Why Did Tiana Become A Frog? | Disney Theory: Discovering Disney
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Isaac prefers to spread the magic of Disney over kissing frogs so today he theorizes on why Tiana became a frog.
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In Princess and the Frog, after wishing upon a star, Tiana’s dreams finally begin to come true when she is visited by a frog who turns out to be a prince. Desperate to become a human again, Prince Naveen begs to have Tiana kiss him but she is not so sure. Of course Tiana is not about kissing a frog. I mean they are covered in mucus just for starters. But after the devastating loss of her dream restaurant and the promise by the rich Prince Naveen to grant her whatever she wants she’s willing to make an exception. So Tiana goes for it! She goes in to smooch that amphibian right on the mouth and suddenly becomes a frog herself… Now this wasn’t a super big deal to me… until I realized that Naveen kisses Tiana’s best friend Lottie at the end of the film and nothing happens to her! Why does Tiana become tied to the curse while Charlotte doesn’t?
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Fun fact: Female frogs are bigger. I would nitpick about this, but they did use to be humans after all.
omg i'm glad someone else noticed qwq
Why is it always midnight for a spell to be broken
Well in this case it was because Charlotte was only a princess on Mardi Gras so after the day was over that privilege was revoked. Thanks for watching!
It's so common even Shrek questioned it
It could be because it's the start of a new day-which could weaken spells like Cinderella's to the point that it can't be maintained unless there's additional magic put into it
Midnight was when the spell broke in Cinderella and when Giselle was supposed to die in Enchanted too
Well midnight is known as the bewitching hour, could be that during this time spells/curses get weakened/strengthened depending on their purpose
Tiana is the most awesome princess ever she owns her own business she's amazing they should make a movie about Tiana's life about her married life
That's what I think too. I think she really ends up at the end of her movie at the best place out of all of the Disney Princesses, but that's just me! Thanks for watching!
tbh that would be lame. its fine as a stand alone
You only say this because she's black.
Princess and the Frog should've gotten an animated series.
@@amberwingtundrawing776 oh please no, i'm still getting over the Tangled series
The whole pitch to Naveen was “it’s the green you need” and he agreed to gain that green. Obviously it was a different green than he expected. When Tiana kissed him, she was also making a deal to get “the green” so she essentially made the same deal as Naveen did with the shadow man, spreading the play on word curse to her. When they kiss next, the spirits aren’t there anymore and they aren’t looking for money, so the green they got was reversed. Or at least that’s my theory.
I don't know if anyone else has said this before or not, but this was my thoughts. Tiana wished upon a star to have her dreams come true, and JUST THEN a frog jumps out and wants her to kiss him. She kisses him and turns into a frog, leading her to go on a journey with him and eventually falling in love and getting married, making her a princess. We see that at the end of the movie she was able to achieve her dreams with him. If she had not kissed him/ kissed him and he turned human off the bat, then I doubt she would have gone through the process of falling in love with him (as she found him very annoying and obnoxious at first), leading her to not become a princess and being unable to achieve her dream/ it takes YEARS to get anywhere close (come on, we all saw the tins of pennies and dimes she had collected throughout YEARS of working). The star she wished upon provided her with a chance to be happy, not only having the restaurant, but also finding the love of her life.
That's a good point. Maybe whatever magic wishing stars have prevented Charlette from changing into a frog so Tiana would have her dream with Naveen.
makenna shuter However, her dream was never to fall in love, get married, and become a princess. Her dream was to own a huge restaurant and Naveen was a BROKE prince. She had to make her own dreams come true, she just got wrapped up in a different plot phenomenon.
I feel like if the kiss didn’t work: Naveen would have lied “I can get you a loan”, Tiana would have dropped everything to help, hijinks ensue with a lady and a frog, it’s revealed he lied, he’s compared to the villain, sad moment, apologizes, fight villain, break curse on him, and Naveen who loves Tiana makes-up with his family to get a loan for her business.
This is a decent plot that is closer to the original tale and would have allowed us to see the “black princess” fully.
Without her turning into a frog, they probably wouldn’t have met Louis the alligator. I’ll just leave this information here.
I think she turned into a frog after the kiss because she did it upon selfish reasons
Isnt the star she wished upon was the blue fairy in pinocchio?
That scene when the voodoo spirits took Dr. Facilier away was scary. At least Tiana and Naveen changed back in the end
I think that leads back to Mama Odie that since she was a Voodoo priestess only she used it for good instead of Evil like Facilier. It's all intertwined because Voodo can be used for either good or evil, Facilier used it for evil and Mama Odie used it for good, and I think she added that to the spell to balance it out.
Yes it was scary
I thought those were different movies...
@@strawberryseal1851 lol
It haunt my nightmares when i was kid ;_;
In some places frogs symbolize greed, they were equal in greed in different ways when they kissed I believe the curse just couldn't tell the difference in that moment
It doesn't seem like that, and in all honesty it does make something and is pointed to many times in the movie(Tiana being greedy/having her main focus being material gain although it's in the form of the restaurant)
Truth-Rationale Scientist Ummmm, no.
@Truth-Rationale Scientist lmao no the white girl was a greedy brat she was just emotional and did her friend a favor.
Tiana and Navine were foils for one another. The wealth and riches lay-about foreign prince and the poor working to the bone Louisiana black girl both sought money. The green that they needed. The green that was seen.
That is a good point. They both tried to get some sort of magical shortcut because Navean went to Facilier to get what he wanted and Tiana wished on a star
Love that
In the original fairytale by the Grimms, the frogs curse isn't broken by a kiss. The princess refuses to kiss the prince and throws him to the wall instead and that breaks the curse.
This was changed in some of the child friendly books where the princess then kissed the frog, but those are only "after Grimm" and not "by Grimm"
Thank you. I was looking for a comment like this!
I remember that one. There's another version where she breaks his leg off when she throws him
that is not quite correct
these storys are always "after Grimm" instead of "by Grimm" because the Grimms didn't create them, they just collected them. Writers not authors.
And they didn't just write down one version, they've written down every locally altered telling of a story they could find and bound them in different versions of their fairy tale collections.
There are versions where she throws the frog against a wall and he turns back and there are versions where she kisses him. Both as written down by Grimm. ...and there are altered versions in more modern fairy tale books, but not every variant has to be from one of those
There is also a version where he changes back after keeping her promise to take care of him.
A Jon Solo fan I see!
Can you do a video on why magic always wears out on midnight please?
Well, in charlotte's case it was because midnight signified the end of the day (end of mardi gras) and thus the end of her "princesshood". Beyond that and Cinderella, I can't think of a story where the magic has anything to do with midnight. Merida had until sunrise on the third day to break her mom's curse, Ariel had until sunset on the third day. Snow white and sleeping beauty just had to wait to be kissed... Just whenever. The beast had until the last petal fell from his rose, rapunzel had to have her hair cut, there are a number of deadlines and such that stop the effects of magic; good or bad.
Corny Owl cause disney says that bedtime
My guess is that it's because it's a new day. In every case of "time sensitive" magic, a new day is always what cuts off a spell, even if it's the end of day three, like in Ariel's case. A common saying is "every day is a new start", after all.
Yes, in other words midnight is special - the "bewitching" hour, so to speak. For Tiana it's the end of Mardi Gras but in general it has always been a magical time. @@MissingmyBabbu
Because no one buys the extended warranty
It’s not slime, it’s mucus!
*Naveen Used Google Search*
*It wasn't that effective...*
OK Mr zebra
Didn’t he say that?
Stopped at 1:15. Here’s my theory before I watch it. It’s because like Naveen with the Shadow Man, who made a deal to be wealthy or rich, Naveen made the same contract with Tiana. The same deal. The spell has the effect on those who desires wealth. Obviously Lottie wouldn’t want that desire because she’s already rich. So of course when she kissed Naveen she doesn’t change.
Good theory
Or maybe because Lottie didn't accept the deal. When she sees that Tiana and Raveen are in love, she decides to kiss him for "free", making the deal useless.
I like this better than my theory
@@estrellaescobar5723 Yeah, I was thinking it's because of greed. Lottie did it for no reason other than to help her best friend, while Tiana only did it so she could get her own restaurant. Lottie was selfless, Tiana was selfish.
I like this theory better.
Well it's not a kiss of true love if you're doing just to break the spell. Has to be genuine.
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Tiana wasn’t in love yet, she just kissed him to get the funding for her restaurant. That’s probably not what you were saying, but I didn’t really understand
@@Cat-sl6bo I think you got the right idea, I suppose in a way she kissed Naveen just to break the spell so could get funding for her restaurant like you said. Sounds about right.
You're right!
@VerdanaDaSkele Isn't it supposed to be before midnight? and that was when Charlotte missed it?
Though I like the video's explanation, my own opinion is that black magic only works on those with dark intentions. One being, greed. It's call BLACK MAGIC for a reason. It's seen as evil and corrupt just as the characters who experienced the pain of the black magic.
- The prince was effected by black magic not only because of his contract by shaking the shadow man's hand, but his intentions were that of greed (money/the green).
-The servant(sorry I forgot his name) was effected by the black magic due to the ill intentions of revenge. Revenge on the royal family for being a servant and a want to make them his servants while he gets to be rich and powerful.
- Tiana is effected by the black magic because she has the intent of using the Prince's money for her own personal gain (her restaurant).
- The Shadow Man is able to use the black magic with his dark intentions of being rich, thirst for money and power.
- Charlotte has the good intentions of helping her best friend with her dream to own a restaurant, also she is putting down her own wants and wishes of being a real life princess for her friend (she even says, "for you Tia.") She wasn't effected because of her good intentions.
This is also proven when Ray and Mama Odi fight the shadows.
- Sure Ray has literal light, but fighting for the intent of protecting his new friends allows his to fight and not be effected by the dark magic.
- In the movie we see Mama Odi as a sweet old lady who loves everyone and everything. She has nothing but good intentions with only the will to protect all of the beings that she cares for.
I think you are 100% right because when you think about demons it's basic black magic because white magic is for good things like love and other things dark magic yeah makes sense and I think that is 100% the right answer to that
HowA'boutThis ? this is literally the most accurate theory..and the directors might confirm this.
If I remember correctly, I THINK the servant's name is Lawrence. I'm not 100% sure if my memory is correct, since I haven't seen the movie in quite a while, but I just searched my memory to see if I remembered it at all, and my biggest hunch is that his name was Lawrence.
@@bonedaddyshonestreviews6933 you right. That is his name
@@njmoonfrost6145 Thanks for the confirmation!
The Question: Why did Tiana become a frog?
My Answer: Disney logic.
One theory I have as to why Charlotte did not turn into a frog is because the wicked shadow man was gone already and hence lessening the power potency of the Kiss.
In the original story of the Frog Prince, The Princess throws the frog against a wall and THAT was what turned the frog back into a human prince. There was also a character called Iron Heinrich and his name was the alternate name 4 the fairytale.
Oh yes I read that. It was so weird!!!
What about Elsa? Anna needed an act of true love to break the ice spell Elsa cast on her but Elsa had to do it herself as well. Tianna was determined to open her restaurant by herself so she was independent.
wtf 😂
@@mistiandamelia yea Like in maleficent she cast the spell on Aurora and she broke it by kissing her in the forehead and crying
Theory 1. I personally believe it’s because in the first kiss they both had “hope”, Navieen was going to be human, Tiana was going to get her restaurant. But in the second kiss, the clock had already struck, so Navieen knew there was no hope of being human. If you recall, the kiss with Charlotte showed that Navieen obviously knew that it wouldn’t work, leaving him looking disappointed.
Theory 2. Maybe the “if you get kissed, they turn into a frog” rule only applies to the day that the curse could be broken, as kind of a “backup”. Since Navieen kissed Tiana in the time that the curse could still be broken, she turned into a frog. But when Charlotte kissed Navieen, the time to break the curse was over. The Witch Doctor doesn’t play fair, thats why this one makes sense.
Oh, one of the Halloween stories of Disney I would like to hear from you is "The Legend Of Sleepy Hollow" (which is from 1949). Who's the headless horseman? And is Ichabod Crane still alive or dead? Did he got send to the underworld by the headless horseman since the villagers didn't find his "body"? Also, why does the headless horseman uses a pumpkin as a weapon and head? (and I don't think it's only just a Halloween decoration)
Oh yeah discussing Ichabod could be really fun!!!
theres also the remake from a few years ago that kinda answers this question
Wotso Videos please do it
I totally agree that I would love to see a sleepy hollow (1949) video 😄
As I recall Crane relocated and married another woman. He just apparently didn't leave a forwarding address.
Actually, the Princess Kissing the Frog is just ONE version of the story. In another (the one I grew up with) the Princess gets so disgusted at the Frog when he asks to sleep in the same bed as her that she flings him across the room and he ends up hitting the wall...which for some reason breaks the spell. Because, you know, nothing like being violently flung into a wall to break a curse.
I have a feeling that since the frog curse has been cast on Naveen, it may needed some time for the spell to "set in" to only affect Naveen. True kissing a princess will break the spell, but since Tiana was only dressed as a princess, she became a frog herself. I mean, think of it like this: a bench in the park has just recently been painted, but someone forgot to either "rope it off" or put up a 'wet paint' sign. And someone comes along and sat/laid down on it, causing some of the paint to get on them. Or even a scenario where someone stepped into wet cement.
Naveen loved Tiana when Charlotte kissed him there was no true loves kiss so maybe the kiss would have been still been valid but because it was a meaningless kiss with someone he didn’t love the curse was unable to affect either of them possibly cause she was still considered a princess
Sydney Schuster Mama Odie didn't mention about a true loves kiss she said all Naveen needed was to be kissed by a Princess.
Hannah Skeldon ur right but with magic, love always plays a factor and a meaningless kiss is powerless compared to true loves kiss and when someone loves someone not kiss will work to break a powerful curse especially one from the shadow man
@@hannahskeldon7944 then why prince Naveen didn't change become human after he is kissed by Charlotte a princess ? And Mama Odie told it before"that" midnight
Since next year is the film's 10th anniversary, I think the best time for Disney to start making a sequel would be now. There's one character in the movie that I really like, and he's neither human nor frog. He's in my avatar.
OOHH, haha.
Brian Draney A Dr. Facilier and Mama Odie prequel lol.
Could you do a video about Regina from once upon a time please
I would love to do that. Regina and Rumple were my favorite characters from the show and now that the show is over I would love to go through them. Thanks for watching!
Wotso Videos I would love to watch it
Wotso Videos I am a true evil regal
This is a great idea. I love OUAT
Yes I wanted this for so long
I think Tiana's frog-ness might be connected to the end of Friends on the Other Side, where we hear the spirits say "You got what you wanted, but you lost what you had!"
My first point is kind of flimsy but Tiana IS better off than Naveen financially when he's transformed and if they married he could benefit from her restaurant's success.
Secondly, Naveen thinks he needs money to be happy but people like Mama Odi know what he truly needs, and giving him something in common with Tiana, ie her own perception-shifting transformation will lead him to the happiness he wishes for along with hers. Two birds with one st... spell!
Another reasons ties to one of the points you made. How- Tiana and Naveen had more selfish motives, while Charlotte had a more selfless reason. You tied it to how Tiana and Naveen had similar motives, but I think it might Be more simple. It could just be thats- they were being selfish, so the curse overtook them.
And can you please do a another nightmare before Christmas video please
Yes this please. It's my favorite movie
Elizabeth Mano also it’s spoopy month
I always thought she turned into a frog because she did it out of the want/need for her own gain not because she loved or wish to help the 'prince'.
Her friend didn't turn because while she wanted to help/care, at that point love became a solid need to reverse the curse since he did start falling in love with tiana.
And I think you should do a video about Hocus Pocus! It's one of my favorite Halloween movies. I'd suggest for you to talk about the Black Candle, or maybe the story of Thackery Binx. Either way, I'd love for you to tackle another vid about this movie! :D
Definitely! Hocus Pocus is the best Disney Halloween movie!
Exactly how did the sisters obtain the book from the devil ?
Hocus Pocus
I have a theory. I think Dr Facilier is Mama Odie’s son because.........
1. They both use hoodoo and voodoo
2. Dr Facilier states that he was a royal on his mother’s side and mama Odie is the queen of the bayou.
I mean just a thought.
Thought it was an old video. Damn never been earlier on a video
Nope... JUST BRAND NEW! Thanks for watching!
@@IsaacCarlson No problem. Love the detail you go into.
"True love breaks any curse" Yes. But Tiana didn't love Naveen (yet) so the kiss cursed her instead. That's my opinion on what happened.
And I think with that 'princess' it also involved true love cause Naveen loved Tiana by that point. IDK.
I always assumed that she was turned into a frog because she wasn’t a princess at the time
I figured that too, but they make a good point that if that were only the case, Charlotte would also be turned into a frog.
Same
@@Silentgrace11 Charlotte is really rich, close to a princess
YAY thank you for including my comment again!!! :D
Love your videos, keep up the good work!!! :D
My pleasure! I love to feature people who are commenting on my polls because the feedback is really helpful! I'm glad you enjoy them! Thanks for watching!
@@IsaacCarlson No problem!!! :D
Thanks for replying again! :D
The Princess and the Frog has always been my favourite Disney movie ever since I first saw it, and I feel like not enough videos are made on it! Thanks for making this video Isaac :)
Here’s the other thing I realized. Naveen and Tiana were cursed by voodoo, considered evil by the Catholic Church. Charlotte was the princess of Mardi Gras, the day before Ash Wednesday. Not trying to sound super Christian, but Charlottes reason to kiss Naveen was selfless. Doing a good deed on such a Holy day might have also protected her from turning into a frog.
I love Tiana because she's a very first independent princess because she doesn't need to be rescued from a prince or be kissed
wrong. Mulan was first.
@@ChUwU Mulan didn't become a princess. Tianna did upon marrying a prince. Mulan is only a official Disney Princess because of how well the movie did but she herself isn't a Princess
cassyluv Sanchez actually that would have been Pocahontas or mulan but technically mulan isn’t a princess she’s just a heroine
cassyluv Sanchez Also Meg from Hercules
@@queeneon To become a princess you have to be born into royalty, marry a prince OR do a noble act. That's what Mulan did. Save China, she deserves to be called a princess.
E.D. Baker's series was one of my favourites as a kid!! Love that you referenced that.
Why Naveen parents cut him off?
That is a very interesting question. I think the main reason was because Naveen was just leaching off of them and wasn't creating any legacy for himself. Thanks for watching!
@@IsaacCarlson are his parents to blame they let the servants in the castle do everything for him even brush his teeth
even read him stories at night ( maybe this is why he rarely met or spent time with his parents) he never even went to school so he couldn't have learned responsibly or be taught anything
@@IsaacCarlson what's the difference between ghosts and spirit?
They were probably tired of buying him stuff
"But they cut me off for being a...LEECH! LEECH!!!"
I know it's not the type of video you'd usually do, Isaac, but would you consider doing a video on what you'd consider the most haunting/scariest Disney villain deaths? If that doesn't work, how does taking a look at Pleasure Island from Pinnochio sound (given that it's where one of arguably THE darkest moments in Disney history occurs)?
Anyway, good work again, Isaac!
I've wondered about this for a long time, so thank you for making this! :D Princess and the Frog is definitely one of my favorite Disney films
For Halloween, do some Haunted Mansion videos
Oh good idea Connor! Haunted Mansion is awesome! Thanks for watching!
Do a video on Maleficent or Grimhilda, the Evil Queen from Snow White.
He did already.
@@jamessirot854 where?
@@jamessirot854 i am in DESPERATE need of that video!
On his channel.
Maleficent: czcams.com/video/elR3BBppPJQ/video.html
Evil Queen: czcams.com/video/d7gRApsMws0/video.html
I wondered something about Mama Odie, she says that many animals go to her for many different wants but she gives them what they need. We saw her magic can summon money which Facilier cannot do and I wondered why? She seemed to know about Facilier and about his friends and she says that she had heard about Tiana and her father before. I wondered if those colorful bottles at the end of her song were like wishes from those asking for her help?
Ugh why are you the absolute best at this? 😂 I Sweaa it's your personality & devotion to your work lol
This is my favorite movie and have watched it dozens of times and have never realized how that never made sense until you pointed that out... Thankfully, you gave some pretty legitamate reasons for it to make sense once again XD
Rolling off of what you said, also since Charlotte was a LeBouf and a key element in his plot, maybe she was protected by the 'friends' so that way Faciliers plans wouldn't go wrong by her turning into a frog.
Great video and it's awesome to see someone talking about this amazing movie!
Maybe the curse is racist
lol
@@ChUwU oh good someone found it funny. I thought I would've struck a nerve but I risked it 😂
Thats really funny! Lol
Or Disney 😂😂😂😂 but yep 👍
LOL
Love's true kiss can beat all evil in fairytales. Just like Darling's kiss (note: *KISS* ) of life broke the Evil Queen's poison apple spell on Apple White in Ever After High. No matter how much Mattel wants to deny it
I think they canceled the show because of entitled parents.
Something I'd just like to point out, Issac- is that in the original Frog Prince, there was actually no kissing at all. In the Grimm brothers version, the prince was brought back into his human form after the princess threw him against a wall in absolute disgust. So I do agree with you for the most part about the original fairytale elements, other than that little thing! ;)
I think it may have something to do with the Shadowman being alive at the time!
Fiiiiiiinnnnnnaaaallllllyyyyy! A new video! You are really good at this!☺
I find the meta text for this movie so hilarious with its source material ACTUALLY in the movie to foreshadow plot elemants and being a driving cause for most of the action
This could be the reason. But I also think motive might have a lot to do with it as well, because of the original version of the frog prince. The original version didn’t even have a kiss, but was instead about motives and bargains. Originally, the princess lost her golden ball and the frog retrieved it on the condition that he could come to her home, eat from her plate, and sleep on her bed. She agreed, but ran off once she had her ball, selfishly intending to not fulfill her end of the agreement. The frog finally reached the palace and the princess slammed the door in his face. Her father, after hearing the situation told her that she had to keep her promise and allowed the frog in. When the frog tried to eat from her plate, she put it out of his reach and her father again made her keep her promise. However, when they were alone in her room and he tried to sleep on her bed, she picked him up and chucked him against the wall. It was then that the frog turned into a prince. So with all the emphasis on promises and motives in the original, and the fact that it was also selfish bargaining that made the curse in the movie to begin with, it could have definitely been one of these factors that Disney was using when cursing Tiana.
Analizing "be prepared" or "hellfire"
I must I DID NOT EXPECTED her to turn into a frog.
Although I don't think Tiana was being selfish (she wanted to be able to purchase the restaurant to fulfill her and her father's SHARED dream) I do love your final conclusion. Well done. ❤
Kitt Mouri Well, she was being selfish. Not in an evil way, in a very understandable way, but she wasn’t thinking about helping Naveen. Even if her dream is noble and her selfishness is very sympathetic (the restaurant meaning a lot to her), it meant nothing re: Naveen, so it was a similar deal as that which Naveen struck with Facilier.
Charlotte, on the other hand, was just trying to help and even attempted the kiss after midnight just to see if it would work. She didn’t even hesitate, despite how gross kissing a frog is lmao.
If you didn't put that last bit in, I was about to mention it. I was ready for you to miss it lol. Great job on this one!!
Hi! I really liked your theories, some of them were new to me and interesting but I'd like to share with you something that I thought about:
So, in the book Tiana and the stolen jewel they introduce a whole new character, Lucinda LaBouff. This Lucinda is the second cousin of Charlotte who she didn't know (neither his father knew about this woman). Lucinda is a witch as old as Mama Odie, in fact they've been rivals since they were very young.
This makes me think about the war between voodoo against the common witchcraft of the occidental culture and that maybe, since Lucinda LaBouff is such a powerful witch, it means the women of the LaBouff family magic have some sort of magic, that Lottie would have some sort of magic she doesn't know about. That this magic of these well-known witches would have protected her from Dr. Facilier voodoo and hoodoo.
Of course this book was published years after the movie and probably the writers didn't think of Charlotte as some kind of witch, but I mean... That's what a headcanon is about, right?
P.D.: Love your videos
My personal theory is that because the Shadow Man needed Charlotte to marry his minion he made her immune to the spell altogether
The reason tian became a frog was because
It’s a Disney movie and we need a moral and a happy ending
One of my favourite things about Isaac is that he precedes his theories with something along the lines of: "magic is weird, so any of the other possibilities are still valid, so even though the following is what I believe, it doesn't mean that you would be wrong to disagree"
Hi Isaac are the best channel I ever seen I will all was love your channel stay awesome cool and fun love wotso videos forever
Thank you so much for this comment! You are awesome! I really appreciate you supporting me no matter what. I'm glad I could make such a big impact in your life! Thanks for watching!
No thank you if you never made a CZcams channel I wouldn’t be talking to you right now and I won’t know your thoughts and back stories so big thanks to you Isaac
This is the best version of the story!
I always felt that the female voo doo priestess knew certain things had to happen to bring both Tiana and Naveen to where they needed to be so she guided them a certain way......Prince Naveen had lots of maturing to do and Tiana was already intelligent, mature, a very loving person, a hard worker and resourceful. This time the Prince is the one that needed rescuing and for whatever reason they had for doing it that way, I think it was the good powers that be that set it up for the curse bouncing onto Tiana, not Facilier's demon friends.
Witch doctor?
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Its because she wanted for her needs not because she loved him thats why is so easy
You should do the headless horseman Disney did a version of that story I think it’s called the legend of sleepy hallow. Also you could do something on the Sanderson sisters or hmmmm was Casper a Disney movie? Oh you could also do a video on the haunted mansion that would be awesome.
Dear Wosto,
I know this is highly unlikely that you will be able to read this, but thanks for all these videos. It really opens up my mind when I watch these movies again. Sometimes I even use your videos as background nosie but I end up watching them anyway. I really like the dempt that you do on a simple idea.
Thanks!
i just found this channel and i already love it you are so cute i love the positive vibes!
I always thought it was simple. Whoever cursed him knew it could be broken by true loved kiss. So he added to the curse that when he kissed his true love, she will turn into a frog. But anyone else could kiss him and be fine because they weren't his true love. Anyone else think this as a kid??
i did it was obviously implyed he was gonna be her true love its the same disney formulatic plot they set up for every movie. outcast hopeful destined female protagonist aka the princess. meets a male that is out of her leege boom automatic love interest. its not that hard to figure out every disney movie does this. its either the "true love at first sight type of princesses" classic "stubborn trust issues, argue, and fight with eachother until they compromise and warm up to eachother" as seen in Tiana's situation and Belle's and Jasmine's or "a settlment or agreement/deal they each promised eachother to get what they want and in the end they fall in love because they worked as a team and figured it all out" aka Rapunzel and Anna. Now if only they can come up with something original so i wont get tired of seeing the same things over and over again.
@@TiffanyRay wow. That is by far the smartest reply I've ever seen. And you used it on a comment about a Disney princess movie.
The Headless Horseman Theory
I’m glad you make these videos Isaac
I found this video months after it aired, so I can't give any suggestions for all that many videos that follow. Regardless, Halloween has a fascinating history, one that a lot of people just don't seem to realize, and its oldest roots still have glimmers in our modern celebrations. Halloween gets its name from All Hallows Eve, which was a Christianized version of the Celtic holiday of Samhain, basically the Celtic New Years' celebration. The Celts believed that boundaries between the lands of the living and the dead were at their weakest at the point where one year ends and another begins, and many of their practices and traditions during Samhain celebrations show this. The tradition of dressing up in our modern celebrations goes all the way back to Samhain, with three different but equally vital practices. Those practices being Dressing up as Faeries and dancing around to distract the fey from the festivities, dressing up as goblins to distract goblins from the festivities, and wearing scary masks to scare away malicious spirits. Treats during Halloween can be traced all the way back to Samhain feasts, which were as much for the living as they were the dead. And rounding it all out is the Jack-o-lantern, which is actually one of the younger traditions when compared to the other practices. The Jack-o-Lantern traces its origins all the way back to an Old Irish tradition of carving giant Beets and Turnips into lanterns, just ordinary lanterns, not elaborate and less than inspired faces we see in pumpkins in our modern era, there's even a story tied to them in Irish lore, the tale of Jack of the Lantern.
Long story short, Jack of the Lantern is about a man named Jack who managed to make a deal with the Devil (at least in all the versions I've been able to find) to not take his soul when he died, then Jack, secure in the knowledge he wouldn't have his soul doomed to eternal torment and suffering that is Hell, proceeded to go about living in manner that actually ended up barring him from access to Heaven; his then wandered the world for a time, the stories I found didn't give any definitive amounts, but he grew tired being a soul forced to wander the world, as being such an existence is actually quite boring, and actually tried to break into Hell, he got chased out by the Devil himself, who also threw one of Hell's ever burning coals that are said to permanently burn any soul that touches them out after Jack, and so in order to pick it up Jack hollowed out a nearby giant Beet into the form of a lantern and carefully scooped the coal into this Beet-turned-lantern and uses it light his way as he continues to wander the earth.
And that's the summary version, I recommend you look into the story, you might just find some unexpected connections in a Disney property.
I think because tiona wasn't a princess at the time nor Lonnie they didn't break the spell
I see one hundred thousand likes in you future.
I love that story by ed baker. It's one of my favourite books, so I'm happy to see it referenced.
They should make a live-action version of The Princess and The Frog
Hi!! This was a really fun video and was very interesting. My brother has a video idea: Who is the mayor of Halloween town? Like if u want 2 see that.
Maybe it is racism
Olga Sergeyeva I’m white and I legit think that might have something to do with it. You have this black disney “princess” but you know racists don’t wanna see some black girl going around looking all pretty so...you make her a frog. No longer black! Then you only have a black villain and little gma darkening up the film.
Can’t have the other chick turn into a frog cause she’s the only pretty main character.
But maybe I’m just a pessimist and hollywood isn’t really racist lol.
Rickest Rick I’m from New Orleans, and actually voodoo is an African/Haitian characteristic we picked up, and from what I see the majority of the people who practice it here are from those backgrounds. So I doubt from that aspect it’s racist, Because it’s actually accurate. Most voodoo priests/priestesses are African or come from Haitian decent.
Shadow Night I...think you REALLY missed the point...
@@SaunterVaguelyDown well, the tale is not set in Africa or America. The Grimm brothers princesses should stay white in all of Disney's movies and I say that as an Asian.
Both ways make so much sense!! Thank you Issac for clearing it up!!
This may sound weird, but I always thought that the kissing thing was like a chain. So, Tiana kissing the Prince turned her into the frog. It also passed onto her the ability to turn someone into a frog. So if someone had kissed Tiana, they would become a frog. And the cycle would continue from there.
Can you do a video about the movie coraline
Can you make a video all about how long Mal from Descendants got her magic in the first place and how she is able to use it in a way her mother did not at all also why she knows how to control her magical powers so well because there is no magic on the isle of the lost at all so maybe she can control some of her magical powers on her own or maybe she can not at all until she moved to Auradon I do not know and I was wondering you can help me about this
The Princess and The Frog and Tangled are my two favorite Disney Princess movies. TPaTF has the best villain and one of the best supporting casts and Tangled has some of the best music (Especially if you include Rapunzel’s Tangled Adventure). And both have the best princesses and love stories.
Great theories Issac, you really researched the hell out this theory. So much fun hearing you deduce the methods of this curse. If you read the recent Hocus Pocus book, definitely discuss that. Or maybe analyse another Disney song from spookier Disney films like The Black Cauldron. Take care.
Glad you enjoyed! Oh yes I am super interested in the Hocus Pocus book! I really want to get caught up on their story. I was thinking of maybe doing a Horned King video at some point. Thanks for watching!
I really really really really love this movie The Princess and the Frog and it's reminding me of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle do you know why a a normal girl from La a married a prince and I'm so happy for Prince Harry and Meghan Markle
I love Princess and the Frog too! The music is awesome and just think the world of Tiana! Thanks for watching!
Can you do a video on Louis the Alligator?
Oh yeah! Louis is great! Thanks for watching!
The Princess Frog series influenced my life growing up in many wonderful ways and I will hold onto these books for my future children. I recommend them to anyone at any age.
Your videos are amazing! Thanks so much😁
For Halloween video do breakdown of this is Halloween song
I back this!
Imagine a Disney movie with a Black princess...who is actually Black for more than 30 min
You have a good fairy tale for that ?
@@lalaicyling8429 well one could look into other black ethnicity for stories
And what do u mean by " actually black"
@@mysticanna5545
Probably bc some may claim a character to be black, though its light skinned or such.
my guess would be that "actually black" means not being a green frog for most of the movie
It's a pretty good theory but I think there is another good explanation. I think that the curse didn't work on Charlotte because she was one of the targets of the curse, one thing that one has to take into account when talking magic is that all magic, even evil magic, follows very strict rules. The rules of any magic are wildly different from magic type to magic type but if one analyses them, one would find that there are a few core rules that all magic systems follow, one of which is that the magic can't be used to destroy ITSELF.
If one thinks around those lines then it all fits, wen Facilier put the curse on Naveen it was done so with a very specific target in mind. the deal was that if he accepted then ''prince Naveen'' would get to marry Charlotte La Bouff and get access to the La Bouff fortune, while his deal with Lawrence was that he would get the same things and lifestyle that his master. Facilier was able to twist the words of the deal allowing him to curse Naveen into a frog taking away his identity has ''Prince Naveen'' and give it to Lawrence that way fulfilling both deals without breaking the rules, but there was a very specific part of the deal, that ''Prince Naveen'' needed to marry Charlotte La Bouff. Curses don't disappear even if the one who cast it goes away (If so then Naveen and Tiana would have turned back into humans the moment Facillier and The Shadows went into The Other Side) so even if Lawrence lost the ability to turn into Naveen the deal was still on, ''Prince Naveen'' had to marry Charlotte La Bouff. So if the curse were to turn Charlotte into a frog it would have broken the deal and essentially self terminate
I actually agree with your last reasoning regarding on why Charlotte didn't turn into a frog was because the curse was from Dr. Facilier. After his amulet was destroyed and dragged into the voodoo spirits' world as punishment for his failure in repaying his debt to them, resulting in the curse no longer being active and Lottie not turned into a Frog.
Thanks for the Video Isaac and also you think you could do a Theory related to the movie Ratatouille or some other Disney movies relating to Halloween (e.g. Nightmare Before Christmas, Hocus Pocus)?
When watching this movie I've always wondered what country is prince Naveen from. Does anybody know? They never say it in the movie.
it's not slime....its mucous!!!
Thank you for theorizing this! It's been bugging me for years!
cool video watso. i always wanted to know how jack became the pumpkin king. definitely do one about mama odie, is she related to dr. facilier? how about a hocus pocus video about the sander sisters beginnings, where did they get the black candle? or about zachery binx and why no one figured out he was cursed, can't really think of anymore but can't wait to see what you do next
#Tiana Love your videos! Keep up the good work!❤️😀
Will do Taylor! Thank you so much for supporting me. Thanks for watching!
Can you do one on the song Hellfire
I love your theories! This totally made sense! I always wondered why Tiana became a frog, but not Charlotte!
I don't know if you made a video on this or not, but I'm curious as to who is Grandmother Willow from Pocahontas? I think there's a story in there somewhere...
I'd also love to hear an origin for Maleficent. (Her backstory has a deeper explanation in her live-action movie, as well as the book that came with it.)
Amazing video Isaac! I love you! ❤️ it would be awesome if you could do Sally and Jack’s full story from the nightmare before Christmas!