Devils fans REVOLT after THREE goals called off
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- čas přidán 23. 11. 2022
- Last night's Toronto Maple Leafs and New Jersey Devils game saw THREE goals called off, leading to fans revolting against the referees. We'll cover all that and more on today's NHL hockey video!
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Okay I don't know if it was intentionally done or not, but throwing a hat onto the ice after 3 is kinda hilarious
Yea lmao
Ah yes, the reverse hat trick
Back in the late 60's a neighbor took me to see the Toldeo Blades hocky team (my first Hockey game). Near the end of the match, one of the refs made a bad call that caused the team to lose. The fans spent over 20 minutes screaming obscenities and throwing things from the stands, including chairs that were just yanked out of the floor. Most of the stuff was being thrown in the direction of the ref that made the bad call, and it kept him from leaving the ice safely from the normal exit points. His only hope was to take to the center of the rink because it was harder to hit him with anything being thrown that far. Finally the police had to come and escort him out of the building. When I got home my parents asked me how I liked Hockey, so being an impressionable kid, I yelled "I loved it, it was cool". Best intro to Hockey anyone ever got.
@@chucklesthered2338 but what does this have to do with the reverse hat trick joke
@@LethalLuggage what do you care!
I don’t condone throwing anything on the ice but it was nice to see how passionate the fans are in a non Canadian city.
Its been awhile. The passion is back
Yeah we’ve been bad for so long we just happy to be good for once
Passionate = criminal behaviour?
@@toke7342 "criminal behaviour". My sides 😂
@@alexboi3148 Throwing shit at people is assault. Welcome to the world.
I don't think I've ever seen 3 goals taken away in a single game. That's insane!
As a goalie myself, The first one should be a goal 100% of the time. I get that the rule basically says if they even somewhat impede a goalie in the crease that it would be called back but, c'mon unless they actually interfere with the goalie making the save then it should be a good goal. Even Murray didn't seem like he thought he was interfered with.
On the first goal Murray saw the ref had waived it off right after it went in, when he looked behind himself, he didn't have to argue anything.
The first goal called off in the first period was the right call. The new Jersey devil had his feet in the crease. Everybody that watches and follows hockey knows that's goaltender interference. Yeah it sucks that all three they were called off, but it was the right call...on all three.
If you can soccer kick a puck in the net it's good in my books lol
Should not be a goal. Its a very clear rule. It was plainly obvious
it was kicked in. As a goalie, you should know better
Hockey fans should be lucky to have a channel like this, very well made videos and short. Wish there was a soccer one like this.
Yeah man been watching them all for past 2 weeks! its like Sportcenter for Hockey 2.0
I am that guy pal
Can always make that channel yourself
As a hockey fan we are indeed lucky. Been missing a channel like this for a very long time
Dude there litterly but I'm glad to see another hockey/soccer fan but litterly there is 442oons football news inside football if u want epic highlights then Vaneomas Goal90 raymar and Oh My Goal
I was at that game. We didn't get these type of replays. That's why everyone was mad.
I think the first two you talked about were called correctly as no goals. The last one could have gone either way honestly, but it looked more like the goalie changing direction suddenly and skating directly into the player than the player purposely getting in the goalies way
Given where both players were coming from before the contact, the Devil could not help but see the Loaf while the reverse is not necessarily so. The Loaf being a goalie makes whistle-happy refs throw up that arm...
The first, Baistain was in the crease and bumped skates. Borderline but correct call. The second was the collision with Tatar skating past. Once a goalie leaves the crease, he's hands off.The last absolutely was a kick. Mind you, while it did go off a Leaf's D, it's still a kicking motion.
@@markceaser8073 I don’t understand why they don’t allow kicks, I feel like it should be part of the game. I guess it’s somewhat dangerous but I would add the fact you have to keep your skate relatively close to the ice.
I agree with you, on the first goal refused the devil’s player kicked the puck on purpose. On the second one, even if the player didn’t do it on purpose, he had no business being in the goal zone so his fault. However the third call that was 100% biased, you can clearly se ethe devil’s player trying the avoid the goal but the later went straight into him. That was 100% an acident.
I agree with you, on the first goal refused the devil’s player kicked the puck on purpose. On the second one, even if the player didn’t do it on purpose, he had no business being in the goal zone so his fault. However the third call that was 100% biased, you can clearly se ethe devil’s player trying the avoid the goal but the later went straight into him. That was 100% an acident.
I think the big picture here is that fans are frustrated. Not just the NJD fans but pretty much every fan base in league. The NHL has done absolutely nothing about it and all the old boys (Campbell and Parros) remain in place.
Doesn’t justify throwing stuff on the ice though
Neither Campbell or Parros have anything to do with the situation room in Toronto but yes, I think most fans are fed up with the league's inconsistency in penalty calls and discipline.
@@predat0r178 It does
Thank you! You are the first video to show all 3 revoked goals.
well actually @hockeypsychology was the first one to upload this according to my calculations
@@haxxcer7322 Never heard of that channel so this is the first I seen all 3
@@tracybtchinstructor4197 Saw all three goals?
The first disallowed interference call made sense when you consider Murray’s skate would have shifted sooner had Bastian’s not been in the way. As soon as Bastian moved, Murray’s skate finally has room to move left. He was already pushing off in that direction.
You know it shouldn't have been disallowed based on Murray's reaction. He had no reaction, meaning he knows he missed it.
@@BM-rv1ks you know it shouldn't count when you watch the replay and see contact in the crease immediately prior to the goal
@@BM-rv1ks bro that’s not how that works lmao.
@@LeanMrfuzzles don't care. The NHL sucks now anyway.
@@BM-rv1ks I miss the 90's hockey. Back when real men played and refs weren't so bad.
*Feel better, Eck! I just subscribed to your channel about a month or two ago and definitely enjoy watching your vids!*
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I love these videos you break it down so well, idk if you can or not but looping the highlight while talking about it would make the video even better
Good idea. I agree
Also important to note that replays are hard to come by at the game, so fans may not have been totally aware of why they were overturned. Add the night before Thanksgiving and the fans got way too rowdy.
Only questionable call for me was the contact with the goalie as you said. I wish the rulebook allowed kicking if it was not kicked towards the goal or intentionally done to score, but it is what it is.
yah I never understood why kicking goals don't count, especially outside the blue paint. its even harder to score that way
Because a Kicking motion with a shoe that has Blades underneath them is very dangerous?
Like you see in this video goaltending is also done outside the crese. The goalies would be endangered if it would be a valid way to score a goal to kick a loose puck in front of the net.
The keyword is kicking. One can angle their skate blade to redirect the puck in, however, when there is motion is when it's disallowed. I believe it's a safety issue. If a player goes down to block a pass/shot and attempts to kick the loose puck in the net well, it's going to get ugly fast.
@@Joe-mu2cn ah I see, that makes sense. Guess they need a one rule fits all type deal. I think the kicking goal here should count though
I feel you on the fever, Eck. Been bedridden with a fever of 102 for the last 2 days. Finally broke today. Glad you're uploading from last night, though! Hockey and the world cup have been the only two things keeping me going these last couple of days.
Stay strong soldier your almost through it!
Feel better
you need a 6th vaccine shot
Bro same. Felt like crap the last two days (fever, headache, body aches, severe cough, sneezing, congestion, diarrhea) and this morning I finally woke up without some of those symptoms. Hope you both get to feeling better soon. Being sick sucks.
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I told Fuzzy he should do a Star Wars channel as well. He gave me a like
Feel better Eck!! Still posting great stuff!! Remember to take time for yourself and relax while you’re healing up!! Cheers from California! 🫶🤓💥👊😁💥
Great analysis. As a Devils fan from Canada watching the game I think you explained the whole situation fairly. Kind of embarrassed that the fans had reacted that way but proud of the team for not rolling over and dying.
That's New Jersey for you
dont be embarrassed , they are americans , they know no other way , they are a violent society .
@@FalloutUrMum from what I heard from people who were at the game, what was shown on screen at the rock was not as clear as what we saw at home, so fans were losing their minds
Still embarrassing they acted like that.
New Jersey obviously had the beat on the nonexistent Leafs defense. It would take going back to even see a good defensive Leafs team.
I'm a Canadian Devils fan too. I thought it was entertaining.
I appreciate your analysis of this game and as a Devils fan it was difficult to watch the streak come to an end this way. I agree that the subjective nature of "distinct kicking motion" disallowed goals is a negative element of the game and we would be better to revise or remove the rule. I disagree with your last statement, however: I believe it would be FAR more disappointing as a fan of this team if the streak ended because we put forth a weak effort and were outperformed by an opponent. I believe from about the midpoint of the second through the final moments of the game, the Devils carried the momentum and even though we didn't get the win, I was proud of the effort I saw on the ice in the face of the adversity of the questionable calls. I believe the Devils can leave that game knowing they were the better team for the vast majority of the game AND can have the streak come to an end in a way that doesn't take the wind out of their sails for this next stretch of games.
Wonderful breakdown of the rules. Always love watching your videos. Hope all is well
As someone at the game, this was just disrespectful in any situation
As a Bruins fan, I have as much reason as anyone right now to want to see the Devils docked a couple pts, but I gotta say those first two disallowed goals seem very suspect to me. Never like seeing those interference type calls wipe a goal unless it is very obvious. Fans obviously can’t be throwing stuff, but I’m not sure any other team’s arena would have been any different in that situation.
So unfortunate for the devils but like the leafs didn’t make the calls don’t rlly understand why the devils fans are flipping them off and throwing beer cans at the bench. Very classy devils fans 🤝
all goals were called off for good reason as welll, goes to show how much these fans know about hockey, there’s a reason the nets moved outta jersey , 0 fucking class
That's what fans do
I'd imagine most were directing everything towards the refs, with some blaming the Leafs for whatever reason. Definitely don't agree with throwing things onto the ice like that regardless, it's embarrassing and makes our fanbase look bad.
@@jared3047 its still wrong
@@stealthotrapo9123 well what's the point of having a venue. Fans get involved, it elevates sports. I want to see more of that.
Eck, I had no idea you were doing this. For years and years I never watched or understood hockey. A friend of mine tried for years to get me to watch. Around 09' I started watching the Blackhawks (Chicagoan). Once I understood icing, and other weird rules, what a hell of a game hockey is. Thank you for doing this Eck. I live out of market and just watching little clips like this brings me that little joy of NHL hockey.
Me neither! Star Wars and Hockey videos intersect and I hear a familiar voice!!!!
@@OnPointFirearms It came up as a suggested vid, I saw the name Ecks. I though it was a copycat til I heard the voice. So awesome he is doing this. Love it.
@@ScarredCitizen me too! I thought it was a copycat or unrelated until I heard him. What a pleasant surprise from the algorithm... for once.
Been watching your Star Wars videos for years. Had no idea you did hockey too. The overlap of this ven diagram is strong! Two of my favorite things. Well done, as usual!
I like these videos - is it possible to replay the event while you're talking about it? As you add your insights I'd like to be rewatching the clip
he showed all three clips
A true New Jersey moment
that's the only angle i've seen of the 3rd goal where i could actually track what happened with the puck. every other angle seems to want to show from the more generic view, where you see the kick, and lose the puck in bodies. off that, yea. i agree with your assessment. i didn't realize there was an aspect of the kicking disallow that actually accounts for it ricocheting, but i also wasn't sure if it then hit a stick, so i couldn't rule on it one way or the other. the first goal i was a bit more "yea, sure" with it being contact in the crease, but it's also one of those where i don't think it really stopped the goalie playing his position. the second one was, like you said, contact initiated by the goalie outside the crease. which should therefore be a good goal.
i would be against a rule change to allow direct kicking into the net if it's outside the crease, for a couple reasons. my main one is if you have a player who is now allowed to kick the puck in, they may kick at it while driving the net if their stick is tied up, and accidentally cause another Malarchuk class incident. i don't know about you, but that's not something i'd like to see happen again if i can at all help it. Kane's wrist was bad enough. we already have enough people driving the net hard, encouraging them to kick, lifting a skate off the ice in the process, is not a good idea. the second is the fringe case of the puck being along the lines of the crease. is that in or out? if you allow kicking, do you allow headbutting? Batting with the hand? where is that line? it's a slippery slope, safety issues aside, that i'd rather the NHL not start on.
The devils player totally gave the goaltender, who I don’t believe saw him coming, a forearm shimmy on his way by. Looks like the goalie sold it a bit, but that’s how it is.
As a goalie myself, all of these are goals-sometimes calls go your way, other times...not so much. Murray better count his lucky stars, got his bacon saved by the zebras...
As a general hockey fan I enjoy your channel, thanks for the videos 🤘
There was an identical play to the Tatar waived off goal a year or two ago between the Devils and Avalanche where Blackwood was knocked over and Colorado scored on an open net and the goal stood. Extremely frustrating
Eck you should do a video on the oilers vs islanders game, since it was 50 shots on net and nothing
I came up with a term for what happened last night, and it's called a "cup trick". Similar to a hat trick but the difference being when your team gets 3 disallowed goals in a game you throw your cup on the ice.
the kick was no goal for sure. The interference calls were pretty weak...but within the rule set and likely should stay with whatever the original call on the ice was. If the Devil's were my team I'd be pissed cause they were close calls, but if I was a leafs fan I'd be laughing my ass off.
Reilly good breakdown. Your vid's have been on fire!
Lmao I watch Eckhart’s Ladder all the time for my Star Wars fill and I had no idea you were him! You’re such a good creator you got me to sub twice before I knew you were the same person
The rage I felt as a devils fan brought me much pain
This where learning the rules of the game come in handy....
@@ryanzell480 fr LMFAO not a real fan
@@justinlee4694 not a real fan because knowing the rules is hard?
Did you throw beverage containers into your toilet out of rage?
Can you talk about the Chicago Blackhawks and the Dallas stars game cuz it was crazy
Wow thanks so much for your input! I know you're a rangers fan and hearing all of this from you is a huge collective breath of fresh air amongst the nhl's bullshit over protection of goalies
Being at this game it was one of the craziest things I have seen from Devils fans
Kinda seems like they just wanted the devils to lose 🤷♂️ idk though hard to say. But definitely some questionable calls.
the first one is a good call imo the goalies movement was clearly limited the only one I'm really on the fence for is the second one. but at least it's consistent with calls this year (leafs fan I am maybe slightly bias)
Honestly I'm a leafs fan as well and prob have unconscious bias, but Murray didn't see the player behind him and didn't know which way he was gonna go. Murray went straight back to the net and the devils player knows that goalies go straight back to the net after playing the puck and decided to take that pathing anyway. I'm not saying it was on purpose , it obv wasn't, but he could have definitely utilized some hockey iq to go around near the boards or manipulated his body in anticipation to squeeze by there without clipping Murray.
Eck, I had no idea you covered hockey… I watch all your Star Wars and sci-fi videos and follow hockey pretty thoroughly, games and on CZcams. Finding this has made my day.
did they call a no game after or did the game continue
The first goal that the devils scored (the 2nd one you talked about) wasn't actually an over-turned call, the ref called it a no goal as soon as it happened, the devils were trying to the refs call overturned.
Now, you know how us Wings fans feel when Tomas Holmstrom would get goals waived off because of ticky tacky calls like those described in this vid. We estimate that he would have had 50 more goals to his credit.
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The last one is a goal in my opinion but the others where not . I can absolutely understand the frustration because so many times not giving a goal in one game is pretty rare. Never saw something like that before 🤷🏻
Lets be real here, Tatar could literally have skated around Murray instead of getting in his way.
_Players are _*_always_*_ trying to skate between the goaltender and their net, as it throws the goalie off, and (outside the crease) can legally impede their ability to make saves._ Moreover, if contact is made outside the crease, a goal should only be disallowed if that contact was deemed to be avoidable by the player based on their actions and the actions of the goalie (i.e. you can't deliberately skate into a goaltender). *Tatar had established a vector of motion, and he would have had a clear path - not touching Murray - had Murray not skated into that path at the last moment.* Now Tatar probably anticipated that Murray would eventually start moving towards his goal (as goalies tend to do when they have ventured outside the crease and the puck is no longer playable by them), but to make a reasonable effort to avoid contact doesn't mean "don't put yourself where the goalie wants to move." If the goalie initiates contact because you're in their way, that's on them (outside the crease). And that's what happened, Tatar intentionally put himself where Murray wanted to go, and Murray initiated the contact that caused him to fall before Tatar could reasonably move to avoid that contact.
This is what good goalscorers do - they get all up in a goalie's kitchen and make them feel the heat, and they are often rewarded for it. More importantly, if a goaltender doesn't want to get impeded from returning to their crease, maybe they should avoid LEAVING the crease. As a Habs fan, I've noticed Brendan Gallagher and Josh Anderson frequently doing this (pissing off opponents' goalies this way), and it WORKS...even if no goal is scored, goaltenders are a little more hesitant to play the puck behind the net when they're on the ice, streaking in to play the puck behind the net. The only reason I can see that this was called "no goal" is because it LOOKED BAD (i.e. at full speed, it the fall and subsequent displacement of the goaltender looked like something Tatar himself initiated) when first viewed by the refs, so they made that "call on the ice" as it were, and on replay, weren't able to find enough evidence to overturn it (reason #153 why I hate the "if it's called on the ice a certain way, the standard of proof for overturning the decision must be higher than the standard of proof for confirming it" rule ...the first time a referee sees a play develop, it's at full speed, and people just can't process everything that's actually going on in real time, so to rely on that flawed perception to set a burden of proof is ludicrous).
sure, with hindsight...
you can watch if frame by frame (pause it and use keys , and . to move frame forward and back)
Tatar was already mid turn going from the inside while Murray's left leg was still near the board.
If he changed his mind mid-turn, he would not have made it from the outside, he would have rammed Murray full on..
Murray was not even looking to the right.
If this was a car collision, Murray would be guilty 100%
@@VoIcanoman Sorry that happened to you or congratulations bro
I mean he definitely could have, but here’s the thing, the main issue wouldn’t be even the contact at that point, it would be the fact that even if the contact wasn’t made, he still cost Murray a second or two of time getting back to the goal if he had waited for Tatar to pass by, which would have been enough to save the goal either way, the amount of time Tatar made Murray wait, hit or no hit was enough that it would have made a difference which is the definition of interference.
Armpit of America for ya
I was a goaltender 30 years. Out of the crease, fair game 👍
If this is the way you make content, that's very good. Just a quick thumbs up for the way you made it.
I have no idea of ice hockey or why CZcams suggested me this and english isn't my first language. But i understood everything you said.
Verrrry great analyse ;) Thanks!!!
You are a great commentator and right on target with the info .You also edit your videos to a great level of art. I work in the film making industry and you should be hired to write editorials about sports and maybe more .
It is very telling the NHL will show the first and third no goal calls. The 2nd on precedent should have counted as incidental contact. Thank you Eck for the solid rundown
Where was the incidental contact? He ran him the flip over.
Murray was moving toward the NJ player at the time of the contact and made it look worse by flopping when they collided. I’m neither biased toward nor against either of these teams, and I agree with the other 2 calls.
@@uranium54321 Murray was trying to go bck to his goal crease and the nj player deliberately skated across Murrays path to attempt to slow his return. Murray definitely embellished but if you're going to make rat plays like trying to slow the goalie from returning to his crease then you've gotta expect some calls to go against ya. I also don't care about either of these teams so have no bias.
I wouldn’t say Murray embellished in the slightest. Have you ever worn goalie gear? Have you even been ran from behind wearing goalie gear? Your weight is being thrown all over the place and consequently, you as well.
Murray also didn’t skate into the guy, he had no idea Tatar was there as he had his head turned the other direction and was inside the trapezoid. Good call through and through.
@@truecrimejungleGo around the outside. That is his only option. If going inside and contact is allowed, golies will be run over all the time, and NHL has made it clear they do not want that.
Refs got all of them right.
1 - Murray was blocked from shifting more to his left.
2 - Devils player had ample time to take a different path around Murray. He decided to cut in front, and clipped him.
3 - Distinct kicking motion.
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I'm a Devils fan and this was horrible officiating. I would never throw something onto the ice but I can understand the anger
@@MidwestFarmToys damn get off your kneepads and stop ingesting ref milk from the meaty tap
i could see the first goal maybe beign called a goal but there is no way i can see that second goal being allowed. The player made very little attempt to get around Murray and you can even see the man shove Murray out of the way
you can watch if frame by frame (pause it and use keys , and . to move frame forward and back)
Tatar was already mid turn going from the inside while Murray's left leg was still near the board.
If he changed his mind mid-turn, he would not have made it from the outside, he would have rammed Murray full on..
Murray was not even looking to the right.
If this was a car collision, Murray would be guilty 100%
Murray ran into him, it’s a good goal
THE NHL needs to know that terrible reffing and a million ads per game ARE NOT OKAY!!!
I love your channel Eck. Keep it up!
That 2nd no goal should of counted, 3rd was the right call and 1st was a 50/50. But how the leafs didn't get a penalty when Murray knocked the net off (clearly intentional) was ridiculous. Just shotty officiating.
Absolutely. He stopped our momentum. And it was as deliberate as it gets.
As a Devils fan, I have two things to say.
1. I don’t agree with all of the calls the refs made, but one of them was understandable why the goal was called off.
2. The garbage on the ice is just disgraceful. Not a good example of Devils fans.
Sadly, the rest of the fans in the league will just blanket Devs fans as a whole even though the vast majority of fans didn't or wouldn't do that crap.
I’m all for it glad to see fans passionate about the game and their team. From a caps fan
@@curtwarner8505 You're "all for" fans throwing garbage into the field of play? What's stopping Caps fans from throwing garbage on the ice on a bad night?
As a Sens fan, I miss the Brodeur days of the Devils. Those were AWESOME games. No trash thrown anywhere but in the cans.
As a Leafs fan I would say the first one was no goal, the second one was a good goal and the third one most questionable, but I think I would have counted it. The goalie just passed the puck from outside the crease and was at least partly responsible for the contact.
I don’t think the refs suck, but I do think their job is incredibly difficult and they determine way too many outcomes to get emotionally invested in a team. When the integrity of the outcome is compromised it leaves no motive to care who they give the cup to. It’s just not very interesting when the player performances are so often secondary in the results to the random opinions of the refs.
I was thinking about this.. and then my phone brought this video up “randomly”.
I would have called first and second good goal. Murray was barely affected in the first and clearly skated into Tatar at the second one. Calling these off was really bizarre to me.
Well Murray would have been probably 2-3 inches from his spot which would have given him a better chance to tend.
Also the interference impacts the goalie's attention.
All 3 calls were pretty spot on tbh
Word. And I'm a habs fan.
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Been waiting for this video since I watched it last night, Absolutely loving your content my man. keep it up. Also I know you have done a lot of Leafs stuff lately but any plans for a video about Borje Salming passing?
Refs got too scared of the fans to call delay of game on them hahaha
I believe the leafs asked the refs not to call it but I am not sure so take that with a grain of salt
@SG I'm not sure either but there was definately a clip in broadcast of Tavares talking to the refs repeatedly saying what looked like "No" and the announcers also surmised that it might have been him telling them not to call it.
Get well soon, Eck! I haven't been so well myself...being suck, sucks.
Yes being suck does suck indeed
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i thought you were saying that being sucks. I was like "i know". F me.
Okay wait, how’d I miss this channel when I’ve been subbed and watching the other channels for a long time now???????
As a former goalie I can confidently say I would consider the second goal goalie interference. From a mechanics point of view you can see him attempt to push off his skate to slide towards the left side of the crease. The player’s skate being directly pressed against the goalie’s skate stops this slide from happening. What’s left is a slightly awkward butterfly in the same position rather than towards the left side of the net.
I’m a ref, and the last one you covered is the only one I think was an awful call. As you stated, the goalie skated into the player’s path.
the goalie skated in his own path to his crease, he doesnt have eyes in the back of his head. the player also skated directly into the goalies path from behind the goalie
@@koalakakes the skater doesn’t have ESP to know the goalie was going to move into his path right at the last second.
@@WowOafus the skater knows the goalie is skating to the goal... you dont need esp you need common sense
The officiating across the league yesterday from what I saw wasn't very good at all.
All 3 were called goals on the ice, and were totally not blatant. The last one went off someone else's skate before going in. Ref's took the W away (and 14 in a row) from the Devs.
Great video. Very tough for the Devils to "break" their win streak like this!!! (and I'm a Bruins fan).
Honestly, I think that all 3 goals could have stood.
HILARIOUS comment about the hat tossed on the ice!!
Also, how the refs wouldn't dare give a bench minor for the "delay"...after calling back THREE goals!
nah. the first two definitely should not and did not count
What a great game.
All I can say is that I am a proud Toronto fan 😂
Still wondering how much those beers cost to be able to just chuck em away.
Said no one ever. Poverty franchise
@@BandcampTT agree to disagree
Hell yeah GO LEAFS GO
Proud of what exactly? Losing in game 7?😊
Lol leafs are trash...but if you wanna be proud of a dumpster..be proud I guess.
3rd goal is interference. You can't impede a player trying to get to the puck.
Only the third goal you showed, not third in game, I would have allowed since, once again a goalie leaves his post to play the puck and bumps into an opposing player. His fault as far as I am concerned. The other 2 goalie interference and the kick I find were good calls.
The kick bounced off his stick
@@thefirstechlon5522 Cause it's what the rule says you cannot use your "skate/foot" as a motion to guide a puck and then had the puck score by a deflection from another player. the rule is clear on that.
the only arguably soft call was the first goaltender interference. the tatar one, tatar didnt do anything to avoid contact with murray. took a bad lane, clipped murray and got called for goaltender interference. and the last one i agree with you.
Its nice to see some passion in sports.
I believe the Murray falling down basically still for the most part behind and to the side of the net should have been a good goal personally. So that's a bummer.
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Being a Habs fan I remember when price was literally dragged out of the net and the rangers scored. The review said it was a good goal. This little skate tap should have been a good goal too
Its interference. It wasnt very physical, but contact = interference
I was so pissed when this happened and as bad as we can get we didn’t throw shit on the ice we booed like any normal fans would
Price was out of the crease when that happened
@@thatoneguy9666 Murray was outside the creas when he got "hit".........
@@thatoneguy9666 really? Kinda like the leaf goalie out of the crease and the goal was disallowed. So what’s your point
The only thing that I'm ok with being thrown on the ice is hats for hat tricks. That and when you are specifically given something by the event center to chuck onto the ice for a contest which happens in some arenas.
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I disagree with what you said on the second disallowed goal. Where is Murray suppose to go? Is he just suppose to stand still after making the pass? He passed the puck and start skating towards his net while having no idea Tatar would run into him. Tatar should’ve taken the outside lane and went along the boards. Plus I don’t think Murray dives here, he legitimately gets hit and loses balance and falls. You can see it by how quickly he tries to get up after
The fact Tatar skated purposely between the net and the goalie , will be disallowed on every previous occasion
@@joesavary6081 yeah should have skated around the outside
(disclaimer: I don't care about the goal itself, I don't root for either of those teams...)
But when you say "Where is Murray suppose to go?", I say "Where is Tatar supposed to go?" and when do you think was the moment he should have evaluated that the "outside lane" would be free?
you can watch if frame by frame (pause it and use keys , and . to move frame forward and back)
Tatar was already mid turn going from the inside while Murray's left leg was still near the board. If Murray was split second slower, it would not be possible to go from the outside.
If Tatar changed his mind mid-turn, he would not have made it from the outside, he would have rammed Murray full on..
Murray was not even looking to the right where he was going, of course he had no idea somebody is there and loses balance... That is his fault he was not looking. If this was a car collision, Murray would be guilty 100%
My real point is that it's more likely Tatar knew where Murray was, as he came around the net.
Murray probably at best knew Tatar was around him somewhere. Technically, neither player did anything incorrect, I was surprised that nothing about the Leafs defense changed regardless of coaching. That goal probably deserved to stand
Third you mean. And I agree
As a Devils fan, This game was very frustrating to watch with legit history on the line. The Devils scored 4 goals but lost 2-1... It's a true shame.
@SG you must be a leafs fan
As a Leafs fan I was shaking my head watching, two of them should have stood but as we've seen this year the refs are terrible
@bab3242 nah they were all good calls.
You don’t understand the rules then. I would say the first was probably goalie interference, the 2nd was DEFINITELY goalie interference and the 3rd was 100% kicked in.
And just like that, they invented the New Jersey Hat Trick.
Not hockey-savvy, but if a goalie is out of the crease, how TF can you not bump into them like they were any other player? Bogus rule that needs changed
Two of the three disallowed goals were unfortunate judgement calls and it's sad for NJ fans to see the win streak come to an end like that. But I also don't think those goals would've happened if it wasn't for the goalie interference and kicking. As much as they feel like they got goals taken away, those goals were the direct result of breaking the rules (if you agree with the refs call).
Like in boxing, you wanna be the champ? You gotta BEAT the champ. A KO is the only way yo can ensure you're not getting screwed by the judges.
If the goalie skated into the player was he supposed to skate somewhere else besides towards his net? The devil's player took a shortcut and interfered with the goalies ability to get to his net.
Exactly. Murray’s top priority is getting back to the net. DO NOT GET IN HIS WAY
and most importantly, tatar didnt even try not to hit murray. if he did anything to avoid murray it would have counted but he even shoved him lmao
The rule is dumb in my opinion. The goalie is a lot less manuverable and should always have the right of way unless he intentionally interfered. NHL should protect goalies more.
@@wgemini4422 I think if a player happens to already be standing between goalie and crease, well, goalie has to skate around. But yeah, if goalie is moving on a clear direct path to crease and someone makes contact with him, it should be always on the skater.
@@eggsbruhnadict4298 opponents top priority is to score, if it means taking the shortest route to beat the defense or goalie..then so be it. But be proud that the refs have to win your games for you since your team can't do it in their own merit lmaooo.
Good thing Eck isn't officiating NHL games. The fever must be altering his judgement. These are clearly 3 goals that should be disallowed.
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Thank you for explaining this as well as you did. Seems people are either all are goals or all are not. You were unbiased and knowledgeable. As a devils fan, Im embarrassed by the “fans” who threw stuff on the ice, but im proud of the devs for staying in the game till the last second despite the refs, IMO, being a bit biased against us,
You played the entire game in a state of constant power play.. what do you mean the refs were biased against you.
@@mgacy2957 there were 4 penalties called against us, 3 against them. What game did you watch? Also, i meant that i feel 2 of those goals probably should have counted, 1 def should have. Im saying i think these refs probably had a little bias towards the leafs.
@@snfriedm LMFAO. Have you EVER watched a Leafs game? Toronto doesn't get 3 no goals called in a season. They've also been called for no goal on a number of questionable goals. I do think the 1 should have counted but not the other 2. NJ also got away with ALOT of penalties, which seems to happen with most teams playing the Leafs. You don't go 50+ years without a cup if the refs are on their side.
@@snfriedm I watched the game where Devils had back to back to back powerplays and raged when their goaltender interference goals and kicking the puck in were called off.
@@jeffreycairns767you do that by losing in the first round for 20 years
Knowing Börje Salming just passed i am glad Toronto won while it was before he passed he might have seen this game before he went away. RIP Börje Salming.
The people in Toronto didn't want the devils breaking a record.
Get better soon! But please please cover the ducks rangers game, it was really good and very interesting outcome
Goal # 2 - Are you a goalie - That shit fucks you up - NO GOAL.