Pit Boss VS Weber | Who Makes The Better Pellet Grill | Pit Boss vs Weber SmokeFire Pellet Grill
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- Pit Boss vs Weber, who makes the better pellet grill. Well on today's show, we find out. We take the Pit Boss Pro Series 1600 and put it to test against the Weber SmokeFire Generation 2 EX6. which one comes out on top. find out now!
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I grew up on Weber grills for 20+ years. The old models were great. Had 4-5 models. But this current Gen 2 Weber pellet grill is just dangerous IMO. Good job man having the guts to call out this lack of an effective grease management system. Your illustrations seem spot on. Thank you for looking out for the average consumer who can't see these dangers from the store aisles just looking at the box exterior. I actually bought my Pit Boss 1150 just two days before I saw your video and this was only the 2nd video I had seen that even eluded to or began to address this grease fire safety concern in the Weber grills. On my PB1150, I'm doing as Dead Broke BBQ recommended and I'm putting my BBQ at a 1-2" slope from left to right to further facilitate grease run off into the pail, eventhough the PB has a fantastic 3+ inch drop slope to its internal grease management system. Seriously man, you are a hero to the American Consumer! Nice work! No BBQ dinner in the world is worth the price of a house fire, or loss of a child due to an unattended grill having a grease fire, especially one that could have been designed to be prevented by the Engineers at Weber, but who failed to do their job and design for safety rather than perceived flavor. Yeah, I can out cook the best BBQ pit masters by lighting a fire to my hardwood oak floors in my own living room... awesome oak flavor to my steaks and chops... but that doesn't mean it's a good idea or even safe to do so. Somethings are just a bad idea because they aren't safe. The Weber product manager should be fired for not having the common sense to see this and fix these safety issues at the Engineering/Design level. How the hell did this thing ever pass legal?
Agree and thanks. I still cant understand why some channels are not pointing this major flaw out. Oh well. I gotta keep it real!
After watching a lot of Pit Boss vids this is the 1st one that actually showed the inter workings features of the how the smoker worked. Excellent vid. Thanks.
Much appreciation for the good words.
Thanks Tommy for the fair comparison. Helped me to make a decision on next my next pellet smoker. Thanks for sharing!!
Glad I could help Scott. Cheers.
Great video Tommy...super informative!!
I've always been on the fence when it comes to pellet grills, and to be honest, after watching your video, I love my Masterbuilt 1050 even more.
As well you should!!!
Thanks for the video Tommy. I almost pulled the trigger on the Weber. Glad I watched this first.
Ty, other than the way it handles the grease. Its a great pit!
Absolutely fair comparison. Great job, Tommy👍
Thanks 👍
Informative, fair and honest review. Very nice! 👍😎🍻
Thanks! 👍
Nice video Tommy. I believe that was a detailed side by side comparison of the two pits to give viewers information to decide on a purchase that will suit there needs.
Todd. Thanks brother!
Thank you Tommy you made easier to decide on my next pit
Thanks bud!
great comparison Tommy! Thanks.
My pleasure Bruce. Thanks for all you do!
I’ve had my Pit Boss Pro 1150 for six months now. Absolutely love it.
Eric. Its a beast!
Nicely done Tommy! You nailed it!
Tom. Thanks brother!
Very fair assessment.
Ty..... Cheers!!
No need to worry about the Smokefire Grease System. Admittedly it doesn't work as designed but everyone has already figure out that you can easily, I mean EASILY put a drip pan under your cook. Kind of a no-brainer fix for that. The other grills that I am familiar with basically have the drip pan built in.
The thing that sold me on the Smokefire was that quality of the food possible on this Smokefire. I am far form the only one who notices that. It just cooks better with more smokey flavor. The smoke ring it gets is all you need to know about the Smokefires efficiency.
The build quality is exceptional as well.
I have a Genesis Gas Grill but I am not particularly a Weber Fanboy although there is plenty of reason to favor their products. I studied up on what's available for a pellet smoker and chose the Smokefire just as soon as the Gen 2 came out. Since we were moving at the time and staying with family while remodeling our new home before moving in it took me awhile to get around using it. In that time they have upgraded the software several times. Once I started using it I loved it and have had no problems so far.
However there are several other grills I considered. One is the Traeger Ironwood and the other is the Camp Chef Woodwind. At the price I think the Woodwind in an exceptional offering. If the build quality was equal to the Smokefire or the Ironwood I wood have bought one.
So far I have enjoyed your videos. Keep up the good work.
What an awesopme post! Cheers Bk and enjoy your week!
I have a old pit boss 820 ive had for probably 5 years and i use it quite often I've never had a grease fire yet and i clean it after about every 4 to 5 cooks
I also had the 820. AWESOME PIT!
Great comparison Tommy. I looked at both of these pits when I was looking for a new one. The Weber issue was the grease management and the Pitboss for me was the 3 racks. Not enough space between them to really load up the pit with thick meat. I ended up jumping all in with the Yoder YS640.
Well Doug you can not go wrong there!
That like 3x the price of these lol. I would never pay over 1,000 for a pellet smoker. I would only pay that for a custom offset.
The grease management is why I ended up going with a Recteq 590. Videos like that just solidify my choice. Thanks Tommy!
Right on.... I owned the 590 and it kicked azz.... Cheers
The 590 is the best! Love mine. 3 years and not one issue.
Good explanation on the safety. Which of the two provides better smoke and flavor for ribs?
Both pretty equal.
First off you had the ex6 roaring then said low and slow. I have the ex4 and ex6. You have to know what your using it for before you cook. For burgers or steak on high you have to have it clean that’s obvious. Low and slow you can get away with a lil crud. They had major prob with the 1st gen and they addressed that. Gave out gen2 to anyone with a 1. Even with the old one I used to have I’ve never had a fire prob. It was more with the auger getting jammed. Customer service so good it literally made me buy the ex6 the next day.
Good honest review Tommy, that's why we watch your channel, good cooks and a honest review. Weber will have to modify that in the future, no one wants a fire hazard around the house.
Thanks Will and thanks for watching.
Saw the same 2 grill comparison, they also mentioned $200 price difference and to get the front folding shelf and some other things that the pitbull's head was additional charge upgrades, nice video
Terry. Thanks- Enjoy and thanks for watching.
Thanks for this!
My pleasure!
Great episode Tommy
Thanks buddy. Appresate you popping in!
Man I have the pit boss pro 4v2 I love it I’m really looking forward to getting the new 1600 are you going to get it??
Ive reached out to pit boss.... ;).... That said. Ive not heard back. lol
Good review Tommy. The grease removal system was something that put me on the fence before buying the SF. I found keeping it level along with spending 5 minutes beforehand to do a quick clean keep it running like a champ. The 5 minutes clean before consists of scraping any ash and grease to the drain holes. I spend more time on the kettle before using than the SF. I came from a Pit Boss which had a grease fire so bad I had to call the fire department. The manual said to just dump the ash management cup and that would take care of that. It said nothing about having to take the screws out of the plate which covers the burn pot and having to vacuum that out. After 5 uses enough ash and grease built up to where it ignited and almost took out my gazebo and fence. I put a review on both the Walmart and Pit Boss site for how dangerous the Brunswick was and they never published it. Lost all faith in Pit Boss at that time. Great review though Tommy, I appreciate your honesty.
Troy, thanks brother for keeping it level. People need to understand what is important to them, maybe different to you. Use a pan under low and slows and this pit rocks. I just wish weber included a plate for low and slows. Heck. If they include a large drip play id use it and it would have changed the whole review! Cheers!
@@thegalleryBBQ I agree. You would think someone there would have figured out a better grease removal system. Would think even angling it from the center burn chamber down to the left and right with the goofy buckets on the sides and an ash removal system in the center would have made this one of the better cookers out there while solving it's main issue. Since they didn't do that, I use a drip pan under the protein for low and slows. Not much different than I do with the SnS where I foil the section under the protein. Not the best system but not impossible to work with either. Cheers!
Treager and most pellet grills are only low and slow. Take 30 to get to temp if you want it high. The Weber takes like 10min to get to 600. SmokeFire is meant for Weber users. It’s grillers moving into smoking and can do both. I still think the grease management could use some work but I’ll never worry about a Weber product with their CS.
Nice analysis.
Thanks!
Bought the 1600 just after it came out and have watched all your videos on it. The reason I really like the 3 rack system was simply for more ribs. Once trimmed I had 12 racks comfortably on it. I had trouble understanding the grease management at 1st till I realized I was not level. Derrrr. After that, right in the bucket. I was not a fan of the hopper grate so I removed it. Wanted to be able to use my flavored pellets for the smoking, empty as many as possible and then use the cheaper competition blend once wrapped. The inner coating also started to flake and I had to high pressure it away. I have been extremely happy with my purchase and so has my family. Take care brother. Curious to see the pit boss ultimate 5 burner griddle.
SD... thanks brother and thanks for your support. You bring up a good point on those ribs. Cheers.
GREAT VIDEO TOMMY, GLAD I GOT A PIT BOSS SEE YOU SUNDAY
Can't wait!
I’ve had the Weber since it first came out. I’ve never had issues as you e mentioned but I clean my grill every time I use it. I’ve done cooks for 16 hours with no issues.
Good to know! Awesome pit.
Very good review on the 2 pits
Cheers Doug!
Really nice review on both smokers Tommy. I really wish would have addressed that grease issue as well as the hopper issue. Not sure if I’d trust it for an overnight cook. Not sure what the price difference is. Thanks for sharing your thoughts! Cheers brother!
Thanks 👍 Jay. Weber knows it's there but have yet to address it from Gen1 to Gen2. Sometime ego gets in the way. Best to admite your mistake and fix it!!
Spot on. I don't think the Dial A Fire has helped Weber to make this a future runaway hit. I am sure it's fine as long as you babysit with it.
That was a nice video Tommy I’m glad I made the right choice with the 1600 i wouldn’t be happy With that burn in the deck like that !!!
The 1600 rocks!
Thanks for pointing out the differences. I personally don't use pellet grills at this time but I appreciate the information if I get one in the future. My Weber gas grill has been going strong since 2004 and always gives great results so that's why I've never ventured into the pellet grill territory. You are one of my 3 channels I give a thumbs up at the beginning of the video.
George. appreciate you brother!
@@thegalleryBBQ No problem. Not only are you one great chef in my opinion but your overdubs in your videos are just stupendous and I really enjoy. Was that your idea or a technical person behind the scenes? Either way please continue because it is excellent.
@@georgesawtooth2214 wow. blanks for the kind words. Tge show is all me. Appreciate the support. Ty
@@thegalleryBBQ As far as I'm concerned you are the Daddy Jack's of outdoor bbq. And if anyone wants to check out old CZcams videos of Jack Chaplin please go ahead because the guy was phenomenal.
Good comparison and opinion. To bad about the deck.. that's a deal breaker, like you said "a fire waiting to happen"!
I'd like to see the PitBoss against the Master Built 800, since you have one of those.
Great job Tommy!
Randy. Will see brother. Cheers.
In my opinion, that would be trying to compare apples to oranges. Masterbuilt is charcoal fired whereas the PB is pellet. Two totally different fire sources.
Aren't we just trying to smoke meat? Achieve the best flavor with the least amount of effort. Why I don't have an offset, to much work.
Hey tommy great review i see alot of similarities with both grill compared to my traeger timberline 1300 i love the 5 degree increment’s with the temp controller and the super smoke mode its a handy too to have my only complaint with traeger is the ash cleanout i have to pull all the racks out and get out the shop vac to clean it i really like how pitboss does it thanks for sharing cheers🔥 🍺👊
Thanks for the info
Having had both Pit Boss and the Weber smokefire I can honestly say you have no idea what you are talking about !! Have had the Smokefire since they first came out and never had a grease fire but can not say the same for the Pit Boss...I have since sold the Pit Boss.
Michael, I appreciate your comment. Other than the way the weber handles grease it's a great pit!
Good job Tommy. Spot on. Low and slow like a pork but set it go to bed could be a major issue
Mike. You just have to put a pan under it to catch the grease!
Thanks, you just solidified my decision to buy a Pit Boss.
Joe. Thanks brother. Enjoy!
I love my Pit Boss
Hey Tommy, Great review there’s no getting around that the grease management system is terrible the other issues one could do deal with really don’t know how that got past the prototype stage you would think anyone looking at that would say you can’t drain the grease towards the fire thanks for Telling it like it is. have a good one🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍
John. Thanks brother. Always appresate your comments.
@@thegalleryBBQ hey Tommy, you’re too kind by the way might not be a bad idea to get a fire extinguisher for the shack because you just never know🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍
Yeah you treated both pits fair, and it makes me glad I went with a gravity series pit
Thanks brother. Did the best I could. Cheers.
I have had zero grease fires on my gen 2 ex6 (long cooks , burgers , ect).. I have however had several issues with both pit boss's I've owned on long cooks. One pit boss burned back into the hopper and ignited the pellets
John. Enjoy brother. Its a great pit that i sometimes definitely miss.
The Masterbuilt Gravity Series Digital Charcoal Griddle + Grill + Smoker can walk circles around any pellet grill
Agreed!!!!!!!! Cheers!
Wow Tommy, that was a real deal honest review. You are totally right about that Weber and that’s why the recommend you use catch pans below the grates. As far as the pit boss goes, I personally don’t like their drip pan as it is hard to keep clean too. Eventually the slide plate that gives you the option to seat is eventually going to get stuck or gunned up too. I really like the smokers like GMG and Traeger that have a flat grease pan/slide. Give you the option for replacement liners or even foil. Bottom line is ALL pellet smokers require maintenance and I tell my customers if that cleaning is required after or before every cook.
Again great video no thanks for your honesty. I am going to tell my customers to watch this video. 👊🏼
Ric. Good points brother. Thanks for the stop in!
He’s right they all require maintenance but daily maintenance vs weekly or monthly is a big difference. Have had my 1600 since day one going on a year and haven’t had one issue. I clean it once every few weeks and grease it up and that way my sear plate never sticks. Like tommy says Easy peazy.
Great comparison Tommy! I guess Weber is just stubborn and would rather burn a few houses down instead of reengineering their mistake.
That old Ego of Weber refuses them to fix the way the pit handles grease. Maybe Gen3...
@@thegalleryBBQ but that Ego does give them the best bark(webber), currently dealing with my Traeger Ranger that literally burned itself to death. during a cook grill exceeded 600 degrees was alerted by my camera there was a fire. luckily I was home and had a chemical extinguisher. the entire electronic inside literally are melted together. this after having Traeger replace the auger and temp sensor because they said it was faulty when I brought it in the first time it lit fire. my ranger required daily cleaning to even use it without a fire.
I think you nailed. I call the Weber " A Beautiful Mess". For the price the Pit Boss it will win every time in my eyes. I expected more for $1200 from Weber.
Melvin. Agreed. Put some wheels on it, include a side and front shelf, and fix the grease issue!
I just bought 2 Weber Smokefire EX4’s at Lowe’s today for $150 (assembled) and $200 brand new in box. Pit Boss was $550 or $650.
@@ThePerkDaddy why so cheap??
@@sbdave They said they were trying to get rid of them and had them on clearance! I thought the price was wrong, but it wasn’t! It’s a much better smoker than my pit boss pro series.
Great comparison Tommy ! Agreed Weber’s grease management needs some work.
Yes they do
i bought the weber and love it. The smoke flavor is much better than my old green mountain.. I am guessing because of the flavorizer bars as opposed to a plate that blocks a lot of drippings from burning and putting off a great smoke. At low temp, the smoke is extreme. I clean out ash after every long cook. And scrape grease out of it when I see it build up. I burn a lot of tree limbs and trash and just throw all the flavorizer bars and grates in the fire. Next day, all clean.
No fire issues. Gets hot for searing. Again because of flavorizer bars, you get similar cook to a gas grill. You get the best of both worlds. Only complaint is pellets still get stuck in hopper. They need to center the auger in the middle of hopper instead of one end. I dump remaining pellets and store dry. I think my old grill had issues with damp pellets that stayed in the grill after I was finished using it. Fire starts every time now. Overall does a great job. Also was able to get the front and side shelves at Home Depot. Needed accessory in my opinion. I think if you clean it up after long cooks (briskets) you wont have any fire issues.
AG86 I do agree with what you said. Problem is, most backyard pitmasters will never clean there pit after every use. I do like this pit, alot and feel weber is real close. Cheers.
Tommy, why don’t you like the diamond shaped grates on the pitboss. I have never had any but always thought they’d be awesome
Mike. To hard to clean. Scrap,scrap,scrap. lol I just prefer strait SS grates! Cheers.
Very good review. I have the weber and in the manual it says to use a water pan on low n slow cooks. But I believe u shouldn't have too especially if they went back to the drawing board with this thing. They were better off making an oil drip system similar to pit boss or come up with an add on that can easily be installed to redirect the oil directly into the oil pan. Overall adding a water pan isn't a big deal and besides that I like the grill. Great video 👍
STATUS thanks brother. I agree. Weber needs to drop the ego, admite there mistakes, and fix this sucker! Other then the grease, its an awesome pit!
Call me crazy but I really like this video. I believe it is honest and I hope Weber will take it to heart before an accident happens. I am a longtime Weber gas grill owner(Genesis Silver C). I have replaced the flavorizer bars a few times, but the burners only once. Still the original grates and looking great and the ignitor still works. This grill survived a tornado in NC a few years back. Weber make good stuff. This pellet grill may need a few changes to be more competitive but I think your video was fair in calling this out. Good work!
Ed, thanks brother, I really appreciate the level-headed response! I can say Weber is close to perfection with the smokefire-. I few fixes and it could be a game-changer!
Great comparison review Tommy! That grease issue was one of yhe drawbacks from the generation 1 weber, and that's a major issue...you thonk they would have redesigned it...guess not..lol for the money pitboss is def. the winner👍 thanks for sharing brother, have yourself a great one, you all stay safe!👍👊🍻🍺
Cheers brother and thanks forn watching.
Great comparison, I would have talked price as well. Landslide victory for Pitboss, Cheers!
Thanks brother. Yeah. Price would landslid it even further! lol
Your thoughts are the same as mine. Grease management in the weber is terrible. But get rid of the cast iron racks in the pit boss except for searing.
Agreed and agree!
Didn’t talk about the quality of the food. Which is one of the most important aspects. If not the most important
Masterbuilt wins as it adds more smoke. Cheers
I feel like it was a fair video. The grease issue could be a bad day for someone. I've had my kettle flair up with grease once. It's not fun
Thanks bud and agree!
Good presentation. I’m just a poor boy from a poor family so these grills aren’t in my future. I’m thinking 980 is king. Currently BHC & Acorn Junior in my camp
Steve. Appresate you watching. Cheers.
I’ve had the Ex4 gen 2 for a year, not one issue. I also have Rec Tec and the MB 1050. Smokefire puts out great tasting food as well as the rec tec. The 1050 does ok but also has the same issue as the Weber with the grease puddling. I like to keep my grills as clean as possible, so on long cooks there’s always a pan under everything.
Chris. Your saying the SF and Rec Tec will out some the 1050?
@@thegalleryBBQ the 1050 puts out quality food, but for me, I rank them the SF and the Rec are 1 and 1A the 1050 is 2. But that’s me. I’ve had flare ups with the 1050 and SF, 1050’s was a lot worse. I also would
like MB to come out with stainless grates at some point for the 1050! Tommy thx for your reply and always the great content! Any chance of getting a Weber pizza kit?!
Excellent job Tommy, I was betting on Weber. Looks like Pit Boss makes a better product though.
At this point, yes!
Which one has the better build quality Tommy
100% Pit Boss.
I just bought 2 Weber Smokefire EX4’s at Lowe’s today for $150 (assembled) and $200 (brand new in box).
Hi Dave. I think I might have seen your post on facebook. Nice price for sure-. Enjoy!
How did you find that deal?
You forgot to mention anything about the ser plate on the Pitboss also the cost would be nice to know also otherwise great video
Mark thanks bud. Im pretty sure i mentioned the sear plate but if not my bad. Cheers and thanks for watching.
I was amazed and appalled in the early cooking videos on the Smokefire by how much pellet ash was blown all over the food. I like smoke flavor but not smoke chew!
Its in that design. I think Weber is so close to creating something with that pellet. At this point. They just need to get out of there own way.
Tommy, great video. I’ve always been a weber guy as far as gas grills go, but, maybe they should stick to gas grills! And leave the smokers to the people who’ve done the research!
dan. I think this grease management issue can be easily fixed. At this point it's just a matter of ego.
You got it right.
Thanks-
Thank you for the showing that the weber still has the dangerous grease fire problem, if I had that. I'd send it back. Pitboss WINS this round for me. Because of that 1 Weber failure.
Daniel. Cheers brother!
Sadly the Gen 2 did not correct the grease fire problem probably because it would require a redesign. They also did not include the optional shelving sold seperate. For the price of a Smokefire, that should have been included. Weber should also include a fire extinguishers with every Smokefire.
Dennis. That and I think Weber has a bit of an ego problem. That said. This pit's close to perfection!
Ninja wood 🔥 fire grill is the best without a dought ,no more bigass smokers thats not necessary with the ninha wood fire🔥.
Which one had the better tasting food?
Tie...... Cheers.
I would like to see a run off….blind taste test. Just to confirm.
I managed to pick up a Smoke Fire for $250CAD, thanks mostly to negative reviews on youtube scaring everyone away and no buyers for this gentlemans used smokefire. Have used it numerous times and it is fantastic. Its not the pit, its the pitmaster right? I keep a clean grill and I tend to my pits, I guess if you are lazy and just want a set it and forget it and clean it every once in awhile, smoke fire is not for you. Sadly, many fall into the latter I feel.
Good luck with that. lol It almost burnt my shack.
Green mountain Grills are the way to go
Ive heard good thuings. Cheers and thanks for watching.
I don't get the deal around grease fires etc. EVERY grill is prone to it, just keep it clean folks and especially for pellets, a quick vacuum is all that's needed. 5 mins of one's time. I own an EX6 and its been solid, no fires to speak of and really can't complain yet. For low and slow cooks, I use a pan underneath to catch grease and serve as a water pan too. Because the Weber reaches 600f, for searing or using it as a regular q, I just make sure after every cook I do a quick clean to avoid any potential issues.
Mike. Good points. Cheers and thanks for watching.
Good video. Still will take my MB over them all!
Agreed!
grease fires start due to superheating the grease, not simply exposing it to fire. if grease itself was as easily flammable as you're suggesting, bbq and filling would literally be a fire hazard every time.
And while grilling we do what. superheat the grill that superheats the grease. lol Thanks for watching.
Which one sears/cooks a steak better?
Thats not even close!! The Pit Boss!
@@thegalleryBBQ Thank you, now I just need to find a new 1600 in stock somewhere!
Oof. I just put together my Weber SmokeFire Ex6. Good to know I need to basically clean this thing throughly after each cook.
Throttle. Its an awesome cooker! Keep it clean and drop a pan under those low and slows and Enjoy it!
I ended up returning the grill.
Was not happy with performance. Like in the video I found the right side of the grill to be a lot hotter than left.
Had two glow plugs go out (in less than 90-days). Pellet feed issues (used weber pellets). A few flameouts.
Has pellets in the pellet chute catch fire. I used Weber pellets).
Decided to take Weber up on their 100 Day Money Back offer.
@@CarpalMute Good move and thanks for the update. I picked up lots of heat on this review but said it exactly as I felt. Its the only way I know to run the channel. Whats your next move??
@@thegalleryBBQ I am eyeing the Treager Ironwood 650. However, I am not sure I want to plop $1400 on a pellet grill right now. I am in the hunt for cheaper, but still worthwhile alternatives.
@@thegalleryBBQ I don't mean to spam. But I ended up going with a Kamado Joe Classic II. I've had a few issues with pellet grills and decided to step outside the box and try a Kamado style grill. I'd love to see your thoughts on one in the future.
Great review Tommy........strike the Weber for me.......stick to kettles!
Andy. you can NEVER beat the kettle!
Thank you Tommy. As you have pointed out - Gen 2 of the Weber is just a bandaid on the problematic Gen 1 model.
It's actually sad, as Weber had such a good reputation in every other market.
Their engineers are "pretty smart". They're just not "really smart" - which today one needs to be. - Gen 3?
It's not like this is rocket science, or anything even close to that.
Garry. I think Weber needs to drop the ego and admit they made a mistake. Add a shelf and plate for low smokes and BAM! NOW THAT THING IS READY FOR PRIME TIME!
Very disappointed in Weber. With their brand name and the current popularity of pellet grills, they could’ve absolutely killed it. But instead of just building a top notch pellet grill backed by a solid warranty and awesome customer service, they had to try and reinvent the wheel. Maybe they’ll finally wise up for v3, but I won’t hold my breath. Glad I went with Recteq.
AGREED 100%.
As a proud owner of the 1600 I knew it was the better smoker I looked at many before purchasing in the price point of a thousand dollars the 1600 is going to be hard to beat
Merv. Cheers brother!
I will stick with my Pitboss and Webber charcoal kettle. As an old firefighter, that Webber is a 911 call waiting to happen
My man...... Cheers.
Tommy, this is exactly what I’ve been waiting for. Thank you for the honest and thorough review. I am absolutely shocked Weber did this. I so much wanted it to work because I really liked the looks of it and the possibilities. With the hotspots along with the grease management system not to mention the poor Hopper system makes it a loser. It’s too bad to be honest, they really could’ve hit a home run by just addressing the simplest of problems. I have no idea what their engineering department was thinking. In any case, for now my CharGriller 980 will fit the bill, I’ve been very happy with it, even heat and with the help of external probes I can monitor accurate temperature which is manageable. A pellet grill is still in my plans, good chance it will be a pit boss, zero chance it will be a weber.
The Char 980 is an AWESOME PIT! Cheers!
I want some grilled food!!! :))
K.... just wait till you see my bologna video coming next! Yes, I said bologna!
Just from what I’ve heard from major notable BBQ YTers… while it’s bad at grease management… the Webber has gotten some crazy good reviews in the taste department, because of that bad grease management.
Personally, I’m going with a Lonestar grillz… but I like to watch other reviews
Great point Texarmageddon. I try and keep it real! Have you seen this czcams.com/video/wLezvYszNDY/video.html
I am a big Weber fan but this design is a fail. At that price point a total deal breaker. I think they were trying to focus on being innovative with the flavorizer bar design but lost sight of the grease issue. And you are right, why this wasn't fixed in the gen 2 is a mystery. I am relatively new to pellet cooking but grease management is universal to all types of pits.
Weber knows it's there but have yet to address it from Gen1 to Gen2. Sometime ego gets in the way. Best to admite your mistake and fix it!!
It's a smoke maker... need flavor from a bar that burns the dripping's, your in lala land!
Good review Tommy. Love the channel! Big fan - I’ve been a subscriber since the beginning. I’ll weigh in. I have the Weber SF and love it. Pit holds temps extremely well. Juno tech in their controller - 5 degrees control - 600 degree temp - smoke boost - love it! I’ll be in the minority - best pellet grill for $800 - hands down. Problem with grease fires is most people don’t clean their grills. 5 min of your time will save you the hassle. Even better, put a pan below to catch the grease if you don’t want to clean at all. Had a Traeger and hated the grease can. One time when I didn’t clean where it drained and I got a grease fire (my fault) - can happen with any grill. Lastly, I don’t know how Pitboss’ CS is but I know Webers. In this category Weber is 2nd to none - amazing! I had an issue with my lid - called CS - replaced immediately - no questions asked. Cheers!
Dave. I so appreciate the level-headed response, and I do agree with everything said. I just felt it was important to put out what I felt is a flaw in the way the SF handles grease. I feel if Weber would give some sort of plate for low and slow that would change everything. Even if they included a few long grease catcher pans in the box would have changed my review. but they didn't. I have a Beef Short Rib recipe coming and the SF really did an awesome job with color and flavor. Real awesome. The main reason I may have to let this pit go is the burn mark on my deck. Was that just a fluke, who knows?
Thanks Tommy! Hey, in the end it’s all about enjoying cooking great BBQ and sharing with family and friends, no matter what pit you use. I love beef ribs - one of my favorite items to cook - really look forward to your video. Keep up the awesome work my friend!
Great review, grease management is a huge concern along with the biscuit test video shows Weber failed
So much potential! I think ego gets in the way!
@@thegalleryBBQ every other manufacturer has figured it out
Great review Tommy……..I would never buy a Weber pellet grill for the very reason of grease mgmt…….Weber needs to correct that or get out of the pellet grill business period……just my opinion!
Robert. Agree. If Weber would drop the ego and include a grease catcher pan, it would change everything. Grease+Pellet Dust+Flame=disaster! lol
@@thegalleryBBQ Tommy wait til you get you hands on the LSG pellet grill…..you won’t believe it! Any time you want to shoot over to my place you can use it and see for yourself….. I would love that!
@@Rbouch Where do you live??
@@thegalleryBBQ Bensalem Pa
@@Rbouch 50 min... I'd love to grab my cameras and come up and film an episode...
Having had both brands of grills, I can safely say you're definitely overreacting to the grease management system on the Weber. I do agree that the design could be better, but saying that it needs to be cleaned after every cook is a major overreaction. I have personally had one for over 2 years now and I have never had a single grease fire. I clean it after about every dozen cooks or so, which I'm pretty confident you should do with any girl.
Thanks for watching! The Weber is an awesome pit...
You poured oil on the smokefire and water on the other one? You lost me after that
The water shows the flow of the design. Thats all. Thanks for watching.
Don’t forget the price difference. The 1100 is even cheaper from pit boss.
Fredrick. You got that right!
The feeder/hopper on the Weber Smokerfire is garbage. It jams all the time. Not some of the time, or most of the time - all the f-ing time. Weber makes a great kettle grill, good gas grill and thats it. the Smokefire is a waste of money. Pit boss 10/10.
Agreed.
Weber recommends using a pan to catch grease. Doing that, I've never had a single issue with my Weber Smokefire and honestly recommend it to anyone. Bottom line is, use any smoker intelligently and you will have great results. Use it foolishly and you will have terrible results. I use my Weber for smoking, grilling, and even baking with great results, and no fires!
IMHO then Weber should have included catch grease pans in the 1299 package. That would have changed everything if they did. Other then that, AWESOME PIT!
Love my EX6. Has turned out great food since last July. I can see why some of the quirks of it would turn people off though. As far as grease management people make way to big of a deal about it. I'm pretty bad about cleaning it and not 1 grease fire. Talking 8 to 10 cooks
Hinds, I appreciate your level-headed response to my review. I wish Weber would have included a drip catcher pan in the box as that would have changed everything! Cheers brother!
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Cheers!
weber hands down lol dont even have to watch the video ...
You got that right!!! lol
Middle aged stoner review? Wow, holy tie die tie shirt batman...
If you hadn't experienced the 70s. You'll never know😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Comical. Had to be one of the worst comparison videos I’ve seen. All that matters in the end is how it cooks. Like you I have both. The Weber is the better overall cooker. I’ve gone from smoking butts to searing steaks w no clean out and never a grease issue. I challenge you to do identical cooks and a blind taste test. If you don’t cheat the Weber will win.
Appreciate you watching. Ok. What would you like me to cook??
@@thegalleryBBQ Cricket's... 😆 🤣 Great video bother.
Flavorizor bars is crock of shit,total fail,get a Rectec
I just may get one.