I hear you. We prefer doing reviews as well, but since I was going to have to install the kit either way I figured we might as well shoot a video on it. There will be a review coming down the road though.
If you search around there are videos on the driving difference. There is a notable difference off-road in a positive way, especially when driving faster on 2 track trails. The ride improved on the highway. I can’t remember which video I saw, but there are a couple out there, just search for them.
It's not any different, I just did this install in my '24 Powerboost. You can pry up the bracket for the lines and get a low profile ratchet or wrench in there. Added maybe 5 extra minutes for me.
Unless you're running offroad races, you don't need expensive Fox suspension products. I installed Rancho's 2.5" leveling kit on my 2004 FX4 and it works great. Cost was $750 and that included rear shocks, too.
Why didn't we see the, "Lower Spring Perch to be adjusted 5/8 of an inch down the strut shaft?". Description says to do that for our 2021 F150. How is that done?
That's literally why I watched this video. I figured I'd give it a shot without lowering at 5/8, but it's and inch higher in the front than the rear now..
2022 F150 crew cab 4x4 with a 5.0 here- this kit raised my front about 1.5". I'm at 40" to the fender in the front and 42" to the fender in the back, that's with 34x12 tires. I have the actual fox coilover spanner. I jacked up the truck, removed the wheels, and tried to raise the front. It's not possible with the shocks on the truck. Ride quality is stiffer than stock, and stiffer than the Bilstein 5100s I have on my 2018 F150 5.0 4x4.
@@socalpilotjin3720 I ran ICON on a 17' F150 SCREW 4x4 with 35x12.5x17s for 3 years. Some things were notably rough, example. NITTO TerraGrappler Mud tires would be a very uncomfortable ride if not rotated about every 4-5k miles. I always knew when it was time because driving around town was filled with vibration. So, FOX and Icon is sensitive to that small chatter stuff. Icon and FOX use similar shock tech, harsher than stock on the streets but you will love blasting through street dips without lifting the pedal and anytime you're on a washboard road our in the bumps it's great. Having ridden in a F150 Crew Cab on 35" with the Billstein 6112 2.5" level I can say hands down, it's the best ride I've felt for any truck that's spending more time on road than off...and that's like 95% of us. Good luck! :)
Hey Noah! What’s the stance on the truck? Is it leveled out or does the front now sit a little higher than the back? I’m thinking of doing the Fox package, with maybe some larger Halo Lift block in the back? Thoughts?
Hey Freddy! The front gained 2.25" of lift and the rear is at stock height. It sits close to dead level, but there's just a tiny bit of rake, which I like because it keeps the truck from going nose up when we load the bed. A slightly larger block in the back wouldn't be a bad idea if you tow or haul frequently.
Fox prefers that we stick to the install methods they show in their instructions, but you could absolutely drop the LCA like we did for our pervious install.
Noah, saw your vid and thought why not, Now, “With that being said,” I decided not to put in the Coilover Suspension Leveling Kit. So, “with all that out of the way,” I’ve decided to go fishing instead of watching CZcams vids. Now, once again……….“With all that being said,” I will probably be using power bait with a size #8 hook. Might pickup a dozen night-crawlers too. And, once again, “with all that out of the way,” I’ll be taking us to the lake in my 2022 F-150. And finally, “With all that totally out of the way,” what do you like to do on your off time besides making CZcams videos Noah….? If you don’t want to share, that’s ok. Going fishing.
Great video. Couple of questions if I may. 1) what is avg expected cost to have this professionally installed, and assume it includes alignment and re-calibrated safety sensors? 2) According to Roush, my 2021 F150 Lariat FX4 5.0 liter requires a "5/8 perch adjustment;" is that going to have any impact? 3) Assume my OEM tires (275/60R20) can remain and still maintain right fit and even be appropriate in terms of look etc? Thank you!
The 2.3" spacer is just a bit taller. Our Fox kit ended up sitting at 2" of lift, but I prefer the Fox system overall because it provides a better off-road ride than the spacers. Hope that helps!
Hate to be that guy to ask....but is torquing the fasteners with a torque wrench not a thing for these installs? Seems I saw paint marks on some of the nuts which would indicate a torque + turn setting at least. Thanks!
I installed this on my 23' F150 with 35's and now the front end feels much less stable than before. At highway speeds, if I go over a bridge overpass it wants to wander. Any ideas?
I prefer dropping the LCA, but Fox typically likes for us stick to the install methods they show in their instructions, so I kept things a little more "textbook" for this one.
Hi, please i just installed a fox 2.0 suspension on my 2020 F150. To my surprise, the shocks give me more than a 2 inch lift at the front. This situation has made the front pitch upwards making the truck look awkward. Could anyone help?.
We usually do drop the LCA for these suspension installs, but Fox prefers that we stick to the install methods they show in their instructions, so we kept things a little more "textbook" for this one.
The kit we installed is 4WD specific, but Fox does also make a 2WD kit that would install essentially the same way. Here's the link for you: www.stage3motorsports.com/fox21stage1rwd-21-22-f150-rwd-fox-stage-1-package.html
I would be more interested in a vedio that shows how much better it rides,or if theres any difference at all.
Agree a driving review please? You have lots of off-road driving reviews with the smaller/midsize trucks but not as many with full-size trucks.
I hear you. We prefer doing reviews as well, but since I was going to have to install the kit either way I figured we might as well shoot a video on it. There will be a review coming down the road though.
@@NoahStage3 looking forward to it! I am considering a set of these for my full size truck.
How does this kit compare to the Bilstein 6100 series coilovers y'all did a couple years back
If you search around there are videos on the driving difference. There is a notable difference off-road in a positive way, especially when driving faster on 2 track trails. The ride improved on the highway. I can’t remember which video I saw, but there are a couple out there, just search for them.
Could you guys do a part 2 with a Powerboost model? Different animal with the high voltage lines in the way on the passenger front.
It's not any different, I just did this install in my '24 Powerboost. You can pry up the bracket for the lines and get a low profile ratchet or wrench in there. Added maybe 5 extra minutes for me.
Unless you're running offroad races, you don't need expensive Fox suspension products. I installed Rancho's 2.5" leveling kit on my 2004 FX4 and it works great. Cost was $750 and that included rear shocks, too.
Just to note, we installed this on a 2022 F150 lariat and it had a 36mm axle nut.
That is a huge difference! The one they removed in the video was tiny!
@@daveharness70 we had to run to the parts store to get the axle nut socket. Good thing we had a second vehicle.
Why didn't we see the, "Lower Spring Perch to be adjusted 5/8 of an inch down the strut shaft?". Description says to do that for our 2021 F150. How is that done?
That's literally why I watched this video. I figured I'd give it a shot without lowering at 5/8, but it's and inch higher in the front than the rear now..
2022 F150 crew cab 4x4 with a 5.0 here- this kit raised my front about 1.5". I'm at 40" to the fender in the front and 42" to the fender in the back, that's with 34x12 tires. I have the actual fox coilover spanner. I jacked up the truck, removed the wheels, and tried to raise the front. It's not possible with the shocks on the truck. Ride quality is stiffer than stock, and stiffer than the Bilstein 5100s I have on my 2018 F150 5.0 4x4.
thanks for this comment. im in the process of deciding which one to go with for my 2021 f150 crew cab 4x4 and i definitely do not want a stiff ride.
How about icon?
@@socalpilotjin3720 I ran ICON on a 17' F150 SCREW 4x4 with 35x12.5x17s for 3 years. Some things were notably rough, example. NITTO TerraGrappler Mud tires would be a very uncomfortable ride if not rotated about every 4-5k miles. I always knew when it was time because driving around town was filled with vibration. So, FOX and Icon is sensitive to that small chatter stuff. Icon and FOX use similar shock tech, harsher than stock on the streets but you will love blasting through street dips without lifting the pedal and anytime you're on a washboard road our in the bumps it's great. Having ridden in a F150 Crew Cab on 35" with the Billstein 6112 2.5" level I can say hands down, it's the best ride I've felt for any truck that's spending more time on road than off...and that's like 95% of us. Good luck! :)
@@rubyv4sstiff makes cornering and braking a lot better
Excellent vid…got you a new subscriber. Happy New Year.
Much better just loosening the axle rather then messing up the alignment more by removing the lower control arm will definitely be doing it this way
Hey Noah! What’s the stance on the truck? Is it leveled out or does the front now sit a little higher than the back?
I’m thinking of doing the Fox package, with maybe some larger Halo Lift block in the back? Thoughts?
Hey Freddy! The front gained 2.25" of lift and the rear is at stock height. It sits close to dead level, but there's just a tiny bit of rake, which I like because it keeps the truck from going nose up when we load the bed. A slightly larger block in the back wouldn't be a bad idea if you tow or haul frequently.
Sweet! By rake you mean in the front right? That’s what I’m looking for. Thanks boss!
2.25 is all you gained after settling or is there still 0.25” left on it?
Wish you hadn't skipped over the very important removal step if there's a spacer.
Are the alignment specifications (camber, caster, toe, etc) to hit that are different than factory?
Can these be adjusted while on the truck? Can’t seem to find a spanner wrench for it.
Are the coilovers already set for a 2inch lift out of the box?
Why aren’t you removing LCA like the spacer install, especially since you’re installing cam bolts?
Fox prefers that we stick to the install methods they show in their instructions, but you could absolutely drop the LCA like we did for our pervious install.
Thanks for that clarification. I was thinking the exact same thing.
Noah, saw your vid and thought why not, Now, “With that being said,” I decided not to put in the Coilover Suspension Leveling Kit. So, “with all that out of the way,” I’ve decided to go fishing instead of watching CZcams vids. Now, once again……….“With all that being said,” I will probably be using power bait with a size #8 hook. Might pickup a dozen night-crawlers too. And, once again, “with all that out of the way,” I’ll be taking us to the lake in my 2022 F-150. And finally, “With all that totally out of the way,” what do you like to do on your off time besides making CZcams videos Noah….? If you don’t want to share, that’s ok. Going fishing.
Are these ok for the 2024? ford performance websites only has them for 2020 and older.
Great video, does this produce an extreme angle on the CV axles?
I found it made mine fairly extreme, w/ ~2.5" of lift. Ripped a boot
Great video. Couple of questions if I may. 1) what is avg expected cost to have this professionally installed, and assume it includes alignment and re-calibrated safety sensors? 2) According to Roush, my 2021 F150 Lariat FX4 5.0 liter requires a "5/8 perch adjustment;" is that going to have any impact? 3) Assume my OEM tires (275/60R20) can remain and still maintain right fit and even be appropriate in terms of look etc? Thank you!
The stock tires will look fine. There definitely is room to go larger though.
Instal is probably $500 per shock
Install of this kit is not much more involved than just a puck spacer leveling kit. $300-500 for the kit without alignment is typical.
Noah, which one sits higher in the front the 2.3" spacer or fox 2.0 and by how much? Which one would you choose? Thanks
The 2.3" spacer is just a bit taller. Our Fox kit ended up sitting at 2" of lift, but I prefer the Fox system overall because it provides a better off-road ride than the spacers. Hope that helps!
Why would you purchase this over a regular leveling kit from say readylift?
Fox is better quality IMO.
Hate to be that guy to ask....but is torquing the fasteners with a torque wrench not a thing for these installs? Seems I saw paint marks on some of the nuts which would indicate a torque + turn setting at least. Thanks!
He uses a torque wrench about 3/4 thru the video.
I installed this on my 23' F150 with 35's and now the front end feels much less stable than before. At highway speeds, if I go over a bridge overpass it wants to wander. Any ideas?
Do these ride real rough like the bilstien 2.0s? If so what do i need to switch to for a softer ride ,do i need ro go to 2.5s or what
Do these have to be adjusted before installation, or are they 2” level out of the box?
They are 2 out of the box
Hey Noah what is the purpose of loosening the axle nut?
After this install I’m having some weird steering and vibration issues.
I thought it was a 2.3in leveling kit??
Great Video. Can I adjust the coil overs on the truck?
Yes, they are adjustable
With that being said
The link to this kit requests options for UCA joints. Are they necessary for this install?
Nice. @Briansmobile1 did a video of this install on mine. Rides so much better. Best uograde for me.
What is the cv axel angel like with the fox 2.0 leveling kit installed
Out of curiosity.. why didn’t you drop the LCA like the last giveaway F150 and the Bronco?
I prefer dropping the LCA, but Fox typically likes for us stick to the install methods they show in their instructions, so I kept things a little more "textbook" for this one.
@@NoahStage3 makes sense. Appreciate the honesty and always respect the detail in the content! Thanks for the response!
@@FBI_Noodles Not a problem, always happy to hear the videos are appreciated 👍
Hi, please i just installed a fox 2.0 suspension on my 2020 F150. To my surprise, the shocks give me more than a 2 inch lift at the front. This situation has made the front pitch upwards making the truck look awkward. Could anyone help?.
Need to remove from truck, compress spring, loosen collar and lessen the preload. SPC makes a kickass spring compressor for this.
I ordered these for my 22 Ram 1500... Do they come preset from FOX for a two inch lift?
No, they get close but usually it's +/-1"
Why aren't you dropping the LCA? Doesn't make much sense.
We usually do drop the LCA for these suspension installs, but Fox prefers that we stick to the install methods they show in their instructions, so we kept things a little more "textbook" for this one.
Will 2wd work on it or what shock cam u do for 2 wd?
The kit we installed is 4WD specific, but Fox does also make a 2WD kit that would install essentially the same way. Here's the link for you: www.stage3motorsports.com/fox21stage1rwd-21-22-f150-rwd-fox-stage-1-package.html
Why would you need fox coil overs on a 2wd that can’t off-road at all?
@@JH-wq1lg Better right quality and for light off roading better then putting level kit makes shocks more stiff instead not good for anything