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  • čas přidán 8. 08. 2024
  • Coverage of the absurd history and lore of Kinnikuman!

Komentáře • 133

  • @MasterGamer15
    @MasterGamer15 Před 2 lety +90

    oyy my guy you forgot to mention one of the key reasons why Kinnikuman (the manga) was so good. The creators of kinnikuman have always had their fans involved with the story of the manga. if you look back at every time a new character or characters were introduced they came with a "Submitted by *** from ****" or "Based on a submission by **** from ****" which is mind boggling to say the least. The only original character I would say in this manga is kinnikuman as terryman/robin mask/ warsman/ ramenman etc etc were all submitted by the fans. And one of the greatest bit of fun fact I could give is that the involvement of the Ashuraman and Sunshine in the tag team arc was voted by the fans as they had won a dream team poll a few weeks prior to the beginning of that arc. Even the 2011 continuation kept the tradition of accepting fan submissions as characters in the story.

    • @lewisaino
      @lewisaino Před rokem +1

      The 1st Fan Poll

    • @takehirotaniguchi6271
      @takehirotaniguchi6271 Před rokem +2

      Thats crazy, I remember Foxbox/4kids did a fanart promotion where fans could submit their own wrestlers they created and they would show it throughout the commercials of ultimate muscle.

    • @some_guy117
      @some_guy117 Před 2 dny

      Always makes me wonder too, do the people who made the character have full rights to use it how the want(like public domain) or is it strictly under the creator of the manga who own it. And on a other note since it’s a contest to have the character be in the manga and not a contest of like money or something, would there be a contract or whatever or is it just a situation where they saw something they liked and let it in

  • @shauqiharris2772
    @shauqiharris2772 Před rokem +22

    Fun fact : Kinnikuman himself is voiced by Akira Kamiya, who is famous for voicing Kenshiro from Hokuto No Ken and Ryo Saeba from City Hunter etc.

  • @SaikoYTube
    @SaikoYTube Před 3 lety +108

    Hello, I am the founder and leader of Saiko no Fansub, i am not sure if you know my work but I am currently translating Kinnikuman where HnG stopped doing it.
    Also the Throne Competition arc. I really liked this video. and you are absolutely right, Kinnikuman is probably the father of all shonen. At least he is the one who stablished a shonen formula that has been followed up by almost any other relevant shonen jump anime since then.

    • @strikerstar1958
      @strikerstar1958  Před 3 lety +7

      I'm flattered to recieve such a compliment from a fixture of the fandom such as yourself!

    • @RyogaEchizen
      @RyogaEchizen Před 2 lety +1

      jesus dude, thank you so much!!!

    • @brokeneck
      @brokeneck Před 2 lety

      Where can I follow your work? I’d love to finish watching the series it’s such a joy for me

    • @kingj9664
      @kingj9664 Před rokem

      @@strikerstar1958 Not sure you know this but there is word of a new kuniku man anime being made. I'm not sure if it will follow the original key nickel man count like what anime's been doing right now with getting some of their older properties and remaking them or will it continue with what's going on in the monga because the monga actually still is going on

    • @juanitajones7169
      @juanitajones7169 Před 29 dny

      You're a, star. 🌟 1:08

  • @LatitudeSky
    @LatitudeSky Před rokem +13

    There WAS a plan in the 80s to bring the Kinikkuman anime to the US TV. A deal was done and plans were set for a dub to tie in with the Muscle toys. But then the import licensor sat down and actually watched the show. They bought it sight unseen based on the toys already being sold. Something about throwing an opponent into a blenderman and blending the first one to death made the writers tell the production company there was NO way to make the show 'safe' for US afternoons. They gave up.

  • @levisamom5069
    @levisamom5069 Před rokem +13

    Kinnikuman was also influential in pro wrestling that there's even a move named after it...the kinniku buster later dubbed the muscle buster in the same vain as ultimate muscle was...which was the finishing move kinnikuman used where he would pick up the opponent upside down on his shoulders, grabbing the legs and folding the body in and the sitting or kneeling down impacting the neck

  • @fantoboy
    @fantoboy Před 3 lety +12

    Loved this video, thank you for making it. Lived in Japan in 84-85 and was obsessed with Kinnikuman

    • @A.D.Hayche.D
      @A.D.Hayche.D Před 11 měsíci

      My first experience of fighting anime was Ashita no joe. I had a video of it with no subtitles lol. Was Ashita no Joe popular in Japan in the time you lived there? I think the first part was aired in the 70s but the second part of ashita no joe came out in the 80s. I watched kinnikuman but i can't remember where but i remember it used to be on at like 6am after power rangers.

  • @fidelgarcia2224
    @fidelgarcia2224 Před rokem +7

    I liked watching Ultimate Muscle growing and was surprised several years later to find out it pulled a DBZ by skipping the first series

  • @mistergremm735
    @mistergremm735 Před 3 lety +10

    it's funny that kinnikuman was localized in french shortly as muscleman both the anime and manga, but the moment brocken JR apeared it was faced backlashed and cancelled
    it's funny that author stated that every time they meet french fans they tell them that that Brocken jr is cool xd

  • @teken_nation822
    @teken_nation822 Před 2 lety +17

    Currently watching the the original Kinnikuman and it's surprising to see how much DNA it spliced into other anime. This is by far Shonen in it's primordial state.
    It's amazing that a wrestling anime is what brought the formula of Shonen to other series. It always bugged why I feel like any modern anime I watch, it feels all too familiar.
    Not to say Demon Slayer or MHA are bad, moreso, it's been tried and true to what Shonen is.
    I'd personally like to see a studio tackle rebooting the original Kinnikuman. Just to see how well can modernity adapt this old Shonen.
    Thanks for the history lesson, surprised at how much there was to talk about!

  • @CrystalTigerclaw
    @CrystalTigerclaw Před rokem +4

    I came here after the announcement of the new Kinnikuman anime project! I’m excited to see what they have in store for this!

  • @marplatense31
    @marplatense31 Před rokem +19

    In my opinion: Kinnikuman, Fist of the North Star and Dragon Ball are the the most important shonen battle manga. Glad to see this series is getting rebooted!

  • @C0ldIron
    @C0ldIron Před rokem +9

    I think one of the reasons I have an easier time accepting Broken JR is that in the WWE we had heals like Iron Sheik and Nicolai Volcov as well as others who’s gimmick would be to be some foreign villain who was a supporter of political enemies that American was fighting against.

    • @strikerstar1958
      @strikerstar1958  Před rokem +3

      That's a brilliant parallel! Wish I had thought to address something like that.

  • @GenericProtagonist118
    @GenericProtagonist118 Před rokem +2

    Kinnikuman's evolution is like if The Tick later on got the tone of the 90's X-Men cartoon.

  • @Confussed-Oddish
    @Confussed-Oddish Před 7 měsíci +2

    Kenshiro owes more Violence Jack if anything.

  • @zachariaravenheart
    @zachariaravenheart Před 3 lety +8

    I actually still have some old figures from this show.

  • @PaddyMurphy555
    @PaddyMurphy555 Před 3 lety +15

    This was a really good video especially your take on Brocken Jr I never thought of him in that light I always assumed he was depicted as a Nazi due to it being a different time

    • @joecrazy9896
      @joecrazy9896 Před 2 lety +1

      I just chalked it up as just another ridiculous ga by having a "good guy nazi", kinda like what Jojo did with Stroheim.

    • @leoluster5424
      @leoluster5424 Před 2 lety +3

      that segment is at fault, the best you can say is creators wanted to have Germany representation in the form of a wrestler or just an exaggerated German wrestler nothing more, and Jr. was just meant to be the "Revenge bad" theme and thanks to his popularity or pre-planning he made it into the main cast. i am just starting the Nisei continuation so i'll se if he fibbed there.

  • @Egalemanly
    @Egalemanly Před 10 měsíci +2

    Kinnikuman is getting a reboot dudes !

  • @MightySchmeat
    @MightySchmeat Před 3 lety +22

    Good video but I have to disagree with how you described Brocken in the video, same as people trying to argue the same with Stroheim from JoJo. People seem to willingly forget that Japan was allied with Germany during WWII and there's generally no stigma or taboo surrounding the topic in Japan.

    • @MightySchmeat
      @MightySchmeat Před 3 lety +16

      Like I can understand not wanting to admit you like a character you fundamentally disagree with, but it comes with the territory of enjoying media from other cultures, and to dismiss it entirely as being "outdated" or "uneducated" because you expect to see your exact moral standards mirrored by totally different cultures is just naive.

    • @alexstergiou247
      @alexstergiou247 Před 3 lety +1

      Something unrelated:I saw you arguing with that idiot down in the comment section who claims RNK started it all with stupid arguments like tournaments,fighting styles etc. without doing proper research on these topics that have existed since since ancient times.

    • @jeremybriggs6951
      @jeremybriggs6951 Před rokem

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      @jeremybriggs6951 Před rokem

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  • @kaioh187
    @kaioh187 Před 3 lety +7

    I just recently purchased the entire first series, all of the movies, tv special, and the Scramble for the Throne series of Kinnikuman and it is awesome!!!!

  • @adamhayche8412
    @adamhayche8412 Před 2 lety +5

    This was a great vid. I remember watching ultimate muscle when I was younger, and being interested in what I now know as the legacy characters from the old series, and how they had their own histories. I like'd your small character analysis of both Brocken Jr, and Sunshine, as I'd never given much thought to them before.

  • @toppu10animes
    @toppu10animes Před rokem +1

    This is an incredible video, you deserve much more subscribers, please don't ever stop

  • @WeirdWonderful
    @WeirdWonderful Před rokem +1

    My favourite bit of continuity nonsense was that one machine handing out powerup items during a match, which randomly had a spot on the back to fit Ashuraman's crown....when he was not involved with it's creation in any way and wasn't even supposed to be present for the fight.
    And it not only actually *did something* but was the most OP thing you could do with said machine, randomly giving you all the powerups at once.

  • @Cybertoy00
    @Cybertoy00 Před 6 měsíci +1

    On Brocken Jr, in the manga, he first appeared during the Planet Rakka arc. He was one of the choujin chosen to help fight the space samurai by Beansman...along with Ramenman. Brocken made it clear that while he wanted vengeance against Ramenman for Brockenman's death, he would be willing to work with the Chinese choujin to save Rakka. Even when he wanted to avenge his father, Brocken Jr. was still a heroic figure. In his image song "Red Rain of Berlin", Brocken admits that Brockman was "A German devil".

  • @RyogaEchizen
    @RyogaEchizen Před 2 lety +3

    awesome video, i needed this!

  • @lewisaino
    @lewisaino Před rokem +2

    To think Chile was the only country that tried to spread Muscle

  • @ProductionsFromBeyon
    @ProductionsFromBeyon Před 14 dny +1

    I really hope the original manga gets an English print someday. I don’t think it’ll ever happen, but seven seas “Manga Classic Collection” takes chances in historically important manga that isn’t appropriate to todays standards and I could see it fitting in that brand.

  • @coldmajima0068
    @coldmajima0068 Před 3 lety +4

    OMG a new kinnikuman video this amazing thank u so much for spending word for this classic Shonen, also I'm surprised u didn't mention the satanic stuff!🤣 one of many reasons why I love this series!❤💪

  • @naufalhakimi1558
    @naufalhakimi1558 Před 2 lety +3

    Kinnikuman predicted Ultra Instinct lol, or he invented it in his fight with Warsman.

  • @TheBusinessCat
    @TheBusinessCat Před 2 lety +1

    Great video! I remember the show as a kid and was great to learn more about it though your video!

  • @suuppeerrrbakanky
    @suuppeerrrbakanky Před rokem +1

    It was an "only saw Z, hu dis?" situation.

  • @ColeFam
    @ColeFam Před 3 lety +3

    As the great Adam Sessler once said, "Dik-Dik Van-Dik, the true Ultimate Muscle"
    I really wish I'd gotten to watch more of this show, but it was really fun when I caught it. Didn't know it had such a storied history, thanks for sharing!

  • @Mokey_MokeyLordofPuns
    @Mokey_MokeyLordofPuns Před rokem +1

    Ah yes Brocken Jr. Killer of Dubs

  • @cam0573
    @cam0573 Před 3 lety +5

    #REVIVEKINNIKUMAN

  • @dashingdreww1185
    @dashingdreww1185 Před 3 lety +3

    Great video !

  • @myang12003
    @myang12003 Před 6 měsíci +1

    If the original kinnikuman anime was released in the US, would it simply be called “M.U.S.L.E.”, or “ultimate muscle origins”?

  • @louissanchez4782
    @louissanchez4782 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Still one of my favorite anime and manga plus ultimate muscle love them

  • @A.D.Hayche.D
    @A.D.Hayche.D Před 11 měsíci +1

    My first experience of fighting anime was Ashita no joe. I had a video of it with no subtitles lol.

  • @007psyren
    @007psyren Před 2 lety +3

    If jojo can get licensed i have a glimmer of hope for kinnikuman i really hope discotek or somebody gets the license in my lifetime😢

    • @SlapstickGenius23
      @SlapstickGenius23 Před 2 lety +1

      I wonder if Seven Seas will license the Kinnikuman manga into English?

  • @DavidTheCastle
    @DavidTheCastle Před rokem

    Great video. I am excited for the new anime in production. Hopefully it brings a new fire to the franchise and makes it popular so we can see more Kinnikuman.

  • @batusaisq
    @batusaisq Před 26 dny

    great video man thanks

  • @anibalxtla
    @anibalxtla Před 2 lety +2

    the coolest characters are ramenman, brocken Jr and Robin mask.

  • @misfitzombiegor9594
    @misfitzombiegor9594 Před 2 lety +6

    I was a huge fan of ultimate muscle as a kid and it still has a big place in my heart! I was so upset to find kinnikuman was only sub for a couple episodes! I was wondering were you were able to find stuff to watch or read kinnikuman?

    • @Cfowlerx
      @Cfowlerx Před rokem

      Just a heads up. I just bought the complete series of ultimate muscle it was just released last week on bluray

  • @xavierrandall
    @xavierrandall Před rokem +1

    I used to collect these.

  • @ExMedal
    @ExMedal Před rokem +1

    I wonder how Broken Jr will be implemented in the new series

  • @TheBlackOtaku
    @TheBlackOtaku Před rokem +1

    Fist of The North Star,Kinnikuman and Dragon Ball are the 3 god father’s of shonen battle genera in Shonen Jump.

  • @alexstergiou247
    @alexstergiou247 Před 3 lety +7

    The lore is nullified(especially of Nisei's)thanks to the continuation of the story with 2011.That's why Nisei needs a rewriting after they finish with the 2011 story,so they can fix the lore.

    • @bull1566
      @bull1566 Před 3 lety

      I really hope that happens that'd be very cool

  • @momsberettas9576
    @momsberettas9576 Před 2 lety

    I saw this as a kid and just found it again! I was starting to think it was a fake memory!

  • @ValleyOfTheWindFan06
    @ValleyOfTheWindFan06 Před 3 měsíci

    Kinnikuman Could Run So The Other Shonens Could Run And Fight.

  • @LordProteus
    @LordProteus Před 2 lety +2

    One of my favourite series'. The manga is still going. Sunshine and The Ninja finally got wins. :D

  • @gibilazer4677
    @gibilazer4677 Před 3 lety +1

    I love this show so much, I've made the character profiles in my channel in TH.

  • @samuraiforever9120
    @samuraiforever9120 Před 2 lety +2

    The only worse thing Brocken Jr. did was arranging the murder of Jade's family. and later adopting him so he can have a pupil claiming his parents were murdered by anti chojin xenophobes. despite this there father son relationship shines despite this.

  • @jaygomex
    @jaygomex Před rokem

    These were the days what nostalgia man feel like crying

  • @LunarAntic
    @LunarAntic Před 2 lety +1

    7:12 this dialogue kicks ass

  • @austinmorrison6953
    @austinmorrison6953 Před rokem +1

    I’m desperate to find the full anime somewhere to watch. Especially scramble for the throne and the original subbed version of Nisei.

  • @heroicgangster9981
    @heroicgangster9981 Před rokem +1

    Kinnikuman Nisei/Ultimate Muscle dvd release announcement hypeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

  • @i-yell-a-lot4906
    @i-yell-a-lot4906 Před rokem +1

    I HOPE THEY ANIMATE THE 3RD SERIES.

  • @TripleDoubleDiamond
    @TripleDoubleDiamond Před rokem +2

    Kid muscle

  • @WeirdWonderful
    @WeirdWonderful Před rokem +1

    Why does Kinnikuman in the game sound like Homer Simpson ?

  • @RetroZeivuGaming
    @RetroZeivuGaming Před 2 lety +2

    You should read the Ultimate Muscle manga. The cartoon changed a lot of stuff from the manga.

  • @Majinbeck_exe
    @Majinbeck_exe Před 3 lety +1

    Trust me. When an animw remake comes out it will become popular

  • @GenericProtagonist118
    @GenericProtagonist118 Před rokem +1

    THERE'S A NEW ANIME ANNOUNCED!!!!!!!

  • @shadowrule2010
    @shadowrule2010 Před rokem +1

    I love the serie

  • @jaygomex
    @jaygomex Před rokem

    Damn this shot made me nostalgic

  • @monsterjustinmyers604
    @monsterjustinmyers604 Před 2 lety +4

    It's kinda sucks because we don't see kinnikuman no more in united states of america because it's not huge no more not lot fans of kinnikuman & license issue. then not lot Merchandise & product of ultimate muscle maybe near future we see ultimate muscle making comeback soon but times will tell. But till then Cross my fingers if we ever see kinnikuman returns to anime.

    • @jeremybriggs6951
      @jeremybriggs6951 Před 2 lety

      This series deserve a lot of recognition for being one of the main inspiration of what we get at it today action anime. I wish something good would happen to the series right now.

  • @FiggsNeughton
    @FiggsNeughton Před 10 měsíci +2

    10:54 "But I'd like to give the benefit of the doubt that he'd be handled more tactfully today." Today a character like that in any media would just be a mindless evil monster constantly humiliated by a team of diversity hire heroes. There is nothing tactful about our era.

  • @samuraiforever9120
    @samuraiforever9120 Před 2 lety +1

    I remember fox box and all its quirkiness. Ultimate Muscle was intro into kinikuman and got confused further by like how DBZ got big first then we got dragon ball. so far no kinikuman anime adaption.

  • @user-op6kt8pg9y
    @user-op6kt8pg9y Před 2 lety

    I remember ultimaye muscle perfectly but never the original as in the UK we never got it either but as for ultimate muscle I've got to say its one of the best animes especially for the fact they never dragged it out like most animes nowadays and also even as a kid i saw the jaeger brockenmann nazi mirroring but it does help contextualise their situations from what you see in ultimate muscle from jaeger it does make brockenmann look very evil, the whole tournament arc was so good for me.

  • @kerrygligorovic9758
    @kerrygligorovic9758 Před 2 lety +5

    It's a shame that the anime company couldn't reboot Kinnikuman series because that would be interesting of seeing the characters drawing developement from the same writers and creators from the second series of Kinnikuman Nisei or I would say Ultimate Muscle. Just like the other anime like Sailor moon 1991 and reboot of Sailor moon Crystal 2014 and the same goes for Shaman King 2021.

  • @manhwafanatic
    @manhwafanatic Před 27 dny

    the shonen series that was actually for boys and not older teens

  • @ayonhussainforever9390

    Used to watch this on JetiX now Disney XD

  • @SPMask
    @SPMask Před 26 dny

    Guess who I modeled my youtube name from?

  • @YaBoiMo
    @YaBoiMo Před 2 lety +1

    Incridble video

  • @axelmok4_channel391
    @axelmok4_channel391 Před 3 lety +3

    Oof those dubbed voices are nothing like what the Sub aimed for.

  • @jeremybriggs6951
    @jeremybriggs6951 Před 3 lety +3

    actually, ring ni kakero debut two years before Kinnikuman And it was Shonen jump first ever mega hit. The company was not doing well financially and this series alone save their asses and became the staple of what we see in today’s modern battle Shonen. But Kinnikuman did step it up From the previous series that I mentioned in many ways.

    • @MightySchmeat
      @MightySchmeat Před 3 lety +3

      Ring Ni Kakero was a sports series first and foremost and almost totally removed from what battle shonen ended up turning into. Your argument is like saying Ashita no Joe or Tiger Mask are directly responsible for the genre being where it is today.

    • @jeremybriggs6951
      @jeremybriggs6951 Před 3 lety +1

      @@MightySchmeat Kinnikuman is a “Sports” title first and foremost also and people categorize it as A Shonen battle manga for obvious reasons just like Ring ni kakero for what we see in today Series. So I don’t know where you getting at man.

    • @MightySchmeat
      @MightySchmeat Před 3 lety +3

      @@jeremybriggs6951 you're really gonna pretend Kinnikuman is a grounded sports series like Ring No Kakero to try and support your argument? Lmao

    • @jeremybriggs6951
      @jeremybriggs6951 Před 3 lety

      @@MightySchmeat Do you have any proof that ring ni kakero is a ground it sport series too? Don’t waste my time with this, it literally have projectile techniques. I don’t think he really did watch the The show the way you think you do. And where did I say that Kinnikuman is a normal wrestling show?

    • @MightySchmeat
      @MightySchmeat Před 3 lety +2

      @@jeremybriggs6951 bro the stuff you're talking about was added to the 2003 show to add visual flair. The manga was literally a normal boxing series. And don't backpedal by saying you didn't say Kinnikuman was a "normal" sports series you're literally destroying your own credibility lmao

  • @runvalddarkstone5517
    @runvalddarkstone5517 Před rokem +1

    6:40 Yeah... But, in europe we had the firsrt or two first arcs of Kinnikuman dubbed... If there's one thing i know : 4kids dubs are dumb and loosy and tends to ruin the drama inside. Sometimes, the dub even kill a character completely. The only merit i can found is that it helps bring anime up, thus growing a fanbase that may, or may not, search for the VOST. For a comparison, just try looking the two intros ( the Kinnikuman nisei one is far far better.) In France, we had a dub, not the absolute best, but they, at least tried to stay on focus regarding the character of the protagonists.

  • @professorsponge1554
    @professorsponge1554 Před 2 lety +3

    Jojo is tame compared to Kinnikuman.

  • @MrRuff-cc3lg
    @MrRuff-cc3lg Před 11 měsíci +1

    Great video!