🇬🇧 MY SUZUKI GSX-R1000R IN TRACK MODE - TESTING DONINGTON PARK - NOLIMITS TRACKDAYS

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  • NoLimits TrackDay in Donington Park. 1st proper test with my track GSX-R1000R. I push for lap times and compare with the standard road bike.
    My track bike is now equipped with Öhlins suspensions, race bodywork by Profibre.co.uk stickers by CD RACE DESIGNS & Paint by Steve Langley. Akrapovič Evolution Line Titanium exhaust remapped by PCR Performance.
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  • @SylvainGuintoli
    @SylvainGuintoli  Před 3 lety +4

    Version 🇫🇷 ici ⬇️
    czcams.com/video/Lvf-J-2HWTU/video.html

    • @Officialnrb
      @Officialnrb Před 2 lety

      Just love you and Hodgy having a laugh on BT sport mate

  • @jg5529
    @jg5529 Před 3 lety +158

    Crushing dreams of the A Group trackday riders everywhere

    • @Starfield6824
      @Starfield6824 Před rokem

      What are you on about!
      He built his bike wrong and hasn't got a clue!!
      I know this because I designed and did all the friggin R&D for 10 years

  • @oggystig
    @oggystig Před 3 lety +24

    It's unusual to see someone so over qualified do regular stuff on CZcams.
    You're cool as fuck and totally normal in the way you casually do your thing in which you are world class at. The fact that regular track day riders are your traffic makes it funny and adds real perspective for us regular riders. When I see onboard footage from a pro riding with other pros the difference to a regular "fast group rider" is only in my imagination.
    Seeing it in real time and in real life is amazing.
    It's so refreshing and makes for really great content.
    Favourite bike channel by far.

  • @JamieW5024
    @JamieW5024 Před 3 lety +121

    When you make an advanced trackday group look like the novice group 😂

    • @TheBalija1
      @TheBalija1 Před 3 lety +7

      And they are probably all running slicks, while SG50 is on road legal tires.

    • @MantisRacing
      @MantisRacing Před 3 lety +3

      I noticed this as well. It made me chuckle watching it.

    • @shaokahn983
      @shaokahn983 Před 3 lety +16

      Sure thing. A World Superbike Champion, with world level multi-series racing credentials, having been a Moto GP rider and now a test rider to a factory Moto GP team, has got to have lots of mad skills on a track bike! No weekend racer, no matter how good he is, will ever be able to race anywhere near the same level.

    • @adamksiazek9742
      @adamksiazek9742 Před 3 lety +16

      @@shaokahn983 No shit, Sherlock :D

    • @cypher9000
      @cypher9000 Před 3 lety +2

      I managed 1:56 on Ron Haslam's 1000cc bikes on my first attempt at Donington so I guess I shouldn't be too ashamed to be 22 seconds off his pace :D

  • @CarloPiana
    @CarloPiana Před 3 lety +44

    Oh, look that guy wearing Guintoli's colors eheh, quite bold, isn't he? Darn, what was it? The Guintoli look-alike just zoomed past me like a lighting bolt! Man, this chap can ride, I would do some racing if I were him! I'm gonna give him some advice...

  • @jgrose9
    @jgrose9 Před 3 lety +52

    That's an impressive pace on street legal rubber. A good reminder that most of us don't need slicks and a bigger bike, we need training and track time.

    • @1998TDM
      @1998TDM Před 3 lety +3

      Nailed it. Training and practice, best modification ever.

    • @DrNat1
      @DrNat1 Před 3 lety +1

      This guy is/was the Suzuki motogp test rider......fuckin quick on a 50cc 👍🏼😂

    • @canismajoris6733
      @canismajoris6733 Před 2 lety

      Slicks are safer

  • @cristian821987
    @cristian821987 Před 3 lety +57

    The ammount of time he gains in corner exit is mind boggeling

    • @halfblindmotonut
      @halfblindmotonut Před 3 lety

      Exactly. Like the actual hell am I witnessing 😮

    • @joshuaespinoza5082
      @joshuaespinoza5082 Před 3 lety +1

      I believe having a well prepped enter gives a clear prepped exit vs coming in hot.

  • @randomdude239
    @randomdude239 Před 3 lety +22

    Videos like this show the true meaning of the phrase “there’s levels to this game”.

  • @Chigoesandflea
    @Chigoesandflea Před 3 lety +30

    Seems fairly simple now.....brake 30 yards later, hold 20 mph more corner speed, full throttle at the apex. Easy. I've got it now.

    • @mozer30
      @mozer30 Před 3 lety +9

      Don’t forget to turn your “self preservation mode” OFF 😂👍

    • @jangabrielreyes4754
      @jangabrielreyes4754 Před 3 lety +2

      How was it mate? Did you try it 😂

    • @countalucard3405
      @countalucard3405 Před 2 lety +1

      @@jangabrielreyes4754 He flew off

  • @timothymills733
    @timothymills733 Před 3 lety +32

    This is a fascinating series. Watching the evolution of a standard bike to a track bike, by someone with top level experience developing a bike, is a treat. I hope we get to see the ECU work and how and why different options are chosen.

    • @madsmk75
      @madsmk75 Před 3 lety

      czcams.com/video/uLnH_ShKm94/video.html

  • @Endurorodzndubz
    @Endurorodzndubz Před 3 lety +16

    I can hear the pub talk now, about how they raced Sylvain at Donnington, but the go pro stopped working

    • @oggystig
      @oggystig Před 3 lety

      At the Ace Cafe I once heard a fella state:
      "I was entering the roundabout, backin it in, knee down........wheelie out". These words have stuck with me for years. When I hear fantasy bike bragging I always hear in my head "knee down, wheelie out".
      Classic bullshit bike bragging.
      Oh........and he couldn't ride for shit I later saw.

  • @gentleman2012
    @gentleman2012 Před 3 lety +6

    They used to say that V Rossi would lap everyone in a Donington fast group within 3 laps - looks like Monsieur Guintoli could likely do the same!

  • @laz1go286
    @laz1go286 Před 3 lety +17

    Wow,when a GP rider is on track then the entire A-group seems like going backwards lol🤩
    Incredible gains on braking and even more on acceleration.

  • @johnkattenhorn
    @johnkattenhorn Před 3 lety +5

    Sylvain, the thing I've really enjoyed about this videos of converting your road bike to track bike is that I don't have to throw a tonne of money at it and that for me and what I want to do which is track days that a standard bike with some basic modifications is all I need.

  • @mdbacolod
    @mdbacolod Před 3 lety +9

    Unbelievable difference in skill level, made everyone look like they were on a cool down lap. Loving this series 👍🏼

  • @Misanthrope84
    @Misanthrope84 Před 3 lety +8

    Wow, this just goes to show that everything is relative. You're the fastest of all your mates, then comes this guy and smashes your hopes for life. Amazing content as always!!!

  • @jonathanwilcox7318
    @jonathanwilcox7318 Před 3 lety +6

    Imagine smashing along in the fast group on a track day on your track prepped bike thinking you're awesome and Sylvain comes past you still hard on the gas as you're frantically pawing at the brake lever 😆

  • @mikeb9281
    @mikeb9281 Před 3 lety +4

    Is a simple person, I see a video from Sylvain, I click like 👍

  • @sonotover
    @sonotover Před 3 lety +24

    Holy hell does this guy shred on a bike. Those poor track day guys looked like they were all riding 125cc bikes.

  • @malcellison8831
    @malcellison8831 Před 3 lety +1

    Fantastic content, Sylvain. What a great bike development project this is! Thanks.

  • @Showmetheevidence-
    @Showmetheevidence- Před 3 lety +5

    OMG that exhaust sounds epic!

  • @joshuaespinoza5082
    @joshuaespinoza5082 Před 3 lety

    Super stoked I get to view these special videos! Thank you so much for inspiration! ❤

  • @blakehickey1445
    @blakehickey1445 Před 3 lety

    Absolutely amazing video Sylvain. Thank you for doing this. I learnt something watching this. 👌

  • @johnb897
    @johnb897 Před 3 lety +1

    Amazing what a road bike is capable of and a testament of your skill level, thank you!!!

  • @kevinstreet5709
    @kevinstreet5709 Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks mate,another great video, good luck in all you do

  • @999Rabs
    @999Rabs Před 3 lety +2

    Mesmerising to watch. The Akra sounds unreal, especially when you nudged the limiter on a couple of occasions. What got me the most was how much later you braked vs. old mate on his trick track day bike, and then the drive you get out of corners! Again a couple of the other guys who managed to get close (ish) mid corner get completely smashed as you exit and leave them for dust. A great lesson of how to square the corner off and stand it up on exit as quickly as possible. Loving the channel!!!

  • @xavierlaraserra
    @xavierlaraserra Před 3 lety +8

    This is awesome and a clue of how technology advance, as a reference to the 500cc last years, with an absolutely stock bike you was about 4 seconds from pole on 1999 GP, but now you are chasing the last second to be on pole, against Criville and Doohan, just with the ohlins, akrapovic, ecu repro, and obviously your world champion skills!
    Link for reference:
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_British_motorcycle_Grand_Prix

    • @Endurorodzndubz
      @Endurorodzndubz Před 3 lety

      Be interesting to see if anyone will every brake Barry Sheene's fastest ever lap record from 1977

    • @xavierlaraserra
      @xavierlaraserra Před 3 lety

      @@Endurorodzndubz Obviously that means that the track was modified and it is different from the actual one, so no possible then to beat

  • @peterdelaney5982
    @peterdelaney5982 Před 3 lety +9

    That was me on the zx10 at the beginning coming onto the back straight, any chance you can post the video of the full session so I can see how bad I am 😂👍

  • @LIKWID
    @LIKWID Před 3 lety +1

    3:08 almost caught an accident on the rear camera too, close to taking the guy in front out! Incredible riding and to hear that machine just sing, loving every step of this GSXR journey Sylvain!

  • @Marc99999
    @Marc99999 Před 3 lety

    Got these guys properly chopped! Un pur régal! Un grand merci.

  • @andrewrobinson1116
    @andrewrobinson1116 Před 3 lety

    Excellent video. Really enjoyed it. Thanks Sylvain. I suspect most of us would struggle to get anywhere near your road bike time even on the modified version of the bike!! Looking forward to hearing the outcome of the rest of the mods.

  • @RickyJr46
    @RickyJr46 Před 3 lety

    SG, it is a real thrill to see the Suzuki MotoGP bike in action- for sure, this program is receiving expert input. The GSX-RR corners as if it had thrust vectoring...keep up the fantastic efforts, team!

  • @chutney
    @chutney Před 3 lety

    Was at Donington today on a much less powerful 400gsxr but used these videos as an idea where to put myself on track it was a big help for a total newbie thanks!

  • @moorepower13
    @moorepower13 Před 3 lety

    Thank you for being such a fantastic guide everyone!

  • @stevethomas4615
    @stevethomas4615 Před 3 lety

    Great to watch and listen to, as always.
    And as for the 'mahoosive' difference watching the others in slo-mo...says it all 😁

  • @vigt1
    @vigt1 Před 3 lety +18

    Poor pilots... they just saw a bullet flying by
    Love the content on your channel. The bike looks and sound amazing.
    What is the end goal with this bike by the way ?

    • @SylvainGuintoli
      @SylvainGuintoli  Před 3 lety +46

      No particular end goal, just making it faster on track step by step, testing upgrades and most of all having fun 😎

  • @one-of-us9939
    @one-of-us9939 Před 3 lety

    He shoots... He scores!
    That was fun... Bravo my bro!

  • @robertmenzies6939
    @robertmenzies6939 Před 3 lety

    Your bike and your riding is on another planet. I was on this track day with you in advanced group also with Tommy Bridewell. Thought I was doing ok with a 1:57 on a ZX636 you came past me like I was standing still. You are so quick. Looking forward to watching more of your vids.

  • @mbracing748
    @mbracing748 Před 2 lety

    OMG this is great. PMSL on every corner.. so freaking quick.

  • @IbizatorVideos
    @IbizatorVideos Před 3 lety

    Absolutely nice information. Thanks!

  • @NitroglicerinaBumBum
    @NitroglicerinaBumBum Před 3 lety

    Very good job and very nice analysis!!

  • @mateomotors8945
    @mateomotors8945 Před 3 lety +1

    Way to humble everyone else in the same riding group🤣, amazing content man, thank you for sharing it with all of us.

  • @yShadow
    @yShadow Před 3 lety

    Great content and incredible riding! Amazing what almost stock bike can do in the hands of a professional.

  • @kishored.bsingham8427
    @kishored.bsingham8427 Před 3 lety

    This is an awesome video sylvain ... good job

  • @johnbrutales2472
    @johnbrutales2472 Před 3 lety +1

    great sound great bike great rider

  • @-DC-
    @-DC- Před 3 lety

    Absolutely hilarious Guinter's slays all 💪

  • @Zeebo1uk
    @Zeebo1uk Před 3 lety +1

    Loving the content

  • @123micromidas
    @123micromidas Před 3 lety +10

    I applaud you Sylvain for your channel! It is very interesting to listen to your opinions on and explanations of racing.
    Love your GSX-R project! Are you going racing with it, or just fun/trackdays?

  • @StevieSmith77
    @StevieSmith77 Před 3 lety

    Another brilliant Vid

  • @shaneenticott6490
    @shaneenticott6490 Před 2 lety

    That corner exit drive! 😯

  • @MrLeeson660
    @MrLeeson660 Před 3 lety +1

    Love ur content so much. Incredible riding what a privilege to share the tarmac with a motogp rider. Few egos put away no doubt 😂

  • @danielrusnak21
    @danielrusnak21 Před 9 měsíci

    Fast boys destroyer.Respect.

  • @rudranauth.persaud6248

    Fantastic video

  • @moto_ronto
    @moto_ronto Před 3 lety

    LOL love how the advanced trackday participants are essentially "traffic" ... incredible.

  • @Bornie205
    @Bornie205 Před 3 lety

    awesome video again Sylvain. The standard bike on top speed and mid corner is super impressive. Assuming the same brakes the suspension allows for much deeper braking it would seem

  • @andrewrobinson1116
    @andrewrobinson1116 Před 3 lety

    I was at a track day at Snetterton in June, and so was Scott Redding. "On another level" doesn't do it justice...!

  • @crsteixeira1865
    @crsteixeira1865 Před 2 lety +1

    SUPER!!!!!!

  • @JDeezle21
    @JDeezle21 Před 3 lety +1

    This like an NBA bench player stepping on the courts of a competitive open gym session and then casually wiping the floor with everyone who said he sucks. Absolute demolition. Lol

  • @batshitcrazymotorcycles7044

    Excellent !!!! Thank you

  • @NinjaKoalaAUTW
    @NinjaKoalaAUTW Před 2 lety

    woh Champ, take it easy, you make them look like they are on static

  • @hipposnakeyo
    @hipposnakeyo Před 3 lety +1

    Amazing series, look at that G force!

  • @solidsteal
    @solidsteal Před 3 lety +1

    Amazing to see the different lines and outcomes from a GP and a non-GP rider. Question: this track with its deep apex's appears to favor a strong engine-brake setting. Can you explain in more detail engine-brake tuning and perhaps adapting to an 'optimal' bike setup vs. a bike setup to your riding abilities/style?
    Great stuff! Keep them coming!

  • @tommidahlberg1451
    @tommidahlberg1451 Před 3 lety

    Awesome content!

  • @SB-Kiwi
    @SB-Kiwi Před 3 lety

    Awesome. Thanks 👍 🙂

  • @martijnjonkers2179
    @martijnjonkers2179 Před 2 lety

    I guess the rest of the group quit riding afterwards? Amazing talent and informative video!

  • @bassboosted9708
    @bassboosted9708 Před 3 lety

    Pro rider.👏👏👏

  • @ChumiStu
    @ChumiStu Před 3 lety +1

    Your exit of Melbourne loop is even more impressive than watching it track side.

  • @Showmetheevidence-
    @Showmetheevidence- Před 3 lety +10

    Geez man, some of these guys look so slow. I know Sylvia is world class, but damn!!!

    • @JamieW5024
      @JamieW5024 Před 3 lety

      Cause some of them are. A lot of people on trackdays think they're better than they are.

    • @BruceWayne-hf7zw
      @BruceWayne-hf7zw Před 3 lety

      @@JamieW5024 but surely they need a full on bsb bike for advanced group racing. A crappy gixxer won't let them realise their awesome potential 😅

  • @terdampar_naikrakit
    @terdampar_naikrakit Před 3 lety

    A very professional content,.

  • @raynic1173
    @raynic1173 Před 3 lety

    Cool vid!

  • @RiderReviews
    @RiderReviews Před 3 lety

    Bikes looking good 🔥

  • @jaybusa3302
    @jaybusa3302 Před 3 lety

    Its crazy because it sounds like you are going full power out of the corners but i didnt see the bike whellie even once...nice laps 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

    • @SylvainGuintoli
      @SylvainGuintoli  Před 3 lety +2

      Power is high on the GSX-R1000 but delivery is smooth with VVT system. + the electronics help too 😎

  • @youtubemies
    @youtubemies Před 3 lety +2

    Racechrono is a great product indeed, still have a n old Nokia with 5Hz bt gps for my random track days.

  • @lookatpalacios
    @lookatpalacios Před 3 lety

    Great!!

  • @fabriceromain5379
    @fabriceromain5379 Před 3 lety

    Thanks a lot Sylvain great vid as usual. Just one remark about the data comparison, seems to me that x axis is the actual position on the track. Not directly related to time thus the time spent in a corner can not be compared for the road and track version of your bike as easily. Most probably there is another way to show the data with x axis related to lap time, but because of the lap time différence the corners will no more be superimposed, and the fastest lap will of course end before your road version time.
    Anyway always a pleasure to see a French pilot riding as fast, and taking the time to explain us all those things. Thanks again

    • @SylvainGuintoli
      @SylvainGuintoli  Před 3 lety

      X axis is Distance, good for basic compare with big time difference. With Time the data would have to be shifted all the time as you said 👍🏻

  • @ChrisJohn_444
    @ChrisJohn_444 Před 3 lety +1

    That's a great educational tool. I also use racechrono pro, but how do you get the data to overlay on the video?

  • @bikerslow2598
    @bikerslow2598 Před 3 lety

    You make everyone look like they are on a sighting lap

  • @darkiee69
    @darkiee69 Před 3 lety

    *Guys on track* Man I'm going fast!
    *Sylvain* Make way, coming thru

  • @jamesrawlins3656
    @jamesrawlins3656 Před 3 lety +2

    Are you including the footage of you talking about the bike at the end in a separate video? I was in garage 35 and walked past the camera several times 😂

  • @sword-and-shield
    @sword-and-shield Před 2 lety

    Would love to see the dash view for if and when traction control is kicking in as your blazing through....thx for the vid

  • @fabiodeamicis92
    @fabiodeamicis92 Před 3 lety

    Great,congratulations for the video, always very exhaustive and professional, I really like the changes you made to the bike to adapt it to the track .... a curiosity....what are the differences in times between the TC On or Off??

    • @SylvainGuintoli
      @SylvainGuintoli  Před 3 lety +5

      In pure lap time it would be close with a professional rider onboard, but it’s much safer to ride with it ON. That safety net would also help 99% of riders go faster 👍🏻

  • @gobstocking
    @gobstocking Před 3 lety

    One of the best riders in the world vs the 'fast' group 😂😂😂😂😂 made them look silly, bless..... awesome series of videos this

  • @andreassakkas7234
    @andreassakkas7234 Před 3 lety +1

    What I would be interested to know if the difference in lap time from the road tyres to a superstock tyre like a Supercorsa SC2

  • @tobiasjacobsen_dk
    @tobiasjacobsen_dk Před 3 lety +1

    Everybody thinks they are pretty fast until the MotoGP rider shows up 😁💪

  • @Gambo916
    @Gambo916 Před 3 lety

    Great vid....but I'm intrigued as to why no mention of the differences between the Cup2's and the stock rubber.

  • @fightingcarrot
    @fightingcarrot Před 3 lety

    Hi Sylvain! It's me again :D all the way from Texas. Great video as always! I have a really random question for you, I currently have a 2020 R6 for trackdays, a KX65 minibike for kart "training" (though it's really just for fun), I was wondering - what do you think of a Moto3 bike for trackday riding (for learning and for fun, of course)? There are opportunities in the US to buy retired Moto3 bikes and after looking at them, I'm highly intrigued. 180lbs 48-50hp, sounds like a ton of fun.

  • @TheKungFuCrocodile
    @TheKungFuCrocodile Před 3 lety

    A reminder to us all mere mortals when we think we are at the limit.....only our own limits :-)

  • @zacpetersen893
    @zacpetersen893 Před 3 lety +1

    Loving the series, appreciate you doing them for us! Are you still running standard braking setup ? (eg pads/ fluid ?)

  • @alexlugo5647
    @alexlugo5647 Před 3 lety

    Is Suzuki thinking of going to WSBK or are you just having fun with the series? Love the videos!! 👍

  • @GMss101
    @GMss101 Před 3 lety

    That onboard is ridiculous 😂😂

  • @turkishexpress
    @turkishexpress Před 3 lety

    It looks like you're running the michelin power cup 2s. I just got a set to try out this weekend. Any advice?

  • @mattjohns7249
    @mattjohns7249 Před 3 lety

    Great video!! How is it you can do these times with the ABS and almost every review on the bike says how bad the ABS intrudes on the track?? Is it the way you apply the brakes, bike set up or a combination of both? I am really keen on the GSXR but am unsure with all the bad brake performance comments from tests and reviews. Cheers

    • @SylvainGuintoli
      @SylvainGuintoli  Před 3 lety +3

      Hi, I have no issue with the standard GSX-R1000R brakes, I can feel the ABS when riding hard on track but can still pull 1.5G deceleration so you can still brake hard! It’s mainly a difference in feel on the lever.
      PCR Performance just did an “ABS delete” on my GSX-R so will soon found out the difference on track 👍🏻😎

  • @robertkacala
    @robertkacala Před 3 lety

    What's the lap time difference between TC on and off? Can you feel when traction control reaches the limits?

  • @davidfalgout7304
    @davidfalgout7304 Před 3 lety

    I used to race in the 90's, so I can say great job there! Back in the day as I am sure now, it's all about money. I have a question please. So for 3 or 4 seconds those mods cost about $20,000 dollars?
    Of course sub'd and T-up

  • @gamedevsa
    @gamedevsa Před 2 lety

    I can't believe how much time he is gaining under braking and corner exit, just in sane.

  • @tammyforbes2101
    @tammyforbes2101 Před 3 lety

    I been doing the same thing, but for drag racing! I prefer the straight line! I’m a big person so never gonna be a good track/closed course rider, to heavy, to tall! I weight as much as the bike, but all this muscle helps in a drag race I can man handle and stay on a big powerful bike no problem, just can’t get around corners as hard as say Rosso could! It’s just simple math more weight=less traction, especially at full tilt! The extra weight might even help on launch! I can put pressure on the pegs and keep the front wheel down, while still making forward movement! I have a 2016 Suzuki GSX-S1000 it’s the naked more street version of the GSXR! We loose top end for low-mid end torque, which is what you want for drag racing! Your not loosing much power your just using it differently! Like the GSXR has a 42 tooth rear pulley our’s has a 44! But we only wind to 11.500rpm the GSXR winds up to 13.500rpm I think it is! We win the drag race but then the GSXR blows by us like we are tied to a stump! But I love my bike, it’s all I need it does exactly what I want it to do,and how I want it to do it! Only thing I’m changing now is 43 tooth rear pulley, as it’s geared to low for me! It’s has massive torque but runs out of gear so quick, feels like your wasting time shifting, when you should just be going! But I have turned the power up and Maid the bike 30lbs lighter! I have a short header and drag pipe, power commander 5 with auto tune, custom ECU flash by Detroit speed, pirreli Diablo Rosso corrso 2’s tires! Shorty adjustable levers! I took off the rear foot pegs and brackets! Changed valve stems to nice 90 degree metal ones! Installed an emergency kill switch for my wrist! Track makes you do that so if you come off they bike doesn’t keep running! It’s isn’t a dead 160mph bullet if I get knocked off 😳 let’s hope we never need that feature! 🥴

  • @neilsmith6461
    @neilsmith6461 Před 3 lety +1

    I only got overtaken once but it was Sylvain Guintoli honest, it was, on a moto gp bike

  • @scottljwalk24
    @scottljwalk24 Před 3 lety

    Hi sylvain would you ever look into doing a superstock race on this bike, thanks👍

  • @02Guffy
    @02Guffy Před 3 lety

    Are you running stock electronics or have you messed with the TC/Wheelie Control/etc.?

  • @AlAn-kw1bb
    @AlAn-kw1bb Před 3 lety

    Sylvain can you sneak out a set of carbon brakes from your Motogp testing days, it would be fascinating to see the benefit on this project from a guy that knows how to use them.