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Godzilla is one of the most recognizable monsters in film, and he should be. After all, he is part of the longest running film franchise in the world, but you might be surprised to learn that his history in literature is just as prolific. Without his giant footsteps paving the way, we wouldn’t have the female kaijū Mothra, who is perhaps even more beloved.
In this episode, Dr. Zarka shows how kaijū are deeply rooted in past events in Japan including the deployment of nuclear weapons there during World War II. She explains how both Godzilla and Mothra serve as metaphors and looks at how these monsters continue to shed light on social history. #godzilla #mothra #kaiju #MonstrumPBS
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Mothra is definitely a standout. She’s one of my favorite kaiju in the series. She’s just so different from the rest of the monsters, being herald as a goddess of sorts. Unlike the rest, she’s more consciously aware of the world around her, wanting to protect it, which is simply awesome. Also, her design is just cute! Lol
Interestingly, she's the only "good" monster. the rest are Villians of Anti-heroes at best.
I know right?! I'm surprised there's no Mothra plushies...
I’m glad to find so many equally as big mothra fans. Always my favorite since I was a kid lol
Eh Rodan is better.
@@eugenesaban3121
I like both, I'm glad that Rodan is getting more popular.
The fact that y'all gave Mothra some well-deserved attention was my favorite part.
I love Mothra so much!!
nowhere near the strongest thing in orespawn
Me 2 its my second Favorit After godzilla
Mothra is the underdog that fans love
Mothra is so beautiful in KotM, I almost cried. I was so happy they did all the kaiju proper justice.
Damn right
Just discovered this channel, the world needs more people spreading the love of monsters.
Monsters forever 🖤
hi DangerVille
Long live the king and the queen
Long live toho
@@John_Paul_I damn right🤟
I like Mothra because she is just a giant moth. Nothing out of the ordinary, just huge.
Except for the head lasers.
LAMP!!!
I assume you haven't watched the Rebirth of Mothra trilogy made back in the 90's.. Mothra is anything but ordinary.
Except the whole "lasers from antennae" thing. That's not something moths do, unless you know something I don't.
And the stinger
"History shows again and again how nature points out the folly of man..."
Oh, man. Love BOC.
I'm glad somebody made the reference
Did you have to?
Oh no, there goes Tokyo!
@@deanrane1961 go go godzilla
Godzilla: The King of the Monsters
Mothra: The Queen of the Monsters
King Kong: The King of Skull Island
Rodan: The One Born of Fire
King Ghidorah: The One Who is Many
Kevin: the one and only
Nicholas Lienandjaja Mecha Godzilla: The Monster of Humanity.
Godzilla: The King of the Monsters
Mothra: The Queen of the Monsters
Rodan: The Fire Demon
King Ghidorah: The Destroyer of Galaxies
Mechagodzilla: The Mechanical Menace
King Kong: The King of Skull Island
Godzilla God, mothra holy mother, king kong savior of man, rodan demon, ghidora devil.
Godzilla: King of the Monsters
Mothra: Queen of the Monsters
Rodan: The Fire Demon
Ghidorah: The one who is Many
My husband doesn’t understand my love of Mothra 😭 I’m gonna show him this video
Do it!
I'm a man godzilla fan all the way but mothra is definitely my favorite she will be the deciding factor in the movie i promise you
Just watch when mothra gets blasted by King ghidorah she will explode into a fireball in front of godzilla where he will become burning godzilla giving him her God rays
@ALEXIS MOCTEZUMA-MUNOZ you're going to get goosebumps when mothra develops into her full form its just so impressive that it might make a tear fall let me know your opinion afterwards🦋
You can say you are a moth to a flame with that one
Godzilla, the King of the Monsters
Mothra, the Queen of Monsters
Can we get an Amen to the King and the Queen?
Does this mean they are in love?
Ramon Every King needs a Queen to rule by his side.
Love the part when that guy says
"So godzilla and mothra have a thing?"
wait I think mothra with battra
@@M-a-r-c no they are more of siblings.
USA: You can't make a Giant Moth girl a likeable character
Japan: ...
Japan: i have my ways
@@tokumo2190 US: My turn
Japan: ..... are you sure ’bout that!
Hahaha Mothra go *beautiful screech*
ultraman: japanizing beam!!!
"So Mothra and Godzilla....they got a thing goin' on?"
-Godzilla: King of the Monsters(2019)
Still crazy laughing about that
What I really like is how Japan is really trying to bring Godzilla back to his roots with their recent projects ever since the States got another (successful) crack at him.
*America:* "Godzilla and the kaiju are natural disasters. Forces of nature that symbolize Mother Earth getting back at us. By Godzilla is kind of like an anti-hero."
*Japan:* "Godzilla is an eldritch horror being birthed from science. It is a villain that needs to be beaten with human ingenuity."
I love Mothra. My sister showed me the trailer for the Godzilla movie and we both just squealed because she's so pretty and good and now Godzilla is going to get to be with his friends *sobs*
she dies.....BUT she did good. the story of the movie was a bit odd but the visual and sound was amazing! (and loud)
@@astick5249 Mothra always dies
@@RodoChaska oh.....well still sad
@@astick5249 death is just a minor inconvenience for her anyway, she's always reborn from her egg, and the monsterverse version explicitly keeps her old memories.
I NEVER thought I’d see the day that PBS would do a spotlight on the kaiju genre.
For the record, I felt that the American version of the original Godzilla is surprisingly reverent and respectful.
Surprise! And I do agree that the American version has its merits. It’s just my personal opinion that the original carries a greater social impact, at least for the people of Japan.
Getting a lot of comments on my shirt. You can order your own from Big Huge Frog Studios on teepublic.com.
Monstrum what about your Mothra pin? 😍
I’ve been waiting for a channel like yours for a long time, I love anything about monsters, aliens, and giant robots. Subscribed!
One thing to note, they are now being called as " Titans" because they are more ancient creatures than regular Kaijus. I can use that term " Kaiju " from Pacific Rim just for fun of course.
Mothra and King Ghidora ranking #1 and 2 in the polls
Godzilla: Am I a joke to you?
Mothra's pretty significant in a lot of different ways, but for my money, I've always been a Megaguirus fangirl. She's the singular villain of her movie, but she defies all of our expectations for such: Instead of being huge and overwhelming Godzilla, she's half his size. Instead of having beam weapons out the wazoo, she has super speed and a vampiric drain. Instead of being super tough, she's just quick and intelligent enough to know how not to get hit, and how to land her own, far more devastating blows. And yet she's still strong enough to pick Godzilla up and carry him around!
Plus, she has the most adorable smile~
Megagurius forever! But Rodan is my personal fav
Megaguirus is a girl?
@@unepiclyepic7904 She's the biggest, baddest member of an insect hive, and she has a functional stinger(which is always derived from the female genitals), so yes.
we need a rodan vs megagurius!
@@rgama1173 it would be fitting. the meganula were introduced in Rodan, as prey items for the pterosaur.
This is a great video!! Really well put together.
However I really wished you mentioned how Mothra is a symbol of rebirth. She dies in many movies only for her or her children to rise again. Mothra gets killed a lot but never really “dies.”
If I were to choose my favorite G-Kaiju apart from Godzilla , it would be Rodan. I love his first movie and the ending to that movie is still very tragic.
Nonetheless great video!!! Go Godzilla!!!! Can’t wait for King of the Monsters.
I wouldn't be surprised mothras babies doesn't show up bc mothra will have a significant part in saving godzilla from defeat taking on the blast from ghidorah to save godzilla
I always loved Biollante, Kiryu, Spacegodzilla, and Megaguiras even though both Spacegodzilla/Space Godzilla and Biollante both "die" and ascend towards space. While I like Mothra as a gentle and protective monster other than her son (Leo) or GMK version she's as a powerless moth barely able of truly holding her own unless she's in larval form
@@andrewmalinowski6673
Biollante turns into spores
Glad to see another Mothra fan! I remember playing a Godzilla type game in my youth where you could pick between many different monsters. Me being the bug-obsessed nerd that I am, loved Mothra with a passion!
Sounds like the old NES game, Godzilla: Monster of Monsters... While I'm a Godzilla-nerd first, I always played Mothra on that game because she was just set up better in the game. Godzilla was slow and a pain in the ass to play, but Mothra was very maneuverable and her weaponry rocked.
OMG fr I remember picking mothra over and over again lol I just love her rainbow laser
I've always loved Mothra because she is one of the few magical kaiju in the Godzilla franchise. I like that she's mystic and uses her powers to seal and contain the other monsters when fighting them.
Great video!
It helps that Mothra has never been portrayed as actively hating us humans. Any damage she does to our stuff is uite by accident. ("Huh? Wuzzat? Oh, well ...")
Kiryu for sure ..heroism and tradgedy wrapped up in a bio mechanical body . Definitely my havourite Kaiju.
Mine two
Solospirit
The original Godzilla spirit gets to control the MechaGodzilla, Kiryu
He's great along with the other clone/offspring monsters Biollante (either the daughter or sister) and Space Godzilla. I actually came up with a hybrid of Kiryu and SG that in my head canon was a prototype using Spacegodzilla's DNA in a mechanized body (I was in high school at the time)
That's he's one of my favorites and has the OG Godzilla's entire skeleton.
My personal favorite is Rodan. I mean the 2019 Rodan. The old Rodan models looked “unreal.” But the 2019 one? I’ve never seen anything else cooler than it!
Godzilla And Mothra
Protector Of Earth
God And Goddess
King And Queen
The Earth Defenders
Godzilla x Mothra
@@randommanrodriguez9878 yes
@@randommanrodriguez9878 that is what i want
@@randommanrodriguez9878 no just no
:)
I have been a Godzilla movie geek for the last 45 years, it just makes my inner child so alive. I hope they never stop making them.
I love that you gave mothra some well deserved attention she has always been my favorite
I used to watch Mothra a lot when I was a kid. It was mostly entertaining to me because of how badly some of the movies were made, yet again they're just awesome. I was really happy to see Mothra in the title hehe.
The interesting thing about the way you pronounced Biollante, Gigan, and Rodan. You didn’t say it the English way, but the Japanese way strangely enough. In English it’s BIO-llante, Guy-Gan, Ro-Dan.
She has a Doctorate in Monsters, man.
Guy-gan ? So there was a guy name gan xD
Thanks for clearing that up Godzilla 👍
0:28 just listen to how she says Ghidorah
It also greatly depends on the translation, for example Rodan (row-dan) has been pronounced as Raydon (ray-don) in different English dubs of later movies. So the English names are varied. But she not only used but correctly pronounced Gojira, which is impressive as most people don't when they make a video like this.
And yes the original English release of king of the monsters was pretty bad, find yourself a direct translation of the original. It's much better
Holy shit you do kaiju. Respect.
LANGUAGE!
@@swarz08 ok Captain America 🙄
😂😂
"The arrogance of man is thinking that nature is in their control and not the other way around."
... this really resonates with how the US has been reacting to C-19
A great example of this is seen in Godzilla vs. Biollante and Godzilla vs. Destoroyah (Japanese name), in one a scientist tried to resurrect his dead daughter and the other was following the aftermath of the Oxygen Destroyer and waking up an ancient life-form. I loved the way both monsters represented a threat that create a warning, twice in Biollante there are warnings about the danger; Dr. Shirigami states Biollante was seeking revenge and the voice of Erica's spirit about not harming nature
"Not typically Sexualized."
*scoffs in r34*
Everything is sexualised. Even Grendel's mom.
@@tompatterson1548 I mean... she was played by Angelia Jolie in the 2007 film
@@MagnusTonitrum117 What? I think Grendels reproduce æsexually
@@tompatterson1548 Grendel’s mother is literally part of the original Beowulf story
@@MagnusTonitrum117 Yep, yet I think beowulf says Grendel had no father.
i love your emphasis on mothra, i also think she is undoubtedly amazing and the music orchestrated in Godzilla KOM literally bathed her in a breathtaking light.
I always like first, then watch. These videos are on a different level, love you guys!
I'm SO GLAD I'm not the only one who gets bizarrely emotional over loving Mothra. She is a QUEEN and my patron GODDESS.
I first knew Godzilla from the Hanna Barbera cartoon 40 years ago, he had a little (10ft) flying sidekick called Godzuki
I love Mothra too, also love how magnificent she was portrayed in king of the monsters i legit almost cried, make a legendary Mothra movie and i'll die happy
Love this episode. Growing up watching gojira was my childhood. And good to see mothra get some respect around here.
Godzilla, King of the Monsters
Mothra, Queen of the Monsters
Can we get a amen for my brother?
Amen
Amen
As a lifelong kaiju fan, very nice video. But I do have to say that I think you were a bit too hard on the 1956 American edit of _Gojira._
The editing that spliced Burr in is surprisingly good in much of the film, though, admittedly, very noticeable in some areas; and the antinuclear message, though watered down from the original, is still very harsh by the standard of almost any American monster movie of the time. All and all, it may be inferior to '54's _Gojira,_ but '56's _Godzilla, King of the Monsters!_ is a very good film in its own right and an excellent companion piece to the original.
@Aspiring Marauder I don't know, I think most fans have a pretty good opinion on '56 and it's only getting a better reputation as time goes by and the Legendary MonsterVerse is near universally loved. While "America bad" may have been the default position, I really don't think that's been the case for the last ten to fifteen years now, and that opinion is steadily losing ground.
Knifehead, Trespasser and Otachi from Pacific Rim.
In fact, all monsters created by Guillermo del Toro are amazing.
My favorite monster is godzilla. I always feel emotional when I hear his iconic roar and I can relate with how he stands up and fights against impossible odds.
This was such a perfect video. I am a long-time Mothra fan and she got some awesome exposure in this. Thank you for making this! I'll share it across the different social media pages I own (including the Mothra page I own.) :)
Thank you! Mothra is queen!
I said from the beginning of seeing the first video mothra will be the deciding factor to help godzilla defeat ghidorah
PBS coming up with some really cool content. PBS Eons and now this, awesome!
I absolutely love Mothra. She was my first kaiju. It makes me so happy that she's finally back on the big screen.
Technically she made an appearance in the anime trilogy, as an egg, and later as a vision/silhouette, but it still counts.
Top respect for that shirt! Been a Godzilla fan since the age of five and was pleasantly surprised to get an email saying you were doing a video on it. Quality work as always!
Thanks!
I can't believe this show is FREE! Thank you PBS and Dr. Z! You guys rock!!!
Gezora! I think the costume design for this adorable, giant cuttlefish makes it one of the most creatively realized kaiju in the whole of Toho's film canon. 🤓👍
Fantastic video! Mothra number one!
Queen!
Have always loved Mothra.
Shin Godzilla number one :)
Appreciating the king is always nice but its so freaking great to see Mothra getting love as the kaiju queen!!!
*Long live the king and queen*💪👑❤️
There is no better couple in Cinema!
Big Bopper they are the best ally team
What the fuck did you just say about us?
Couple? They are merely allies, nothing more. And then sometimes enemies.
@@themexican8720 symbiotes in the continuity where I'm from.
Not really a couple
In Godzilla king of the monsters it’s stated that it’s a symbiotic relation
Great video! A spot on explanation of Kaiju cinema and the real life events that inspire these wonderful movies.
Yes, you can tell she loves MOTHRA. She means it from the bottom of her heart, you can tell by the tremble in her voice when she says it the second time. 🥰😎
She's definitely faking, but I agree she's good at it. From the point where she pronounces Ghidorah with a soft G though, it became obvious that she actually isn't a fan of the movies and is just reading a script. Nobody who's actually watched the movies would make that mistake
Forgot about the 2016 Japanese's reboot? Shin Gojira bears the heavy metaphor like the original 1954 but based on the 2011 incident of the nuclear power plant "accident" in the earthquake. This is one of the most important key factors to Godzilla. Many sees Godzilla as an awesome creature, but truly Godzilla represents darker things and a symbol than just an uproaring fan favourite.
Absolutely lovin' this channel, looking forward to more!
Do y'all think you could do a video about the Dybbuk from Jewish folklore? It's very popular with the Mystery Unboxing part of youtube, so it's hard to find any videos about the actual creature itself...
Btw, being Danish, my favorite Kaiju of course has to be Reptilicus!
I'm really enjoying these videos, learning the significance of these monsters from different cultures is really interesting.
I made a comment early joking about you doing a Mothra episode.
But like... you actually already did it!
Godzilla and Mothra are my all time two favorite kaijus in the Godzilla franchise! Love your video!
0:27 why Biolante? What an odd choice.
edit: ok watching the rest of the video, it make sense now.
Mothra was always my fav 😍
Mothra is my absolute favorite. I'm so happy you did a video featuring her! As an amateur entomologist, I love the subversion of the relationship between insects and man. I try to be careful and protective of the insects I study; in Mothra's case, she is careful and protective of us. It's so sweet. I think her monster cry is the sweetest, too. I JUST LOVE MOTHRA SO FREAKIN' MUCH.
Great video!! I love Gojira and Mothra and they are my favourite kaiju’s. It’s interesting though that you mentioned the film’s references to Nagasaki and nuclear bombs but didn’t mention another more recent incident that inspired the movie. Lucky Dragon 5 was a fishing ship which was contaminated by nuclear fallout at bikini atoll in 1954 due to US nuclear testing. This was mere months before the release of the movie Gojira. This incident is even referenced in the movie as the first ship to encounter Gojira is named Lucky dragon.
But what about Shin Godzilla?
I really find your vids intresting Doc ! The fact that more often that not monsters carries a political or cultural meaning is fascinating ! I'm looking forward to your next videos and if you feel like going cray-cray about another monster, you're invited to do so, it was a funny moment :D !
Came for Godzilla, left with a new subscription. Excellent work! Can't wait for more!
I respect how 99% you got it right, the 1%. Is the comic rage across time, zues didn’t beat him, he did hurt him but he completely drained him self, Godzilla got right back up out of hades threw a volcano and destroyed everything. But other then that you did a amazing job! Props ^_^
I love Godzilla!!!! I’m learning his song from Blue Oyster Cult. Thank you so much for an amazing video of my favorite movie animal!
Thanks for the video :3 and Yeah Mothra is the queen of the monsters
MAAADD respect to this channel!
keep up the good work Monstrum :D
Ishiro serizawa is prolly one of my favorite movie characters to date
Godzilla and Mothras mutual and symbiotic relationship is awesome
It’s very cool that it is Official that Mothra X Godzilla Is a thing :)
Teeter Mhmmm yay!!!!
No, no it isn't
You killed her! :'v
It isn't
I'm more excited to see mothra than any other monster she's definitely my favorite and for sure the Queen of monsters i believe she will be the one to save godzilla and humanity sacrificing herself for good.
Thx for talk about my 2 favorite Titans 🦋💛💙🐊
I think it's cool that Godzilla and Mothra have a sort of symbiotic relationship like a lot of animals do in nature
Mothra & Biollante are my two favorites, not because they are the two most famous female Kaijus, but their origins are very rich and intriguing, Biollante's story is really touching too
King Jidorah?!? JIDORAH?!?!?
Godzilla and Mothra are my top favorite characters! These two really are the King and Queen of Monsters!
Hail to the Queen and King!
i FEEL this love for mothra, i saw her in the first trailer for king of the monsters and actually screamed
I hope that Monstrum will one day do an episode about the SCP Foundation
Oh no! They say he got to go! Go go Godzilla!
I like how she used the term" horrors of nuclear attacks used against Japan "as if America was the aggressors . Very funny .
Nice video on both Godzilla and Mothra, my friend! I really have a fan of Godzilla for 20 years. Formally, my favorite kaiju is King Ghidorah, the three-headed dragon. But not just Godzilla and Mothra, but every kaiju that I love, especially other kaiju in the Monsterverse the most.
YESSSSS! MY QUEEN MOTHRA IS THE BEST
_Finally, someone who appreciates my giant moth waifu as much as I do. இ ˬ இ✿_
I love Godzilla! I remember the first movie I watched with Mothra. She flew out the sky to help Godzilla with her own theme that had her English name sung.
Godzilla was my childhood hero. Nothing like having a hero with dangerous breath to come to a little girls rescue.
great video and great channel.
but in case you want to pronounce the names correctly, it's King Gidora with G read as in biG and EIga is read as in Ape.
It's tricky to transfer Japanese words to English. Russian words are also a challenge😀
But don't mind ny nitpicking, you are doing an important job and I thank you for nailing it!
"Not typically sexualised"....welcome to the internet, where I wish this statement was true
She's clearly never seen the human fanart of Mothra
Another quote: "Let them fight"
Me: *Sits back with popcorn*
I'd love to see a documentary on Gamera (Japanese: ガメラ Hepburn: Gamera) the fictional monster originating from a series of Japanese films of the same name. Gamera is depicted as a massive, fire-breathing, prehistoric monster resembling a turtle, mutated by exposure to nuclear weapons. In the first film, Gamera is portrayed as aggressive and destructive, though he also saves the life of a young Japanese boy. As the film series progressed, Gamera took on a less malevolent role, becoming a defender of humanity, and especially of human children, from extraterrestrial races and other giant monsters.
First off I have to say that I just discovered this channel a couple of hours ago and I can't get enough of it. I've always loved learning about mythologies, and monsters and other "strange" things and it's obvious that you love these things too. I'm definitely looking forward to more episodes.
Also, I don't know if this was inspired by anything other than the name, but there was a computer game I used to play with my daughter in the late 1990s called "The ClueFinders 3rd Grade Adventures: The Mystery of Mathra"
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Wasn't the creator of Godzilla inspired to make the movie after watching King Kong, the actual first giant monster movie? Also, the best kaiju is Gorosaurus.
Mine is baragon
Yes he even wanted to make it stop motion but the costs were prohibitive so he went for the whole wearing a suit and the rest is history
I knew Dr.Zarka was great, but loving Mothra, makes her AWESOME.
Motra:i love you godzilla
Godzilla:i love you to
King ghidorah:im the king
Godzilla: your not the king you cannot even Deafet me
Rodan:hey ghidorah why are you mad
King ghidorah: im the king and my queen is mothra but godzilla took it
Clover field: why cant you be destroyah’s gf
King ghidorah:oh yeah i forgot about that
Cringe m8
Gamera and Mothra need to get together after all these years! Jet powered turtle + giant moth queen = BEST Kaiju pair!
Ship them both Godzilla and Mothra
More like shi-
...so Mosura/Mithra was a NOVEL first, THEN a movie later? Wow.
That's awesome 😎!!
I gotta agree with you there out of all the monsters in the toho franchise mothra is unquestionably the one I’m _happiest_ to see on screen.
The perfect woman: intelligent, beautiful...and a godzilla fan!
Wait, Mothra isn't supposed to be sexualized? Then why does she make me feel this way...
I respect all fans of other kaijus, Godzilla is one of my favorites and my top favorite, he seems so cool, mothras my 2nd
Keng Ghoodeerah, Roodine, Beeoluntay, hahaha. These are some pretty creative pronunciations, hahaha!