef1416 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    There's a great build of dolphin for retroarch called Dolphin MMJR that runs GameCube AND Wii games quite well on the odin pro. While I'm personally not a huge fan of retroarch it may be worth the try if you're at all interested in getting some MK Wii or Galaxy 2 action on.

  • @PsychoPlissken
    @PsychoPlissken Pƙed rokem

    I finally got mine in today after ordering it in late September. I've been watching this video at least once a day in anticipation of its arrival.

  • @MarcoBeSomething
    @MarcoBeSomething Pƙed 2 lety +4

    I hope Odin sends you the base and lite models so we can see you talk about those as well.

  • @ajmoo
    @ajmoo Pƙed 2 lety +32

    "I didn't want him to come inside" I haven't laughed that loud in a long time. Thanks, Bob.

  • @teneesh3376
    @teneesh3376 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Just looking at this, my biggest problem is the form factor. Like you said in a previous video with the switch. The vertical layout needs you to readjust your thumb in an uncomfortable position to use the right stick or dpad. Makes sense with the joycons, but makes no sense here
    The could make it wider and have the layout be offset instead of vertical

  • @dalefrancis9414
    @dalefrancis9414 Pƙed 2 lety

    The nostalgia at the start of the video with that song!

  • @sw1tchpoint
    @sw1tchpoint Pƙed 2 lety +54

    For the 3DS, that's mostly because the emulator is still in early life cycle and getting updates
    Also some slow down is shade caching
    As for DS, it may be because of the emulator or core you are using, along with maybe the bios

    • @chrisasma9700
      @chrisasma9700 Pƙed 2 lety +17

      Yeah, if you use the drastic emulator, everything runs flawlessly

    • @voteDC
      @voteDC Pƙed 2 lety +10

      Official Citra on Android has pretty much been abandoned. They released it, took donations for a pro version, and then have done nothing with it. The last Android build was 9 months ago.
      MMJ is a little better but updates trickle in exceedingly slowly.
      There is a fork called Citra Enhanced which is attempting to combine the feature set of official with the performance of MMJ but it's very inconsistent in performance at the moment.

    • @sw1tchpoint
      @sw1tchpoint Pƙed 2 lety +4

      @@voteDC I hope someone picks up on 3DS emulation again, especially with how much emulation is catching steam again

    • @sw1tchpoint
      @sw1tchpoint Pƙed 2 lety

      @@chrisasma9700 yep, it's all about trial and error with these cores and shader caches

    • @skhndkchannel
      @skhndkchannel Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Yeah right early cycle, look how AetherSX2 perform with only a month release, it run better than Citra ,even with unpopular chipset of smartphone like mediatek,that unfortunately ,Citra unable to do, that more lean to Snapdragon phone users.

  • @red2
    @red2 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    This looks good. Steam Deck looks massive ! Also this does 1080p... steamdeck only does slightly higher than 720p.

    • @Chance57
      @Chance57 Pƙed 2 lety

      For retro games 1080p isn't really doing much. PPI is more important overall, but given how low-res textures and low poly models were, it's a wash. For now on retro games, could this run current gen at full resolution anyways?

  • @bradporchak2326
    @bradporchak2326 Pƙed 2 lety

    it defiantly kicks serious ass! I love it! I wish I would have bought the dock though

  • @DigitalEndeavors
    @DigitalEndeavors Pƙed rokem

    I love emu and have enjoyed it since the very second of it's existence. You do a great service on the subject and I thank you.

  • @DarkTyyp
    @DarkTyyp Pƙed 2 lety +9

    "By Odin of Asgard, what a delectable piece of technology!"
    - Thor, probably

  • @Revz8bit
    @Revz8bit Pƙed 2 lety +4

    I'm really wanting this one now, thanks for the review! Just wanted to say, for 2DS and 3DS games, I insist on original hardware. For everything else, emulation is fine.

    • @lasthopelost9090
      @lasthopelost9090 Pƙed rokem +1

      I agree but with foldable devices I’m hoping they can take that over

  • @darkastronaut2603
    @darkastronaut2603 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    I didn't knew this guy, but this has been the Best review of this handheld to this date.

  • @rodrigomattos369
    @rodrigomattos369 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    That bag in 21:21 is for the Switch Lite? it fits perfectly. Good to know.

  • @namegoeshere197
    @namegoeshere197 Pƙed 2 lety +35

    so many interesting handhelds are getting released at the moment. Personally I Cant wait to get my hand on the steam deck.

    • @Galohide
      @Galohide Pƙed 2 lety +8

      Its a real shame about the size of the Steam Deck. Being both bigger and thicker than the Wii U gamepad, its not exactly an ideal portable.

    • @AlbedoAtoned
      @AlbedoAtoned Pƙed 2 lety +5

      @@Galohide For many, the bigger size is not only not really a problem, it's actually a plus. The switch and the joycons is not particularly comfortable on it's own. Which is why most people tend to get some type of grip when playing undocked or they go for third party controller acessories like the Hori Split pad, which by the way makes the switch about the same size as the Steam Deck. Sure, with a grip or the third party joycons, the system is bigger, but the base switch model, and arguably even the lite, most aren't going to just put it in their pocket. They're going to put it in a case, preferably one that fits with their grip or controller.
      Some will even carry it with extra accessories like a pro controller. Similarly, while the Odin looks smaller, though it looks fairly ergonomic compared to the switch, I still wouldn't try to fit it in my pocket, it would get the same treatment as the switch, which is to put it in a case and maybe put that case in a bag with the rest of the stuff I want to take with me.
      A steam deck is in the same range, of put it in a case, carry it in a bag as the other two, it's not in some separate class of portables, and it's powerful enough as well as capable of playing pretty much any pc or emulated game, that one doesn't even need much if anything else, they could even potentially replace their switch for many games since Switch emulators are getting to the point they run switch games better than the actual switch.

    • @Zoroasterisk
      @Zoroasterisk Pƙed 2 lety +3

      @@AlbedoAtoned Another reason the size is a plus is that it allows for more space for active cooling, which keeps temps low and framerates high, just as Gaben intended

    • @namegoeshere197
      @namegoeshere197 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@Galohide I guess its depend on who you are. For many people like me, Its not a problem, since I'm always carrying backpack anyway :)

  • @valoricintake
    @valoricintake Pƙed rokem +4

    Drastic is a much better option for DS emulation on Android in my experience, it's been running beautifully since like 2013

  • @garryknox1614
    @garryknox1614 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Great review, thank you. I would like to see Diablo 2 running on this. It's one of my favorites and if it's now able to be an acceptable portable game I would be very pleased. Game on!

  • @betterfunliving7772
    @betterfunliving7772 Pƙed 2 lety

    I like how he does commercials...entertaining. Got me excited.

  • @tuankietchu8561
    @tuankietchu8561 Pƙed 2 lety +10

    This little thing looks so cool so I checked the indiegogo right after watching your video to get me one bit apparently shipping to the EU will be charge 21% of tax so the price of the base model goes up to 280 include shipping fee damn it 😔 Hope that in the future other sort of distribution will be available in the EU đŸ˜„

  • @Cinderkin
    @Cinderkin Pƙed 2 lety +7

    I'm seeing these for $360 with the dock, is that accurate for the Pro model? Don't want to get scammed. Couldn't find a link in the description. Looks incredible and I really want one.

    • @keiz_
      @keiz_ Pƙed 2 lety +1

      They're still taking orders on Indegogo at the moment. They plan to go full retail, but it'll be a little bit till they fulfill current orders and decide where to sell it retail

    • @Cinderkin
      @Cinderkin Pƙed 2 lety

      @@keiz_ gotcha, thanks!

  • @VeryNijsMan
    @VeryNijsMan Pƙed 2 lety

    Wulff, seems you got those Satisfye Ryze pads. There's such a lack of videos on the product though. Would be nice if you did a video on those 🙂

  • @Wiijigga
    @Wiijigga Pƙed rokem

    Hey Bob I noticed you said all the good Wii games require motion controls so you didn't try them, was wondering if you could try tatsunoko vs Capcom as I'm interested how it handles it. Netplay of tatsunoko vs Capcom would be sweet also. Any way cheers for your content I thoroughly enjoy your videos. Merry Xmas

  • @realhumanbean46
    @realhumanbean46 Pƙed 2 lety +6

    I'm looking for one console dedicated for Ps2 and PsP. The psp is pretty tough to look for in an emulator console.

  • @ricardosilvalima540
    @ricardosilvalima540 Pƙed 2 lety +5

    The D900 is a good midrange SoC and for games and emulation, better cpu than the Snap 845 but unfortunaly a worse gpu. For n64/psp/Dreamcast i would expect same performance, but PS2/GC/Wii are more compatible to Snapdragon SoCs and D900 will have a worse performance

  • @KnowPhere
    @KnowPhere Pƙed rokem +1

    You might’ve sold me on this Bob. I kinda want a steam deck to make it my ultimate emulator with occasionally playing bigger modern titles like Batman, Star Wars or whatever. But for the price point, d-pad, size idk I’m hesitant to take the dive. Love my switch but this thing looks to scratch the itch of portable retro games and easier on the wallet. Will still consider the steam deck but this baby looks sweet

  • @psychopopdesign
    @psychopopdesign Pƙed 2 lety

    they actually just added Linux and Windows 11 'support too. Very tempted to get one. Thanks for the vid!

  • @thatzaliasguy
    @thatzaliasguy Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Use Citra MMJ instead of default Citra. WAAAY better performance. Also, the Odin works in most third-party Switch docks.

  • @persechini
    @persechini Pƙed 2 lety +4

    DS emulation on android definitely is not a retroarch affair, Drastic is the emulator you want. It's a paid app, but a must, as even on the pc the retroarch DS cores perform worst than the standalones. Best of worlds would be if drastic became open source and a retroarch core was made

  • @blakelaw596
    @blakelaw596 Pƙed 2 lety

    I subbed immediately you are the guy, idk what that means but it's good

  • @apr2499
    @apr2499 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I just got my Odin Pro (with the 256gb upgrade) last week. It is so awesome! I’m playing Windwaker on it and it’s runs great!

    • @williss1192
      @williss1192 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Is that the gamecube game? Wow, how does it work on there

    • @apr2499
      @apr2499 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@williss1192 it is the GameCube game. I’m using the Dolphin emulator and it works well! I’ve got it in the high performance mode and I’d say the majority of the time it’s perfect. Occasionally I hear a music stutter every now and then, but that is the exception, not the norm.

    • @arstriker911
      @arstriker911 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@apr2499 have you tried snes 9? With the double speed?

    • @apr2499
      @apr2499 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@arstriker911 I’m not understanding you. Do you mean the snes 9x emulator?