Pit Boss vs Weber | Which Pellet Grill I Would Buy And Why
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- čas přidán 3. 03. 2022
- In today's video we are talking the Pit Boss Pro Series 1600 vs the Weber SmokeFire pellet grill, and which one I would buy if I could only pick one. My goal with this video was to help educate you on the differences between the Pit Boss and the Weber, and to share with you which one I would buy and why if I could only pick one. Now, both the Pit Boss and Weber pellet grills are fantastic, and I have cooked some amazing food on both, but in the end...only one met my needs and I will explain the reason for that. See the specs below for more information, and as always thank you so much for watching, and feel free to drop a comment with any questions!
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Pit Boss vs Weber
-Where to buy: Both the Pit Boss and the Weber are available at Lowe's Home Improvement.
-Price: At the time of filming, the Pit Boss retails for $999.
Weber retails for $1,199. However, last fall the Weber was $999.
-Capacity:
Pit Boss: 1,598 SQ inches.
Weber: 1,008 SQ inches.
-Weight:
Pit Boss: 243lbs assembled.
Weber: 178lbs assembled.
-Build:
Pit Boss 14G steel- double wall non-insulated lid.
Weber: 12G steel porcelain coated enamel lid with double wall non-insulated sidewalls.
-Shelves and storage:
Pit Boss: Hopper, side shelf, folding front shelf, bottom shelf.
Weber: Side shelf only.
-Hopper:
Pit Boss: 32lb hopper.
Weber: 20lb hopper.
-Temperature:
Pit Boss 160-500º on the controller-600º+ with sear plate open.
Weber: 200-600º on the controller.
-Searing:
Pit Boss: Opening and closing sear plate option with limited space.
Weber: Can sear on the whole surface of the grates.
-Heat distribution:
Pit Boss: runs hotter in the middle and right side. Weber: Mostly even across the grates.
-Grates:
Pit Boss: Porcelain coated cast iron.
Weber: Stainless steel grates.
-Ash Removal:
Pit Boss: External ash and fire pot dump.
Weber: Hidden ash removal.
-Grease management:
Pit Boss: Standard external bucket.
Weber: Hidden grease management system.
-Wifi: Both have WiFi and apps.
Links:
-Pit Boss: pitboss-grills.com/grills/woo...
-Weber: www.weber.com/US/en/grills/wo...
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Dude, nice job on this comparison. I also agree about grease management. I think Weber has a huge ego and refuses to address that mistake. That said If Weber would address the grease and also the way it delivers pellets9the pellets get hung up) this thing would rock! Nice Job man!
Thanks Tommy, I appreciate it brother! I agree with you 100%, a slight change or option to the grease system, and a fix in the hopper, it would be such a solid unit! Thanks for watching buddy!
@@peterprescott4136 agree to disagree. In my opinion it is not a practical design at all. I don’t find the smoke flavor to be anymore pronounced from the Pit Boss, Traeger, Pellet Pro, RecTeq, etc. I think the only thing that SmokeFire can do is completely sear across the whole surface, which really doesn’t matter to me. I don’t use a pellet cooker for grilling. I’m glad to hear you’ve had a great experience with yours, but the common denominator from others has been lots of problems. Alas, most are user error, and I’ve never personally had an issue. I like the cooker, but I don’t find it to be a superior product such as a Lonestar Grillz or a Yoder Smoker. Especially for the price point.
@@AshKickinBBQ don’t know what to say. Using their pellets the smoke profile is obviously better than those you mentioned. Also, if you’ve never had an issue personally and you believe those who do are likely to blame for the issue, why would one conclude the design isn’t practical unless that was their predetermined thoughts. Lastly the price point is way below the Yoders. Way below. Heavy isn’t always better either. Products can be overbuilt and outlast their practical usefulness. Pellet grills built like offsets are ridiculously overbuilt. But like you said, agree to disagree. It’s just a shame people keep knocking the thing even though they have no problems personally. It’s just group think. They had software issues for sure but they’ve largely been resolved for 18 months or so. Hey keep up the nice content. I enjoy your presentation. 👍🏻
@@peterprescott4136 I’m blaming the issue on the fact that I do know people who have had issues. I just said what I didn’t like about the cooker from a consumer standpoint, and the fact the Weber refuses to acknowledge any mistakes in their end, and in fact accused a CZcamsr who was one of the first to test the SmokeFire as “not knowing how to cook” isn’t a good look. That being said, if you are not diligent in cleaning the SmokeFire there will 100% be issues. Even other owners have stated this on previous videos. One other thing to keep in mind is location. As someone who lives in Minnesota, I appreciate the build on Yoders, and I also appreciate their 10 year warranty. It’s kind of a buy once cry once deal. Perhaps I will do a side by side flavor comparison to the Weber and Pit Boss and see if an unbiased party has opinion on the flavor profiles. Pit boss using pit boss pellets, and Weber using Weber pellets? Thanks for the discussion man, it’s nice to have a civil discussion with someone who is educated in cookers for sure. Also, I appreciate your kind words and support on the channel, truly means a lot man!
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Great review and comparison Darrin ! Great information!
Thank you Kent!
Bought the PitBoss 1600 on Monday, coincidentally. Started searching for recipes and how-to vids and found your channel. Subbed 1 minute into the smoke meatloaf video with cheese in the middle. Glad to hear I purchased the right, first pellet grill. Great channel. Not all silly & overly CZcamsy. Very professional, serious BBQ. Tons of info fellers (and fellettes) can use.
Thank you so much for your kind words. My goal is to teach as best I can and have some fun!
Amazing Job! I'm looking to buy a pellet grill and you made my homework much easier!!!
So glad I could help you out!
I am loving this review... Outstanding. Thank you. I don't know that I would trust the LCD screen. LED screens tend to last a little longer with outside conditions.
Have enjoyed my 820 pro series for about 3 yrs now with no problems and 100's of cooks. I learn something new all the time and try to perfect my out come each and every time I smoke. I to use my 820 primarily as a smoker and use my weber kettle for grilling. I am in the process now of looking into other pellet grills as well as stick burners to up grade this year sometime. I enjoy the research on all cookers almost as much as I do the cooking. Awesome comparison video on the Pit Boss and Weber. Enjoy your channel.
Thank you Thomas, I feel the same way! I just love all cookers, lol! No bias here from me! If you're cooking BBQ, we can be friends. No matter what you're cooking on!
Thanks you did a great job!
Thanks so much!
Very nice informative video! I went with the Pit Boss pro 1150 and I absolutely love it! Living in Florida it does a great job with humidity and temperatures here. I've made the absolute best butts ,using your methods by the way and rubs!, that I've ever made in my entire life!
That is so awesome to hear brother, thanks for the kind words! I'm glad you're loving the Pit Boss, and I am so glad you've had some successful cooks with the videos! Thank you so much!
I just upgraded my Pit Boss to the Pro Laredo 1000. I have cooked on a couple brands, traeger and green mtn, and I have yet to be convinced that they are superior to mine. Thanks for the useful info.
Hey there, I agree with you whole heartedly. I have cooked on almost all big brand name pellet grills, and I think the Pit Bosses are fantastic!
Can't wait to see the gen 3 in 2023!
I agree…I wish the pit boss grates had a better fit. Too loose for me! Great comparison video!! I’m a Weber guy at heart but lately they have been banking on their name a little too much for me. They need to address a few things to get that “bang for your buck” feeling back for me. Lately, they keep raising their prices and reducing their included features which makes me feel their are better bangs for my bucks out there on the market!!!
great video and overview, thanks for putting this together. I have a 1100 series and seen the 1600 at Lowes and love the new design, weight, new features, etc., overall built much better. I am glad you mentioned the cold and how this holds the temp since they do not make a blanket for it like i have for the 1100 and sounded like it does retain the heat when the temp is in the teens or lower. Have you had any issues with the flame boiler plate/slider. mine tends to get gummed up and have to clean it more than i would have to with my treager since i can put foil on theirs and makes cleanup much faster with theirs.
Also any issues with paint on the back side, mine in the first year discolored then started getting bigger, had to sand down the large area and repaint.
Hey Phillip, so my my slider does get sticky until the grill gets warmed up, then no issues. I have not had any issues with my paint!
I love my weber ex6 and it's amazing
Glad you enjoy it!
Pumped for this video. Wondered where your head is at with this. Just started the video.
Thanks for watching! Wanted to get this out awhile okay, but I’ve been swamped lol
Thanks for this great video - very thorough and helpful for first time buyers like me. On the Weber grease management point, would it be helpful if one drills bigger holes for the grease and ash to fall through?
Possibly, I'm not one for drilling into my stuff though lol
I have the PB 1150 Pro and it does it all , the 1600 is bigger but the 1150 has all the same features except a light.
Get rid of the smoke fire and got a Rec Tec 700, love it. Great review brother
Someday I'll add a Rec to the lineup! Thanks John!
Awesome comparison video Darrin!! Ya had me fooled before I started watching the video, you seemed to be spending alot of quality time with the Weber. Hahaha. I want to love my 1600 more than my 1100 pro just still trying to understand some of the differences. Pit Boss came to the conclusion not to replace any more parts in mine so they sent me a new 1600 (Great warranty by the way). I'm just waiting on the updated PID now as they sent me one with the older PID. I still really like the 1600 and hopefully soon I'll have a great running cooker.
Hi Mark, I hope you get the 1600 rolling sooner than later! I truly is an awesome cooker and I definitely love mine! I'm glad to hear Pit Boss is taking care of you!
I posted on the other vid, but it looks like you went with the 1600, congrats man I cant find any of them in stock near me! I don't really need anything that big, bit it appears its the better insulated and updated controller.....
The flavorizor bars allow smoke to go straight to your product vs a deflector shield, this creates a much better flavor in the end. The grease management is basically the same as the most sold grill ever, their kettle
Yeah, I’ve heard that, and I disagree about the flavorizer bars attributing to any better smoke flavor in the end. And yeah, grease management in a kettle and vs. a pellet grill with powered convection is completely different.
Have you seen the blind taste test with GMG, Weber, Yoder and Pitts/Spitts? Both guys picked the Weber ribs and attributed it to direct access to the smoke.
You add 1/2 pan to catch drippings while smoking and you have an incredible smoker, you remove the pan and you have an incredible grill. Pitt Boss is a sub par grill. Most people use this price point of a pellet grill for both smoking and grilling.
Very informative video! I'm with you on the pitboss selection. They are built well and excellent price point. I still use a charcoal grill for grilling and stick with the pitboss for smoking. What's your opinion on offset wood smokers vs pellet smoker? Would love to see a comparison taste test on those. Hang in there, it'll warm up eventually!
Hey Mark, thanks for watching buddy! I think offsets are awesome, and I think pellet grills are awesome. My favorite smokers are my Gateway Drum Smokers, but I do have a stick burner I got last year I have yet to use and I will probably knock out a few videos on that! And yes....anxiously waiting for spring!
@@AshKickinBBQ drums all the way!
Nice video, very informative. Do you have any plans to review a Camp Chef Woodwind 36? I would love to see a review of that pellet grill.
Until next time...stay safe out there.
Hey Ryan, I would love to sometime but nothing in the works as of now. I've reached out to them a few times and never heard back.
I got an EX6 and agree with the grease management system. Never had an issue with it but see the potential for issues. That said, I use pans under protean on longer cooks and I clean it out before each cook (a 5 minute procedure) . The hopper is the other issue, I don't like filling it; no matter how careful I am, I always get pellets between the hopper and grill. Never really had a pellet bridging issue but I check it every couple of hours or so. All that said, the food this thing puts out is top notch. Great color, bark, and even though it is just cosmetic, the smoke rings are off the hook. Also get some good smoke flavor off this. I don't have a Pitt Boss to compare. I had a Brunswick before the SF and the Brunswick had a grease fire and was sent back (talk about irony with the grease issues of Weber, LOL).
Hey Troy, thanks for the comment! I agree about the hopper, it is a pain to fill sometimes, lol. That is ironic about the grease fire in the Brunswick!
FULL agreement. It's about a 90/10% split on how many go into the hopper, and what I have to sweep/shop vac from the patio.
Hey, D. Appreciated the video. I’ve had my eye on the SmokeFire for awhile, been waiting on Weber to make changes whenever Gen 3 comes out. Have you heard anything about their upcoming Stealth Edition? Have they addressed any of the issues you laid out?
Hey Jared, so I was actually looking at the stealth edition yesterday online. It looks really cool, I love the blacked out look, but as far as addressing issues....I didn't see that they had. I hope to see one in person when they come out and look into them myself. Like I said, the smokefire is a good cooker but it's high maintenance for sure!
I have the ex4 the pros for me thicker metal so more heat retention, I do like the grease management system as it makes for easy cleaning just brush everything to the hole and dump the pan. I used both I would say the smoke is more on the weber since it is open. The controller is the best I have used. The con for me you have to use weber as a part source as the grill is too new. The grill is made with porcelain coating which we all know how long that will last. The pit boss is a nice cooker, but the big con is that is made with painted steel and starts to rust, but you can repaint, and parts are very easy to get.
Thanks for the comment!
Nice comparison!! I have the 1600 (love it) that being said I am curious as to how you get ahold of the upgraded controller? Thanks in advance bro!
Hey man, so if your controller has the same increments as mine, it's the updated controller. I was one of the first to have this cooker so I had the older controller in it. Pit Boss replaced the old one with the new for me!
@@AshKickinBBQ Thanks for the reply! I have the older controller as well, I will work on contacting them and maybe get lucky! Keep the vids coming, great work!
I have the EX4, the hopper bugs me more than the grease mgmt. Have not really had any issues with grease, it could be better for sure. Yes, shelves should be included for the price. I agree the weber is definitely better in the grilling dept than smoking. Just curious what part on MN are you. I'm in the MN river valley. Good video as always.
Hi Paul, I'm in central MN, northern suburbs. Thanks so much for watching man, always nice to see a fellow Minnesotan on here!
I am in MN as well (st croix river valley). I have the Weber Smokefire EX4 Gen2: my first pellet cooker. Loved it at first. The cold weather performance and almost constant flame outs are so fn irritating. I have replace the controller, the board, the glow plug assembly, sealed the whole thing with high temp gasket, sift my pellets, etc and it is still unreliable. From now on if I have a "serious" cook I will be doing it old school on my ceramic kamado.
@@steve5623 Thanks Steve, so I guess the weber isnt that good :( its the only thing in stock my area. I live in Buffalo New York and don't do much grilling in the winter, but I suppose I could by just moving it from the patio to the garage and into the driveway for winter use...
I use a power washer to clean the pro series grates cleans perfect
I’m sure it does, but one shouldn’t have to do that…lol.
@@AshKickinBBQ true
Thanks for the review. Do you have a cook book out? If so where can I get it?
I do not...but maybe someday!
Curious about food and smoke flavor. Cooking a brisket, which one would you use? Pork Shoulder?
As far as flavor goes, they both put out great product. I’d be happy to cook on either. That being said, I’d go with Pit Boss for smoking. I think it smokes well and the flavor is top notch. Maybe in the future I’ll do a comparison and have someone taste test to see what they like better?
I got my first pellet smoker a few months ago. It’s a cuisinart wood creek 4in one grill. What’s your opinion on that brand. I’ve done several cooks on it after watching your videos and all turned out good
Hi Shawn, glad to hear you've had success with the videos! I don't know enough about the Cuisinart to comment on it, but I have a few friends that have it and love it! Maybe I'll get my hands on one someday!
The best part is I got it on clearance. Almost bought a Traeger but didn’t want to spend that kind of money. And was worried how the food would taste but turned out a good investment lol
I had an ex4 (gen 2) and returned it. It failed 3 1/2 hours into its first cook. I've been looking at the pit boss smokers now.
Nothing wrong with a Pit Boss my friend
Hmm, tried two of those 1600's and was way less than impressed. Got another Smokefire and dang does it make amazing tasting food. Always good to see videos showing this n that though. Some day, maybe some company will get their act together and make the ultimate pellet grill, with bits n pieces borrowed from all the brands.
The perfect pellet grill...lol I like it
@@AshKickinBBQ and since then, ditched the pellet grill altogether, always somethin, back to a gravity 1050 🤣🤷🏻♂️
@@UABFWSS Haha, excellent! I had the smaller one and didn't like it. Went to get the bigger 1050 and they were sold out.
@@AshKickinBBQ had all 3 now, 1050 is nice
Grilling season? Didn't know it ever stopped. We grill all year around here in Texas. Excellent review! I myself in the next day or so am going to purchase the 1600 elite myself. Your review help make that decision. I think a lot of people mistake exactly what each grill is designed for. The Weber is surely a fire Hazzard I wouldn't buy it, I can see that the grease would fall directly to the fire source, that's bad.
Avery, it's grilling season for me year round in Minnesota as well. I'm glad you got some value from this video! Can't wait to hear how the 1600 Elite treats ya!
I have a grill already, I'm looking to get a new smoker. What do you recommend, a pit boss vertical pellet smoker or a pit boss pellet grill, what model would you recommend?
I would roll with a vertical if you already have a grill, more space and room for activities.
Did you check out the weber smokeFire EPX6 STEALTH Edition ?
Yeah, from what I’ve been told, and what I’ve seen, there is no difference either than the colors.
How do you know if the current 1600 has the updated firmware when you go to the store? I think this was a 2021 issue so I assume they replaced them or no?
Do you have the 10° increments?
@@AshKickinBBQ haven't bought it yet. I think the increments of 10 is the updated one but wasn't sure how to know when purchasing the box at the store. Thanks for the quick response bro!
Have you ever compared the Weber portable gas grills to The pit Boss portable gas grills?
No
Just wondering what the startup time is to reach 300-350 on the PB 1600?
About 20-25 minutes
How does these compare to Louisiana LG1200?
No clue, never cooked on a LG1200
You didn’t touch on performance which one performs better with smoke flavor etc? Hard to make a decision based on just features I heard the Smokefire puts out tremendous smoke flavor compared to the comp.
That’s because smoke flavor is subjective. So no it’s really not hard to make a decision since smoke tubes can be added for more flavor. That’s being said, I prefer the Pit Boss smoke flavor.
Those diamond grates are a PAIN IN THE ASS TO CLEAN. Other than that the PitBoss 850 is working great after 1 year . Webber needs to wake up and fix the grease issue. Webber has an attitude issue. The PitBoss app sucks, after about a year I still can not get it dialed in. I have used the PitBoss in -30deg temps and just let it cook. Works great
Agreed Mike! The Pit Boss has been bulletproof for me as well!
in terms of the looks of the unit, the weber is a far better-looking smoker grill, and you know that the porcelain-coated enamel they use will out-live all of us. That said, I have two weber gas grills and my smoker is a pit boss vertical smoker. As pointed out at the end, these smoker grills are a compromise, with the weber perhaps being a better grill and the pit boss perhaps being the better smoker. for the cost of these pricy units, you could buy a decent weber gas grill and a decent pit boss vertical smoker for about the same amount and get the best of both worlds...not to mention that for a huge cook-out, you now have a lot more square inches of cooking surface because you have two units rather than one. i don't understand the fascination with pellet grills when pellet vertical smokers are superior smokers, and gas grills are superior grills, esp for weeknights after work when i just want to turn it on and and have it heated up in 5 minutes.
Eh, I have a couple Pit Boss verticals and I wouldn't say they're superior. But to each their own! I personally don't own a gas grill, and I never plan to. I have no problem waiting for charcoal to get ready.
For you guys that have a pitboss how many years do they last? and which one cooks a steak better? which one tastes better?
I have had all mine for years and no issues. As for your other questions, they all cook the same for the most part.
@@AshKickinBBQ thank you! Waiting for Lowe's to get the elite in stock or Weber releases the stealth I keep hearing rumours they updated the hopper again for the stealth...
@@user-et3kk4tn4s as far as I’m aware…the stealth is the same cooker, just different colors 🤷🏼♂️
@@AshKickinBBQ thanks again. I really appreciate not only taking the time to make the vids but also to respond to questions. That's really awesome!
@@user-et3kk4tn4s of course man! I try to respond to everyone, but of course it sometimes takes a few days! I appreciate your support!
Pit oss vs Louisiana founders series?
Made by the same company. Dansons owns both Pit Boss and Louisiana Grills. Both solid products.
@@AshKickinBBQ yes, and when I saw Joe Traeger was part of the company I knew what brand I wanted.
To me, at the end of the day, the Weber name is not worth ~$200 and ~500in of cooking space. Aside from the issue the Pit Boss carried things standard the Weber makes you pay for. And that Weber doubled down on their terrible grease management system and said, "Clean your grill out. It won't be a problem."
If I really want to sear, I can use a culinary torch. Or transfer it to a Kettle. Or, on a Pit Boss, just sear a couple at a time..which honestly is all I want to sear at a time. Because I can't control searing 10 burgers/steaks at once.
I agree 100$ brother, well said!
Oh and it was $499 and got it on sale for $299
What you have to realize about this Weber is that it is primarily a GRILL and not a low n slow smoker. The Weber is far, far, far, superior to any gas grill. I will never use a gas grill again for the rest of my life. It's the best thing since sliced bread for grilling steaks, brats, and burgers. "Grilling!"
Sure, you can do a low n slow, but you will have to use a heat shield such as foil pans or cookie sheets. It will do smoked briskets and pork butts extremely well but you must make adjustments, and it's all about leaning how to adjust. 😉
At least the Weber is made in USA. Right in Chicago. Treager, pit boss and many other cheaper ones are made in china. Weber built way heavier also. Check out those heavy duty castor wheels.
Actually, they are designed and engineered in Chicago, and assembled with globally sourced parts. They aren't "made" there persay.
Does it have Wi-Fi? I so want to buy a chinese device and plug it into my wifi network so I (and them and anyone else) can have a point of entry into my home network.
It does, but you don’t have to use it. You can also use foil for making hats instead of wrapping briskets 🤣.
Pit Boss..
Yes sir
never mentioned any difference in flavor from each
Because there isn’t a difference.
@@AshKickinBBQ but there really is a difference... the smokefire made better ribs by a large margine in a blind taste test against a 3k yoder ys650s, 1k gmg and a 3k+ spitz smoker, all used same pellets, salt/pepper rub and brand of ribs ... sure the weber has kinks but they can all be worked around... oh and it's made in the usa, its worth the extra money 👍
@@zacsa389 there is not a big difference. As someone who has cooked on it and all the other big box cookers, there’s no difference. It is not made in the USA, and they got in trouble for advertising that. It is “assembled in the USA using globally sourced components”. I’m not going to argue about this further, but the Weber is a flawed cooker and for the price should be better, period.
The feeder/hopper on the Weber Smokerfire is garbage. It jams all the time. Not some of the time, or most of the time - all the f-ing time. Weber makes a great kettle grill, good gas grill and thats it. the Smokefire is a waste of money. Pit Boss 10/10.
The SmokeFire is a waste of money. The feeder jams all the time. Not some of the time, or most of the time. All the f-ing time. Go buy literally anything else. I just bought one and I mind as well have set $700 on fire in my driveway.
The Webber sucks. Get a different brand. Igniter goes out constantly.
Hence why I no longer own it.