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    The Griffin is a half-lion, half-eagle creature that is commonly seen adorning royal crests and perched menacingly atop buildings. Why is this ancient creature that many of us see every day largely forgotten?
    The world is full of monsters, myths, and legends and Monstrum isn’t afraid to take a closer look. The show, hosted by Emily Zarka, Ph.D., takes us on a journey to discover a new monster in each new episode. Monstrum looks at humans' unique drive to create and shape monster mythology through oral storytelling, literature, and film and digs deep into the history of those mythologies.
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Komentáře • 707

  • @aidanrogers4438
    @aidanrogers4438 Před 2 lety +892

    Historians: ‘Why did ancient cultures like Griffins so much?’
    Ancient Cultures: ‘We just think they’re neat!’

  • @Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache

    Like dragons, I am a fan of the idea that no matter your background, your country of origin, the era you’re from, the idea of mashing a lion with a bird of prey is a rad idea.

    • @Winteramen
      @Winteramen Před 2 lety +11

      If you remember from Pokémon, Ho-ho

    • @NitroIndigo
      @NitroIndigo Před 2 lety +23

      @@Winteramen Ho-oh is based on fenghuang.

    • @TheMightyBattleSquid
      @TheMightyBattleSquid Před 2 lety +10

      @@Winteramen what part of that says lion to you?

    • @LunaBianca1805
      @LunaBianca1805 Před 2 lety +2

      @@taylorfusher2997 Maybe some ergott poison induced nightmare😅? Sounds like a nightmare to me, anyway. And Scylla and Charybdis obviously were supposed to be nightmare inducing monsters after all, weren't they?

    • @marisoldavis3357
      @marisoldavis3357 Před rokem +2

      Please make a video of Centaurs.

  • @travisshallenberger9486
    @travisshallenberger9486 Před 2 lety +234

    I never really realized there were no famous myths about the griffin. I mean, it's always been there, but no stories of some Greek or Arabic hero fighting one or getting help from one or anything like that. A monster that's like a fan favorite background character in a Star Wars movie.

    • @Katwind
      @Katwind Před 2 lety +16

      Well, they seem to have been used by Alexander the Great during a couple of battles. Not as trained fighting beasts, but for exploration of the enemy forces via attaching ropes to various griffins to a big basquet with an scout inside (probably that's where people in the U.S. civil war using baloons got the idea from, as they didn't have access to griffins).

    • @WanderTheNomad
      @WanderTheNomad Před 2 lety +3

      @@taylorfusher2997 I really hate when people copy-paste the same thing in multiple comment threads. It's bot-like behavior. And it doesn't contribute to whatever the original comment is at all.

    • @teogonzalez7957
      @teogonzalez7957 Před 2 lety +6

      There was a story of one of Charlemagne’s knights riding onez

    • @dolsopolar
      @dolsopolar Před 4 měsíci

      that's my favorite thing about griffins, they were treated like an ordinary animals unlike dragons. back then all animals are tied to some characteristic and religious roles so guarding golds isn't so out of place. to medieval people griffins were as real as elephants and rhinos

  • @CuriousArchive
    @CuriousArchive Před 2 lety +453

    9:27 The idea that griffins might be at least partially inspired by Protoceratops fossils is such a cool concept.

    • @Beedo_Sookcool
      @Beedo_Sookcool Před 2 lety +35

      Even better: the guy who headed up the expedition that "officially" discovered Protoceratops and its eggs, Roy Chapman Andrews, was the basis for Indiana Jones.

    • @sabithasajan5564
      @sabithasajan5564 Před 2 lety +2

      Nope it's not party pooper

    • @brotquel1592
      @brotquel1592 Před 2 lety +17

      It's fascinating and hilarious, if you think about it: the griffin, a mix of two apex predators, could be inspired by both protoceratops and psittacosaurus, some of the smallest ceratopsids and easiest preys for local predators.

    • @eddierayvanlynch6133
      @eddierayvanlynch6133 Před 2 lety +1

      Not all of them, just Meg.

    • @samrizzardi2213
      @samrizzardi2213 Před 2 lety +17

      @@brotquel1592 Protoceratops was no joke. It was built like a boar and had crushing jaws that could cripple a Velociraptor.

  • @jrr2480
    @jrr2480 Před 2 lety +454

    The griffin is still being used in children's media, like: cartoons, movies, and books 📚. We just need to have more adult media to expand upon this great creature. 👍

    • @eroraf8637
      @eroraf8637 Před 2 lety +36

      Too true. Most of my recent exposure to griffons and hippogriffs has been through My Little Pony.

    • @jrr2480
      @jrr2480 Před 2 lety +5

      @@eroraf8637 that is very true 🐴😉

    • @deirdregibbons5609
      @deirdregibbons5609 Před 2 lety +19

      Check out the Heralds of Valdemar series by Mercedes Lackey. Also Michael Angel's Fantasy and Forensics series. Both are adult media. Griffins play a big role in both series.

    • @emmazig
      @emmazig Před 2 lety +2

      I grew up reading the Castle Glower books (Tuesdays at the Castle, etc.) so griffins are very near and dear to my heart because of the second book in that series. Highly recommend for children of pretty much any age :)

    • @icydazo6417
      @icydazo6417 Před 2 lety +5

      There is adult media featuring griffins, but you have to travel to Rhode island to get there

  • @MeekCrayon
    @MeekCrayon Před 2 lety +223

    Its interesting that people used to believe that you could just walk up on one. It's almost like the ancient "cryptid". Some people saw it, some people believed it, and some people idealized it. There was always that chance that you would see one

    • @GaryDunion
      @GaryDunion Před 2 lety +21

      I think that was true of a lot of what we now call mythical animals! It was a big, not very well-known world out there so it made sense that there could be lots of things in it you'd never actually seen. And to the average, early medieval Englishman (for example), there would have been no obvious reason why griffins should be less believable than giraffes or elephants or ostriches.

    • @matthewmartinez3907
      @matthewmartinez3907 Před 2 lety +2

      Back then it was likelier chance to see one, many creatures have gone into hiding because of us. What’s saddens me the most is that we may never see them again.

    • @nhuthuynhminh2603
      @nhuthuynhminh2603 Před rokem

      And looking at modern cyptids, some people are turnt on by it.

  • @chiefrief2940
    @chiefrief2940 Před 2 lety +101

    My father was born in Griffin, GA. He passed away when I was thirteen, and my aunt bought me a coin necklace adorned with a griffin. I wore it every day as a way to remember my father. The next year my family moved and I started high school. Our mascot: Griffins, though spelled Gryphons. Throughout my life the griffin has been a personal symbol of comfort, strength and nobility. It’s honestly my favorite animal, despite its cryptid status.

    • @loC2ol
      @loC2ol Před 2 lety +11

      It being a cryptid imo makes it even cooler! Thank you for the story! Cheers my friend!

    • @Lily_of_the_Forest
      @Lily_of_the_Forest Před rokem +6

      Live the griffin legacy - be strong to protect the weak

    • @andrewblack2596
      @andrewblack2596 Před rokem +2

      Or maybe…you ARE gryphon! What a twist!!😮

    • @StodaGryph
      @StodaGryph Před 9 měsíci +2

      This is exactly why I prefer the 'gryphon' spelling to refer to the creature. Griffin is a name. Griffon is a breed of dog.

  • @iRedEarth
    @iRedEarth Před 2 lety +74

    Sometimes I wonder how anyone could think these strange hybrids are actually real? Then I remember there's a duck-billed platypus out there laying eggs, and sporting venomous back feet...

    • @megb7715
      @megb7715 Před 2 lety +15

      Giraffes are real. Somehow.

    • @SuperRegic
      @SuperRegic Před rokem

      I heard a theory that some poor ancient greek person perhaps found protoceratops fossils exposed in a wind worn cliff and because no one knew what fossilisation was had no reason to think they weren't fresh bones so they told their neighbors no real proof but it's not so far fetched.

    • @maxpowers9129
      @maxpowers9129 Před rokem +9

      If you ask most people if a bird can fly backwards, most will say no, because it's difficult to imagine a bird flying backwards. However, the hummingbird is a bird that is actually able to fly backwards. Nature is just weird.

  • @mattpalmer1269
    @mattpalmer1269 Před 2 lety +101

    The griffin and the manticore have always been mythical creatures that fascinate me. But they do seem to exist on the fringe of mythology, and I think they definitely deserve more hype! Please think about doing a manticore episode!!! That would be soooo cool!

    • @TheMightyBattleSquid
      @TheMightyBattleSquid Před 2 lety +4

      I wanna see a Manticore that mixes and mashes the 3 together more. Imagine it having more bat ears and six eyes with bits of exoskeleton from the scorpion on the torso.

    • @ValeVin
      @ValeVin Před 2 lety +4

      I don't think I've ever met a manticore fan before. It makes me happy that someone is out there excited to see manticores in movies and books =]

    • @CaptainJack67
      @CaptainJack67 Před 2 lety +2

      @@ValeVin I love the manticore as well and it absolutely doesn't get enough love

    • @TheMightyBattleSquid
      @TheMightyBattleSquid Před 2 lety +1

      @@ValeVin in case it wasn't clear, I'm a fan of manticores (fanticore?) as well.

  • @qawamity
    @qawamity Před 2 lety +79

    Griffons are frequently included in Magic: the Gathering sets. They've been part of D&D since the 70s, and are often in the fantasy games it helped to inspire (both table top and video games). I recall there was an episode in Henson's short lived "The Storyteller" series (from 1987) wherein the most prominent foe was a griffon.
    No, they don't get the publicity that Dragons, elves, dwarves, centaurs, minotaurs, etc. do, but I wouldn't say they've been forgotten.

    • @mantisguy746
      @mantisguy746 Před 2 lety +8

      Well, in germany they will not be forgotten for a long time as a lot of shields, etc. from the middle ages have them painted on them.

    • @amarketing8749
      @amarketing8749 Před 2 lety +6

      Jim Henson's "The Storyteller" was an awesome series and episodes can be found on CZcams.

    • @TheMightyBattleSquid
      @TheMightyBattleSquid Před 2 lety +1

      The parrot griffin from Ixalan is hands down my favorite.

    • @Vespuchian
      @Vespuchian Před 2 lety +5

      Not just D&D, Warhammer Fantasy has had the griffon as Imperial iconography practically since the game's founding and has only gotten more prominent with the Age of Sigmar.

    • @Shinzon23
      @Shinzon23 Před 6 měsíci

      Yeah, but when was the last time you saw them in film or media? Well, asides from their upcoming depictions in Rebel Moon part 1 and 2 that is!

  • @paulkokorotsis8215
    @paulkokorotsis8215 Před 2 lety +137

    The griffin, along with the dragon and the werewolf, is one of my favorite legendary creatures.

    • @steveperks7054
      @steveperks7054 Před 2 lety +10

      Hmm... so is this the start of a new joke or of a new campaign? Or both?
      A griffin, dragon, and werewolf walk into a tavern....

    • @anthonyarcanumsanctumregnu9551
      @anthonyarcanumsanctumregnu9551 Před 2 lety +1

      @@steveperks7054 maybe a Creepypasta writer will look at this and spin us a web or write a nice scary story with Said entities?

  • @paulkokorotsis8215
    @paulkokorotsis8215 Před 2 lety +75

    The torso, haunches, and tail of a massive cave lion.
    The wings, feathers, sharp beak, talons, and the keen eyes of a golden eagle.
    Put them together with the ears of a bat, you get the griffin.

    • @sapphirejade5029
      @sapphirejade5029 Před 2 lety +3

      You just got my artist and story writer brain going! Would LOVE to use that for inspiration!! AAAAHH!!

    • @rahuldhargalkar
      @rahuldhargalkar Před 2 lety +1

      @@sapphirejade5029 I second this

  • @Prince_Rain
    @Prince_Rain Před 2 lety +72

    First the Djinn, now griffins! You guys are hitting all my favorites 🖤🤍❤ Keep up the amazing work!

    • @ferretappreciator
      @ferretappreciator Před 2 lety +2

      If you want more on the djinn I suggest let's talk religion's video on them! Pretty good imo

    • @Prince_Rain
      @Prince_Rain Před 2 lety +1

      @@ferretappreciator I've seen it, but I appreciate the recommendation 😊 I agree! I think it was an interesting video.

  • @ginger-ale7818
    @ginger-ale7818 Před 2 lety +20

    Griffins aren’t forgotten if you play RPGs and their relatives! They’re really common in Magic the Gathering, as well lored as any other DnD monster, and fill the skies of World of Warcraft.
    Also, if you replace eagle with owl and lion with house cat, you get the Meowl! The best fantasy pet in existence (provided you prefer soft over cool).

  • @medusa_slayer
    @medusa_slayer Před 2 lety +49

    The fact that different representations of the mythological creature known as Griffin (first from ancient Egypt all the way to China etc) makes you wonder, indeed, why the world has forgotten this majestic beast.

    • @dubuyajay9964
      @dubuyajay9964 Před 2 lety +4

      I haven't. :(

    • @LuisSierra42
      @LuisSierra42 Před 2 lety

      They are not real

    • @Luna-cx1pp
      @Luna-cx1pp Před 2 lety

      All mythological creatures are part of a world we can't see czcams.com/video/JG1CvbfHllU/video.html

    • @mantisguy746
      @mantisguy746 Před 2 lety

      @@LuisSierra42 no one said they were

    • @JaitsuStudios
      @JaitsuStudios Před 2 lety

      Because it hasn't.

  • @MadamFoogie
    @MadamFoogie Před 2 lety +19

    I haven't forgotten about griffins. They're one of my favorite mythical animals. I even made a limestone carving of one for my 3D Sculpting class in college. Such a regal, powerful beast. Plus, it makes an excellent door stopper!

  • @Beryllahawk
    @Beryllahawk Před 2 lety +9

    Gryphons are just about my top favorite fabulous creature, especially after all the Mercedes Lackey novels I've read. Her take on gryphons (in her Mage Wars trilogy they are characters, not just beasts) never ceases to fascinate me. I love that there are still so many interesting ideas about them in fantasy art, too - from gryphons that dance to gryphons that paint, and gryphon parents watching over ridiculously adorable gryphon babies. It's all of it wonderful. When they had CGI gryphons in the first Narnia film, I was overwhelmed for a little bit, because for all that it's a very, very brief appearance, it was done SO WELL and it remains one of the most literally breath taking CGI moments I've ever experienced. The only thing that could be better is finding out they really ARE real, and being able to be near one!

    • @ValeVin
      @ValeVin Před 2 lety

      I love that so many authors grew up on Mercedes Lackey books in the 80s and 90s and went on to write their own novels with gryphons as protagonists.

  • @wojciechagodzinski4886
    @wojciechagodzinski4886 Před 2 lety +64

    I was wondering about one thing. In many legends and folklore griffins like horse meat so much so that they immediately attacked even armed riders.
    In that case, what would happen if griffin and hippogriff ( after all part horse) met?
    PS. I still think that it's good time for material about the orcs.

    • @avirajsinghmehta1857
      @avirajsinghmehta1857 Před 2 lety

      Maybe they are enemies and Griffin attack hippogriff

    • @NickLavic
      @NickLavic Před 2 lety +7

      A hippogriff is the offspring of a female horse and a male griffin, so if the griffin father saw its child it would most likely care for it as they are said to be good parents. If other griffins saw a hippogriff, I would assume they would also accept it as one them. As you said, griffins love horse meat, so the creation of a hippogriff is extremely unlikely.

    • @kaylathehedgehog2005
      @kaylathehedgehog2005 Před 2 lety +16

      @@NickLavic I think I remember reading somewhere that the sheer voracity griffins had towards horses made the hippogriff kind of like an ancient equivalent of a flying pig: something that's highly unlikely to happen.

    • @Katwind
      @Katwind Před 2 lety +16

      I believe I heard somewhere that the hippogriff came from a poem as a symbol for the birth of the impossible, given how voracious griffins are about horses.

    • @samuelaraujomedeiros6682
      @samuelaraujomedeiros6682 Před 2 lety +2

      In dnd, griffins prey on hyppogriffs too.

  • @itwasagoodideaatthetime7980

    I was told that the Griffin may have been based on Protoceratops fossils found in Mongolia.

    • @gadaadyn8190
      @gadaadyn8190 Před 2 lety +2

      There are so many dinosaurs bones in the Gobi that the seal of Dornogovi providence is a barosaurus

    • @itwasagoodideaatthetime7980
      @itwasagoodideaatthetime7980 Před 2 lety +2

      @@gadaadyn8190 Cool. 😎🦕🦖

  • @beretperson
    @beretperson Před 2 lety +9

    Griffins were huge in our long-running d&d campaign and so I did a double take when I saw this video because I'd forgotten most people haven't spent five years adventuring with a member of a Griffin-themed ancient paladin order.

  • @thedoruk6324
    @thedoruk6324 Před 2 lety +60

    Narnia did such an admirable job with Griffins

    • @ValeVin
      @ValeVin Před 2 lety +7

      I think they still might be the best CGI gryphons we've ever seen in a film. I hear the director was a huge fan of The Black Gryphon, hence the scene in Prince Caspian with the gryphon raid.

    • @TheCanadiangirl4
      @TheCanadiangirl4 Před rokem +2

      Yeah, I kind of cheered when I say them.

    • @thedoruk6324
      @thedoruk6324 Před rokem +1

      @@TheCanadiangirl4 they also fought throghout two massive wars on the side if aslan and there was am extended scene featured them against harpies

    • @lostinthestorywithjeremymi9385
      @lostinthestorywithjeremymi9385 Před rokem

      Best depiction of the Griffin.

  • @evodolka
    @evodolka Před 2 lety +10

    i remember questioning this a while back and i'm curious what the thoughts here are this question being
    "is a Griffin a type of Dragon?"
    my main reason for asking this is that they do share similarities
    . both are chimerical creatures in design
    . both have a thing for gold
    . both are showed rather commonly throughout history
    . Dragons when depicted wth bird wings are VERY Griffin like
    so i want to see what other people think of this question
    Griffins are pretty interesting myths, i love how th idea of them and Hippogriff also imply other forms of griffin lineage

    • @ValeVin
      @ValeVin Před 2 lety +3

      Silly counterpoint, maybe dragons are just pterodactyl+crocodile gryphons =]

    • @evodolka
      @evodolka Před 2 lety +3

      @@ValeVin this... this makes too much sense

  • @CaptainJack67
    @CaptainJack67 Před 2 lety +11

    The Griffin was always my favorite mythical creature. I still have a plush Griffin from the movie Quest for Camelot decorating my Wonderland bedroom/library. And I thought they were absolutely breathtaking in The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe movie. I had no idea they were so widespread and mysterious in origin, though. Wonderful episode, as always.

    • @mustardsfire22
      @mustardsfire22 Před 2 lety +1

      The Griffin from Quest for Camelot was fantastic. "Sorry, master, my mouth was full."

  • @jso6790
    @jso6790 Před 2 lety +30

    So cool. I love fossil theories for most mythical creatures. They just seem so plausible. I also love anything about the Scythians because they were such a successful and durable people and yet (at least here in the States) we don't seem to know enough of them.

    • @carlosalbuquerque22
      @carlosalbuquerque22 Před 2 lety +2

      They really don't though. I recommend Mark Witton's article on the matter to show why the Protoceratops hypothesis is considered pseudoscience at best.

  • @user-hs1xb9tv6e
    @user-hs1xb9tv6e Před 2 lety +18

    The creature that first made me intrested in mythical creature. I love this thing. Also saying that this creature is "forgotten" is a bit of a stretch.

    • @Passions5555
      @Passions5555 Před 2 lety +2

      Fairly said. But at the same time griffins do not seem to have the exposure that other mythical creatures in our culture like dragons or trolls do.

  • @abigailblackstock4928
    @abigailblackstock4928 Před 2 lety +14

    Griffy!!!!! Thank you!!!!! I LOVE these guys!
    I find it fascinating how often they show up across the world, like the dragon.

  • @lilbasenji1
    @lilbasenji1 Před 2 lety +23

    It’s a great day when a new monstrum video comes out! Thanks for providing so much information about the griffin. It’s shocking how so many cool mythical creatures have hypothetical ties to fossils. I can’t wait to see what creature will be in the next video!

  • @skister82
    @skister82 Před 2 lety +2

    During my time in the British Army, my squadrons emblem was a Griffin.
    I know it was only an emblem but every time I see one it fills me with a sense of pride and loyalty to my squadron and the people i served with.
    Thank you for the video I really enjoyed it.

  • @spiderxand
    @spiderxand Před 2 lety +5

    I haven't forgotten the mighty Griffin. One of my favorite monstrous legends. Right behind the majestic dragon.

  • @tb9360
    @tb9360 Před 2 lety +18

    Most of this research looks like it comes from Adrienne Mayor's "The First Fossil Hunters" first published in 2000. The following is an except that has the information of which 2 Dinosaurs fossils were believed to be Griffins. This is also the book that supports the theory that ancient pygmy elephant fossils were mistaken for Cyclops skulls by an Ancient Greek writer:
    The body of the hatchet-faced Protoceratops is about 6 to 8 feet (about 2 m) long, roughly the size of a lion, and has four limbs, but the head has a nasty-looking beak, large eye sockets, and a thin, bony frill at the back of the skull (figs. 1.10, 1.11). The smaller (4 to 6 feet long, about 1.5 m) Psittacosaurus (“parrot-beaked”) has very prominent jugals, or cheek projections. In these deserts, the exquisitely preserved skeletons are frequently fully articulated, with the beaked skulls still attached. “Tiny surface features-grooves and pits that mark the routes of blood vessels and nerves”-are still evident.21

    • @LukeBunyip
      @LukeBunyip Před 2 lety +2

      That explains why it's listed in the bibliography above in the video description.

  • @rexevans5477
    @rexevans5477 Před 2 lety +15

    please talk about the harpies they're cool and would give you stuff to talk about

  • @redwardranger7034
    @redwardranger7034 Před 2 lety +7

    This creature has always been my favorite mythical creature. It to me is a symbol heroism and bravery. If I could be a legendary magical knight, I want a griffin as my noble steed

  • @chocothun1
    @chocothun1 Před 2 lety +18

    I wonder. Both griffins and dragons have a thing for jewels, the sky, and being noble.
    Do you think Griffins and Dragons might have been the same or coming from a single mythical creature before defined enough to distinguish them?

    • @ValeVin
      @ValeVin Před 2 lety +3

      I don't know, but I think it's fascinating that so many different cultures came up with their own dragons or gryphons. Like there's something so human about inventing both creatures, like they're a part of who we are.

    • @chocothun1
      @chocothun1 Před 2 lety

      @@ValeVin Right! I would like an episode on that!!!

  • @joanhoffman3702
    @joanhoffman3702 Před 2 lety +4

    Griffins don’t get enough love in stories. We need more griffin stories!

    • @ValeVin
      @ValeVin Před 2 lety

      The Gryphon Reading List has about 400 different gryphon novels if you need more to read =] And if you want something specific, I learned a lot about them doing the gryphon reading challenge a few years back. Everything from grimdark (The Dark Griffin) to charming lesser squirrel/pigeon gryphons with a lesbian protagonist (On Gryphons and Other Monsters) to just Wings of Fire for adults with gryphons (Eyrie) or middle grade Norse-inspired stories (Song of the Summer King).

  • @royaltycomics
    @royaltycomics Před 3 měsíci +1

    As a child, I loved rewatching the movie The Spiderwick Chronicles over and over and I instantly fell in love with the griffin in that movie. Instantly one of my favorite mythical creatures.

  • @JKJ1900
    @JKJ1900 Před 2 lety +9

    My favorite mythical creature 💕 🦅 🦁

  • @mistingwolf
    @mistingwolf Před 2 lety +7

    If anyone wants griffins in more modern form ("modern" being 90s-ish) check out the books The Black Gryphon. The White Gryphon, and The Silver Gryphon. The series is part of a very expansive world over dozens of books; all good stuff!

    • @asmith8692
      @asmith8692 Před 2 lety +1

      Skandranon and Tadrith are some of my favorite characters. So is Tashiketh from the Mage Storms series.

    • @1everydayperson
      @1everydayperson Před 2 lety +3

      I loved that series by Mercedes Lackey! Yep I'm a bit of a nerd. I also liked her oathbound and oath breaker books. Tarma and Kethery,I'm sure I butcher the 2nd name,with their horses Hells bane and iron heart aree some of her best works.

    • @ValeVin
      @ValeVin Před 2 lety +2

      Every so often Larry Dixon (co-author on those) talks about how they're going to release a new gryphon series set in Valdemar, and I can't wait for that to happen. I know there are like 400 gryphon books nowadays, but The Black Gryphon is just so iconic.

  • @onbearfeet
    @onbearfeet Před 2 lety +5

    Griffins are definitely still out there in the culture! I remember begging my parents for a stuffed griffin as a small child. (They got me a stuffed Oscar the Grouch.)

  • @eypick6987
    @eypick6987 Před 2 lety +8

    When is the Monstrum for platypus coming out? I’d be curious to the mythological origins of such a preposterous creature.

  • @whatcanidooo
    @whatcanidooo Před 2 lety +10

    I was really into griffins when I was a kid, I was even writing a book about a brother and sister who discover two griffins who take them to a magical world where they search for a way to save their parents who are stuck between life and death due to a car crash that got mixed up in some sort of magic

  • @deirdregibbons5609
    @deirdregibbons5609 Před 2 lety +4

    Interesting segment. I especially liked the connection of Scythians and fossil discoveries to the griffin myth creation. Also loved the artwork of the Scythian warrior riding a dun horse. It really had nice historical details.

  • @dubuyajay9964
    @dubuyajay9964 Před 2 lety +3

    I haven't forgotten them. They are one of my favorite mythological creatures. 🦅🦁💰🛡

  • @meh8406
    @meh8406 Před 2 lety +2

    This beast look so majestic 😭

  • @chewiecheshire7973
    @chewiecheshire7973 Před 2 lety +25

    Great video! Have you considered doing Jenny Greenteeth, Black Annis, the Kelpie/ Each-Usige (hope I spelled that right), or Pookas/ Pucks. Sorry, I just really like the Celtic fairy lore. Let me just throw in the Kuchisake-Onna and Yuki-Onna for some diversity.

    • @GaryDunion
      @GaryDunion Před 2 lety +5

      You did spell that right! It's literally Gaelic for "water horse". You can kind of see the relationship between "Each" (the ch is pronounced like in Loch Ness) and the Latin "equus", even though they're only distantly related words. And "uisge," which just means water, is where we get the word whisky from!

    • @chewiecheshire7973
      @chewiecheshire7973 Před 2 lety +4

      @@GaryDunion Wasn't positive because I know a lot of times. Gaelic spelling with latin script is more art than science.

    • @pakde8002
      @pakde8002 Před 2 lety

      Have they already covered silkies?

    • @chewiecheshire7973
      @chewiecheshire7973 Před 2 lety +1

      @@pakde8002 No, they didn't do selkies yet.

    • @elizabethchandler7377
      @elizabethchandler7377 Před 2 lety +3

      I would love to see them cover the cwn annwn, the grim, black shuck/black dog, hellhound or any of the spectral dogs

  • @joshuapersons4833
    @joshuapersons4833 Před 2 lety +1

    As a member of Clan Leslie, who's heraldic animal and crest is a griffin, this episode was a delight! Our motto is 'Grip Fast', a humorous nod to an event from our past (I can't remember it all so I'd suggest looking it up), and hearing that "Griffin" may be derived from "Giriften", meaning "grip" feels like such an amazing coincidence to me.

  • @bryanabbott6169
    @bryanabbott6169 Před 2 lety +2

    One of my favourite mythological creatures. 🦅🦁

  • @brianmcgauley1804
    @brianmcgauley1804 Před 2 lety +5

    7:20 - 7:23 Here's a question that's always bugged me: If horses are part of a griffin's diet, how did one hybridize with a mare to make a hippogriff?

    • @ValeVin
      @ValeVin Před 2 lety +3

      That's actually part of their lore: hippogryphs were meant to symbolize forbidden love. Unlike gryphons, which came from myths, hippogryphs were invented by the poet Virgil. Gryphons hate horses in Scythian mythology, so a gryphon-horse pairing is an impossible thing.

  • @kristinasohl7147
    @kristinasohl7147 Před 2 lety +8

    Came here (The comment section), once again with the hopes that you will one day do a video about the Scandinavian "Myling".
    A "creature" that is both the stuff of nightmares and an insight into the hardships women had to suffer through "back-in-the-day".
    I would also make a real world connection to "Änglamakerskor" (Angel maker`s / Child farming)
    look it up if sleep is not on your schedule. Thanks for another fascinating video.

    • @skyetoddmakeup
      @skyetoddmakeup Před 2 lety +1

      I've never heard of Myling, but I've heard stories of baby farmers from Britain that are terrible.

    • @Mokiefraggle
      @Mokiefraggle Před 2 lety

      Mylings sound very similar to a Polish myth: the poroniec. The poroniec is usually the product of a stillborn infant buried improperly, rather than an abandoned child, but the premise seems rather similar. Seems like this is a common cultural mythology thread that might be interesting to see explored.

  • @markthegriffin
    @markthegriffin Před 2 lety +3

    Always appreciated having such a cool creature for my family name, especially as a kid reading a lot of fantasy and history books!

  • @joanhoffman3702
    @joanhoffman3702 Před 2 lety +2

    Many years ago, I was in a WorldCon hospitality suite when Vonda M. McIntyre walked in. A group of us had a neat conversation with about fossils. She said it was interesting that the protoceratops fossils traveled north to become dragons and west to become griffins.

  • @skurvay3429
    @skurvay3429 Před 2 lety +3

    7:17 In Greek Mythology there was also a creature called the 'Hippalectryon', which bared the Front-Half of a Horse, and the Rear-Half of a Rooster/Chicken, so in a way the Hippalectryon is like a Reverse-Hippogriff since the Horse & Bird halves are switched around.

  • @otterguy75
    @otterguy75 Před 2 lety +2

    Thank you for making this! these are literally my favorite mythological animal!

  • @rahuldhargalkar
    @rahuldhargalkar Před 2 lety

    You guys blend my favourite topics, like wow. Thank you so very much!

  • @CoopMy
    @CoopMy Před 2 lety +1

    Griffins are my very favorite monster of legend. I've been looking forward to this video for a long time, you all did not disappoint. Thank you for making this wonderful and informative video.

  • @rahuldhargalkar
    @rahuldhargalkar Před 2 lety

    Cannot wait for more such videos! Thanks Emily, thanks Storied and thanks PBS ❤️❤️

  • @user-wq1dt7li2x
    @user-wq1dt7li2x Před 2 lety +2

    You added a biography!!! I hadn't actually thought your team would have seen my comment on the Persephone video. Thank you for sharing your research:)
    Edit: misspelling

  • @mattdeblassmusic
    @mattdeblassmusic Před 2 lety +2

    Dante: Great job not eating that forbidden fruit!
    Griffin: What part of "half lion, half eagle" suggests "fruit eater" to you, buddy?

  • @Jiddy12345
    @Jiddy12345 Před 2 lety

    Loved this episode!!

  • @MattAndImprov
    @MattAndImprov Před 2 lety +2

    I wonder if there could be some explanation to research, like how unicorns were just rhinoceroses and the Cyclops was just a mastodon skull.
    If gryphons were just dinosaur bones, I think that's kind of cooler and more interesting than just "made up stories"

  • @yonirais4699
    @yonirais4699 Před 2 lety

    so glad you did this
    griffins are some of my favorite mythological creatures of all time

  • @CerebrumMortum
    @CerebrumMortum Před 2 lety +1

    It may have faded from mainline folklore, but in RolePlayingGames, Computer games and modern fantasy literature they are alive and well.

  • @bjgoodrich5864
    @bjgoodrich5864 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for making this video Dr Zarka!🐱

  • @TheMightyX
    @TheMightyX Před 2 lety

    Yay, I’m so happy! Griffins are my favorite! Thank you!

  • @Facetiously.Esoteric
    @Facetiously.Esoteric Před 2 lety +1

    There are a lot of adult and juvenile modern fantasy books that feature Griffins.
    Great video, thank you.

  • @skyetoddmakeup
    @skyetoddmakeup Před 2 lety

    That ear cuff is AWESOME.

  • @mograin355
    @mograin355 Před 2 lety

    Loved the video!

  • @merlapittman5034
    @merlapittman5034 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for this video! I have been a fan of griffins and hypogriffs ever since I first heard of them. Very informative and interesting video.
    On a side note, that ear cuff you're wearing is beautiful!

  • @jjhggdcqz
    @jjhggdcqz Před 2 lety +2

    I don't think culture has completely forgotten the griffin, they show up from time to time.

  • @AdamYJ
    @AdamYJ Před 2 lety +4

    I don’t think they’re forgotten exactly. It’s more that as fantasy literature has gotten more fantastical, there has been less use for a fantasy creature that is just a big, badass beast. Maybe if they had some kind of magic we’d see more of them.

  • @jaxxi9036
    @jaxxi9036 Před 2 lety +1

    Another cool and informative episode Dr. Z. But what's even cooler is your ornate earring. I can't tell from my tiny-ass phone if that's supposed to be a griffin's wing, or just a wing in general. Either way, I love it!!

    • @pbsstoried
      @pbsstoried  Před 2 lety

      It’s a wing! Good eye. Just my little nod in this episode-*Dr.Z*

  • @rociomiranda5684
    @rociomiranda5684 Před 2 lety +1

    I love this video and support the idea of having one about the manticore. That's a cool monster not very often seen in popular media.

    • @rowanmccracken5041
      @rowanmccracken5041 Před 9 měsíci

      Agreed! Manticores are some of my favourite mythical beasts!

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ Před 2 lety +1

    Great video! Griffins are awesome, and a favorite from my earliest AD&D gaming days!👍🧙😎

  • @mm3fredeluces490
    @mm3fredeluces490 Před 2 lety

    Love your Show! Griffin are awesome!

  • @av7501
    @av7501 Před 2 lety +1

    Dr. Zarka: elite.

  • @diontaedaughtry974
    @diontaedaughtry974 Před 2 lety

    Very interesting and insightful

  • @thomascrownrg
    @thomascrownrg Před 2 lety

    Many thanks for this one..!
    I spent much of my childhood being regaled lol.

  • @Yohanes_Wijaya
    @Yohanes_Wijaya Před 2 lety +2

    I totally LOVE your earring(?) Dr. Z!

  • @tecnotrog1
    @tecnotrog1 Před 2 lety

    Excellent story🦉

  • @STEVIEABRAHAM
    @STEVIEABRAHAM Před 2 lety

    Dr. Z is back!!!!!!!! 🔥 Such a good series Monstrum, and she narrates it so well!!!

  • @brwhite5368
    @brwhite5368 Před 2 lety

    Finally. One of my favorite mythical creatures.

  • @Guydude777
    @Guydude777 Před 2 lety +1

    Definitely a favorite as far as fantasy creatures go. Griffins are classic.

  • @noahhogan9308
    @noahhogan9308 Před 2 lety

    AHHH, now THAT was a GREAT episode!!! :) I LOVE griffins!!!

  • @camibvaz
    @camibvaz Před 2 lety

    I am in love with your earring!

  • @nessus47
    @nessus47 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you for this. Griffons are my all time fave mythical being but I never knew where it originated from. This was most interesting.

  • @kailanGoreng
    @kailanGoreng Před 4 měsíci

    It has always been my favorite mythical creature. They are simply awesome!

  • @scottieman2
    @scottieman2 Před 2 lety

    Great video.

  • @SeanM375
    @SeanM375 Před 2 lety

    Glad you finally got to the Griffin, another great episode, and on a serious note, you should do a blooper reel video :-)

  • @danr.1299
    @danr.1299 Před 2 lety

    Dr. Z looking stunning as always

  • @foolslayer9416
    @foolslayer9416 Před 2 lety +1

    Wow, my favorite mythological creature next to dragons is being covered. My birthday came early!

  • @wouter.de.ruiter
    @wouter.de.ruiter Před 2 lety

    Love your ear jewellery! Could you show a close up of that?

  • @billyalarie929
    @billyalarie929 Před 2 lety +1

    i could listen to Dr. Zarka talk to me about these kinds of things all day. her enthusiasm is both phenomenal AND genuine.

  • @OldGreyGryphon
    @OldGreyGryphon Před 2 lety +1

    The gryphon and the werewolf are my two favorite mythological beasts. Griffins deserve more media attention/use.

    • @ValeVin
      @ValeVin Před 2 lety +1

      I remember on Twitter one artist spent most of a year drawing were-gryphons. Was that you?

    • @OldGreyGryphon
      @OldGreyGryphon Před 2 lety +1

      @@ValeVin Sadly no, but that sounds amazing! I’ll be looking them up now. Thank you.

    • @gandalflotr2898
      @gandalflotr2898 Před rokem

      There's a tv show called my little pony friendship is magic there's a Griffin race living in a country called Griffonstone

  • @javieraleman8150
    @javieraleman8150 Před 2 lety

    A beautiful creature!!! Our era don't deserve such majestic being!!!!!!!

  • @MWhaleK
    @MWhaleK Před 2 lety +2

    Forgotten? The Griffin? Hardly!!

  • @johnnyrepine937
    @johnnyrepine937 Před 2 lety

    Nice earring, Dr. Z! ✨

  • @loganl3746
    @loganl3746 Před 2 lety +4

    Griffins have also been important in Jewish art through the ages, as well. Where do you think the Christians got it from, at least partially, haha. There's even the idea that the "bird" heads depicting the Jews in the Bird's Head Haggadah (c. 1300) are actually griffin heads. They're also similiar to Cherubim, as they are traditionally described.

  • @christianchauhan23
    @christianchauhan23 Před 2 lety +4

    Half-🦅 & Half-🦁, #Griffin is the King Of All Supernatural Creatures.
    🦅 is the King of the Skys &
    🦁 is the King of the Beasts.
    ❤ all your video's 👍.

  • @glorleastephanib.villanuev6351

    I remember our school department's name back in college. We were called the green griffin. Griffins do look majestic. Anyway, I hope to see more of these videos. I seriously wanna know as many monsters all around the world I can possibly know. I'm also hoping for videos of Philippine-related monsters and folklores so that many folks will know about them too.

  • @LightsOnTrees
    @LightsOnTrees Před 2 lety

    very fitting earing!

  • @masterseal0418
    @masterseal0418 Před 2 lety +1

    Griffin: *Appears*
    Me: "Flock off, featherface!"