"Influencer's" Dangerous Airplane Advice
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- čas přidán 25. 05. 2024
- Apparently being famous and rich doesn't mean you have common sense.
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Don't confuse being wealthy with being intelligent.
It's true. Some people with low IQ's are very wealthy.
Sometimes I almost feel like the inverse is true, considering how many people got rich due to their complete lack of social intelligence, common sense and basic understanding of the law...
Wealth is a GREAT insulator from the effects of stupidity or lack of common sense. They can just spend their way out of their dumbass decisions and make it someone else's problem. But most REAL wealthy people were born with the $ chromosome or get lucky with stupid ideas and bad decisions. A few REALLY earn it through hard work, but at least half of them would be eligible for a lifetime membership at Club Fed if we actually knew how they got there.
But i'm not saying they're dumber than the consumers and fetuses who fall for their scams either.
Having never been wealthy but still college educated, I'd much rather be wealthy and dumb than poor and smart.
there's literally nothing with a higher correlation though
Plane crash survivor here. I'm incredibly grateful I put my head down. Not only did it contribute to the "survivor" part of being a plane crash survivor, but it also helped shield my 15-month-old daughter during impact. She was traveling in my lap. She, too survived. Listen to your pilot and crew.
I'm no plane crash survivor, but I was in a car crash once, where I was in the backseat with no seat belt on. I knew we were going to crash and did the "brace for impact" thing instinctually... I'm pretty sure it saved me from being much was off, instead of my body crashing into the seat inferno of me it just pushed up against it
Oh! Wow😮
I hope you heal from that tragic event.
🧢
What airline was it
Really! Airline, flight number, date?
As a heavy maintenance mechanic, I can say that the O2 gen have an expiration date of either 10, 15 or 20 depending on the models and we replace them 25 months before the expiration date. The mask themselves also have their own exp. date. The gens are in fact, not filled with oxygen but work in a fashion similar to a grenade, you pull on the mask to put it on which will pull on a pin that once remove activate the chemical reaction creating oxygen (also the generator itself becomes really hot so dont try to touch it). The generators are rated to produce the O2 for about 12-15min (more than enough time for the plane to go down in altitude to a point where you can breath normally) but out of the hundred+ that I have activated they all seem to last somewhere between 20 to 30 min
A&P and M2 AME, you're right brother, but explaining these things to the layman is an utter waste of time.
We might as well be talking in some unknown language 😅
Keep em flying.
As a Pilot myself I appreciate you saying this brother. Keep up the great work with keeping us all safe out there!
As an engineer safety critical systems are always designed with a healthy safety margin. If you have to guarantee that every unit is able to generate at least 12 minutes of usable oxygen you have to take into account that some will perform a bit worse than the mean. It seems like they used a safety margin of double the requirement to guarantee that even the worst performing unit is comfortably above the limit.
I was on a flight when the oxygen masks came down suddenly. Scary moment as we had no idea why this had happened. We were told to put them on and stow the tray tables, I thought it must be serious if they want us to throw food and drink on the floor. Then the engines went quiet, adding to the scary part of this and then the real clincher, totally ruining the integrity of my underpants, the plane started a very steep dive. I still can't believe how quiet everyone was, people just sat quietly with their masks on and clinching their armrests, tightly.
Although it seemed like an age, a few minutes later the engine sound came back up and the aircraft levelled off. We landed at the next available airport and as we got off the plane we were told that the aircraft had lost pressurisation and was not able to continue. We were transferred onto another flight a few hours later.
Scary but, as it turns out, never actually in any danger.
When pressurization is lost, one of the immediate goals is to get to a level with breathable air. Probably why the dive happened.
@@rileyflack8010 I know that now but not when it happened. It would have been better for everyone if they had told us what was happening so that we weren't all frightened until the plane actually touched down. To be honest though, the 12 hours in Madrid airport, waiting for a replacement aircraft, was a worse ordeal 🤔
Man...the silence sounds scarier than everyone screaming.
The engines keep the plane pressurized. When the engine(s) go quiet, then the cabin loses pressure. Sounds like they were able to get the engines restarted thankfully!
It was something else that caused pressure loss. The engines went quiet because they were throttled back to idle. But I get your point, had we lost all the engines then I guess we'd have had a similar scare, only that would have most likely have had a worse outcome 🙄
FOUR STRIPES! Congratulations Kelsey!!! What a journey it's been with you over the years!
Oh wow I just noticed this thanks to your comment and yes I agree what an awesome achievement for Kelsey!
@@fax565 Last week there were "only" 3! Santa visited Kelsey earlier this year! Congrats Kelsey!
Wow! Congratulations Kelsey!
Just noticed this too. Congrats Cap'n Kelsey.
Yay I noticed 4 stripes too. Congrats!
Influencers should be held accountable for misinformation. Especially when it can kill people. It’s completely reckless and negligent.
I agree. It's important that we all try to improve the critical thinking skills of citizens, but we can't rely on that, so it's critical that examples of widespread nonsense are able to face consequences that exceed the benefit 'from the views'
Agree. There are so many that perpetuate misinformation.
Hey Brie! Ask your husband about the constitution he defends, maybe that’ll clear some things up for you!
@@flankman9385As if a piece of paper written by a group of dudes hundreds of years ago has any relevance in today's society. Give me a break.
That is irrelevant. It is what you have now and if you don't like it there are ways of amending it.@@OreoHT
So awesome to see that extra bar on yoir shoulders CAPTAIN !!!! That is so amazing man, I hope we get a video about you getting such a great promotion!!!
Man, I have horrific anxiety and I've seen this woman before. Some of the stuff she's said has put me off flying but I'm so glad I found this channel. Trust a pilot so so very much more than a flight attendant, every time. I'll be so much happier with flying after watching some of these
It's not so much Pilot vs Flight Attendant so much as professional vs idiot. There's a lot of training that goes into being an FA since, as stated by the pilot here, they are the ones in charge of cabin safety. They are in charge of dealing with passenger emergencies (health risks), and crash/evacuation procedures. Something tells me the "FA" influencer might just be someone who isn't actually an FA, or wasn't one long enough to really understand how aviation works.
@airplanenut89 unfortunately, she is an actual flight attendant but she also apparently isn't too bright.
How can she be a legit flight attendant? I would think her company would have something to say about an employee spreading lies about the airline industry.
I'm glad you're starting to get past flight anxiety! It used to be almost debilitating for me, but I had to fly a lot anyway. Sitting by the wing and watching the parts move actually helped me a lot! Plus learning more about how planes work, what the pilots do, and stuff like that. This channel helped a lot too! Kelsey's really good at explaining! Now I kinda like flying, instead of having panic attacks just thinking about being IN a plane lol
So why would you believe that nonsense to begin with? You believe everything you read on the internet?
"influencers" are the worst byproduct of this narcissistic society that we inhabit and that term is something that should've never been a part of our lexicon. Thank goodness you are the voice of reason. Keep up the great work.
I couldn't have said it better myself. The fact that being an 'Influencer' is an actual way to make a living is a sad state of affairs.
@@VKZ24nothing new man the Roman’s had shit dips like this too. Right on towards their demise. It’s about that time eh… for a uh reset. Except this isn’t the movies and anarchy cannot be controlled chaos envelopes all around it.
@@VKZ24the Roman’s had people like this too this is nothing new man. These influencers influenced Rome right on towards their demise. It’s about that time eh…. For a rest don’t you say. Expect this isn’t the movies and anarchy cannot be controlled. Chaos envelopes everything around it.
The fact that influencers get rewarded insane amounts of money for essentially being clowns is absurd.
Think of all the hours, pain, sweat and tears people put in day in day out to change the world and get paid peanuts, this is the true failure of society.
Anyone with a degree or professional qualification, who contributes to society in any positive and impactful way should be on a better wage than a dumbass influencer, who is offering very little to society.
Horrendous, any moron can buy a microphone and talk dogshit, zero quality control.
loved that "random maintenance guy". Those people are well trained professionals.
And they're on the hook if they okay something that is an issue.
Its just somebody talking about something she has zero qualifications in
well she is techically right XD They are random people, since every airport has a different one and no chance the pilots knows them all. They are indeed random "well trained professionals" maintenance guys.
Outright disrespectful to maintenance tbh
Craigslist? American Airlines here. You got sb to fix a slide? Plumber? Good enough, send him over to JFK.
As an A&P Mechanic (aircraft & power plant) and those oxygen masks are checked regularly, and the oxygen tanks are replaced regularly. This woman didn't talk to a real maintenance person. The masks are only their to get you to a breathing altitude. She'd be terrified if she saw an MEL (minimum equipment list). Planes fly with broken things daily.
Considering the sheer number of parts, that makes sense.
the plane fire in Haneda Japan shows us that you can evacuate 380 people with one broken slide. Everything could be in perfect condition and still have defect parts during an emergency but what's more important is having a crew that stays calm and clearheaded in those situations
Having seen a flight attendant freak out when a flight I was on had to go back to the airport after takeoff because a light indicated that a baggage door might be open, I sure agree. I wasn't too anxious until she answered a passenger's little joke with "No! No this doesn't happen all the time!" in a shaky voice. You don't want to see an F/A seem scared! That passenger looked at me from across the aisle, and we shared looks of "UH OH." We were ok, but I hope she found a different career. There was a pile of luggage on the apron where it meets the taxiway, btw.
Congratulations on the seat swap, Kelsey. You've worked hard to reach this point, so you definitely deserve it.
I totally missed the extra stripe on our guy!
@@peterhospodar7876 I noticed something different on this video, and it hit me -- Kelsey has four stripes now! Congratulations, Captain Kelsey.
I am a day late and 3/4 way through, looked over at vid (was just listening) and saw that! Grats indeed.
Has he made any vlog talking about how one gets the next stripe or did I miss it?
Wow Kelsey!! I haven’t popped in these days but look at that, those stripes!! Congratulations!!! 🥳 👏
Good job, tiger!
That 4th stripe looks majestic on your shoulders brotha!!
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been following you for awhile but apparently never subscribed, but seeing your "i don't care" response at the end officially sold me.
I’ve noticed that people who work in an industry seem to think they’re experts on every part of that industry
It’s like those “military advisors” that served as a cook 20 years ago but “they were in the military so they must know a lot”
Yhea, I can't belive how many stupid stuff I heard about weapons or technology in the Army.
Not to mention, if that position was designed to kill you, that could be proved and if it was proved, that would be multiple lawsuits FAR, FAR bigger than anything we have seen. Multiple airlines would be sued into oblivion and multiple people responsible for those policies would go to jail. The airlines would be risking far more with a position designed to kill you.
EXACTLY
in the US in the modern day this kind of isn't true. These things are factored in to cost assessments and most likely the airlines would face a penalty that is less than the money they saved from doing the thing, and nobody in any position of real power would spend a day in jail.
However, the fact that it hasn't actually been claimed by anyone of any repute (not just government/media-anointed "experts", but really ANYONE with a reputation in biology or crash investigation) let alone proven in the decades of commercial air travel and that it just popped up as some dumbass aspect of the US political culture war a few years ago really tells me all I need to know about it's veracity.
@Person01234 I actually remember this theory from Mythbusters. They tested different positions and found the crash position is the safest for you by far. About the only truth to the myth was that a wrongful death suit is cheaper than the cost of a crash injury.
This isn't true if anyone can reasonably prove that this is the worst advice or really bad advice that person or entity would make an insane amount of money@@Person01234
Yes, it would be criminal and hundreds if not thousands would go to jail. It’s situations like this where I wonder if platforms like CZcams do us a disservice by amplifying the voices of extremely uneducated people.
As an actual aviation maintenance tech, that second tiktok really made me angry. What a huge pack of lies. We check EVERYTHING on that plane at set intervals determined by the FAA and each manufacturer/buyer (airline/cargo company/etc). The emergency oxygen system has expiration dates, as does every piece of emergency equipment. Maintenance swaps them out for new if one expires. Yes. We keep track. And deferrals are only allowed for certain items, and many have restrictions set in, which are all determined for safety reasons. These "influencers" really annoy me how dangerous their misinformation can be.
Think she’s watched too many episodes of Aircrash Investigation. Everyone’s an expert these days. There’s no way a LAME would sign off on a defect and let an aircraft fly. Well not in my country or yours either. Social media can be very dangerous. Keep up your good work of making the skies safer
Does she fly for Air Koryo?
All those influencers are just watching each others TikTok's and trying to get views without actually knowing a thing. They are so annoying.
ValuJet Flight 592 even had a fire caused by expired oxygen generators in their cargo bay in 1996 so I believe now there are restrictions on transporting those. So expiries of those have existed at least that long.
@@KH-rc7tl well, those, who watched Aircrash investigations, know that crashes almost never happened for the same reason because, almost, after every crash there are changes to procedures, or even aircraft design aimed at preventing that particular scenario from happening again. Unless it is Boeing with friends in the FAA...
I have zero experience professional with airplanes nor medical field. However, bracing yourself is COMMON SENSE and a NATURAL RESPONSE to danger/impact. You brace for impact to protect your most important organs and protect your head. One thing I'd note is that people might hold the back of their neck while bracing but considering the impact would most likely be to your skull it also makes sense for you to protect the most likely to impact the seat in front of you.
Yes! It's a position some of us know well from tornado drills. I assume these people saying otherwise aren't from tornado areas.
I have so much respect for the pilots, cabin crew and all the people in the maintenance and cleaning departments
Congratulations Kelsey on becoming a Captain. That’s just a wonderful achievement continue educating us✈️
Congratulations on the four stripes, Kelsey! I applaud you for being able to watch this “influencer” crap without going crazy.
I just spotted the four bars. Congratulations 🎊
Yea, me too, just noticed your epaulette and they are looking sharp..... Congrats...!
Wow! I just noticed that. Congratulations. You can buy me a beer now.
Hmmm... something looks different about Kelsey today... then I noticed what. Congratulations!
Oh my.... I thought something was off on the uniform but I wasn't paying enough attention until now. You're absolutely right! Kelsey is a captain now!! :) CONGRATZ Kelsey!!!!
This kinda need a follow up in light of recent air accidents.
Thanks for the excellent information and setting the record straight! Also, I really enjoyed your description and explanation of everything. The video was really concise and easy to watch and understand.
The flight attendant “Sierra Mist” was fired years ago for her inappropriate social media. I would take anything she says with a grain of salt. She is a popular topic on flight attendant discussion boards
Hahaha. What an idiot. So basically, she has no flight attendant experience.
Wasn’t she the til tok airline attendant lady that also had a of. I remember one on tic tok talking about all the attendants and pilots she’s screwed. Incredibly trashy tbh
Yeah. She has/had an only fans. She would hint at it in stories she would tell about being inappropriate with CO workers. Saying to go to that page to get the whole story. No wonder she had so many followers 🙄
Yes, she's also the one who made videos updating everyone about her b*tt plug stuck in the b*tt for couple of days.. @@FalloutGenius1
Yes just like the previous comment not to confuse money with brains we should not confuse ex flight attendants seeking publicity with being honest and truthful. Sadly sensationalism is what she's selling and that's a long way from the truth
I just noticed you have four stripes now. Congratulations for your promotion! My niece was also just promoted to captain, and she’s the 4th female captain in the airline. A pride in our family.
Me too! Congrats to Kelsey on the upgrade!
Thats awesome!
Yes just noticed that!
Congratulations to your niece! She’s paving the way for so many 😊
That's awesome, congratulations to her too!
Thanks, this is the first video of yours I've seen, and thanks for sharing all these details and nuances. Quite enlightening. Appreciate it brother.
Love this video! I was on a United flight that kept getting called back to the gate due to a seatbelt malfunction in the pilot’s cabin. They brought us back twice and a we were delayed an hour and stuck on the plane but they were able to fix the issue within that time and the flight went smoothly. Sometimes things happen and they can get them fixed. The flight attendants were very nice about everything and made sure we were in good spirits by the time the plane finally took off.
Congratulations Captain Kelsey Hughes on your first video with the 4th stripe. You did not say it, but we sure noticed it between this and last week. Well deserved. You teach, inspire and share your love of flying in a really down to earth manner. Blue side and thumbs up!
My wife noticed it in a few seconds of the video starting. Came here and glad you posted it already.
Hah, I knew something was different! Well done Kelsey and continued success!
Awesome!!!😊
I was about to write the exact same thing
Congratulations Kelsey!!
Seeing that you are now a captain really caught me off guard! I even looked back at your other videos to make sure I didn’t miss any info on that. What a great surprise! Congratulations Captain!
SAME!!
I agree -- did the double-take myself while listening to him when I looked at his shoulder bars. Then wondered “when did I miss THAT video?. 😅
Captains have to have moustaches though, wear blue ties, and have a thick parted 1970's hairstyle... the new position requires some style changes :)
Yeah I had to count three times to make sure cheers…and congrats to captain Kelsey…
@@PRH123😂
Thank you, thank you for bringing up Common Sense - I've been on a few flights, including business, personal travel and a prop flight from Northern CA to Japan (we made stops ;-) and everything you say makes sense - if one chooses to listen.
Kelsey a captain now!! Nice work man. Been subscribed since near the beginning!!
I trust Captain Kelsey (Congratulations!) over some silly 'influencers' every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
Hardest thing about watching this video is peeling my eyes off the roof of my head from rolling them so much...jeez.
Keep calling 'em out, Captain! Keep the blue side up!❤❤
As a retired major airline pilot, it is nice to hear someone on the internet actually say things that are correct. Good on you
As a retired airline pilot, you should have learned by now the real reason!!! It’s to do with spinal compression! Hahah. Hilarious!
Yep. Anyone who takes time & trouble to debunk BS is doing a good thing.
As a retired airline pilot myself I'm in full agreement with you. The 💩 they think we're up to in all the conspiracy theories are ridiculous and past annoying.
as a random Internet person.. yea same lol. damn these influencers are dumb. do they manage to put their socks on correctly in the morning? wait.. don't answer that...
That is Matt rife , a horrible guy, who says whatever he says is just stand up comedy .
Great example of the value of staying in your lane
Kelsey, very well said! I teacher middle school, and there is nothing more important than teaching students to be ethical and accurate. Expertise is highly respected in my books. Love your videos. Next time you’re in Winnipeg, I’ll show you the sites!! Haha.
My kids were scared on a flight we were on because it had a little bit of turbulence. I told them that the pilots have just as much interest in living as you do so they'll fly the plane safely.
You're an amazing mom Fionia
As an adult who is still made a little uncomfortable by turbulence my favorite self soothe is to remind myself that turbulence is just like bumps in the road, that may help too if you fly again soon :)
I always look at the cabin staff, if they are calm there is no reason for me to worry, they go through this every day on the job they know better than me
@@momain5483it is a pretty good analogy. Basically that's what it is but of course transferred into aerodynamics
@@momain5483I was afraid to fly most of my life (it was totally irrational - so glad I’m over it) and used to tell myself the same thing re: turbulence. That’s exactly what it is, after all 😊
Congratulations Captain Kelsey! Thank you for defending truth in the face of such relentless stupidity. These awful people profit by harming society and there seems no way to stop it.
I didn't even catch that. Did he announce that somewhere?
@@oldRighty1 humility. ...and shoulder board stripes. 😊
It’s a comedian and guy who has pizza tasting videos go viral. Why would you listen to them like they are God . Think for yourself sheepy
There is one way to stop it. Never watch their videos!
Congrats captain! Another great video!
Avionics technician here. I'm responsible for the electrical, computer and communication systems on planes. Not sure what part of 14 CFR governs the oxygen mask deployment on airliners but: Every plane has an interval at which certain inspections are *required* to be performed. That's what the alphabetical checks are. C check is every 2 years or so, A check is every 400-600 flight hours, etc. At regular intervals the oxygen mask deployment system gets tested. We make sure they manually deploy via the control in the cockpit and also automatically by connecting a pneumatic test set to the planes pitot/static sensors to simulate a certain altitude at which the masks are observed to deploy or not deploy. Where I work it's mandatory that our quality control inspector is present when this test is performed because it's safety critical. If they don't deploy the problem is either fixed or the jet isn't allowed to leave until it's corrected. We also verify oxygen flow rate and that the masks themselves aren't broken. Like little plastic pieces and what not.
Wall of text I know. Point being, she is completely wrong. Just about any and everything you can imagine and more is regularly inspected/tested for proper working condition. ESPECIALLY anything to do with flight safety or emergency systems.
Congratulations on your upgrade. This is the first video I’ve watched since you became a captain!!!🎉
Congratulations Kelsey on your Captain promotion!
YES!
Mainntenance here:
The oxygen masks and "PSU" (passenger service units) get looked over every C-check.
The masks get their oxygen from "oxygen generators" or "candles" that get activated when you give a strong jerk to the strings that deploy with the masks.
Typical arrangement is 3 masks (seats) per candle.
The candles have a shelf life. They get recycled or otherwise disposed regularly.
Thank you. I was wondering about that as a student pilot.
and we know what happens when they aren’t recycled correctly. ValuJet 592. It was taboo to talk about at my company
Yeah, everything she says is crap. I doubt she's even real crew anywhere.
@@jorgecalero6325she does sex flights. Private sex flights. She’s an OF flight attendant on private planes and I wish I didn’t know this. I think she invented this industry.
@@jorgecalero6325 can't really "everything" because they just had the plane have it's door blown off after having "broken" depressurization alarm signed off for 3 flights.
If a slide is broken some aircraft are still useable, not just on a ferry flight but even with passengers, however there are serious restrictions on how many passengers can board the flight. This is to ensure if there was an emergency evacuation all passengers would be able to exit the plane in the required 90 seconds or less.
Kelsey great video, lots of commonsense info . People think because they are rich, good looking, a actor, or a sport star or even a politicians ( what ever ) that me the public must believe every thing they say no matter how dumb it sounds And nearly every time they are wrong and have no facts or logic to show for there odd statments or ideas. Keep the videos coming I realy look forward to them.
Congrats on the upgrade. I'm an Emirates Captain and remember very clearly how great it felt when the check pilot handed me my new shoulder boards...one of the biggest days in any commercial pilot's life. Well done.
What plane do you fly 777? Or a380
Emirates operates more than just those 2 like a340 and a330@@OctaviusHiggins
@@JacksVictorianTrainsnot anymore
Congrats Kelsey 👏🏻
@@JacksVictorianTrains They've been retired since 2015.
Congratulations Capt Kelsey. So happy to see that you have achieved what is obviously a tremendous goal. Well done young man!
Just noticed that! Great job Kelsey!
Yes, congratulations, Captain!
Bravo, captain!
Bravo zulu captain 7-4 striped!
I missed that fourth bar until I saw your comment. Congrats to Cap'n Kelsey.
Wow, my family was in a plane crash recently. We all followed the flight attendants' instructions, but my brother kept yelling at everyone about insurance and the "right way" to do it. Thankfully, the landing wasn't too rough, but my brother's legs, jaw, and skull were shattered on impact, even though no one else on the flight was injured except for a woman sitting next to him who followed his instruction.. Now, he's braindead and she died three days later in the hospital having lost three limbs, her jaw and was mostly blind. It was a really surreal and tragic experience. The lady was conscious and trying to scream "Why did you tell me to do that"
Also why military transport planes (with real seats and not cargo nets) are configured with the seats facing the back of the plane. The seat absorbs the stress and distributes it over almost your whole body instead of just at your hips. The back of the seat also becomes a shield as the plane slides forward, disintegrating as it goes.
Let me just say, I am SOOO bloody tired of stupid people becoming famous, instead of be pointed at and laughed off the platform.
Thanks for setting that stupidity straight, Kelsey.
We used to gatekeep publishing. We lost out on a LOT of great publication that just never made it past the gatekeepers even though they were worthy (maybe even more worthy than most published material).
BUT we also gatekept 99% of the idiots out too.
Hindsight is showing us that was probably better.
Can't really go back now though.
Damn, these losers should be held accountable for misinformation.
Stupid people get famous because they have lots of stupid followers, very sadly, in millions. The people who laugh at them are miniscule, just like us. Gen Z could have had so much potential, but it will just go wasted in making Tik Toks and Instagram "content".
Content has no value @@BhaaskarDesai
@@pilsplease7561 Yes. Which is why I used that word sarcastically. :P
Congrats on your promotion to Captain! Thank you for all you do to help us non-pilots understand and be comfortable flying,
Just noticed 4 stripes on the epaulets and came searching for the comments. Sweet!
Yup I saw that too! Congrats on the promotion!!
Great job Kelsey! You’re really an inspiration to me (and others I’m sure) as an aspiring pilot. I love your videos, keep it up
Yes, I just noticed it, too. Congrats Kelsey.
It's about time! Jeez
Not only does having the seat in the upright position give the person behind you more room to escape in an emergency (especially if it's a tall or obese person behind you), but it's also harder for you to get up in a reclined position during an emergency (especially in a compact space with seats on both sides), and much easier for you to inadvertently slide out of your seat on the force of impact when in a reclined position (rather than being restrained by the ninety-degree angle of the back of the seat and seatbelt in the upright position).
Actually many airliners today do carry oxygen tanks for passenger emergency O2.
It's a mix out there now - some tamks, some chemical canisters, but the trend is more toward tanks instead of canisters.
Either will do the job perfectly well - it's mostly a question of maintenance costs.
Mythbusters tested this on S3/E13. They did find that commercial aviation related life insurance payouts tend to be cheaper than life long disability payouts. Despite this, they also found that the brace position where you lean forward with your arms on the seat in front of you tends to be much more safe than not bracing.
Did their calculations include the loss of stock price attributed to deaths on an airplane?
@@nicolasadams835yeah this is a very good point too. If an accident happens and the media even slightly thinks that the deaths may have to do with the brace position the airlane stock is gonna hit the ground faster than the crashed plane
Ah! The goog old Mithbusters! Today they don’t do anything like that anymore! I miss them.
@@nicolasadams835 Conspiracy much? The fact is the brace position is safer. WTF would you need to factor in stock prices? That's just a stupid comment.
The brace position comes from the FAA not the airline or insurance company. It has nothing to do with the financial outcome of a crash.
Kelsey, CONGRATS ON BECOMING A CAPTAIN! We have waited for this moment forever. I hope nothing but a bright future ahead of you.
He was a Captain- Four Stripes makes him Trainer of Captains! still, a great achievement !
@@seashepherds4959incorrect, 3 is first officer, 4 is captain.
What is 2 stripes
@@ablecdn15652nd officer.
@@ablecdn1565 second officer, but that role is only in some countries
The MythBusters did a show on the brace position, and found that the least damage was made to the test crash dummy when in the brace position
Sheogorath give us sanity! Kudos to you for sitting through that.
I'd add that the brace position reduces play, in your spine. This, in turn, reduces the effect of jerk on your spine when the change in acceleration maxes out...and that's a lot safer for your spine than flopping forward and snapping your neck when you faceplant the seatback in front of you.
Also, when the hostess says to wear the seatbelt "low and tight" that's really important in the event of an impact because sufficient play in the seatbelt will break your hips and nobody's going to carry you out of the path of a creeping fuel fire if you can't walk - not when everyone's making sure they don't burn to death themselves.
One other thing; water ditching. If you're by an emergency exit, never take your seatbelt off until after the emergency door is open because the only brace you have to get that door open is the seatbelt and the seat. That's it. Pushing against the door only propels you back from the door in the water so you're not getting that door open without your seatbelt fastened. And don't waste your air and stamina on the door before pressure equalisation (inside and out) unless instructed otherwise (e.g. because one of the crew knows the water's not up to the level of the door yet).
Some airlines are dodgy, just like some companies are dodgy, and it shows in the statistics; specifically the number of annual fatalities per capita. Avoid the airlines which get people killed more often and this will improve your flight safety as a passenger. Workplace safety is no different. If you see a lot of lost time incidents, and you plan to keep all your fingers and toes, go work for the competition. Statistically, it's healthier.
Sheogorath. Now, there's a name I haven't heard in a long time. This Breton follows the path of Mara. Yours was a very well thought out post. As an RN of 28 yrs, the only thing I would add, is that keeping the seatbelt low prevents injuries to the internal organs, and keeping the head low prevents contrecoup brain injuries (which occur when the head is propelled forward, then strikes something hard). If they brace, it lowers the risk. I shall follow your advice. I do like to keep all of my limbs intact. It's not easy. Some of my enemies have curves swords. Curved swords.
A long time ago, my husband was on a flight and the captain refused to take off. It was a small plane, so he came into the cabin and apologized for the delay. He said it was going to be a while because of the paperwork, that it was something easy enough to fix, but he will not fly until it will be taken care of. Safe to say passengers (my husband included) where happy to wait. So, yes, if the captain feels that is not safe, they just don't fly. BTW, congrats on your promotion.
This has happened at least three times in my experience. She’s nuts.
Light aircraft twin prop qualified pilot here I hear you never decided not to fly but have rejected a take off before V1 twice, both times was gut instinct ,out of both of those times one saved me and a few other people. The first turned out the failure was like an engine light in a car , thats fine to still keep driving in an aircraft their is no tolerance nor second guessing .
It is actually a culture that the aviation industry has worked hard at to deliberately create. In the bad old days, pilots might have felt pressured to fly anyway. These days, pilots are empowered to say no without any pushback from their employer.
I once flew from Dulles International to Harrisonberg, VA in a small twin prop plane. There were thunderstorms in the area and the captain came into the waiting area to tell us he didn’t want take off until the weather cleared. My fellow passengers were all griping but I thanked the captain for his care.
Rule of thumb: don’t listen to someone who hasn’t extensively studied or experienced a subject matter, or wouldn’t stand in front of their bosses or customers and say the same thing. Instant gratification through social media has replaced common sense for so many… those talking and those listening.
Even someone paid to train me doesn't mean they are competent. One can usually tell when specific questions get s asked - A competent person generally is happy to answer - share their knowledge. The concept of influencer is something that goes over my head. Some un-vetted person blabbing for views is not a reliable source.
But the pilots and flight attendants haven't studied the subject matter of crash survival. They're just telling you what they're required to tell you.
People like to watch channels like this and think being a pilot qualifies what is being said, but they're often talking about things that have nothing to do with the pilot.
I'm not saying they don't know what they're talking about but being a pilot doesn't mean they would know.
Lots of instructors I've had can tell you what they learned, but have no clue if something is true or not, but will argue with people who've actually tried things and found the explanation to be wrong. A lot know what airspeed to fly on approach and the correct attitude and it works. But they wouldn't be able to work out how to do things differently. They just do what they were taught and nothing else.
Be careful thinking pilots are experts, especially be suspicious of those that act as if they are.
Remember when all of those “experts” said the jab would “stop the spread”? Or how about the 50 “experts” who swore the laptop was “disinformation” 😂
I did see them bust the brace for impact position on mythbusters. Thank you for adding more to it!
Oxygen is not flammable. It's an oxidizer, and basically supercharges an existing fire.
i think these "influencers" should be held liable for spreading this kind of very dangerous false information
They should be loudly and publicly ridiculed and refuted, not by government choking out free speech. It would not end with stopping stupidity. Use free speech to do as this pilot here is doing, pointing out how wrong the misinformed are. It is not illegal to be wrong or to be a sphincter, and should not be, but it is not illegal to point out when someone is being wrong.
@@michaeljarvis5489not by the government, held liable by the platforms they spread bullshit on
Court system too jank to do that
@@michaeljarvis5489its just that sometimes audience based scoring depends greatly on audience pool. Which i doubt is smart enough if they look at this kind of show.
I think the responsibility should be on the creator to fact check everything.. theres another option like forming 3rd party audit but it most likely wont outpace content creation
Liable of what injury? There has to be some type of damage done for liability.
Kelsey noticed that 4th stripe while you were talking. Congratulations Captain! Well done!
Also thank you for putting these PSA's out there. For those other than us in the industry, people need to hear reality and feel safe to enjoy the best way to travel.
Same!
Had to double-check that I didn't miss a video with that 4th stripe showing up. Congrats!
I didn't notice that until I read your comment! Congratulations, Kelsy!
Omg! I didn’t initially notice! You’re right!
Congrats, Kelsey!
I literally noticed 5 minutes in lol. I think that it’s incredible that you have achieved that milestone! I think it’s even more incredible that you didn’t “have” to say anything about it. I admire that.
This video was so full of important information. Thank you captain for making it !
Thank you for all you do keeping us informed. Couldn’t agree more.
You made captain! Congratulations Kelsey! As for these "Influencers", They play on peoples fears to make money. It amazes me that people believe them, but they do... Keep up the great videos Capt Kelsey!
Even sadder is people idolizing the so called "Influencer" that could care less about their audience after they get the "click"
Yep, we always had stupid people but now the stupid people have podcasts and have been told they know better than experts.
@@moosevision8113 That's the TRUTH. They sure don't want to hear that.
I just noticed that.
When they give bad safety information, how do they keep from getting sued?
I worked for my county medical examiners office, I assisted investigation and removed many 10's of thousands of dead bodies...
I saw many things including plane crashes, and a few very strange things. But I can assure you that spines can not shoot through someones head.
I understand that spines absorb impact better vertically not horizontally hence the brace position.
I've never been on a plane & I know more than her about aviation just from watching Mentour Pilot. They have redundancies for EVERYTHING - even redundancies have redundancies. I actually facepalmed when she said "12 minutes of oxygen," even I know it doesn't take 12 mins for an emergency descent to a breathable level. The on-screen explanation of the O2 tanks was fascinating, so simple yet so clever.
I remember when you had like 9k subs. It’s cool to see the growth
Congratulations *CAPTAIN* Kelsey! You say nothing about it, because you are modest as ever, a bright light of intelligence, common sense and font of information in this vast internet landscape. All the best to you sir 👏👍✈️
Wow, didn't notice that until I saw your comment. Awesome.
So modest. Love it
I thought something is different, but it didnt compute 😅
Ok so the fourth stripe is new! Cool
I was seeing that 4rth bar so cool for him
Congrats Capt Left chair! Seriously, congratulations on your upgrade. I decided to go the private pilot route and considered commercial flying but my career was already set for Bio Medical Engineering. I loved what I do. Now retired but still flying.
Close friend's son is in crash investigation (trains not aircraft.) He maintains - and I agree from direct experience - that one of the major causes of accidental death is "Wha...? Wha...?"
In addition to every other notice and warning, he insists that every mode of transport should have notices saying "Wake UP! And pay f**king ATTENTION !"
I was actually involved in a bus crash and fire in Europe many years ago. To be brutally honest, most of my fellow passengers had my footprints across them before they even woke up to the idea that they might be at risk. I was among the first off that bus - having grabbed the first-aid box - and I make no apologies. Couple of us dragged off an unconscious driver and hysterical courier, while a third did his best with the small fire-extinguisher. German services arrived in what seemed an impossibly short time. A few burns, no fatalities.
But even as we were all safely sat around on the roadside grass, some passengers were still "Wha...? Wha...? Wha's going on?"
If the front of the plane hits an object, you will be thrust forward then rebound backward so crouching with your arms around your head and your head in your lap might minimize damage to your face and spine (as well as minimizing whiplash), and when you rebound from impact, your upper body will most likely be restrained by your upright seat (instead of being catapulted out of your 'recling bed').
Just noticed you've been promoted, Kelsey! Congratulations on that, Captain! 🎉
So much misinformation being taken apart, love it!
I damn near lose what little faith I have left in humanity when I think about how many ignorant buffoons pay attention to “influencers”. No one should pay attention to them. They should be ignored.
Not only ignored, but also - in case someone copied their dumb ideas - sued for endangering others.
Social media is destroying the US and the rest of the world for that matter.
influencer means advertiser.
Most of the people who pay attention to them are kids and teens. People who can't and don't know any better. Adults do it too but this is a kid thing mainly
Isn't this literally a video from an influencer pilot tho? I feel like its just like everything else, bad influencers should be ignored, but channels like 74 Gear and Blancolirio are incredible for education, but they are still influencers
Hey Kelsey! Congratulations on your new stripe! 😊
Oh, I just noticed that you have your fourth stripe! Congratulations! Of course I only know you through your channel, but you come across as a very competent and professional pilot. I’m sure you’ll have a long and successful career in aviation.
Congratulation, Kelsey, on your promotion. If the content of your CZcams channel is any indication of your dedication to the aviation industry, you certainly earned that promotion. Again, congratulations.
If the content of his CZcams channel is any indication of his dedication to the aviation industry, he has fake log books and cheats on every exam LOL what a clickbait punk LOL
Hah. Just noticed he had a new stripe. Didn't see it until your comment.
Most people in the US do exactly that.
Kelsey, when were you promoted?
Lol, was bout to make the exact same comment when I noticed the four stripes. Congrats, Kelsey, well deserved, I'm sure 🙂
I love this! The first time I heard about the sitting position spine thing was from fight club! When they meet on the plane!
Good video. Hapeended to me once when the Captain came on pre departure and explained that the weather radar was not working. He said that usually that would not be a massive issue but there were thunderstorms forcast on route so flight was delayed 24 hours whilst they sorted it. Prob cost the airline lots of £ but well done to him! Safety first allways.
In my mind “influencer” is practically a derogatory term for very extrovert but not particularly bright person, who use social media and cheap psychological trick of sensationalism - to make money on even less bright “followers”. Glad to see there are educational and informative channels (like this one) to challenge their bull***t.
150 years ago they'd be running a religion.
One of the best descriptions I have seen of these people.
Well said.
exactly.
I watched the 727 crash test full of cameras, avatars and shock patches. Some of the "people" were sitting up, some reclined and some in the crash position. Amazingly, most were better off in the crash positions so I guess influencers only try to sound like they know. Don't confuse them with facts...😅😅😅
Congratulations Captain Hughes ! I am delighted for you , long overdue ! I'm a private pilot with no ambitions of joining the airlines . That was actually my dream when I was a kid but ended up going to med school instead. Again, congratulations Captain .
Trauma nurse here that works as a flight nurse and sees the worst of the worst. Axial loading (basically same type of injury we see in diving subjects in shallow water) more often than not will result in the force being transferred down your spine causing a cord injury or multiple vertebral burst fractures. A dens fracture or Atlanto-occipital dislocation, which is often caused by the head going forward then being forced back, in the case of not putting the head down is often called an internal decapitation because it essentially just leaves just soft tissue keeping the head attached to the body. Not to mention serious injuries to the trachea that can be caused by hyper extension of the neck. Both can be fatal, however I would take an axial loading incident over an internal decapitation any day!
Thank you for taking your time to explain things.
Congratulations on becoming captain Kelsey! Well deserved, I have no doubts about that! And thank you for trying to combat the lies of those influencers.
Nice! I didnt notice till I saw your comment. Congrats Kelsey!
Yes, congratulations, well deserved!
More stripes? Awesome, congrats Kelsie!
Congrats on the fourth stripe sir! So well deserved, your channel is informative and factual. I started in aviation in 1973 and have seen it all come and go. At last there is someone putting the record straight.... Thanks 🤝
The best real world example I have of the 'one missing' broken item, but still flying is this: About 10 years ago LH was flying to Vancouver and Calgary. YVR with a 343 or 346 and YYC with a 333. The A330 lost its APU while inbound from europe, so it had "only" 2 working generators. In order to fly back to Germany, it apparently needed to have 3 working to enter ETOPS airspace over the north atlantic.
LH diverted their A340 to YYC, Air Canada maintainance swapped the APUs in the 2 aircraft, and the A340 continued on with a broken APU, relying on the 4 generators it had (one per engine) and the A330 was able to continue home. The A340 needed ground power to start due to non-functioning APU, but that was a minor issue and was not a safety concern.
Four stripes! Congrats Kelsey! Been watching you for years
Congrats on the promotion, CAPT Kelsey! Well done! and I have no doubt that you can handle the extra weight of that 4th bar! Apparently, these people get off on making people fear flying. Thanks for the REAL education from an aircraft maintainer.
I noticed the new stripe also --- congrats!
I noticed too! Congratulations!
@@rethinkcps2116 a first officer
Congrats on your promotion. Always love your videos! 👍
Oooh, now that you mention this!🤩 What an unassuming and modest way of coming out as someone with four stripes 😁
Just the 'spine shooting through your back' bit shows you that their understanding of physics comes from watching cartoons.
😅😅
English isn't my first language and I genuinely don't understand what she meant by that, I just can't visualise it. Maybe it's for the best ? 😅
Spine shooting through your head, sounds impessive! I've been an RN for many years...I don't remember that particular lesson during nursing school, and I have yet to treat a patient for that condition... but heh, obviously these "influencers" must know something i don't....😂
Reminds me of the scene from the movie dictator where the nuclear scientist is describing Daffy Duck
Totally concur with you. I also worked in the E.R. This was all B.S. ! J.L., R.N.@@ladycaterlee19
really cool video, it really does bring to light how much misinformation is out there
Also the head-forward position is intended to keep the head from snapping forward and causing a fatal basilar skull fracture.
You just casually added a 4th strip and didn’t mention it!? Congratulations, Captain Kelsey! As an up and coming PP, with commercial aspirations, you’re an inspiration!
I called bullshit on that “flight attendant’s” videos as soon as she started to pop up. She’s clearly doing it for views. Some of the things she’s said are incredibly unprofessional. She still amassed millions of followers somehow. What I’ve learned is the world is majority-full of idiots, and they all stick together.
She also talks about how she gets drunk, or hooks up with the pilot during flights. I think she was a flights attendant at one point but either quit or was fired. There's no way she's actively working as flight attendant saying the things she does.
@@Oliviaandtrina So you found her page too...ya she a ho lol
@@OliviaandtrinaCorrect. She was sorta correct with the crash pads though and the crew members hooking up. That happens more with the really younger crew members and the regional airlines. I saw some of that years ago when I was younger, BUT you have to go looking for it. Certain crash pads were known for that. She was looking for it probably
Sometimes stupidity pays better than crime.
She amassed that many followers because tiktok causes severe brain rot, to the point that people actually forgo common sense and listen to an idiot
Same exact thing Kelsey with our semi trucks, we decide if it's safe etc...but sometimes simple things like an idiot light or some rubber piece, or maybe a squealing ..well we drive until we reach a shop, Perfectly safe to do so...Just wanted to chime in on your examples here
thank you for this video. always good to see reason being the reason a video gets views :)
Kelce, I feel like the fourth stripe on your uniform is new. If thats the case, HUGE congratulations 🎉🎉! You absolutely deserve it. Thank you ror being a great positive influence in aviation!
My sister is a flight attendant and goes though recurrent training. Everyone thinks they are on the plane to serve as glorified servants. They are there for passengers safety.
If it’s any consolation, a few of us do know what cabin crew are for. A few of us pay attention during the safety briefing, follow the safety advice and wear a seatbelt at all times except when I get up.
I worked fast craft ferries for years and assisted with training. One of our first officers was also the regions head TO. He had a really good "ice breaker" speech for newbie crews starting training. It was along the lines of "you're not just here to pull pints, serve coffees and sell stuff in the gift shop. That's not even your primary job role. If that was all that was needed from you the company would fill that ship with vending machines and not bother with the expense of cabin crew. Your job is to save lives if/when things go wrong. If you think this job is going to be like Starbucks at sea then maybe you should leave now before wasting our and your own time". By the time we'd get the new starts, they'd already had 2 days of "customer service" training so that was our way to make it clear THIS is what the job actually was and it was time to really pay attention.
He's not wrong either. Training cabin crew even back when I was working there cost thousands but if they didn't pass, they were bounced even after investing that much money into them. As for recurring training, MCA regs for ship crew have certifications for some things and you'd have to recertify to keep the qualification. The ships would have regular drills and a log of crew performance was kept. Any individual crew member that failed in those drills often enough would be thrown shore side until retraining could be arranged or if it was bad enough, lose their job and if it's the ships master giving you the boot, they don't even have to go through the warnings process with HR.
Ships in British waters found in breach of regs can have massive fines brought down on the owner/operator and if it's a big enough breach, they can lose their licences to operate at all and have all their routes shut down.
I have heart pilots say: "The flight attendants first and most important job is to assure the safety of this flight and its passengers and crew. It's not to get you drinks or a snack, though they will be happy to do so when their primary job has been attended to, and it's safe to do so." Good to hear that i think.
I would not rely on those women to survive an emergency. Case and point is a rowdy passenger, flight attendants do not restrain them. They're good for alerting the captain and calling police and giving briefings but that's about it.
This is why it’s important to remember employees may observe things but they don’t have a full knowledge of if the full picture. We’ve all worked with people and I’m sure there’s the person who punches the clock and there the types that work to fully understand all aspects of the job and why things happen and push beyond what they “pay you for” making them very knowledgeable
Congratulations on making Captain, I know that had to be such a great feeling. I absolutely love your videos and it's because of you that I have much less fear of flying. I trust you more that social media "influences" because unlike them, you actually know what you're talking about. You've worked hard to build your career, now you're taking the knowledge you've gained and putting it to great use educating people about flying. Thank you for doing these amazing videos that are both educational and fun to watch. I've always had a love for aviation and now I'm much less fearful of flying after getting the right information from someone who knows what they're talking about. Thank you again for all you do and keep making these amazing videos!!!!!
Congrats on the Left Seat upgrade. I am excited to hear your voice deepen with your added responsibility 😂😂😂
Thiiiiis is your captain speaking! ….Welcome aboard thiiiiis cargo flight. We will ,,,,shortly be on our way, please pay full attention to the cargo safety briefing …. Sorry Kelsey😂 well done, I’m a huge fan! 👍👍👍
I couldn’t agree more! Congratulations Kelsey. Great video on bringing out truth about the spreading of blatant misinformation.
Congratulations on becoming a captain!!! I´m currently going through my private pilot training and want to become an airline pilot too. Your content has really inspired me to follow on! Thanks for the difference you make!! You surely deserve that 4th stripe
Hooray for Kelsey!
(Or however it’s spelled)
Hey, I noted that too by myself. Now he has four stripes! Hooray and congrats!
4th strip, congrats!!!
Worked on your “Captain” voice yet, Kelsey?