@@leeyunxi4277 I had that idea too, but I don't think they'll remove him from the main roster. 1. He is too popular. 2. He has plot relevance. 3. Everyone would complain that he isn't in the game.
I mained lars from a long time (onli T7) and I love the stylish combos he can perform. But I changed to paul and notice the difference. (1 lars combo= 1 paul fisting)
Lars is doodoo but to me he's like the most gun character in the game. Everything he does looks really cool and winning with him is the most satisfying. I miss when he was good tho.
@@aesonone I honestly feel like he was the beginning of goofy anime shit in Tekken, along with Alisa. When those two were introduced in T6 my eyes glazed over. Lars, Alisa, and Bob were such garbage additions to Tekken IMO. At least we got Miguel out of it, though.
His design is garbage, i can deal with some the twirling (though i agree it could look a lil more realistic) , but the silly hair (wat Swedish person looks like this? ) and power ranger wanna be outfit are deal breakers for me
And I'm still gonna play Lars!! Been playing him for a few years and I'm decent with Lars. He do need a few more QOL changes but man he is fun to play with. You gotta put in the time and me personally I play mind games with my opponents.
Yeah you carry the character pretty much which is nice but for me he is too risky for my playstyle. I main Jin and as I growed as a player now I mostly like to play defense and get a read on my opponent so I dropped him.
@@GThunder_Gaming Dude I know exactly what you are talking about. That's how you honestly win more battles. Getting that read on your opponent and knowing how they will react to certain strings and moves helps me a lot with Lars because he don't have moves to open up his opponent. Fighting someone with a good foundation on this game with Lars is a daunting task.
@@VNvader For sure! I can definitely put up a fight with Lars. I be winning matches with Lars and I'm like "How did I get that win". It's just really knowing the character honestly.
@@azurviper513 Hello Azur! Im a old tekken guy, been playing tekken since the 1st tekken game appeared. And to be honest, I couldn’t find a character that i could be good with or to main a character back then, I even couldn’t sleep at nights because i was very obsessed with many characters like Law, King, Kazuya, Paul, Jack, Michelle Chang and Julia, i really tried to master their fightingstyle and juggle combos so I struggled alot in many years by trying to perfect and sharpen their strengths but that wasn’t enough until Lars made his first Tekken debut in Tekken 6. When i tried Lars first time? he seemed so perfect fighting character for me. From that moment when i picked Lars? I learned each and every single tool that he had and mained Lars after 3 weeks of hard practice. From then, I’ve been playing Lars non stop and still playing him today. From my view of Lars, it takes time, pain and experience to understand this character, you have to go through the hard way to be better with Lars because Lars tells you visually like this: ‘’Im not helping you to carry your ass. You have to carry me or otherwise you gonna lose until you end on the bottom. Thats how the deal its gonna be. Take it or leave it.’’ And this is the first character that really puts a smile to me. But Lars needs alot of time and work. You can’t just pick Lars and jump right to the wolves with him. So the pilot needs to be strong to play with Lars. It takes dedication to understand how Lars fully works. So people really need to respect Lars players because of the risk they take. You can’t discredit their hardwork they’ve put through with Lars to achieve mindblowing results with Lars. Only people who really understand Lars knows what im talking about. Gg to all Lars players in the world 😀😀
Give this man credits already czcams.com/video/nOWUfne-M_4/video.html (Look at the last combo atleast) Mainman was right tho i didnt believed him first when he said u make a mistake if ur combo doesnt gets to wall with lars... what a wise man
I'm surprised that it's not mentioned but the one obvious design choice about Lars is that he's supposed to be the "New" Mishima when he first became playable. Being the son of Heihachi, the "Mishima" gameplay was modified as such that his "wavedash" was just a command or a stance (Dynamic, Silent Entry). And of course the infamous "50/50" playstyle.
Except original Lars 50-50 was giga weak. He excelled in fishing counter hit with df2 and keeping movement in check with 12 (where the 2 tracked) and df2 (which also had very good tracking). His stances had no lows (only SEN2, which was borderline seeable). FF43 was -5 on hit.
@@Carsu12 When you say "giga weak" do you mean you defeated every Lars player you've fought or you used Lars and had hard time with it? These type of comments are funny to me when there are millions of Tekken players and there's no exact way to know who play Lars offline/online.
@@jinkazama7587 he's referring to the so called "50/50" you mentioned when T6 Lars had nothing to do with Mishima 50/50 gameplay, he had no lows from Dynamic Entry stance, and his SE2 was launch punishable in T6 and Tag 2, so I don't know just what 50/50 you're talking. Mishima hellsweep is not a seeable low, while DE2 was not only launch punishable on block, it didn't lead to any combos on CH, and it was semi-seeable, so it was a risky low to be throwing out when it wasn't -12 back then.
@@jinkazama7587 No, I'm talking about moves and their properties. They don't run on hopes and dreams. Learn to read with comprehension. I feel like I explained my point sufficiently.
Give this man credits already czcams.com/video/nOWUfne-M_4/video.html (Look at the last combo atleast) Mainman was right tho i didnt believed him first when he said u make a mistake if ur combo doesnt gets to wall with lars... what a wise man
he does actually however like for every character you will find people online who will still try to play him aggressively with moves that have extremely high risk
Dumpstersson 1:34 isnt beach stage longest from wall to wall? Funny how everytime someone mentions Lars shitty launch game, he gets 'tHiS gAmE iS nOt aBoUt lAuNcHeRs' in response.
Give this man credits already czcams.com/video/nOWUfne-M_4/video.html (Look at the last combo atleast) Mainman was right tho i didnt believed him first when he said u make a mistake if ur combo doesnt gets to wall with lars... what a wise man
@@djw_tekken8490 like TMM said, whats the point of Such Wall carry when you have no way to start the combo? Beside there are rare situations where you need a Wall carry this long, every character will get a Wall from the center of a stage.
It would suit Lars style I think, to give ark blast phantom range and have it so at certain ranges you can’t reach the punish. As in, it should have the range to whiff punish, but be safe for Lars if zoned perfectly.
You forgot his only decent launcher, ff1+2. Good range, mid, safe, average speed, but steppable, combos only on ch, and it's directly a spin combo unfortunately, so no 1375479 damage. He has a little more direct launcher in f3,2 than in other stance launchers, but it has its issues as well. About anything else, he has mediocre movements and neutral. He may try to use b1 to cover some of his most linear moves, but that's it. His lows are, well, very risky, and only db4 gives proper rewards for the amount of risk you take. Very sad that such a dynamic character has been so nerfed since the other games.
Give this man credits already czcams.com/video/nOWUfne-M_4/video.html (Look at the last combo atleast) Mainman was right tho i didnt believed him first when he said u make a mistake if ur combo doesnt gets to wall with lars... what a wise man
Lars just needs better poking and safer launcher's. He used to have godlike poking in Tekken 6, but they nerfed it going into Tekken 7. His uf3 was also safer in T6. Same with his 14f launcher. Imo if he had better utility with his launcher's, better movement, better poking, and more CH's on 15f pokes then he would be a solid character. He also has poor tracking on most of his moves. His combo's are amazing, and his wall carry is also good, but in high level play that's not important when it's hard to get in. Most of his powerful moves are locked behind stances. The only good move that Lars really has is B1, a safe CH knock-down mid that gives you a mix-up if it lands. If they made this move a launcher...Lars would be finally be viable in a tournament...well kind of.
what you mean his 14F launcher? his FB21 was always launch punishable if blocked. He just needs his old DF2 back then it'll be a night and day difference, should have been just an UF2 input or something, instead of the stupid full crouch move, never ever understand giving him that move from a FC as if he has any mix up outside of fc df 1+2 which only tickles people, it's not like he's got a shaheen/law/Lee slide that might harass people enough to block low, tie my shoe lace isn't enough for people to start ducking.
Lars is perfectly balanced, you need to nerf who above him. And its good that they nerf lughting screw and i14 punish because they have to be very punishble. And his i15 ch is amazing. Not launch, but solid tracking, insane range and good frames and damage even without ch.
@@bludika Ik that, I mean it safer in the game by 2 frames, and uf3 was also better. The 14f launcher can remain that way on block, but I feel like his uf3 should be way safer on block, because -26 is to much for a 16f that crushes highs. I'm saying B1 should become his new 15f launcher, because df2 is a crouch move now, and tbh it gives him a crouch mix-up with fully crouch df1+2, so I don't mind it being in crouch. For B1 to be a CH launcher tho, they might need to nerf the range it has and only make it track to his left and not make it track to both sides. Also his orbital imo does need a buff. It's too slow, this thing comes it 25-27f, and on whiff it takes ages to recover, and it doesn't have any sort of tracking to any side.
Theres so much I want for Lars. Buff his lows, give us the old DF2 and DE1+2 back. The current DF 2, 1 can be UF 2, 1 or something. His launchers should be safer but not safe. Id prefer arc blast as the 14 frame punish tbh but its fine as is. He needs to change one of his wall bounce moves cause they’re both locked behind a stance. Last thing he is pretty sluggish so give him some tracking or better movement but not both.
I've mained Lars and only Lars just because he's "the coolest guy". I never really cared if his neutrals are bad or if he's low-tier. If you lose to someone, then there's something you gotta work on.
Give this man credits already czcams.com/video/nOWUfne-M_4/video.html (Look at the last combo atleast) Mainman was right tho i didnt believed him first when he said u make a mistake if ur combo doesnt gets to wall with lars... what a wise man
Lars is the most fun I've had in this game next to bears but he's also the character I got bodied with the most. His mixups are fake and not scary. His lows are just so God awful why even have lows at all. Still hella cool though.
I wished they changed his inputs around and have his d/f 2,1 to u/f 2,1 and replace while standing d/f 2 to a normal d/f 2. so it can be a better counter move to stun.
Lars use to be my main but I switched to leo reason being because when I play games I like characters like leo to me its easier to play with leo than lars
Give this man credits already czcams.com/video/nOWUfne-M_4/video.html (Look at the last combo atleast) Mainman was right tho i didnt believed him first when he said u make a mistake if ur combo doesnt gets to wall with lars... what a wise man
He's been my fav character since he came out in Tekken 6, I usually mained Law and Feng Wei, but I played against a Lars then decided to go through the story and thought his moves all looked cool. His animations and moves are what did it for me lol. But Maaaaaaaan... They 💩'd on him in this game. Must've been too dominant though Tekken 6 and TTT2
it's alright though because it makes him an interesting character, have good combo but weak launcher, like heihachi having a good mid and overall but weak low, having a weakness in character only makes you think on how to cover it.
His best CH move in the neutral, that is also relatively safe now is ff1+2, but the problem with this move is the ff input. It makes the move predictable and much slower than it actually is, additionally the combo is an instant screw so you don't take full advantage of his wall carry, which he is now so known for. On top of all that, it's extremely linear... I find it absurd that ff1+2 was -11 throughout the entirety of Tekken 7 until just recently with the season 4 patch that made it -9.....They keep buffing his stances, but what he needs the most help is in the neutral....
As a Lars player, IMO his difficulty should be high. No execution that much but you'll be tested on his gameplay. Maybe they can switch DF2,1 to during crouch DF2,1 and have the old classic Lars DF2 back since he already had silent entry 3+4 as tail spin for his combos.
no need to make df21 from FC, just make it an UF21 input lol, and bring back to the old df2, problem solved. I also would like his 1+2, 2 move, because it was cancellable, never understood why they got rid of that move just to make room for the RA input...1+2 inputs suck for rage art too since you can accidentally trigger it when trying to break 1+2 throws, his rage art input could have easily been something like F 2+3 or something or UB 1+2.
@@bludika that works too. Or maybe they should've removed D1+2 and replace it as a rage art command. That Low attack isnt good anyway. I also like your idea of bringing back Lars' 1+2,2. That way you can do some set ups.
Considering how flashy Lars is, his neutral movement should be on par with Zafina's. And for the same reason I think he should really has at least one good CH launcher.
Lars actually doesn't appear very agile, but rather, he's quick like a sprinter. Aesthetically, it makes sense for him to have quick moves that cover a lot of distance, but have high recovery, but it wouldn't really make sense for him to have small, nimble movements. I'm pretty sure a lot of his design and move bands take inspiration from lighting, which is linear, but fast and powerful. But again, that's just artistically speaking
@@painandpyro Yeah, I like your vision and explanation and I agree in certain things. But been inspired by lightning, Lars represent speed and fast dashing movement. For me it doesn't connect with sluggish side movement. He has entries, which still would seem more significant than any side-step and keep his forward movement his brightest characteristic, even if he had better side-steps and backdash. His stances looks cool, but gameplay wise he is slow. Not a lightning at all. It seems wrong to me.
@@WunjoYT I'm personally not a fan of him having an amazing sidestep (because I still have problems against him haha), but a happy middle ground could be some sort of lateral evasion out of either of his entries/other moves, like Alisa "sidestep" with chainsaws. His 14 frame pun and arc blast still feel very "fast" to me, but he seems like a character that's hard to balance, little tweaks make him either op or low tier, its hard to find a middle ground for him. Maybe making something like df21 minus 13? Or even similar to a normal df2? The thing is, you cant really (or at least, SHOULDNT) have amazing combos AND amazing launchers, so idk end of the day
Lars has not been the same since they replaced his standing d/f 2 in Tekken 7. It was such an important part of his offence because it was his only practical, low risk way of landing a CH launcher.
@@Adam7180 BRO!! I can fight a Law or a Jin player and get launched just from anything they do. While with my Lars I have to literally CH to even get some damage in. I've been playing with Lars for a few years so I know what moves to use and how to set them up to get those CH so it's not too bad. I just wish Lars just one or two moves that could give him the advantage other characters have. I don't want him to be super strong but strong enough to compete with a good ass Kazuya or Jin player. Those guys will tear you apart if you don't know how to deal with them
Give this man credits already czcams.com/video/nOWUfne-M_4/video.html (Look at the last combo atleast) Mainman was right tho i didnt believed him first when he said u make a mistake if ur combo doesnt gets to wall with lars... what a wise man
Lars in Tekken 6 is brilliant and Tekken Tag 2 he wasn't bad either. Despite having a great drip he got nerfed to oblivion in Tekken 7 since he's a beginner character. Still have love for him even if he's no where near his Tekken 6 form.
I think Lars is higher tier than trash tier with a defensive mindeset, If he had Zafina's backdash, what would we be the result of the character is my question.
I play this anime dude from tekken 6 (on psp) and now for me its normal after all this time to have bad loucher 😂 I can talk forever about what buff l wish for this character, but now its just doest matter, tekken 7 is almost done, and for 8 every character will change quite a bit so l'm pretty focus for the next game 😅
fcdf2 doesnt have crouch status like some moves from fc like bryan fcdf4. as soon as you do the move he is considered standing so is vulnerable to highs.
Before I even watch the video - 1. Shit launcher damage. Most are like 20 but everybody else is like 25. 2. Great wall carry yes but have you ever heard of Infinite Azure? 3. Ark Blast or F+1+2 should be his fastest punish move imo. It needs a buff
1. His launcher damage is actually on the better end, most i15 launchers deal 13-15 damage. 2. Good point, though he still has good combo damage without walls. But it's a solid argument. 3. He actually has a 14 frame launcher, one of the few in the game, and with zero execution. Lars punishment most certainly does not need a buff, he's good one of the best in the game. I personally feel like people are exaggerating about some of his weaknesses, and main reason is that he was busted before, and people got used to these versions of him. And also the fact that safe generic df2's are still a thing in this game, giving every other launcher a worse risk/reward ratio in comparison. Even though I personally believe that a -13 mid-mid super fast launcher that gives ~70 dmg or ~100+ with walls is a good in terms of risk/reward, it pales in comparison to the plethora of safe df2s, magic 4s and b1.
Lars isn't scary. No mixups, no pressure, no good CH game. Great defense, no real offense. I think the worse aspect that's holding him back is his lack of movement. And unlike Gigas, his damage doesn't really make up for his lack of launch power. Gigas is almost always two good decisions from a round. Lars just doesn't have the output you'd look for with his tools. Increase his movement, make 111 safe on block and force crouch on hit/block, and make df1,3 +4 on hit... Lars would be better. His just seriously has no viable options to get into his damage without block punishment or great conditioning.
I'm confused, should a launcher be fast and safe on block??? Personally he is one of the most annoying characters because of that dash stance sou the whole match you see this crazy tornado of a lars just screaming and dashing all over the place it's a mess, they should have made him play a bit more normal imo
A launcher should be at least 15 frames but safe on block launcher is quite good, if Lars's f1+2 is -12, it is quite fine. A launcher for example Bryan's Jet Upper, it is 14 frames and it is safe on block and you can buffer it, that is extremely good, but in Lars's case, his most decent launcher from neutral is f1+2, its 15 frames and its -13. I don't really includes fb2,1. Sure it is a 14 frame launcher but it is a whopping -18 on block, every character in the cast can launch it.
Lars doesnt suck…he is very balanced…streamers want these op characters with unseeable lows..lars is good..he has a hell sweep…orbital with a devil jin hop kick…great punish..Yet again MM wants characters to have everything..
MM never said Lars is bad, he said he is mid tier and mid tier means balanced. He is just pointing out why Lars is not high tier or used by the best players in tournaments. Because there are much stronger characters in the game.
Give this man credits already czcams.com/video/nOWUfne-M_4/video.html (Look at the last combo atleast) Mainman was right tho i didnt believed him first when he said u make a mistake if ur combo doesnt gets to wall with lars... what a wise man
Not every launcher is gonna get you to the wall. That wall carry you did can't be done from ark blast for example and it doesn't mean the Lars player is making any mistake
Give this man credits already czcams.com/video/nOWUfne-M_4/video.html (Look at the last combo atleast) Mainman was right tho i didnt believed him first when he said u make a mistake if ur combo doesnt gets to wall with lars... what a wise man
He has ff1+2. quick rangy mid CH launcher in neutral. Safe with PUSHBACK. insanely cheap if you ask me. When I played him I did like 5 ff1+2s ever round. Steppable but the tracking isn't too bad. Gotta be timed. It might have slightly less tracking and dmg than FC df2 but you don't lose your turn completely which is a big deal in neutral.
Up until s4 it was -11 and many characters could punish it. Right now its -9. Its good tool that he has, nothing too crazy or outstanding. And it doesn’t have THAT much pushback to say that you dont lose your turn
@@kaspermorrigan8722 It always had pushback. Not many chars have very rangy i11 moves at their disposal. Gigas I guess. At a good range. And to the pushback... Let me say just this: If you hit it on roughly tip range Leroys orbital whiffs, his hellsweep whiffs. his jabs whiff, his df1 whiffs etc. etc. The pushback is not bad. And jabs and df1s whiff even on nonwhere near tip range. I played Lars :) I know this stuff cause I abused it like crazy.
@@pablotheimmortal6440 you didn’t need rangy i11 at disposal. Being as inconsistent as T7 is, pushback is different every time you hit a move so I had my ff1+2 punished by kazuyas 112 for example
Lars is cool for this but compared to Julia, she actually has a high crushing safe 15f launcher. Combine that with her insane wall carry, she has the best overall combos in the game.
@@TheUnique69able What are you talking about? Julia's QCF2 is 15f high, high crushes, safe on block. its -8. Her other 15f launcher df2,1 is unsafe at -18
I mean, eddy and chloe is considered low tier but they do work both online and definitely tournaments. Johndding, Abel is already crazy with eddy. Now kaizer is doing work with Chloe as well. Nobody should be considered C tier and below imo. All of the casts do great damage including the bears. No character has no reason to be played because most likely, they’d have things that is crazy in terms of other higher tier characters [for some reason] or even in other characters in general. My point is that nobody is a bad character/bad picks because bad characters in Tekken 7 doesn’t exists. No cap.
I love Lars and I learned the game with him but the more I learned the the less I enjoyed playing him. He's so clunky it feels like you're always playing at a huge disadvantage for no reason. I really hope he gets some adjustments soon
I was killed by a friend using lars with his fucking 90-100dmg combos - but it made me learn how to play Tekken, because I had to learn how not to get launched - or die
you cant rly mention kazumi as a comparison and only mention that she has a magic 4(that gives her low damage) when all her other launchers are absolute poop
It would be better if they change the broken characters from time to time like in the RPG game Seige like for one month Claudio is broken then in another lars is broken. If it's hard to balance everyone then give everybody a chance to be broken
tekken 8 lars will be top tier by God's grace
TENDO! And yes he will! They have to make Lars OD in Tekken 8.
Make lars a dlc character, then he will be top tier
@@leeyunxi4277 I had that idea too, but I don't think they'll remove him from the main roster. 1. He is too popular. 2. He has plot relevance. 3. Everyone would complain that he isn't in the game.
tendo with the facts (hopefully)
#bufflars sir
I mained lars from a long time (onli T7) and I love the stylish combos he can perform. But I changed to paul and notice the difference. (1 lars combo= 1 paul fisting)
1 paul fisting
I don't know why i never see paul vs paul lol
Fisting you say hmmm?
you like Paul fisting you say huh 😏
You had me at paul fisting
Lars is doodoo but to me he's like the most gun character in the game. Everything he does looks really cool and winning with him is the most satisfying. I miss when he was good tho.
his animations are too twirly imo. nearly badass but overdone, looks like he's made of springs. in my eyes
Not what I like in a Tekken, way too anime, I hate his silent entry or whatever it's called, so dumb.
@@aesonone I honestly feel like he was the beginning of goofy anime shit in Tekken, along with Alisa. When those two were introduced in T6 my eyes glazed over.
Lars, Alisa, and Bob were such garbage additions to Tekken IMO. At least we got Miguel out of it, though.
Goofy anime shit was a thing since Tekken 1
His design is garbage, i can deal with some the twirling (though i agree it could look a lil more realistic) , but the silly hair (wat Swedish person looks like this? ) and power ranger wanna be outfit are deal breakers for me
And I'm still gonna play Lars!! Been playing him for a few years and I'm decent with Lars. He do need a few more QOL changes but man he is fun to play with. You gotta put in the time and me personally I play mind games with my opponents.
Yeah you carry the character pretty much which is nice but for me he is too risky for my playstyle. I main Jin and as I growed as a player now I mostly like to play defense and get a read on my opponent so I dropped him.
@@GThunder_Gaming Dude I know exactly what you are talking about. That's how you honestly win more battles. Getting that read on your opponent and knowing how they will react to certain strings and moves helps me a lot with Lars because he don't have moves to open up his opponent. Fighting someone with a good foundation on this game with Lars is a daunting task.
Honestly I’m good with Lars so I either completely destroy someone or they get lucky block one move and start ridiculous damage or cheap setups
@@VNvader For sure! I can definitely put up a fight with Lars. I be winning matches with Lars and I'm like "How did I get that win". It's just really knowing the character honestly.
@@azurviper513 Hello Azur!
Im a old tekken guy, been playing tekken since the 1st tekken game appeared. And to be honest, I couldn’t find a character that i could be good with or to main a character back then, I even couldn’t sleep at nights because i was very obsessed with many characters like Law, King, Kazuya, Paul, Jack, Michelle Chang and Julia, i really tried to master their fightingstyle and juggle combos so I struggled alot in many years by trying to perfect and sharpen their strengths but that wasn’t enough until Lars made his first Tekken debut in Tekken 6.
When i tried Lars first time? he seemed so perfect fighting character for me. From that moment when i picked Lars?
I learned each and every single tool that he had and mained Lars after 3 weeks of hard practice. From then, I’ve been playing Lars non stop and still playing him today. From my view of Lars, it takes time, pain and experience to understand this character, you have to go through the hard way to be better with Lars because Lars tells you visually like this:
‘’Im not helping you to carry your ass. You have to carry me or otherwise you gonna lose until you end on the bottom. Thats how the deal its gonna be. Take it or leave it.’’
And this is the first character that really puts a smile to me. But Lars needs alot of time and work. You can’t just pick Lars and jump right to the wolves with him. So the pilot needs to be strong to play with Lars.
It takes dedication to understand how Lars fully works. So people really need to respect Lars players because of the risk they take.
You can’t discredit their hardwork they’ve put through with Lars to achieve mindblowing results with Lars. Only people who really understand Lars knows what im talking about. Gg to all Lars players in the world 😀😀
He's cool, badass, and that's enough for me to continue maining him
I find it rather strange that a character with so much long range movement involved in its combos has such poor movement in Neutral.
Yea fr it's like 2 different characters
Give this man credits already
czcams.com/video/nOWUfne-M_4/video.html
(Look at the last combo atleast)
Mainman was right tho i didnt believed him first when he said u make a mistake if ur combo doesnt gets to wall with lars... what a wise man
Yes he has the best combos and still suck. He has long range wall carry combos and very easy too.
he still does and it's not surprising if it wasn't for the fact that I main him for so long I would've replaced him with one of my pocket characters.
I'm surprised that it's not mentioned but the one obvious design choice about Lars is that he's supposed to be the "New" Mishima when he first became playable.
Being the son of Heihachi, the "Mishima" gameplay was modified as such that his "wavedash" was just a command or a stance (Dynamic, Silent Entry). And of course the infamous "50/50" playstyle.
Except original Lars 50-50 was giga weak. He excelled in fishing counter hit with df2 and keeping movement in check with 12 (where the 2 tracked) and df2 (which also had very good tracking). His stances had no lows (only SEN2, which was borderline seeable). FF43 was -5 on hit.
@@Carsu12 When you say "giga weak" do you mean you defeated every Lars player you've fought or you used Lars and had hard time with it? These type of comments are funny to me when there are millions of Tekken players and there's no exact way to know who play Lars offline/online.
@@jinkazama7587 he's referring to the so called "50/50" you mentioned when T6 Lars had nothing to do with Mishima 50/50 gameplay, he had no lows from Dynamic Entry stance, and his SE2 was launch punishable in T6 and Tag 2, so I don't know just what 50/50 you're talking. Mishima hellsweep is not a seeable low, while DE2 was not only launch punishable on block, it didn't lead to any combos on CH, and it was semi-seeable, so it was a risky low to be throwing out when it wasn't -12 back then.
@@jinkazama7587 No, I'm talking about moves and their properties. They don't run on hopes and dreams. Learn to read with comprehension. I feel like I explained my point sufficiently.
@@jinkazama7587 🤣🤣 exactly he didnt even answer ur question he play lars obviously and has a hard time im jin main too ure on ps4?
Hey mainman do you plan to continue the 8mins guide series? So useful ! I'm so excited for the 200k subs
Lars is a represent of how you nerf a original op character to the ground
Tekken 6 lars isn't Op lol
That would be jin
Give this man credits already
czcams.com/video/nOWUfne-M_4/video.html
(Look at the last combo atleast)
Mainman was right tho i didnt believed him first when he said u make a mistake if ur combo doesnt gets to wall with lars... what a wise man
Yes Lars in Tekken 6 was strong and now Is a Little bad.
dont forget about his backturn spike combos that do 85+ guaranteed damage without wall
His old df+2 is what kept me feeling like Kazuya's brother back in TTT2. The input change was utterly disappointing.
They should replace the current DF2,1 into UF2,1 then the old DF2 should return and can be used in both standing and crouching
@@aaguy63 That’s a great suggestion.
I'd say he's a character that requires a lot of patience then
he does actually
however like for every character you will find people online who will still try to play him aggressively with moves that have extremely high risk
@@BEER-OTFG ye
Dumpstersson
1:34 isnt beach stage longest from wall to wall?
Funny how everytime someone mentions Lars shitty launch game, he gets 'tHiS gAmE iS nOt aBoUt lAuNcHeRs' in response.
The bottom of the jungle stage after wall break is also longer.
Give this man credits already
czcams.com/video/nOWUfne-M_4/video.html
(Look at the last combo atleast)
Mainman was right tho i didnt believed him first when he said u make a mistake if ur combo doesnt gets to wall with lars... what a wise man
@pivorsc even in beach stage he gets to the wall #DUMPSTERSSON
@@djw_tekken8490 like TMM said, whats the point of Such Wall carry when you have no way to start the combo? Beside there are rare situations where you need a Wall carry this long, every character will get a Wall from the center of a stage.
I like where Lars is at, I just think other characters are too fucking good and movement needs to be buffed across the board
It would suit Lars style I think, to give ark blast phantom range and have it so at certain ranges you can’t reach the punish.
As in, it should have the range to whiff punish, but be safe for Lars if zoned perfectly.
You forgot his only decent launcher, ff1+2. Good range, mid, safe, average speed, but steppable, combos only on ch, and it's directly a spin combo unfortunately, so no 1375479 damage. He has a little more direct launcher in f3,2 than in other stance launchers, but it has its issues as well.
About anything else, he has mediocre movements and neutral. He may try to use b1 to cover some of his most linear moves, but that's it. His lows are, well, very risky, and only db4 gives proper rewards for the amount of risk you take.
Very sad that such a dynamic character has been so nerfed since the other games.
FF 1+2 isn't that bad, but it does have tracking issues, and fact that it Screws on CH hurts him a lot.
His biggest problem is his movement and really bulky hurtbox. How can you poke when you can get clipped by every attack?
@@TheUnique69able true, he's just BADDDD lol.
Give this man credits already
czcams.com/video/nOWUfne-M_4/video.html
(Look at the last combo atleast)
Mainman was right tho i didnt believed him first when he said u make a mistake if ur combo doesnt gets to wall with lars... what a wise man
buff Lars nerf all DLC characters
i second this
Lars just needs better poking and safer launcher's. He used to have godlike poking in Tekken 6, but they nerfed it going into Tekken 7. His uf3 was also safer in T6. Same with his 14f launcher. Imo if he had better utility with his launcher's, better movement, better poking, and more CH's on 15f pokes then he would be a solid character. He also has poor tracking on most of his moves. His combo's are amazing, and his wall carry is also good, but in high level play that's not important when it's hard to get in. Most of his powerful moves are locked behind stances. The only good move that Lars really has is B1, a safe CH knock-down mid that gives you a mix-up if it lands. If they made this move a launcher...Lars would be finally be viable in a tournament...well kind of.
what you mean his 14F launcher? his FB21 was always launch punishable if blocked. He just needs his old DF2 back then it'll be a night and day difference, should have been just an UF2 input or something, instead of the stupid full crouch move, never ever understand giving him that move from a FC as if he has any mix up outside of fc df 1+2 which only tickles people, it's not like he's got a shaheen/law/Lee slide that might harass people enough to block low, tie my shoe lace isn't enough for people to start ducking.
Lars is perfectly balanced, you need to nerf who above him. And its good that they nerf lughting screw and i14 punish because they have to be very punishble. And his i15 ch is amazing. Not launch, but solid tracking, insane range and good frames and damage even without ch.
@@FlKatatsu what 15 ch....whats your rank lol
@@bludika Ik that, I mean it safer in the game by 2 frames, and uf3 was also better. The 14f launcher can remain that way on block, but I feel like his uf3 should be way safer on block, because -26 is to much for a 16f that crushes highs.
I'm saying B1 should become his new 15f launcher, because df2 is a crouch move now, and tbh it gives him a crouch mix-up with fully crouch df1+2, so I don't mind it being in crouch. For B1 to be a CH launcher tho, they might need to nerf the range it has and only make it track to his left and not make it track to both sides. Also his orbital imo does need a buff. It's too slow, this thing comes it 25-27f, and on whiff it takes ages to recover, and it doesn't have any sort of tracking to any side.
@@FlKatatsu He'll probably get buffed regardless going into Tekken 8, so he'll be improved anyways.
I haven't played him since season 3. I need to play him again
#BuffLars
listen to the lars god ^
Amen to that
You’re right sir
He needs an electric 😎
yeah as Mishimas i guess he need some electric uppercut too
ahhh, my main being low tier is always a nice thing to have
how are ya tekken dad?
Theres so much I want for Lars. Buff his lows, give us the old DF2 and DE1+2 back. The current DF 2, 1 can be UF 2, 1 or something. His launchers should be safer but not safe. Id prefer arc blast as the 14 frame punish tbh but its fine as is. He needs to change one of his wall bounce moves cause they’re both locked behind a stance. Last thing he is pretty sluggish so give him some tracking or better movement but not both.
Bro i was thinking the same too about replacing current DF2,1 into UF2,1… i want lars’s old DF2 can be used in both standing and crouching
@@aaguy63 He needs it cause his safe mid options do nothing on counter hit other than B4 fr but you can’t combo after it.
@As a fellow Lars Main, you are speaking nothing but facts
@@Kingofthacourt 🤣🤣🤣 Bro gtfoh
@@Zrekaens 😂🤣😭
Could you do a movement tier list
When i play against a lars and just forget to block and he starts his combo thats where a little bit of me dies inside
I've mained Lars and only Lars just because he's "the coolest guy". I never really cared if his neutrals are bad or if he's low-tier.
If you lose to someone, then there's something you gotta work on.
With lars you just gotta work way harder but there are so many better characters to play than him
@@pfuze_5775 I agree but Lars has always been 'that' character for me
Give this man credits already
czcams.com/video/nOWUfne-M_4/video.html
(Look at the last combo atleast)
Mainman was right tho i didnt believed him first when he said u make a mistake if ur combo doesnt gets to wall with lars... what a wise man
Mainman you do interesting character Analysis videos please make more.
Being able to get the combos against someone that knows how to defend, is the hard part
Tekken 8 needs to bring Lars tekken 6 armor outfit back that boy was fire
1:35 what about the beach stage when u go down after balcony break ?
Lars is the most fun I've had in this game next to bears but he's also the character I got bodied with the most. His mixups are fake and not scary. His lows are just so God awful why even have lows at all. Still hella cool though.
always wondered why i never seen lars in T7, makes sense
I wished they changed his inputs around and have his d/f 2,1 to u/f 2,1 and replace while standing d/f 2 to a normal d/f 2. so it can be a better counter move to stun.
Lars use to be my main but I switched to leo reason being because when I play games I like characters like leo to me its easier to play with leo than lars
So close to 200k pog
Lars is like that one character you make in a rpg game and you go with pure strength stats build.
Is more like a full dexterity build
Give this man credits already
czcams.com/video/nOWUfne-M_4/video.html
(Look at the last combo atleast)
Mainman was right tho i didnt believed him first when he said u make a mistake if ur combo doesnt gets to wall with lars... what a wise man
Lars can Wall on infinite azure …
The title pretty much explains the Lars main experience
Delayed right hop kick is way better that that slow ass orbital kick launcher you can see a 1000 miles away. Plus it has more damage.
No idea
Lars combos are very visually appealing, though
He's been my fav character since he came out in Tekken 6, I usually mained Law and Feng Wei, but I played against a Lars then decided to go through the story and thought his moves all looked cool. His animations and moves are what did it for me lol. But Maaaaaaaan... They 💩'd on him in this game. Must've been too dominant though Tekken 6 and TTT2
That is the thing, he doesn't suck :D
He really does though
@rhyan valk so few of us play at that level that it really doesn't matter
5:01 cursed wake up animation
it's alright though because it makes him an interesting character, have good combo but weak launcher, like heihachi having a good mid and overall but weak low, having a weakness in character only makes you think on how to cover it.
the thing is he has too many weaknesses and not only weak launchers. He has weak movement, bad frames overall and easily steppable.
i also wish
lars b4 was a counter hit launcher
His best CH move in the neutral, that is also relatively safe now is ff1+2, but the problem with this move is the ff input. It makes the move predictable and much slower than it actually is, additionally the combo is an instant screw so you don't take full advantage of his wall carry, which he is now so known for. On top of all that, it's extremely linear... I find it absurd that ff1+2 was -11 throughout the entirety of Tekken 7 until just recently with the season 4 patch that made it -9.....They keep buffing his stances, but what he needs the most help is in the neutral....
As a Lars player, IMO his difficulty should be high. No execution that much but you'll be tested on his gameplay. Maybe they can switch DF2,1 to during crouch DF2,1 and have the old classic Lars DF2 back since he already had silent entry 3+4 as tail spin for his combos.
Yes
no need to make df21 from FC, just make it an UF21 input lol, and bring back to the old df2, problem solved. I also would like his 1+2, 2 move, because it was cancellable, never understood why they got rid of that move just to make room for the RA input...1+2 inputs suck for rage art too since you can accidentally trigger it when trying to break 1+2 throws, his rage art input could have easily been something like F 2+3 or something or UB 1+2.
@@bludika that works too. Or maybe they should've removed D1+2 and replace it as a rage art command. That Low attack isnt good anyway. I also like your idea of bringing back Lars' 1+2,2. That way you can do some set ups.
@@caffeholictj1708 ehhhh d1+2 has its use, especially in the CBM combo, but yea, there was NO reason to remove the 1+2, 2 move...
Great Bandai Namco. Look what you have done to us Lars players.
his df2 should be like in ttt2 and his b4 should launch you like jins f4
Considering how flashy Lars is, his neutral movement should be on par with Zafina's. And for the same reason I think he should really has at least one good CH launcher.
Lars actually doesn't appear very agile, but rather, he's quick like a sprinter. Aesthetically, it makes sense for him to have quick moves that cover a lot of distance, but have high recovery, but it wouldn't really make sense for him to have small, nimble movements. I'm pretty sure a lot of his design and move bands take inspiration from lighting, which is linear, but fast and powerful. But again, that's just artistically speaking
@@painandpyro Yeah, I like your vision and explanation and I agree in certain things. But been inspired by lightning, Lars represent speed and fast dashing movement. For me it doesn't connect with sluggish side movement. He has entries, which still would seem more significant than any side-step and keep his forward movement his brightest characteristic, even if he had better side-steps and backdash. His stances looks cool, but gameplay wise he is slow. Not a lightning at all. It seems wrong to me.
@@WunjoYT I'm personally not a fan of him having an amazing sidestep (because I still have problems against him haha), but a happy middle ground could be some sort of lateral evasion out of either of his entries/other moves, like Alisa "sidestep" with chainsaws. His 14 frame pun and arc blast still feel very "fast" to me, but he seems like a character that's hard to balance, little tweaks make him either op or low tier, its hard to find a middle ground for him. Maybe making something like df21 minus 13? Or even similar to a normal df2? The thing is, you cant really (or at least, SHOULDNT) have amazing combos AND amazing launchers, so idk end of the day
Lars has not been the same since they replaced his standing d/f 2 in Tekken 7. It was such an important part of his offence because it was his only practical, low risk way of landing a CH launcher.
It's kind of funny that Lars like have to do everything to get one CH launcher, and then Lee, just press 4, boom, CH launcher.
@@Adam7180 BRO!! I can fight a Law or a Jin player and get launched just from anything they do. While with my Lars I have to literally CH to even get some damage in. I've been playing with Lars for a few years so I know what moves to use and how to set them up to get those CH so it's not too bad. I just wish Lars just one or two moves that could give him the advantage other characters have. I don't want him to be super strong but strong enough to compete with a good ass Kazuya or Jin player. Those guys will tear you apart if you don't know how to deal with them
@@azurviper513 i mean they are very strong characters
Give this man credits already
czcams.com/video/nOWUfne-M_4/video.html
(Look at the last combo atleast)
Mainman was right tho i didnt believed him first when he said u make a mistake if ur combo doesnt gets to wall with lars... what a wise man
It isn’t the longest distance , the bottom floor on fahks stage is way bigger
Doesn't the beach section of island paradise have the longest wall distance
Lars in Tekken 6 is brilliant and Tekken Tag 2 he wasn't bad either. Despite having a great drip he got nerfed to oblivion in Tekken 7 since he's a beginner character. Still have love for him even if he's no where near his Tekken 6 form.
Wow that wall carry is so strong… Harada pls nerf Gigas
Literally day 1, I noticed the huge changes with Lars and I don't like him vs his tekken 6 or tag 2 counterpart.
I think Lars is higher tier than trash tier with a defensive mindeset,
If he had Zafina's backdash, what would we be the result of the character is my question.
Lars won the Oceanic region tournament.
Will now pronounce Lars in Swedish. Very cool name!
LMG Mob won both TOC ( vs Kunimitsu) and EVO online (vs Akuma)
Binchang has won TEKKEN Online Challenge 2021 North America with lars so ..
I'm a Lars Main
Oh and de2 nice oki ground hitting safe ch launcher.
Lars is a doodoo in a peepee and kazuya is a peepee in a doodoo
I play this anime dude from tekken 6 (on psp) and now for me its normal after all this time to have bad loucher 😂
I can talk forever about what buff l wish for this character, but now its just doest matter, tekken 7 is almost done, and for 8 every character will change quite a bit so l'm pretty focus for the next game 😅
The full crouch df2 can get hit my magic 4s…makes absolutely no sense
Can someone tell me how to do a silent entry
I know how to do a dynamic entry but don't know how to do a silent entry
@@xprgaming4460 press foward on d-pad after dynamic...so f3 then press f..press db to cancel dynamic
fcdf2 doesnt have crouch status like some moves from fc like bryan fcdf4. as soon as you do the move he is considered standing so is vulnerable to highs.
@Stargazing Embers well…makes sense…thanks..ive tried every thought process of mine..didnt work..but yours makes sense 😂
Before I even watch the video -
1. Shit launcher damage. Most are like 20 but everybody else is like 25.
2. Great wall carry yes but have you ever heard of Infinite Azure?
3. Ark Blast or F+1+2 should be his fastest punish move imo. It needs a buff
1. His launcher damage is actually on the better end, most i15 launchers deal 13-15 damage.
2. Good point, though he still has good combo damage without walls. But it's a solid argument.
3. He actually has a 14 frame launcher, one of the few in the game, and with zero execution. Lars punishment most certainly does not need a buff, he's good one of the best in the game.
I personally feel like people are exaggerating about some of his weaknesses, and main reason is that he was busted before, and people got used to these versions of him. And also the fact that safe generic df2's are still a thing in this game, giving every other launcher a worse risk/reward ratio in comparison. Even though I personally believe that a -13 mid-mid super fast launcher that gives ~70 dmg or ~100+ with walls is a good in terms of risk/reward, it pales in comparison to the plethora of safe df2s, magic 4s and b1.
@@azaku9755 I normally don't agree with you on certain things, but I agree with you here 100%.
2. How many infinite stages are there? 10%??
@@Dr.Happy11 point 2 is weak tho
Means every statement weak
Just play Fahkumram KEKW
Lars isn't scary. No mixups, no pressure, no good CH game. Great defense, no real offense. I think the worse aspect that's holding him back is his lack of movement.
And unlike Gigas, his damage doesn't really make up for his lack of launch power. Gigas is almost always two good decisions from a round. Lars just doesn't have the output you'd look for with his tools.
Increase his movement, make 111 safe on block and force crouch on hit/block, and make df1,3 +4 on hit... Lars would be better. His just seriously has no viable options to get into his damage without block punishment or great conditioning.
Lars has mix ups, Lars has pressure, and Lars has a counter hit game. 111 safe on block? Bro do you even know how the game works?
@@UndefeatableKing what rank are you?
@@KNGDDDE Omega
@@UndefeatableKing that's sad lol
@@KNGDDDE Elaborate
Do a magic 4 tierlist
I'm confused, should a launcher be fast and safe on block??? Personally he is one of the most annoying characters because of that dash stance sou the whole match you see this crazy tornado of a lars just screaming and dashing all over the place it's a mess, they should have made him play a bit more normal imo
A launcher should be at least 15 frames but safe on block launcher is quite good, if Lars's f1+2 is -12, it is quite fine. A launcher for example Bryan's Jet Upper, it is 14 frames and it is safe on block and you can buffer it, that is extremely good, but in Lars's case, his most decent launcher from neutral is f1+2, its 15 frames and its -13. I don't really includes fb2,1. Sure it is a 14 frame launcher but it is a whopping -18 on block, every character in the cast can launch it.
Lars doesnt suck…he is very balanced…streamers want these op characters with unseeable lows..lars is good..he has a hell sweep…orbital with a devil jin hop kick…great punish..Yet again MM wants characters to have everything..
MM never said Lars is bad, he said he is mid tier and mid tier means balanced. He is just pointing out why Lars is not high tier or used by the best players in tournaments. Because there are much stronger characters in the game.
@@blankeon6613 well to me lars is a very good character with great mixups
Unseeable lows that doesn't launch is kind of fine to me, his hellsweep is slow af, orbital is slow af and so steppable.
Give this man credits already
czcams.com/video/nOWUfne-M_4/video.html
(Look at the last combo atleast)
Mainman was right tho i didnt believed him first when he said u make a mistake if ur combo doesnt gets to wall with lars... what a wise man
This stage does not have longest distance wall to wall. Longest is island paradise after balcony break, and Lars can't do wall to wall there
his point still stands tho, lars has the best wall carry. better than Nina and Julia and those good but rare Lee players
@@lloydlesliemaltezo2633 Yeah, true
I got my Lars to fujin then I got demoted back to eternal ruler lowkey fighting Marduk players is annoying cause he broke
Not every launcher is gonna get you to the wall. That wall carry you did can't be done from ark blast for example and it doesn't mean the Lars player is making any mistake
Ark Blast can actually gonna get you to the wall, I'm too lazy to write the combo, but it is possible.
Give this man credits already
czcams.com/video/nOWUfne-M_4/video.html
(Look at the last combo atleast)
Mainman was right tho i didnt believed him first when he said u make a mistake if ur combo doesnt gets to wall with lars... what a wise man
@@Adam7180 yeah its this link
Sad there are no voice mails here but yeah watch the link this lars will prove u wrong
@Sandartic
Back from a time You had respect for Lars players😁, in retrospect I don think he got that buffed in 8
where my lars mains at ⚡️
How can i buffer fb 1,2?
When you are blocking something, do fb, and when Lars has recovers from the block stun, just click 2,1.
Tendo watching this and swinging at the air rn.
He has ff1+2. quick rangy mid CH launcher in neutral. Safe with PUSHBACK. insanely cheap if you ask me. When I played him I did like 5 ff1+2s ever round. Steppable but the tracking isn't too bad. Gotta be timed.
It might have slightly less tracking and dmg than FC df2 but you don't lose your turn completely which is a big deal in neutral.
I wish ff1+2 launch on normal hit.
@@NormalHatter Even now its INSANELY strong tool. If it was NH launcher it would be absolutely busted. With that range and properties on block.
Up until s4 it was -11 and many characters could punish it. Right now its -9. Its good tool that he has, nothing too crazy or outstanding. And it doesn’t have THAT much pushback to say that you dont lose your turn
@@kaspermorrigan8722 It always had pushback. Not many chars have very rangy i11 moves at their disposal. Gigas I guess. At a good range.
And to the pushback... Let me say just this: If you hit it on roughly tip range Leroys orbital whiffs, his hellsweep whiffs. his jabs whiff, his df1 whiffs etc. etc. The pushback is not bad. And jabs and df1s whiff even on nonwhere near tip range.
I played Lars :) I know this stuff cause I abused it like crazy.
@@pablotheimmortal6440 you didn’t need rangy i11 at disposal. Being as inconsistent as T7 is, pushback is different every time you hit a move so I had my ff1+2 punished by kazuyas 112 for example
Man, after watching this video... Lars is still top tier to me 🤣🤣
Lars is cool for this but compared to Julia, she actually has a high crushing safe 15f launcher. Combine that with her insane wall carry, she has the best overall combos in the game.
They made is unsafe. Its not good anymore
@@TheUnique69able What are you talking about? Julia's QCF2 is 15f high, high crushes, safe on block. its -8. Her other 15f launcher df2,1 is unsafe at -18
@@bluelion7342 it's not 15, animation is 15 but you have to count at least 2 additional frames for the d and df input so at the fastest it's 17 frames
@@rikuheart91 its a 15 frame launcher.
@@bluelion7342 it's not
I actually think he's balanced the rest of the characters are bullshit
This ^^^
Nah he's not balanced. He literally lacks usable lows to complement his offense game
I mean, eddy and chloe is considered low tier but they do work both online and definitely tournaments. Johndding, Abel is already crazy with eddy. Now kaizer is doing work with Chloe as well. Nobody should be considered C tier and below imo. All of the casts do great damage including the bears. No character has no reason to be played because most likely, they’d have things that is crazy in terms of other higher tier characters [for some reason] or even in other characters in general. My point is that nobody is a bad character/bad picks because bad characters in Tekken 7 doesn’t exists. No cap.
The best combo character with a very weak launcer. That makes him really weak.
lars moves always pressing forward. even the simple bnb pokes. but cool moves
I love Lars and I learned the game with him but the more I learned the the less I enjoyed playing him. He's so clunky it feels like you're always playing at a huge disadvantage for no reason. I really hope he gets some adjustments soon
Yes Lars needs lots of buffs to his frames, better/more counter hit tools, and better/more homing moves. I really hope he gets those for tekken 8
This new school combo system angers me. Old school combo system was fun.
Why tho? Just asking
I was killed by a friend using lars with his fucking 90-100dmg combos - but it made me learn how to play Tekken, because I had to learn how not to get launched - or die
And he does not do much damage poking .you have to work so extra hard to win with this fool
you cant rly mention kazumi as a comparison and only mention that she has a magic 4(that gives her low damage) when all her other launchers are absolute poop
He's still my main lol
lars is nicu
Forgot about FhF2
Lars is forever my main. Good or bad
Also I’ll say Lars has a lot of weaknesses.
Lars Loyalist Here 🗣
He sucks in this game because he was so good (and easy to use) in Tekken 6 and Tag 2. Many people complained so he was nerfed a lot.
It's still funny why they won't fix him when characters like Leroy and Fahkumram exist...
hopefully dvj, leroy and fahk are trash in tekken 8 lol
@@aren5900 hopefully everyone EXCEPT Leroy, he's like the best newcomer in the game next to Lydia.
@@deanbrooks7297 yeah and he is busted, i'd love him to be more weak and complicated to play
The one time Harada listen to our shit
It would be better if they change the broken characters from time to time like in the RPG game Seige like for one month Claudio is broken then in another lars is broken. If it's hard to balance everyone then give everybody a chance to be broken
That’s way too much character balancing for one game
@@MasamuneIceDragon we shouldn't have this many characters anyway
@@roninhubbard9059 Nah. More the merrier
@@ev5837 😂😂 I like the way you think