If You Want To Be Successful You Can't Rely On The School System - Chris Gore
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- Chris Gore is a writer, comedian, author and television personality who has built a solid reputation as a hilariously outspoken voice in the entertainment world. As a teenager, Chris founded the brutally honest magazine Film Threat, which began as a fanzine while he was a college student in Detroit. As Film Threat evolved into a respected national magazine, he relocated to Los Angeles. The print magazine was retired in 1997 when it was re-launched as a web site. FilmThreat.com found a huge audience online and was named one of the top five movie web sites by the Wall Street Journal. Chris has appeared as a film expert on MSNBC, E!, CNN, Travel Channel, and Reelz Channel. Chis has also hosted shows on FX, Starz, IFC and G4TV’s Attack of the Show as the show’s film expert. His weekly movie review segment DVDuesday was among the most popular on G4. Chris is also an author, having written The 50 Greatest Movies Never Made and The Complete DVD Book. His book The Ultimate Film Festival Survival Guide is considered the bible of the industry and is required reading at film school.
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Chris Gore is the best. I would watch him get interviewed about anything.
He's literally carrying this channel to the top!
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Seriously lol… I’d watch an interview with him based around a question on something as dumb as like “how do you decide what to have for lunch?”
To all creative people looking to do your craft as a living. Ignore the schools. There's a wealth of information and tutorials online at a fraction of the price. Learn this way. People don't care whether you have a certificate saying you finished something, they care about what you can produce. Work for yourself, don't give your ideas over to others and get swept up in a system doomed to toss you aside. We have the means now to make our stories become just as popular as any big corporation IP, but with 100 times the heart. So, let's get to work.
Spwakong for myself and others I learned more from uni and quicker and deeper than a you tube to tutorial, it also destroyed and lowered the dunning Kruger effect I had as I thought that I knew more than I did so it made more humble.
But yeah in the US the tuition fees can be insane.
@@Hurgardet Also, self teaching is fantastic and always a worthy pursuit. But you can self teach TERRIBLE habits into your skillset without guidance.
A good example is in the realm of programming. I encourage anyone who is interested to learn programming, and you can do a lot with what you can teach yourself from tutorials, but the odds are very good, unless you are a true prodigy, your are never going to be as good or efficient at is as somebody who spent four years at a good college earning a CS degree from good instructors.
Another good example is lawyers. Legal Eagle did an excellent video where he explains that you should NOT attempt to read all your law books without guidance from an instructor on what truly important and what is not. Because you won't know the difference at first.
Formal education is one of the best thing in life in that, you get out what you put into it . . . And I can tell you, I didn't feel my college experience was a complete waste, but I can look back and see the opportunities I let pass me by in regards to institutional knowledge, the 'tribal experience' of the profession I chose to be educated in. The education system can't make you do that, only you can do that.
@@Bustermachine The examples you cite are no-brainers. I do not believe that anyone can become a lawyer without having gone to university and taken formal examinations. And even in writing, while I believe a degree is not necessary, I do think that people who don't have a strong grasp of the English language would benefit from formal education. Because whether anyone likes it or not, good English is required for good writing. But there are areas where a degree is not required.
So many are betrayed by school system.
Loving Chris' perspective on learning, very inspired and completely resonates 🙂
“If you’re not doing what you love, you’re wasting your time.” - Billy Joel
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Chris Gore is the best guest. The silver fox never gets old.
Chris Gore speaking the truth as he usually does in these videos.
I feel like this guy really gets me. It's refreshing.
The question is what are you going to do with your passion?
I love his personal story. It is so amazing how he ended up being a great person after gone through that hardships.
Don't go into debt and never stop learning; two excellent pieces of advice.
What debt does to your future is sickening. I speak from firsthand experience. This is so important, especially for us creatives. We cannot be sure of a reliable income. We need debt like we need a hole in the head.
I really like his comments about passion. I’m not judging anyone for the choices that they make, but for the life of me, I don’t understand how someone can spend decades of their life doing something they aren’t passionate about. I would go absolutely insane. This is one of the reasons why I never finished college. In fact, I’m the first person in my family not to graduate from college. If I pursued areas of education that interested me, such as creative writing, philosophy, or film, I knew I would probably never be able to pay off the debt, but I just wasn’t passionate enough to pursue more practical endeavors. Unless you’re planning on being a teacher, getting a degree in the arts usually doesn’t advance your career prospects, and although I have a knack for giving lectures, I have no desire to grade or discipline students. While trying to make a living as a writer, I know the practical thing for me to do would be to secure a day job, but I just can’t subject myself to that kind of psychological anguish. It would be the death of my artistic acuities.
You are speaking my mind exactly-- except I was willing to force myself to do things that I don't care about for the sake of pleasing others. Only very recently have I finally accepted what my subconscious mind has been telling me: I never want to work for someone else, and I want to make a living writing novels (or other fiction). If not novels, then as a musician or an artist.
I could listen to Chris Gore all day long :)
Our next video with Chris Gore will be at least 90 minutes...
I was admitted to graduate school in LA for filmmaking and approved for a federal graduate student loan. Didn’t want the debt so I said thanks, but no thanks. No regrets. I share Chris’ point of view.
Well done.
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I was DELIGHTED to hear Mr. Gore say, "Don't get into debt." This is so important. And he mentioned credit cards as well as student loans. If you want to go down the non-traditional route, financial literacy and financial security are key. Artists who understand this can not only survive bad periods, but also thrive financially. Debt will wreck your financial security and that drains creativity in the long run-- even if it feels like an investment at the time. Just ask all the traditionally-minded former students slaving away at a 9-5 to pay off debt. I feel as though 9-5s would gain a better reputation if people weren't chained to those jobs just to pay off debt. So, great advice! And I agree about the deficiencies in schooling. I went through school being trained both at home and at school to go down a traditional path. And now, I am dedicated to becoming a full-time novelist while currently being self-employed as a tutor who doesn't have a degree (never finished it). Life never turns out the way you expect. Great video!
Those 3 dislikes must be from folks in the hand-crocheted toilet paper holder business...
One of the first things my media teacher told the class was, experience gives you a better chance of getting a job in the industry than a film diploma
I really love all your content but I especially love listening to Chris Gore and routinely check to see if there’s something new here from him. I could honestly listen to him read the instructions manual for a VCR, he’s just that fantastic and that magical and always so impressive.
Thanks for this iteration of my firmware update.
I also read books on topics not directly related to my job recreationally. And years later I find myself using some aspect of this knowledge in an unexpected way.
And even the vast amount I don't use lets me see the world around me in a different note holistic way.
I've recently started reading books about paleontology. No idea why, other than pure fascination. I think it's because I am a writer. I like to write about things. So I like to read things. I can't see any link between paleontology and what I enjoy writing, but there you go. I often beat msyelf up about being interested in too many things, but as you say, it's about viewing the world in a more holistic fashion.
He sees things I do. It’s his perspective that deserves and earns respect
I learn the most when I read books on my own not when I’m forced to.
YES! I killed my love of reading for years by forcing myself to read things that didn't interest me. Elon Musk said it well when he pointed out that the brain will discard whatever it thinks is irrelevant.
Suuuch great insights. Absolutely love that he's a lifelong "Learner". I think this is one of the most honest and helpful videos I've ever watched touching on " formal education. " If you can afford it I'd say go for it but never go into debt unless you are super sure your career options will pay it back.
Currently reading: Stephen King - On Writing
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Definitely need to read that book. And yes: don't go into debt for an education. This needs to be printed out and stuck in every American high school. Millions are throwing away their future.
I’m a data analyst at a Mountain View corporation;I have a colleague, a data engineer, who’s over 50 and is unanimously admired; every time I go to him needing something small or consult with him on something big, I interrupt him on a CZcams / udemy / code academy course on the latest big thing in his field, always keep learning!
Anyway you can stop tech from abusing the people and kids of this country?
@@swesleyc7 no, I am not working for a social media
What book are you reading right now?
Yes! More of Gore. Thank you.
To be fair to educators, a lot of them have been banging the drum about this problem with the education system as well.
And the problem isn't that there's an education system that's teaching us calculus we'll never use. The problem is that the education system doesn't teach how to learn.
And it doesn't teach how to learn (though plenty of teachers do try) because McGraw Hill and Pierson Publishing can't monetize 'teaching you how to learn'. They can monetize their standardized test plans, and their textbooks, and their lesson plans.
Edit : And there is real value in institutional education . . . if it's done right. Heck, one of the biggest tragedies in my mind is how community colleges have become little more than pipelines for four year colleges when there original purpose was . . . to educate the community.
Thank you, Chris, for your deeply resonating words of wisdom.
So much to learn indeed
I wanted to go to one of the big film schools too. I’m so glad I didn’t go that route. Most of what I know now, is thanks to working on other people’s projects and reading lots of filmmaking books.
Never stop never stopping.
This guy is great. Love his student story and the things he did to expand his skills to fulfill his dream.
Just watched him interview Tom Savini on Film Threat. Now this, double duty.👍
Great video!! Yes learning is firmware updates for your brain! Never stop learning. Great msg for everyone
I thoroughly enjoy Chris's views and take on the film industry. Real and refreshing. He gives wise advice. Thanks Chris
My favorite class was Psychology 2. I got an F for not doing the assignments but I didn't need the grade and I was there by choice. The moment to moment stuff was wonderful
Chris Gore is the man 👍😎
His honesty, passion and openness and knowledge and drive are so infectious. It makes me feel that me too from a modest background can do it too. And it just so happens that I read that book Ogilivy on advertising as well.
It's hard-- but it is possible. And I do think that there's a kind of advantage in not having everything handed to you.
The legend returns
I love Chris' Beautiful Mind!!!
A University of Michigan alum here Chris. Salute🔥
people don't realize this when they start their own business, but you have to work a lot harder when the money you bring home is entirely dependent on you
seen too many people go in and right out of business because they got caught up in a vicious cycle, thinking they can take days off or come in late, and then wonder why nobody shows up to their shop when they're never around.
Spot on.
David Ogilvy - nevermind, I'm with you!
“If you do not express your own original ideas, if you do not listen to your own being, you will have betrayed yourself." - Rollo May
Alright. Give this man his own show.
my firmware has been updated! Thanks Chris!
I always enjoy seeing Chris Gore on here. He’s come a long way from the G4 days.
Do you still have that list of books?
_I'll tell you how I feel about school, Jerry: it's a waste of time. Bunch of people runnin’ around, bumpin’ into each other, you got a guy up front that says "2 + 2" and the people in the back say "4" and then the bell rings and they give you a carton of milk and a piece of paper that says you can go take a dump or somethin’. I mean, it’s not a place for smart people, Jerry._
In 2022 it would be 'Attention Parent 1 and Parent 2, your offspring, labelled Chris, etc etc etc".
I am reading Confessions of an Economic Hitman by John Perkins whilst revisiting Truby's Anatomy of Story. These were preceded by me listening to 10X by Grant Cardone. It's for creating & preparing for the marketing & selling of my artwork(s)-in-progress.
How many times were you asked in ''school'', young man or young lady (whatever one you were) ''what do you LOVE to do''. My guess is, not once. NOT ONCE. You yourself have to try to find what you love to do, and do it!.
This guy talks a lot of sense. 👍
I understand the firmware update analogy
HCC (Houston) is about $30k for a Bachelor’s. I think they, or another smaller school has a film course. I worked with a couple of their students on student films.
People like Chris give my drop-out ass hope :)
I'm not a dropout yet,but I'm not confident about my education. But I'm confident about my life. I can do filmmaking.
I dropped out of high school and flaked out on two university degrees. I'm working to becoming a full-time writer. You can do it too (whether film or another artist endeavour).
No one ever paid six figures for an education. Any number of people, however, have spent six figures for membership in an alumni association.
Really like this guy
What an inspiring guy
Eyyyy this guy is literally doing what I’m doing
I wanted to go to usc but it’s too expensive so I’m going to Wayne lol
I am reading The Wisdom Principles by Ervin Lazlo
Where can I get a hand crotched toilet paper holder? do they have them on etsy?
I never understood why people think they only need to read or lean when they are in school... Your brain needs information to apply. Feed it.
As a fellow INFJ, I agree with the need to update one's mind.
One of the more obvious ones but still neat
Well, I did go to USC film school... waste of money. Great classes, but the people... the people...
wHy DiDn'T mY hIGhOoL tEaCh Me TaXeS!? der!
Can I borrow Chris Gore for a few days?
_One downvote by the student loan branch of Chase._
It amazes me that nobody ever brings up the military as a possible alternative. I did 5 years in the navy, best thing I ever did. I got out with 20k in the bank and I used the gi bill. They paid my tuition and I got 2500 a month for 36 months. For an 18 year old kid with no skills, it’s hard to beat the navy or Air Force
Think it has something to do with following the decisions of war-happy politicians...
@@mstrider80 most military jobs are non combat. Most people don’t realize that
I am subscribed to another CZcams channel where a lot of people have said the same thing. The military is not my chosen path, but that sounds like a fantastic deal. And no debt!
I love his thought of avoiding debt. I wouldn't do student loans, but I am not sure how to start making a film without doing so. I'm overdrawn at the bank every paycheck. How do all these film makers do it when they are just starting out? I hear they were dirt poor, but I never hear the story about how they made the money for their first movie.
If you're overdrawn at every paycheck, then for the love of God, do not get into more debt. There have to be some low-cost options out there. I know little about film, so I can't give you any advice. Part of the problem is the limited number of grants available for creatives. It's always so difficult to secure finance because these paths are valued less (and the big bucks are usually wasted on other things, such as financing the student loan racket, the credit card racket, and other banes of society's existence).
I agree about debate. Generally Debt = slavery
This guy is thoughtful. He's like the intellectual dark-web of the film industry.
I mean schools are for someone who wants to do something related to those topics. For example I want to be a filmmaker. And my parents are wasting their money for a wrong thing.
Heres agood study. Ask a college student or college graduate name 5 things you learned in school
It’s ironic, George Lucas may have gone to USC but Spielberg went to Cal State Long Beach.
What's more ironic is that Lucas didn't know that he wanted to be a filmmaker, and only went to the entrance exam because a friend asked him to go, and thought it was a school for stills photography. Then he went on to revolutionise cinema (twice, if not 3 times) and change pop culture.
You mean paying 80 thousand dollars a year to watch movies and go to film school isn't worth it because you'll be lucky if you aren't hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt being a ticket taker at Disneyland. I think i've heard this story before.
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Please don't say Star Wars, please don't say Star Wars...
Oh s---. 6 minutes in.
Great advice from a guy who has made only a handful of movies (ones that certainly aren't memorable) and mostly earns his bread and butter by hanging out with incels, running a little read blog, and having a cry about so-called woke culture on mediocre channels like Film Courage.