TEKKEN 6 Lars Strength Explained Part 2 - Let's Get Detailed
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T6 Lars had Ultra Instinct while T7 Lars is getting blown up by Saibamen.
Facts
Could you maybe do some videos on all the other newcomers of Tekken 6 as well like Miguel, Alisa, Bob, Leo (or even Zafina) depending on if they were any special good or bad ?
TMM: look at that range!!
*whiffs the move*
Glad to see this addendum of Tekken 6 Lars. First video was not very indepth.
Imagine how good of a character Lars was in Tekken 6, MainMan made 2 videos about him. We need that DF+2 back in 7.
Make the first hit a counter. Problem solved I think
@@smashrag9592 he's F,B+2, 1 should've been removed (since we don't see it that much anymore) and change it's animation to the DF+2, 1 we have now since 7 uses a Screw! for it's staple combos. Paul's bound move the B+1, 2 changed it's animation to be a Screw! move in 7. I don't see why they needed to keep Lars' F,B+2, 1 since 7 doesn't use a bound in it's staple combos and we rarely see it used as a launcher/whiff punish tool even in 6, we have ark blast(F,1+2) for that. Lars desperately needs that DF+2 back.
@@renzojz fb21 has bigger range than Arc blast tho
@@renzojz
You definitely don't wanna remove fb21.
Lars fb21 is an i14 mid launcher with decent range. In Tekken 7 it's the best it has ever been as a move since you get a full combo.
@@tippingguy8514 Recoiling Cobra55 you are definitely making a point and I understand you're basing your opinions on what we currently have right now. I do not disagree whatsoever.
However, given that Lars already has two standing launchers, isn't it a nice feature that he had a 12 frame poking tool that is safe on block (-9), crumples/launches on counter hit? Heck, even Steve has one, Kazuya's DF+2 is still there. It has been a low risk high reward move ever since and one of the reasons that made him a notoriously known character. It is definitely superior than F,B+2 1 in one way or another. It's not even a broken move since you lose your turn when they block it, given that it is a -9, thats just one frame away from eating a flash punch combo. And don't forget we rarely see F,B+2 1 used back then since his poking game was so absurd that an opponent can't wait to interrupt your pressure and by doing so to try and interrupt this said pressure, next thing you know they got hit by a counterhit DF+2.
I just wish DF+2 was never removed in the first place and maybe we'll still see a lot of Lars players today.
He will always be my main i just loved both his 1p and 2p outfit and his moves looked cool and badass
He made me want white jeans they’re badass
@@bludika Those aren't jeans, tho. They're leather, most likely.
@@wildman7220 who knows...
Only T6 Lars needs 2 videos on his strengths lmao
incoming 20 vid playlist for bob...
@TMMSWE, Would it interest you to do a video on your favorite Tekken combo mechanics. So basically, bounds vs spirals (screws attacks?). Which 1 do you prefer & why? The vid could also focus on the visual aspects of the two styles. Also, if you were to design Tekken 8, how would you like the combo mechanics to be set up? I thought this might be interesting for you to explore. Just a thought, think about it 👍🏽.
There you go, you really nailed it with this one. :)
Could you do guides for guilty gear because your breakdowns for tekken 6 back in the day, turned my game around not just for tekken but for all fighting games tbh
So next you will make videos on ttt2
Rana 526 C’mon TMM JUST started Tekken 6 videos and people already asking for TTT2. Of course he’s gonna cover that game AFTER he finishes this.
@@MKAddict after tag 1
😍
You talked about how strong Miguel was on this game. Will we get a video about the spanish brawler with normal sized arms?
I really hope there's a season 3 and that Lars gets a few buffs. He's so close to being a really good character in T7. Just one plus-on-hit low that's not launch punishable OR a good CH-tool would instantly rocket him to mid/top tier.
That and a good "get out of my face" move. Seriously any character than rushes him has the advantage.
We did it
can you do my boy sasuke...i mean jin kazama
f,b+2,1 is still a launcher. It's MORE of a launcher in Tekken 7 because you don't sacrifice the combo gimmick in that game (you can still tailspin after doing it; as of Season 4 it does as much damage as his u/f+4 combo to the digit).
I don't know if the frames are worse, though. That could matter.
To be honest, I don't have much problems with Lars in T7.
He's still fun to use.
Seiryu only thing I hate about him is his Hopkick and his low pokes in t7
@@butwhytho4445 Yeah, for me they useless.
I never used his low pokes.
They should Lars his power back.
Tekken 7 Lars sucks because his defult costume suck, tekken 6/ttt2 defult costume is better
@@5000KAITOSHION I prefer the one in T7 actually. Tastes! Sad they nerfed his ass.
up forward three into up forward 4 set up some nice combos
Lars’s New df2,1 is so under appreciated.
A 16 frame natural combo launcher that has a huge range, it crushes high pretty consistently, the first hit is safe and tracks the right, his weak side, and the second hit tracks to his left side, so it’s technically a homing move. Yes it’s a mid high string, but unless you’re extremely predictable with it, it’s kinda difficult to duck, and honestly, no one ducks strings online lol.
compare it to his old df2 and you'll see why it's considered to be a bad move
His new df21 is better if you are against scrubs.
Any decent player will have their peepers open then duck and launch punish that shit.
Recoiling Cobra55 even if at high level of play, the fact that he has a launcher that tracks to his right side is great, you can only use df2 to get a mental frame advantage there, use df2,1 occasionally to discourage opponent from attacking after df2. And realistically talking, most people are scrubs in this game, in online environments you can’t find good players unless you’re fujin and above, and really no one uses lars, you can get away with df2,1 a lot.
df 2,1 has some range to it as well which is good for whiff punishing. You can also dish out decent damage after hitting df 2,1
Azaku
It has a better range than any other df2 in the game( except for jack 7 ? ) it tracks to both side, and it offer a mental frame advantage. While I do believe that his older df2 is better, the new one is not that bad.
I’m a kazumi genbu, I can’t remember seeing someone ducking 3,2. Even purple ranks people find it difficult to duck a 15 frame mid high string, especially in an online environment, just don’t abuse it.
Imagine if he had Mjolnir and his hell sweep as a stance mix
You forgot tell about 1+2 move, great move for some combos and it's been removed like DE 1+2 and df2. I very miss all this moves.
I thought I’m the only one who like that move
wow..now i know how buff he was..crazy
Built in defense in offense is annoying cause your more so fighting a character than a player and when good people use that kind of character equals oh crud but using Bryan against this type of stuff fundamentals got to be so on point and I speak from experience takes alot of work cause if I mess up execution I get worked
A Jim video is coming up I assume...
Men I want that Lars outfit in t7
In T5 Dragunov was quite weak. What's with him in T6?
He’s much better he’s high mid tier
Easy poking space control, mid low mix up and high plus frames
He got a lot better, but not as much of an improvement as Armor King.
D/f+2 had borderline no range, and he still didn't have the d/f+3 cancel, so no advanced combos were available.
iirc, one of his jab strings was 0 on block?
Aris went over Dragunov in Tekken 6 back in a really old iteration of Level Up Your Game on Rip's channel if you dig. He's fairly strong, but not monstrous. I would say upper-mid tier.
@@RisingJericho d/f+3? You mean f+3, d/f
He's a god
Can I just point out the juxtaposition of complaining how much Lars is like Superman,
but we were introduced to Devil Jin in Tekken 5?
Lars' d3, 1 was quite unique as well. Fairly weak but if you wanted to literally pull someone to the wall behind you or switch sides and get some spacing whilst putting in a cheeky 10 - 15 damage, d3, 1 was a good ender.
Its still the same in t7
@@saadhasan2518 no where near it's reach though
@@joshuajames235 they nerfed Lars range in both tag 2 and t7 quite a lot
Funny part is that his wall combo didn't work against bears. Still doesn't in T7 lol
We need TMM to cover Alisa T6
So this why my character got nerf
Lars also had a just frame DE 1,2 that gives a double hit with his DE 1. If you press 2 at the same time DE 1 hits, DE 1 will give a double hit that gives twice the damage than the normal one. They removed that in the following Tekken games.
Yeah, when mastered. That shit is so strong as an ender.
i didn’t know it was a just frame , i always did that at scrubby days in tag 2
@@mshklh2099 Then it's wrong. It's only a T6 specific just-frame.
Is it just me or even after 6-7 years the character models and stage details look better on T6? Did Namco screw up with the Unreal engine?
Pretty sure they did.
If you want a great example of how strong Lars is in T6, his b1 could punish Heihachi's ff+2.
He can still punish it with b 3,4 which is much better.
@@tl_nik0n353 No he cannot, you're fcking stupid
Lars Mighty Ruler here and main....please buff my boy. I really hate how Lars hater say, oh Lars doesn't suck learn MU...yeah ok mishima players lol. Out my face with that bs, T6 Lars for life. And bring back his 3rd costume from tekken, that was legit the best costume hands down...
Lars tekken god prime here loved his 1p and 3p outfits really enjoyed him in this game his moveset was badass and yeah tekken 6 Lars 4 life
Lars was such a beast that he needed 2 vids damn
i remeber leo begin great with back 1 and everything
Hi, im a tekken noob, it would be great if you wrote the move buttons on screen 😃
ah good ol days
Very nice bro😍
Paul is a beginner character yet you play him. He has a df2 that crushes highs and is a safe launcher.
it also continues the combo when hits characters airborne -with the same follow ups!-
that’s cheesy
Please do Lee!
Damn you are like a PHD in tekken, or a professor even lol
If Lars retained the Mjolnir in T7, his DE mixup would be wack
I fail to see how it wouldn't make DE a better stance
Jin T6 let's go
His orbital doesnt crush shit in Tekken 7
He hit the nail on the head. I played Lars because I had bad movement and he had movement built into his moves.
So basically Lars was the Noctis of Tekken 6?
Rheinard Roasted lmao
Why don't you give Lee some love TMM
Next up : Bryan Fury !
TMM I know how to beat Eliza online, have bad connection. Lol my offense is cut in half on three bars. Haha. As for ling I have no clue going mid is all I got, but we all knew that. Sorry for going of topic.
you should watch Aris streams
cuz these kind of questions he love ;)
Are you going to Headstomper?
Ik he was cheap but god damn I love this character lol the bf2 was definitely my favorite move of his but I actually still haven't really played t7 except the story on my Bros PS4 but is that move actually gone cus I'mma be sick lol
u mean fb2,1 .. it still in t7
@@tsurara6584 its even better in t7 too
Where is lee at 😭
It was not uncommon for me to screw up f, b+2,1 and get b+2,1 back then.
Happened to me as well. It's due to doing the move too early so the forward doesn't register.
Jin pls
Still waiting for Gigas to get justice.
Eliza is worse tho
@@mshklh2099 Hell no Eliza has some cheese to her
MAINMAN YOU DIDN'T FIGHT NANCY IN T6 YET
I like lars design. His hair is pretty cool but i do love anime so that's probably why
Steve next?
Lol his little cape moves when he walks
Cheers o7 ORA
Waiting for Bob😂
First 100 viewers. We're early..
lars De into 1+2 got nerfed on tt2 doenst launch anymore even in ch , buff on T7 into high launcher
Being a high isn't a buff...
just want df2 back
What's up with Lars and broken 12f punishes? It happened at the start of T7 S2 (I think) and in this game
His 12f isn't broken it's just good. And even WITH that good 12f punish he's trash in T7. For fucks sake Mishimas have a 10f punish that knocks down and wall splats but I've never seen anyone say flash punch is broken.
@@tl_nik0n353 Wall splats? Only Heihachi's can splat -_-
It was f 2,1 which was a natural combo into SE 1 or his rage drive on a 12 frame punish. Using SE 1 gave him really good damage and was a wall bounce. Using his rage drive can net you so much damage without a wall.
@@vidalzazueta4678 thanks for explaining it, I couldn't be bothered to. And Nikon, I said at the START OF T7 S2 for that reason. Even I knew about it and my highest rank on a character is only juggernaut
Thanks for clarifying it was a 12f tho, for some reason I thought it might've been a 14f
miguel is cool
#BuffLars
Jin kazama?¿ 👀
Swedish Goku = Lars
People whatching this this kind of vidios about Bob lars, bryan and steve and in the end you will fight against howroang, alisa and Lili players online you cant even move or react
TMM inhumanly ducking Made me laugh out loud in Public looked good.
point the minute bro
@@mshklh2099 11:18 onwards
B+3,4 is not a punisher in this game its 20 frames fast in T6.
Whiff punisher
It has HUGE range, used as a whiff punisher
Clyine you didn’t need it his FB 21 could consistently punish death fist , uf3 also got the job done
Can you please explain why tekken is not as famous as sf and mk even though the game sold more than them ?
Tekken is harder to get into and master.
i thought tekken is more popular and realistic
SF, legacy, that series created fighting games as we know them and 3rd Strike and 4 are very highly regarded. 5 beign a disappointing game doesn't change that, Street Fighter built a serious reputation.
MK, presentation. Violence sells, and MK games have tons of single player content. Basically it's the one fighting game that has casual gamers on lock, although it struggles to truly solidify itself as an esports series. In fact, you could argue that Tekken 7 and MK11 have polar opposite issues, but that's the gist of it.
Ahh professor cringe
Your analysis is perceptive and treasured
Does lars df1 still high crush in t7 ?
No
Leo’s does
It absolutely does, just not reliably. It didn't crush reliably in this game either, you basically have to get lucky or be a literal cyborg to time it correctly.
you should talk about asuka!
What was so special about her in this game?
funny how people cry about lars gimmicks and super human powers while u have fcking kunimitsu that naruto charecter
I KNOW RIGHT! This video aged like milk.
#BuffLars
#BuffLee
#BuffTheCousins
You should make videos about the best Tekken, Tekken 3!
Lars has always been a fundamental based character. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
LOL good one
There's no joke here bud.
@@tl_nik0n353 crushing everywhere. Annoying lows. Safe launchers. Eeasy long ranged launchers. Damn that must be the most fundimental character in tekken :D
His best crush move is like -10000 on block. Don't press buttons you won't eat a lightning screw.
He doesn't have good low pokes and all his big lows are launch punishable.
df2 is CH launch and is -9. Loses his turn.
None of his launchers are safe.
@@tl_nik0n353 well hes made to be noob friendly. Dont expect him to be mishima level but he doesnt require much skills to play
I am a beginner in Tekken , but I went straight to Ultra Hard in every game mode in 5 DR and I am really am getting better with movements , starting to do some combos , slowly getting the hang off of electrics (using Kazuya btw) and only started 5DR for like two weeks or probably less.
So what beginners of tekken games should really start to do is to get their ass beaten with a moderate-hard to use characters , it's more rewarding when you figure things out with hard characters , easy characters will most likely make the game boring if anything.
lol Kazuya and hard? Zero decision making, tons of damage and like 50 moves in total. Hes braindead and overpowered.
Zhiph Agreed
Main men
of corse of course
why isn't this costume in tekken 7? it looks so much better than his current outfit.
Belive it or not Even his easy combos in here were still harder than most of his combos in tekken 7. 7 dumbs down even easy characters. #make tekken hard again
Yeah lol if you wanted wall carry after uf4 or DEN 1+2 you have to time the f123 string. No need for that in tekken 7.
Also df1 into dash db2 is kinda tricky in T6. df1 into b3 is easy and consistent in t7.
I really disliked in T6 cause how stupid he looked and how broken he was but I sympathize with him in T7