JHS SV Obsession - Creating a race-ready SV650 | The Inside Line S2 E5
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- čas přidán 31. 07. 2023
- In the latest episode of The Inside Line Chris Moss sits down with SV650 aficionado James Holland to discuss the history of getting the SV650 ready to race. Before it was even launched in 1999, James had plans for what could be done to make the V-twin powerplant into a middleweight track icon.
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James at JHS is a top guy ,the whole team there are superb . Would like to see more of James speaking about his time with the sv 650 , such a knowledgeable bloke. 44 teeth have him on alot and Mossy , great stuff , and the SV definitely deserves legendary status
I've just bought a bike online from JHS unseen but I know by watching 44 teeth and other channels the bike will be as described
Great to see James - missed him from recent 44Teeth videos, they're just not the same without his Top Tips
The SV650 is an undeniable icon. Just as much as James himself. I could listen to him for hours speaking about the SV and I would be just as engaged in the last minute as in the first. When someone says any synonym of motorbike a silhouette of the SV is what I imagine.
Two of the funniest guys in motorcycling being very mature.. amazing piece
The longer I watch this, the more I start to wonder if the SV is code for something 😂😂😂. So much passion from James.
James is the absolute guru when it comes to the SV 650 platform. A legend! Humble guy with a head full of secrets to ring the most out of this iconic bike. Loved the interaction between him and Mossy! Great interview!
Cheers from the US!
Also from the US here.
I remember when the SV 650 first came out, and I remembered what the internet was not back then. We take for granted how much information is so readily available these days. Mr. Holland's brain must be full of some hard earned knowledge.
I've listened to both of these gentlemen on 44Teeth.... as an American, this is the first time I've understood 100% of the conversation
Keep up the good work!
2 top blokes in their fields, always good to eavesdrop on a good conversation
I walked into a Suzuki dealership in ‘99, and I was looking for a sport style street bike with motocross handlebars. Wasn’t sure if anyone made one. And there was the ‘99 SV650. Bought it on the spot. It was exactly what I wanted. Loved it. Later sold it. Wish I wouldn’t have done that. But recently I bought 2003 SV1000s in good shape. Totally enjoying that engine. I’ll never sell that one.
What a legend, and such a humble guy! I can attest to the sv650s being reliable workhorses, I did 26,000 miles on my first gen, bike was on 40,000 miles when I snapped the chain (I did 20,000 hard miles on the chain, Numpty) and put a whole in the back of the engine, I have no reason to believe it wouldn't of gone on for another 40,000 miles. Sv650 cracking bike's. 👌
First seen James through the 44 teeth videos constantly fixing their choice of motorcycles,, some ultimate knowledge of Suzukis ,, great video thanks for posting this ☘️☘️☘️😃 from northern Ireland
I had an sv650 minitwin built by a couple of eedjuts back in 2012. Wish i had gone to James. I didnt know enough at that time to make the right choices. I still have it down the shed, although its not been started since 2017. I loved riding it for its raw character and sound. I remember a track day where Jamie Whitam was present and i noted him cranking his head around to see what bike was making those beautiful twin sounds. It was me. I always remember that. Wonder if i will ever get to ride it again?🤔
New bike looks fantastic. Love the little nod to Cagiva 500 air scoop. Great to hear James talking so passionately and knowledgeably about the project.
I missed that comment .. how far in?
@@Errol.C-nz it wasn’t mentioned, just my own assumption.
More of the JHS team please. Watched 44teeth just to see, an learn from there videos. .
The sv 650 is the best bike I've owned, thank you for this video 😀
Good to hear two people who know very, very well what they're on about. 44 Teeth neglects this, and is often too annoying.
Top Lads! No Bull !Thanks Lads. Great te see ye:
What a shame James didn’t put some of his phenomenal efforts in to the SV1000
What a great video.
Great video, super interesting too
I have a very heavily modified SV K3 and it is a beautiful bike. With good suspension and brakes fitted, the SV goes from being a good bike to ride to a great bike to ride all day. I have wondered about that big bore kit though...
How far can you go with the bore reliably?
@@io3204 it's not about the bore for displacement as much as what a wide bore allows you to do with the heads & valves for breathing .. it's pointless throwing bigger heavier pistons in.. if the displacement can't be allowed to breath at the rpm the cams, valves & ports are tuned to.. as James said with the TT pinning the throttle.. sprint engines are limited the same way.. a bigger wider bore changes the dynamics of combustion & piston/chamber constraints from the manufactured heads & valves (angles & chamber.. twin plugs etc)..
@@Errol.C-nz I'm sure that's true, yet you have to bore it. And I was just wondering, from a technical standpoint, what is considered reliable. Thx
@@Errol.C-nzyeah that’s what I thought 👀
@@io3204 reliable is .. making it to the end of the race.. or meet.. or season.. before it gives up .. 11k rpm is their race class limit (usually) .. the SV is already a very over square big bore for a 650 (consider piston rock in the bores, & head clearances .. cylinder dead space above the top ring CAN constitute up to 15% of a compressed cylinders capacity.. a good portion that's very retarded combustion mix contributes nothing to power).. bigger is ALWAYS heavier with everything, all things equal but lighter isn't always weaker (with pistons) when rpm's limits are being pushed .. look up Ltwtracer & his build videos 2 or 3yrs ago .. very similar to James's thinking .. & as James said theirs little room in casting material to push ports & valves sz's out for better breathing .. only option is very careful profiling & cam timings to get that "reliable" 95hp.. over that & life gets very short
I see James Holland.
I click play.
This is really interesting to me! I've ridden 2 SV650's and really found them both boring, bouncy, and quite flat. So seeing someone talk about them with so much passion is making me feel like I shouldn't judge them off of old dealer loaner bikes. I've ridden 62 bikes so far ranging from Harley's to ZZR1400 and ZH2 etc so a pretty wide set of experience to compare to. Perhaps I should try one again sometime, though a lot harder with one arm now! Looking at making a bolt-on clutch lever to let me test "normal" non adapted bikes etc.
Thanks for the video guys! Loved my GSXS 1000 before losing an arm on it hahaha :D
Dont understand what hes on about but just love listening to his accent
My SV makes 95hp with stock bore pistons (Who’s pistons?) stock Suzuki con rods, ported heads, Yoshimura stage 2 cam shafts, open fiberglass air box by AirTech & a Hindle exhaust with a modified shorty canister.
Wait!
On 93 octane pump fuel.
That's impressive. Is it just from better flow due to cams and exhaust? Is the limiter also set higher? Thx
What was your engines base line figure.. on your Dyno before you started.. as James said.. the std 650.. on their Dyno, makes 70hp.. that race engine.. on his Dyno.. gave a 50% 35rwhp increase.. reliably.. max your engine on your Dyno for a full minute TT style & see how it does.. on stock parts
Great interview, Curious as to what exhaust is on this example
👍
Suzuki really have cracked it with simple but great bikes - The SV and the DL are raved about by people who own them.
Here in NZ the DR650 (completely different bike) was the best selling machine over 500cc for years - still would have been if they hadn't brought in the bloody stupid ABS clause for import.
That wasn't what killed it off.. Suzuki could have easily fitted an abs to it.. cheaply & without affected their grandparenting emissions regs.. management atm just didn't want to carry on with the air cooled machine.. the 400 was seen by them as a better machines & reducing the model range across the board for Suzukis business bottom line was their focus.. no sentiments with business
James can be sensible, when he hasnt got the 44teeth crew in the workshop 😂🤣
Soon we will get an 750cc version that can be more inline with the r7
Suzuki call it SV800.. even though it's a SP800 (parallel follow the "fashion").. there's no bloody V in it.. dickheaded marketing men f¥€ked up again !
The first gen 650 Suzuki should have made a 1000 also with the same frame
They have...TL 1000 S
@@demetriechrysoulis7823 a much better frame.. just that radical f1 style rear damper & linkage setup that stuffed it.. it's a great engine that out performed the Honda & Ducati at the time.. was a phase of rapid change in engines atm
...and since Suzuki were obsessed with having a short wheelbase to match the 916 there wasn't much room left for a traditional spring and damper. I also read somewhere that the chain must have plenty of slack since it tightens as the swing arm pivots and effectively lengthens.
However I would still have one ( green with gold rims ) over an SP1.
Happy to stick with my sv650n for now , and probably faster on it than a 1000 on NZs bumpy winding roads. @@Errol.C-nz
Mossy + James, is this the 44 Teeth "C" channel?
Almost but without the tomfoolery bs!
Is that a Sv700 making 105hp or 650 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Wow! Nearly 25 minutes with James and no beer guzzling or diving into trash cans? Hmm 🤔 perhaps Al and Chris aren't the best influences......
James Holland missed greatly from 44 teeth episodes recently.
There's a lot of retrospective hype about a meh motorcycle of its time🫤
Btw it’s a 1999 SV650
Nope.. he only uses the early cases.. everything else is 2nd & 3rd gen.. the black later 2nd gen frames are still the best