Why the Jedi Thought Anakin Was a TERRIBLE Master to Ahsoka (CANON)

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  • čas přidán 5. 07. 2024
  • Breaking down why Ahsoka Tano's apprenticeship to Anakin Skywalker during The Clone Wars was ultimately a failure, leaving both of them in dark places...
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  • @karanhdream
    @karanhdream Před 2 měsíci +68

    Ahsoka is probably Anakin's greatest achievement. He trained a free thinker, a survivor and skilled warrior. She grew to have the courage to do what he could not, leave the Jedi Order. Ahsoka leaving is no failure on Anakin's part, it's an absolute success.

    • @user-tp7up8lg1d
      @user-tp7up8lg1d Před 2 měsíci +11

      And she became one of the founding fathers of the Rebel Alliance alongside Commander Rex, Senator Mothma, and Senator Organa.

    • @Edward-nf4nc
      @Edward-nf4nc Před 2 měsíci +5

      Anakin trained Ashoka to be the one character Star Wars got right.
      She played a large roll in setting up the Rebellion, which played a 90% success in destroying the Empire and the Sith!
      She aided the Ghost Crew a lot
      She out lived them all.
      She got Grogu to Luke for some training.
      She helped get Ezra back to the galaxy far far away, from a galaxy even further away! So he could warn the New Republic and help them against Thrawn.
      She's also going to play a large roll in stopping Baylon and his plans, even if she dies here.
      As long as she lives to see the victory, she will have the perfect ending. She will die a hero with the perfect ending! It will be sad when Ashoka dies, but it's better to die having seen victory after defeating a great evil, than dying when Luke's Jedi Order is destroyed!
      We know she's dead in 35ABY as we hear her speak to Rey, so stopping Baylon's plans and seeing the victory is the perfect ending for the greatest non Jedi or Sith in the galaxy's history!
      Anakin was the perfect Master for Ashoka! Yoda's best decision in the worst of times.

    • @pop-culturecinephile8144
      @pop-culturecinephile8144 Před měsícem +1

      Yeah, it’s true that he did succeed with her, but in a way, her abandoning Anakin might sound like she failed him

  • @OreskisVR
    @OreskisVR Před 2 měsíci +54

    Yet Ahsoka survived & the Jedi Order was destroyed. Anakin was an excellent Master to Ahsoka regardless of what the Jedi or Council thought🔥👍

    • @calebgraham6166
      @calebgraham6166 Před 2 měsíci +1

      I believe Ahsoka Tano had the best training from Anakin Skywalker. If Ahsoka Tano had stayed in the order dhe would've been made a Jedi Knight.

  • @elmermedina1713
    @elmermedina1713 Před 2 měsíci +36

    Man, the way the Jedi treated and viewed Anakin. Is it any wonder the guy turned to the dark side?

    • @aliastheabnormal
      @aliastheabnormal Před 2 měsíci +8

      The only reason that they didn't throw Anakin to the wolves was because of Qui-Gon.

    • @Edward-nf4nc
      @Edward-nf4nc Před 2 měsíci +4

      If the Jedi had cast Anakin from the Jedi Order, Sidious would have acted at once. Anakin would agree to join Sidious seeing that he was the only mentor he had that had ever cared for him! The Dark Lord of the Sith cared for him, the Jedi kicked him out because they were jealous of him! Sidious would say the Jedi were evil and that Qui-gon, Dooku, Pon Krill, Barris and Ashoka had all seen it, and how the Jedi had treated Anakin was the proof. He might even say that the Chosen One was meant to bring balance to the Force by killing the evil in the galaxy, the Jedi! This would make perfect sense to Anakin and he would agree to join the Sith and save the galaxy by destroying the evil Jedi!
      To be honest I think I could see Sidious's point of bringing balance to the Force by killing the Jedi!

  • @DLR1997
    @DLR1997 Před 2 měsíci +14

    And ironically they were the ones who put her there in the first place

  • @pop-culturecinephile8144
    @pop-culturecinephile8144 Před 2 měsíci +18

    They’re just making themselves look bad. Anakin was the best master to train Ahsoka. They were just angry that Anakin wasn’t following their ways.

    • @calebgraham6166
      @calebgraham6166 Před 2 měsíci +1

      The Qui-Gon Jinn method don't follow the Council's Decisions.

    • @Vietmac1993
      @Vietmac1993 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@calebgraham6166Anakin made the best of what he learned from Qui Gon Jinn in a short amount of time and passed it on to Ahsoka. It's sad Anakin never had the opportunity to learn more from Qui Gon

    • @calebgraham6166
      @calebgraham6166 Před 2 měsíci

      @@Vietmac1993 Exactly bro Qui-Gon Jinn was Anakin's ideal Jedi/Father Figure at the time before Obi-Wan Kenobi trained him.

    • @user-pi1vx4ee8m
      @user-pi1vx4ee8m Před měsícem

      Another reason why the Jedi failed Anakin. He just needed someone close to a parental figure

  • @user-ol5ru8pk1z
    @user-ol5ru8pk1z Před 2 měsíci +4

    Your videos get better all the time. Helluva watch and it gives us all a lot more to think about.

  • @LifeFX856
    @LifeFX856 Před 2 měsíci +27

    who else wants a live action clone wars production with Hayden
    👇

    • @Edward-nf4nc
      @Edward-nf4nc Před 2 měsíci +2

      I would, but it would likely have been done by Disney, who destroy Star Wars and the galaxy and timeline far, far away! Best to stick with what we have!

    • @LifeFX856
      @LifeFX856 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@Edward-nf4nc that's fair

  • @GATCHAMANforever
    @GATCHAMANforever Před 2 měsíci +2

    Amazing how they threw her under the bus and how Anakin did everything he could to defend her.

  • @user-pi1vx4ee8m
    @user-pi1vx4ee8m Před měsícem +1

    Anakin and Ahsoka were both did dirty by the Jedi Council just because they always mistreat Anakin because of his emotions and having to cast Ahsoka out of the Order like a stray despite knowing her since she first came.

  • @daryljr5361
    @daryljr5361 Před 2 měsíci +2

    My take he wouldn't have fell to the dark side so early if she didn't leave

  • @kellygreenii
    @kellygreenii Před 2 měsíci +29

    Anakin and Ahsoka loved each other like brother and sister. The intensity of his concern for her was because he considered her family and he was terrified of losing those close to him.
    Obi-wan understood this about him. That he was loyal to people not principles.
    “I won’t abandon you this time”
    -Ahsoka to Vader.

    • @Chrisreyes999
      @Chrisreyes999 Před 2 měsíci +9

      Yeah ppl don’t realize his mother dying might have started anakins dark side nature, but Ashoka leaving is what left anakin all alone to be manipulated by Palpatine. Anakin tried to stay good for Ashoka as he felt like a role model towards her but once she left it was over.

    • @owenhans3633
      @owenhans3633 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Just like how Luke liked his sister

    • @elektronischemusik1903
      @elektronischemusik1903 Před 2 měsíci +3

      and she was a good friend 😂

    • @owenhans3633
      @owenhans3633 Před 2 měsíci

      @@elektronischemusik1903and she was dummy thicc

    • @calebgraham6166
      @calebgraham6166 Před 2 měsíci

      Maybe Anakin should've called Padmé in front of Ahsoka and asked her if we can adopt her as our daughter.

  • @kaiyz4222
    @kaiyz4222 Před 2 měsíci +31

    Sadly. Most of the jedi didnt save thier padawans from order 66. Anakin unknowingly did

    • @calebgraham6166
      @calebgraham6166 Před 2 měsíci +1

      By giving her those sabers and training in Form 5 Djem So

    • @Fuzzmo147
      @Fuzzmo147 Před 2 měsíci +1

      And getting stunned many many times by the 501st

  • @soularprimestudios5930
    @soularprimestudios5930 Před 2 měsíci

    If they thought this I think Ahsoka would disagree strongly lol

  • @georgepapatheofilou6118
    @georgepapatheofilou6118 Před 2 měsíci

    Just because he'd not teach Ahsoka how to cook eggs is Obi Wan and his teacher Qui Gon carry on fault. Enough written time to feed the kitten.

  • @ciscoak9074
    @ciscoak9074 Před 2 měsíci +16

    Ashoka is the female version of anakin if he never turned to the darkside. A huge reason ashoka succeeded where anakin couldn't was because she had anakin as a master..since anskin so sooo much like her, he knew what she needed and approached her training how he wished obiwan would have approached himself!! He let ashoka make very important adult decisions and TRUSTED her opinion..wheras obiwan trained anakin by how he thought the jedi council wanted him to train anakin. He trained him in a strict "by the book" way in spite of knowing deep down that it's not what anakin needed or is responding well to.obiwan knew the council was afraid of his power and potential and that fear made obiwan subconsciously ( or consciously) not trust anakin 100%.. this is exactly what caused resentment and mutual distrust to build within anakin which ultimately led to him putting more of his trust in palpatine instead, the one man who seemingly DID trust him..all of this is why anakin trained ashoka completely differently.didnt EVER want her not to trust him and vice versa, so he gave her probably more trust than he actually should have given a TEENAGER 2hich could have backfired horribly..instead it built her up to be a general and great leader AS A TEENAGER!! knowing her master always had her back whether she made good calls or not!! He always trusted her opinion and he wanted her to KNOW he trusted her just as much as he longed for obiwan to trust him on that type of level..its why anakin ALWAYS went out of his way to save her life even when other masters were ready to write off their padawans sacrifice (like luminara did with bariss), or go out of his way to prove her innocents, doing everything he could when she got possessed and DIED, only surviving because the daughter gave up her life-force for her..all of these situations were times where other "lesser" masters would have given up, "left it in the forces hands" ect..anakin never played those games with her life EVER!! to him it was "if the force won't save her I will!!", these are all the reasons ashoka remained on a righteous path..she always have that support that anakin sadly didn't have enough of..she never felt betrayed or forsaken and the one time she did anakin was there catch her..im not saying obiwan was a bad master, he was the wrong master for anakin and the choices he made by training him by the book is what ultimately drove him to the darkside..we all know how fundamentally flawed "by the book" was in hindsight.

    • @Vietmac1993
      @Vietmac1993 Před 2 měsíci +8

      Anakin's approach was based upon his limited interaction with Qui Gon. He saw how rebellious and stubborn Qui Gon was. However Anakin lacked the wisdom and discipline Qui Gon had. Qui Gon believed the Jedi Code were mere guidelines and that the Will of the Force were more important than rules or politics. Rules are important but they are not always 100% effective. Doing things by the book should be plan A but if the book doesn't provide answers or direction, then you should think creatively.

  • @aronmakan
    @aronmakan Před 2 měsíci +11

    Watching this at 2 am...

    • @BUENOSDIAS77126
      @BUENOSDIAS77126 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Who gives an f

    • @aronmakan
      @aronmakan Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@BUENOSDIAS77126 your mom to anyone with 20 bucks

    • @BUENOSDIAS77126
      @BUENOSDIAS77126 Před 2 měsíci

      @@aronmakan Don't burn the few braincells left

  • @user-dr7eq1lx5v
    @user-dr7eq1lx5v Před měsícem

    “The Jedi had freed him from slavery.” Partially Wrong. It was Qui-Gon Jinn the true Jedi had freed him not the Order

  • @aliastheabnormal
    @aliastheabnormal Před 2 měsíci +41

    This comes from the same people who used Ahsoka as a pawn, threw under the bus, dragged her back to fight Maul, and then let all of their younglings die.

    • @anessamer
      @anessamer Před 2 měsíci +2

      Well after all they couldn’t stand against the power of Order 66.

  • @AcapachVideo
    @AcapachVideo Před 2 měsíci +4

    I am getting massive insight in these SW content.

  • @cosmicredeemer3109
    @cosmicredeemer3109 Před 2 měsíci +9

    The Jedi is accusing Anakin of being a bad master? That’s like the Jedi saying that Anakin is a threat oh wait, they have

    • @samparsons5867
      @samparsons5867 Před 2 měsíci +3

      The clone Wars build up the reason why Anakin was denied the rank of Master. Because his apprentice I walked away

  • @MutantsInDisguise
    @MutantsInDisguise Před 2 měsíci +1

    Maybe this is the only time I agree with the Jedi Order. For their neglect of Anakin Skywalker, they knew he would be terrible as a teacher.

  • @ghostface4404
    @ghostface4404 Před 2 měsíci +4

    I find myself having to agree with the council on this one. After all, Ashoka bombard the Jedi Temple and then, she tried to frame her friend, Barriss Offee and joined the Empire...

    • @MasterJade
      @MasterJade Před 2 měsíci

      And during this, Ahoksa didn't listen Anakin AT ALL, she just ran away, and helped even more to the enemy, made the council more suspicious.

    • @ghostface4404
      @ghostface4404 Před 2 měsíci

      @@MasterJade he was such a terrible master to her... this is why I want Sabine to rebuild the Mandalorians with Force teachings and replace the Jedi.

    • @DLR1997
      @DLR1997 Před 2 měsíci +1

      I hope that you're joking

    • @ghostface4404
      @ghostface4404 Před 2 měsíci

      @@DLR1997 you can't smell my sarcasm?

    • @hellstrom4209
      @hellstrom4209 Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@MaraJadeSkywalker. You clearly can't tell this person isn't being serious.

  • @robertdtimmerman
    @robertdtimmerman Před 2 měsíci +8

    Anakins marriage was not Padme being “possessed” by him. Anakin did not own Padme. This terminology used by the Jedi council is flawed.

    • @RetneysHolocron
      @RetneysHolocron  Před 2 měsíci +3

      He literally did want to possess her tho! Attachment is possession. He couldn’t accept ever letting her go, which is why he turned to the dark side

    • @mariusconstantin6057
      @mariusconstantin6057 Před 2 měsíci +2

      ​@@RetneysHolocronmore like had a snake for a confidant

    • @scubasteve1555
      @scubasteve1555 Před 2 měsíci +6

      @@RetneysHolocron
      Disagree, that’s not how regular marriage works. Attachment isn’t possession and not wanting to loose your wife is a normal emotion. I’ve never bought the argument that was the reason he turned to the dark side.

    • @Crazy-Gaonk
      @Crazy-Gaonk Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@RetneysHolocron bro 💀

    • @MataNui.
      @MataNui. Před 2 měsíci

      @@scubasteve1555 I mean, he took it pretty friggin far. It's not really him not wanting to lose his wife that proves he was overly attached to people he cared about, it's the lengths he was willing to go to to keep it from happening. In ROTS he pretty much caused the thing he was trying to prevent.