Where Did Mama Odie Come From? | Princess and the Frog Theory: Discovering Disney
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Mama Odie is one mysterious woman which is why I just had to theorize on her backstory!
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Mama Odie is the fascinating woman of the bayou who lives in a boat in a tree, kisses her snake, falls asleep at random times, and can look into the past through a bathtub filled with gumbo. Her wisdom is deep and her lessons are pure, but I always wanted to understand her more so to do that today I’m going to dive in to attempt to explain throughout this video where she came from. And let me tell you, I think her story is much darker than I had originally ever considered.
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Do Dipper and Mabel Pine's Full Backstory.
Can you please do Bens Backstory!
So, if the shadow man and mama odi had to fight with all they had, who would win?
We don't want to see your stupid face. Go back to doing the old videos where we didn't see your face . Please thank you 🙏👌
Senju Uchiha, Not cool, man. 😠
She looks really good for a 197 year old blind woman
I know this is stupid, but I have to say it: Black don't crack.
😂😂 I can't bruh!!
LyraFerret Black don’t crack
Just WhoTheFuckAreYou? Lol they do and they wrinkle
Bet she still looks as good at 300 years old today
I wonder if she was born blind or became blind in order for her to “see” the true needs of people?
She's elderly your sight can go
I mean yeah, but with the magic she knew she could've kept her sight perhaps? Does open a possibility she had to self sacrifice for more power
@@oooh19 Yeah, but in the movie you can see her eyes and teeth are in two jars.
I see the symbolism, for both love and Justice are blind you kinda had her hand in both in this movie
The cunning!!!
Mama Odie: The Rafiki of New Orleans
OMGGGG YAAASSSSS
A female Yoda with Louisiana as USA version of Dagobah
Beyond what you see
Jaya Dawson lol, yeah, that's racist 😄
I agree
I believe mama odie is the opposite of dr faciliar despite having the same powers of voodoo
True (fun fact, Dr. Facilier was originally intended to be Mama Odie's son, but the writers thought that it would add too much to the plot for the audience to keep track of the important details, so they took that bit out. However, Dr. Facilier does make one reference to his mom, by saying "I'm a royal myself on my mama's side". What if, not only was he the son of Mama Odie, but using that line as a reference to her status as a Voodoo queen? ) If Isaac's theory is true about her being a former slave, I highly doubt an actual queen would be enslaved. So...what if that was actually the case? ...
Voodoo is actually one of the few schools of magic that has an inherent dark and light side, both necessary for the universe to work.
@@grace5033 The Voodoo queen in actual history is a woman named Marie Laveau, in the 1800s, born 1801. But she wasn't a slave, she was born a free woman. But, that's basic knowledge to people who practice voodoo, like myself, or anyone that watched the inaccurate version of her in the third season of American Horror Story. But, that's who I thought she was the entire time. Especially, when she called herself a "Voodoo Queen" the nickname given to the actual Voodoo Queen of New Orleans. She was known to help many people in need, and she also teamed up with a pastor to free slaves.
@@treyonay she was just one of them. There were many of them
Even though they're on different sides, they both know that what you want and what you need are completely different.
Thanks for respecting the history of slavery in America and the cultures of the West African diaspora. ❤️💚🧡
I want to like your comment but then it will be uneven 😰
pine oftheberry It’s 201.
No it’s 202
Louis - "Are you sure this is the right blind voodoo lady living in a boat in a tree in the bayou?"
Ray - "Pretty sure."
Does that mean there's more blind voodoo ladies living in boats in trees in bayous?
I think at least three more of them lol
Lol!
You clearly never been to the parts of Louisiana outside of New Orleans... there's a bunch of weird s*** out there
@@angelwhispers2060 - The closest I've been to Louisiana is Florida.
I love when you include historical context to your videos! They're also so accurate and it shows that you really do your research when dissecting whatever show/movie you're reviewing.
I respect how you talked about her. I am a black women and I enjoyed your synopses of her. Respect ✊
Monique Green I really hold my breath when non black people talk about our history and origins. He did wonderful and was respectful ☺️
I always thought that those teeth and 2 eyes in the jar were hers.
Perhaps she had to sacrifice her eyes to keep her powers. I mean, what are the odds that the 2 things she does not have "eyes and teeth" are in the jar and responding to people as if she can see through them and use them?
I love that theory
Oooh!
From an Anthropologist, the level of knowledge you spoke of in this video makes me proud. Its basic level (think undergrad, sophomore/junior level), but factually accurate and I'm just BEAMING, Isaac!!! Keep this up!!!
I really appreciate you saying that! I put a lot of research into this one!
Are you studying to be an anthropologist?
@@oooh19 i am one. 😎✌
Ikr! Being black myself I'm surprised how accurate he pulled this off
@@IsaacCarlson Yes great job & it was done so respectfully 👌🏾
Do you think the entity that Mama Odie uses to help people instead, took her eyesight as an exchange? (And extending her live, as long as they'd 'work' together.)
Great idea!
There isn't always a need for "exchange", it's not stated in the movie so most likely not. Besides, West Africans unlike other cultures have high regards for physical deficiencies. Albinos and ADHD type personalities in African spirituality are seen as highly sacred.
Quick Fact: Sugarcane plantations were prominent in the bayou regions and other regions of Louisiana. Sugarcane still grows there today, and many plantations (no longer in operation) are still standing.
I really really want to know Tiana's mother full story
Why?
Same that sounds fun
cassyluv Sanchez this would be amazing
Her mom has always reminded me of Rosa Parks
@@mikaelacolwell5644 woah
What do you think of the scraped movie idea where Doctor Facilier was Momma Odi's son and there was gonna be an epic battle of light vs dark at the climax
I'd love that....so much.....
that sounds AWESOME
Neevkl _7 the princess and the frog star wars edition
Facilier would have ended her lol
They always scrap good ideas. I love the emperors new groove but the movie it almost was was epic. Look up kingdom of the sun
Mama odie reminds me of Suga Mama from The Proud Family.
Those two would totally share stories with each other.
Yes, Jo Marie Payton plays both the voice of Suga Mama from the Proud Family and Mama Odie from Princess and the Frog. Some people who grew up in the 90's might remember a show called Family Matters which Jo Marie Payton plays the wife in the sitcom. She's super talented! 🔥🙌🏽😊
@@ariahlea1186 Actually Jenifer Lewis voiced Mama Odie. I used to think that Jomarie Payton voiced her like she voiced Suga Mama, but its actually Jenifer Lewis, aka. The mother of Black Hollywood who voiced her.
Gera WallStar oh wow thank you for that!
@@gerawallstar3487 Jenifer Lewis also voiced Sugar Mama's sister
Mama Odie is my grandma. Not like a representation of my actual grandma, but I've adopted her as my grandma
When Mama Odie background is more interesting than the whole movie. I want a Mama Odie movie so bad.
That was amazing!! Could you do one about Flora, Fauna, and Merriweather?
Ooh I hope he does I love when my kinds lore gets explored in pop culture
I'm your 100th like!!!
Sleeping beauty...
I think Mama Odie's past could be even darker than we realize, because of the bottles hanging in her tree. I first saw that concept in 'Because of Winn-Dixie' with Gloria Dump (ironically, also blind) and her "mistake tree", where each bottle represents something she'd done wrong in her life.
I'd love to learn more about this, like if "mistake trees" are (or were) a legit thing down south and if so, what some of Mama Odie's mistakes might've been (this could really tie in with a theory I've seen that Dr Facilier was actually Mama Odie's son).
Actually, bottles are typically hung from trees as a form of protection! Colored glass bottles are used to form a barrier, keeping evil spirits out, while allowing the good to pass. ^^ This is a common practice in the Voodoo religion from what my mom has taught me.
For a second I thought it was a representation of all the victims lost to lynching but @ Shadow On The Full Moon' explanation makes more sense, thanks for educating!💗
Like other commenters said, hanging glass bottles are more of a traditional voodoo custom to ward off spirits. in the second pirates of the Caribbean movie when they go visit Tia dalma, she has bottles hanging from her ceiling insider home as well
"...but I've always wanted to understand her more, so to do that today I'm gonna dive in..." that was the PERFECT chance to say "dig a little deeper!" how did you miss it?! 😂
PLEASE DO A VIDEO THEORIZING THAT DR. FACILIER IS MAMA ODIE’S SON!!!
In your last video, you highlighted that the Shadow Man was royalty on his mama’s side...a voodoo queen.
You mentioned how Mama Odie focuses on needs and not harming others. Facilier, in contrast, focuses on wants and harms. But both are powerful.
Also, Mama Odie refers to him as the Shadow Man...but she is familiar with how to dispel the friends on the other side, is familiar with their curse, and how to lift it. Yes, that could be as a result of her knowledge...but what if it is because it is the knowledge she passed to her son: Facilier. And as a result of him using magic for evil, she only knows him as the Shadow Man.
If not her son, then at the very least, they could be related in some way. Perhaps grandmother and grandson? Great aunt and nephew?
He also said in the Facilier video that the idea of Mama Odie being his mother was scrapped.
That’d be so cool!!!
Your theories are always the best 👍
Did Pairy the Platipus .hang up the Hat when Doofismerf turn good.
The two story lines of the day were getting to close. What if Venesa casually spilled the beans to Ferb
Props to this dude for doing his research on New Orleanian culture and practices. A lot of people who speak about voodoo and hudoo as some sort of evil when it’s just an extreme prayer. Very appreciative you took out time to learn my culture.
The Princess and the Frog is my favorite movie and I am glad you made more videos about it. Thank you so much!❤
I know this is another dark thing, but can you try and do a video about all the deaths in Coco, as most of the family die before old age. sorry I just watched Coco and am curious about that. :)
I really appreciate how respectfully you explain Louisianna voodoo! and hoodoo thankyou
Your video theories and/or full stories never cease to amaze me 💗💗💗
And as a black woman myself thank you for respecting us
Theory: was her snake a human before?
That is why you don't tick off any type of magic user
I noticed how Mama Odie and Doctor Facilier are different from eachother:
1. Doctor Facilier is tall and thin, while Mama Odie is short and stout
2. Doctor Facilier has "friends on the other side", Mama Odie has animals
3. Doctor Facilier uses his magic to pose as business but ruins peoples' lives, but Mama Odie uses her magic to provide help to people but is secluded in the bayou
Mama Odie wears white and gold while Dr. Facilier wears black and purple.
Dr. Facilier gives you exactly what you want while mama Odie guides you to what you need.
Ect
Another great video I learned more about Hoodoo snd Voodoo from you then books.
I'm curious what made Dr. Facilier sell his soul in the first place
Poverty
@@mryou-xh9je the desire to have a short cut out of poverty and have power over others and a fear of loss. Those dark desires can give us all kinds of darkness: think 1936 - 1944 Germany for example where lots of good people stayed silent and some became like the shadowman.
I have nothing but respect for you! You always do your research so well!
Giving a huge shout out to Jennifer Lewis who plays the voice Mama Odie from Princess and the Frog. Some people who grew up in the 90's might remember a show called the Fresh Prince of Bel Air which she plays the sassy sister to Aunt Viv on the sitcom. She's super talented and charismatic! She's one of my all time favorites and is legendary.🔥🙌🏽😊
Mama Odie is Phenomenal! ❤️❤️ She is one of my favorite characters! I LOVED learning all about her! Thank you so much!
I love how u do your research before you tell your story. Its very fascinating
Mama Odie has always been my idol ever since i saw her.
Honestly I’ve kinda forgotten about her, and seeing her again made me realise how much of a influence she had on me!
Today I’m a Wiccan, a form of Paganism, and I do dip my toes in voodoo quite often. And this made me realise she was a very influential character for where I am now!
I mostly do this practice because I have rough times around other people and I use it to give myself courage and give others the same. (I have dabbled in hex work but Karma didn’t really like that)
Oh, its really sad that, you make yourself and block with relgious beliefs
I love princess and the frog because it takes place down here my home state
same!! GEAUX TIGERS/WHO DAT (whichever team you prefer. Personally I'm an LSU fan but my math teacher...well...more than half of the stuff in his classroom is just Saints merch. During football season, every time they won a game, he'd take that newspaper article and tape it to the whiteboard lol. I went to Disney World a little over a year ago. The only characters I met were Olaf and Rafiki, but now I'm seriously regretting not asking Tiana if she's a Saints fan..tbh I'm not a sports person either way but she's from New Orleans so I thought it would be freaking hilarious)
All in favor of naming Mama Odie a Disney queen, say aye!
She never had a desire for power. Which is exactly what made her so powerful. pure of heart intention. She helped people to help themselves.
Love this idea, but just one question: how exactly did she find the swamp? It's not like she could sneak out, run for miles, dive off the interstate, and swim from Lake Ponchartrain or the Mississippi River all the way to a bayou. I'm not offended by that, I'm just curious to know what you think about how she could've gotten there. I'd love it even more if you did that as a part 2 to this video!
....well... Shes a 200 year old blind lady living in a boat in a tree... Im thinking.. She escaped on the boat and went a little too wild and it got stuck in the bayou over the years the tree probably grew around it or she just somehow got it stuck up there... Tbh we need a Princess and the frog prequel following the story of mama odie and potentially her training a young man in the ways of voodoo but has to cast him away when he starts abusing it for monetary gain...
my question is how did she send tiana to help sofia the first
What
I love how you explain topics you're giving fun theories while explaining amazing information it's a great combination! ❤️
I think that Mama Odie was supposed to be an alternate version of Marie Lavou the Vodoo Queen of New Orleans. And, a specific deity in I believe it was Hatian Vodoo was the inspiration for Dr.Facilier. He's noted as a smooth talker, skull faced, and wears a silk top hat.
I absolutely love the level of work you put into each video! All that research must be so intense at times, keep up the good work - I always love your content.
Interesting take, I love Mama Odie and it was cool to hear your ideas mixed with actual history. I would love to see a video on Flora, Fauna, and Merriweather! Cheers
I think this is one of my favorite videos you have done recently, Issac! Loved Mama Odie the first time watching the movie and love her even more now
Thank you for the historical context and respect Voodoo and Hoodoo deserve. As someone who practices Hoodoo myself and wants to be initiated into Voodoo it's truly refreshing.
Oh wow. This is amazing, you included history into this and that makes it all so much more interesting. Thank you~
What a surprise! I remember asking about mama odie long ago, its nice to see my wish finally came true! Thank you for making it happen and doing very good research. Keep up the good work
Your videos are so good and it’s nice to get the full picture of these characters on your channels
Your videos are always great it's been a journey following you seeing you grow up with us and the theories are always my fave videos
I'm impressed with your through research into history to come to this sound theroy that fits everything and again it's nice to get the advice you really need. Better to be happy then get stuff that means nothing. She's tells you what your heart and soul need. Not what's gonna be replaced and has no real vaule. So I'm impressed with you and your videos and I've only just begun to watch. you are amazing!
MAN, MAMA ODIE IS AWESOME, AND I'M OVER JOY THAT SHE HAS A VIDEO BY YOU ISSAC, WELL DONE IN THIS ONE!!!!!
*Also to answer your question; I would seems so on her history, and it's an AMAZING tail to tell.*
Come on with the in depth and detailed research! Awesome job!!!
Omg this is something I've wanted to know when I first saw this movie thanks for this update!😂👍🏾❤️💙💚💜💛♥️🖤❤️💘💕💖💗♥️👑👑👑👑✌️🏾✌️🏾
I adore these videos and the history you include in them, please keep it up. 💙🙏👍
My biggest question when I see mama oodie is why the bottles? From Wind Dixie, bottles in trees often represent some sin in a person's life. So what darkness is our light barer hiding through these bottles that she'll have to life with?
I really really want to know Tiana's mothers. I really really want to know how did she became Tiana's mother what is it for her personality who is who is the youngest mother who is she?
This is an amazing character study and analysis, 5 stars ⭐️ ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
I can’t stop watching Wotso videos
So interesting I love 💗 your theory’s are always so amazing
I just realized that the blind and toothless voodoo queen has two jars with teeth and eyes that could be hers 😱😱😱
This was really interesting thank you 😊
I’m glad I found this today i needed this
its wild how the historical timeline of voodoo lines up with mama odie’s age
Make a video about Maldonia!!!
I thought you were going to mentions all the whiskey, liquor and wines she has hanging everywhere bottles as part of her dark past.
Alcohol played a part in slavery, and Mama Odie may be a recovering alcoholic, or at least someone she loved was. She turned a symbol, the bottles,of her and her family's oppression into sources of light and decoration. (She has candles hanging in said bottles and they are also hanging in the tree, catching and reflecting light.)
Just my musings. This video essay is still awesome
I would love to see you do a video on Prince Naveen. His heritage is kept a bit of a mystery but I think I know his kingdom and lineage. I think he is from Scotland and descended from king Kenneth the third (he was the first black king of Scotland)
Here’s my evidence. He has a Scottish accent (given to him by his voice actor from Scotland) he looks like he could very well be part African but he couldn’t be from Africa. There was also a huge influx of Irish and Scottish immigrants during the 1920s to 1930s due to famine (And they couldn’t make him 100% African Because of the Eddy Murphy film coming to America. Potential copyright violation) Naveen would be just close enough to the throne that he’s a prince of notice but far enough away he could marry who he liked. (If you go by the lineage that married a person of African descent close enough to that time to look partially black) Kennith the third was the sire of the clan MacDuff of Shakespeare notoriety in the story Macbeth.
please please use it 😊
lowkey, mama odie reminds me of suga mama from the proud family
She’s like your crazy and insane grandma who could tell you stories and riddles that make no sense but are just fun to listen too
Love that you dont spread misinformation about vodou and hoodoo great video
YES MORE PRINCESS AND THE FROG 🐸👸🏾
This was great Issac can you do one on why Winston Deavor loves Supers
Do Randall Bogg's Full Backstory.
yesssssssssssssss I love mama odie she was a big part of my childhood also with the rest of the princesses and the frog I love that you focused more on her!
SUCH a good video 💖
Great job on finding her background as well as going in depth on her religion! I think this movie shows there is always a good and bad to everything he used the loa to ruin other peoples lives and gain power while she used them to help others when they need it. I usually don't comment but as one of the adults who watched this at the movies alone I couldn't resist.
Hey wotso...ur love of history is showing 👀👀😁😁
Please do the following for future videos:
The Damsel In Distress - The History & Origin of the Fairy Tale Trope
The Evil Stepmother - The History & Origin of the Fairy Tale Trope
The Evil Witch - The History & Origin of the Fairy Tale Trope
The Fairy Godmother - The History & Origin of the Fairy Tale Trope
Happily Ever After - The History & Origin of the Fairy Tale Trope
Prince Charming - The History & Origin of the Fairy Tale Trope
The Corpse Bride's Full Story - Who Was She Before She Died?
Analyzing I Won't Say I'm In Love From Hercules - Disney Music Breakdown
Analyzing Once Upon A Dream From Sleeping Beauty - Disney Music Breakdown
Analyzing Someday My Prince Will Come From Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs - Disney Music Breakdown
Who Is Prince Eric's Ex-Bride, The Princess of Glowerhaven?
The Entire Love Story of Kim Possible and Ron Stoppable
Sofia The First - Her Rise From Princess to Protector
Kida's Full Story - Rise of The Queen of Atlantis
The Love Story of Phineas & Isabella
Who Are Snow White's Mother and Father?
Why DIDN'T Esmeralda Choose Quasimodo?
Flora, Fauna and Merryweather's Full Story
Fairy Godmother's Full Story (Cinderella)
Fairy Godmother's Full Story (Shrek)
The Other Mother's Full Story
Yzma's Full Story
Hans' Full Story
An amazingly and awesomely wonderful video, I truly admire the historical research and the others fun sources you use, in your video theories.:)
Mama Odie is one of my favorite characters, Thank you very much.:D
Mama Odie resembles a lot in that of Gloria Dump from the movie, "Because of Win Dixie": both are old, both are blind, and both hang bottles from a tree. I think they're the same person, prove me wrong.
I love speculating on Mama Odee, this video was really fun. Hush up and look in the gumbo!
She probably became immortal in her 70’s and just stayed that way for 197 years
I would love for you to do a video on another Princess and The Frog Theory. Some people are saying Faciler is Mama Odie’s son. It would be really fun it you dove deeper into it. 👸🏾💜🐸✨
Great theory 👍 I wouldn't have thought to dig so deep
I think yes, that Mama O was a slave and turned to a magical queen.
I thought came to mind when you talked about Dr.F, could Mama O and Dr. F be related in some sort of way or new each other in their past lives?
When you first mentioned Mamma Odey (forgive spelling I’m on mobile and can’t double check without completely deleting what I wrote so far) being a slave I thought that she was a maroon. A slave that escaped and avoided being recaptured by living in the bios and swamps near New Orleans. I thought maybe she learned and practiced her magic by living in one of the Maroon communities and learned from them. I don’t know a whole lot about them, but I do remember that there were some records of Maroons being able to communicate with animals and even tell Alligators who was friend and who was foe. That last one might of been a stretch though as I read it in a book that was historical fiction and the author might of just added the alligator part to make it more interesting. You’re theory was really good and managed to get me thinking about Mamma Odey in a new way. It’s really cool to picture her as a Voodoo Queen.
Man what a story for Mama Odie
Love your videos
Nice captain America shirt!!!! Have you seen Endgame yet? I liked it but I liked infinity war more.
maybe this is cheesy to say, but hearing how you explained her story really gave me some
hope for my current life challenges. thank you!
Love you guys
Please do a video on Evangeline, the poem/story that was the namesake and inspiration of the “Neverland Star”. ( ooh video on that theory too!) and Ray’s love.
So.....are Dr Facilier and Mama Odie related?
I am guessing she comes from some random swamp in the bayou lol, or she could be a "good" voodoo god but that's for another day;/.
Hi Isaac, love your videos. I was wondering if you could do a video about the Epic Mickey game? What it's about, if you can explain what's going on in it, your opinions or whatever else, really. It's just a super dark, mystical game full of old history and obscure characters and I'm crazy intrigued by it. I'd love to hear your opinion.
9:05
*“Hush up and look at the gumbo!”*
Another gr8 vid
@Wotso Videos could you do a video about Hunchback of Notre Dame?
All that’s great but Mamma Odie lived through the civil war and I think that’s the greatest feat of all