Battle of Pourovers | Scott Rao vs James Hoffmann vs Tetsu Kasuya vs April Coffee

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  • Today I'm reviewing and comparing V60 recipes from Scott Rao, James Hoffmann, Tetsu Kasuya and April Coffee!
    0:00 Intro
    0:09 Scott Rao
    15 g of medium fine coffee to 250 g of 97° water
    1 - Rinse filter and preheat V60
    2 - Pre wet with 45g water ( about 3 times weight of grounds)
    3 - Gently excavate with spoon
    4 - At 45 seconds: Main pour up to 250 g (Fairly high pouring height)
    5 - Gently stir around the rim
    6 - At 1 minute and 45 seconds swirl the V60
    7 - Drawdown 2 minutes and 50 seconds
    • (old) V60 Method. See ...
    1:54 James Hoffmann
    15 g of medium fine coffee to 250 g of 100° water
    1 - Rinse filter and preheat V60
    2 - Dump in coffee grounds and create a well
    3 - Start timer and pre wet with 2x the weight of the coffee (Here 30 g)
    4 - Immediately swirl the V60
    5 - At 45 seconds pour up to 60 % of final weight (Here 150 g)
    6 - When 60% reached switch to a slower pour, pouring until final amount
    7 - Grab a spoon and stir clockwise and anticlockwise
    8 - Swirl the brewer for a more even extraction
    9 - Drawdown 3 minutes
    • The Ultimate V60 Techn...
    3:41 Tetsu Kasuya
    1 - 1:12 brew ratio: 25 g finely ground coffee to 300 g of water at 95 96 degrees
    2 - Start the timer and pour 300 g of water in 15 seconds. First 10 seconds in a circle pour and last 5 in a center pour. You pouring should be quite aggressive.
    3 - Drawdown should be around 1 minute and 30 seconds.
    • Coffee with April Epis...
    4:58 April Coffee
    The recipe is dosed 13 grams of coffee to 200 grams of water. Grind size is relatively coarse and water temperature sits at 90 degrees.
    Pouring consists of 4 50 g pours. Each pour sits for 30 seconds.
    0 - 50 g pour
    30 - 50 g pour
    1.00 - 50 g pour
    1.30 - 50 g pour
    2.30 - Drawdown
    • Our Current V60 Recipe...
    6:01 Sum up
    If you have any questions you can leave them in the comments below.

Komentáře • 393

  • @coffeewithcarl1779
    @coffeewithcarl1779  Před 3 lety +6

    Coffee with Carl is now on instagram!
    instagram.com/coffeewcarl/
    Or at coffeewcarl

    • @PrescottWilson
      @PrescottWilson Před 2 lety

      Can you please do a review of Tales coffee no bloom single pour recipe? It's very interesting and one I've been using lately with the Hario switch, "stalling the fall" at to 30 seconds then stirring with a chop stick. Delicious!

  • @ram_bam
    @ram_bam Před 3 lety +10

    Very well done! I love your calm style and brevity.
    Edit: I wanted to add that your summaries and links in the description are also top notch!

  • @GRed-ir7rc
    @GRed-ir7rc Před 3 lety +2

    I love you for writing out the times and information for each segment. You are GREAT! Thank you.

  • @dpalma9
    @dpalma9 Před 3 lety +8

    Great video! I like much more when the coffee techniques are explained right to the point, without long explanations. Thanks!

  • @coffeewithapril
    @coffeewithapril Před 3 lety +247

    Awesome material, thank you for including us.

  • @coffeechronicler
    @coffeechronicler Před 3 lety +87

    Great video Carl! But judging from the t-shirt you were already on team April to begin with 😉

  • @impaque
    @impaque Před 3 lety +33

    Pour so aggressive that I called the cops on it.

  • @michaelwang9400
    @michaelwang9400 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for compiling! Looking forward with dabbling with each of these methods :)

  • @benjamintenbuuren9652
    @benjamintenbuuren9652 Před 3 lety

    Great video! This is the first comparison I've came across. Very helpful!

  • @ahikernamedgq
    @ahikernamedgq Před 3 lety

    This is a great video! Super helpful with a thorough break down. Great job! Thanks for the video.

  • @DOMINATORsChannel
    @DOMINATORsChannel Před 2 lety

    Great video. Short and precise, no wasting of the viewer's time. Thanks

  • @Viewsk8
    @Viewsk8 Před 5 měsíci

    You're the MVP for recipes in the description, definitely bookmarking this video. Also really liked the calm vibe while explaining each of the methods. Overall great stuff, thanks for sharing!

  • @DJCBX
    @DJCBX Před 3 lety +7

    Great video Carl! I have all my favorite recipes in one spot now!

  • @Megaloinde
    @Megaloinde Před 3 lety +8

    This video is amazing! April technique resulted in the best v60 brew I've made so far

  • @doinkindonut
    @doinkindonut Před 3 lety

    Very good video Carl! Also the description below is very convenient!

  • @BaWsDEwiE
    @BaWsDEwiE Před 3 lety +7

    Damn, this video was such a nice change of pace for me, I have been using the James Hoffmann method but will try the other ones for sure. Keep up the great content!

  • @jilliemcnilly2037
    @jilliemcnilly2037 Před 3 lety

    Ohhhh Lovely comparison of the styles! I especially love how precise your descriptions are of the resulting brew. Awesome! Also, I enjoy your super chill video style. Subscribed and followed on IG!

  • @paryzfilip
    @paryzfilip Před 3 lety +2

    Okay, now that is amazing :D
    I loved that comparison! Subscribed!

  • @halfninjahalfmonkey
    @halfninjahalfmonkey Před 3 lety

    Great stuff. I'm also a big fan of the April brewer. Looking forward to more videos from you.

  • @MirrorCoffeeRoasters
    @MirrorCoffeeRoasters Před 3 lety +2

    Carl! This was wonderful. Keep up the great content!

  • @TheInexistant
    @TheInexistant Před 3 lety

    LEGEND, well done lad, love the vids.

  • @grahamarcher2729
    @grahamarcher2729 Před 3 lety +2

    Thank you for sharing your video. The April coffee pour over method looks interesting. I shall give that a try!

  • @LuckyNumber48
    @LuckyNumber48 Před 3 lety +2

    Great video. Good walk-through, nice tempo, simple setup and a nice look and feel of your video. Well done. Subscribed.

  • @alwaysdialingin5413
    @alwaysdialingin5413 Před 3 lety

    Great video 👏🏼👏🏼
    Always testing/dialing in different recipes is definitely one of the funniest part of making coffee imho
    Keep up the good work ✌🏼

  • @alyssawyklige2035
    @alyssawyklige2035 Před 3 lety

    Very nice video! I look forward to trying the recipes. Thank you 😀

  • @Fortississississimo
    @Fortississississimo Před 3 lety

    A very professional and informative video. Great camera work showing the methods; very clear, concise and helpful information presented very well. Great job! :)

  • @damienhallsworth3314
    @damienhallsworth3314 Před 3 lety +1

    I'm a big fan of Hoffman's method but you've convinced me to try April's. Thanks for the home brewing inspiration!

  • @JaradPetroske
    @JaradPetroske Před 2 lety

    Great video, thanks. I'm going to make all variations starting tomorrow morning.

  • @Atm34
    @Atm34 Před 3 lety +1

    Great video! I really think your channel has huge potential, keep it up!

  • @bangTguh2.0
    @bangTguh2.0 Před 3 lety

    I was just having my afternoon coffee with James Hoffman brew method. I'll try other methods tomorrow. Thanks for the video.

  • @Abudness
    @Abudness Před 3 lety

    Insanely good very informative vid, thanks a lot 👍🏼

  • @CarusKyle
    @CarusKyle Před 3 lety +3

    I like this format, to the point right away.

  • @JQModels
    @JQModels Před 3 lety

    Wow this is very well done. I'll have to try them all. Love the tasting notes.

  • @cebukitty
    @cebukitty Před 2 lety

    thank you so much for sharing your video. it's simple with clear instructions. perfect for newbies like me :)

  • @collectionofsensations
    @collectionofsensations Před 3 lety +7

    Carl i sincerely want to thank you. I have been using the Hoffman recipe for like a year, and had such a hard time finding the balance. Your video made me realise i did it wrong in one stage. After 1:15 i have been waiting for 1:45 and continued to pour at that time point. Instead of keep pouring but slower and more gentle. I really looking forward to brew a cup of coffee now knowing what i did wrong. 🙏

    • @Lyander25
      @Lyander25 Před 2 lety

      Any updates on how the adjustment to technique worked out for you? I'm more or less just getting into making my own filter coffee properly so am still rather amazed at how small nuances can influence the resulting cup

    • @collectionofsensations
      @collectionofsensations Před 2 lety +2

      @@Lyander25 I have actually changed method :-). But it worked wonders to follow Carls instructions. One important insight i have learned is that when it tastes sour you might have gone to course on the grind, and if its bitter it might be to fine grind. At least its a good starting point. For me the balance is all about grind size and pour effectiveness (rotation speed, flow speed). Either changing the pour or the grind (when using Hario V60 because Kalita evens the pour out a bit). Brewing methods affects sour/bitter results a lot. When you are affected by channeling, water running in small tunnels through the coffee bed instead of extracting it even, you get a kind of sour empty taste. And when you pour for example too slow with a fine grind, the coffee might be over extracted (But not necessarily!! :-)). So its important to kind of find a method and work on it, learn how changes affect taste. What happened when i poured more aggressiv? Stearing up the coffee bed? What if i use courser coffee? And then you have all the small things to worry about like cleaning the filter, grinder and storing the beans at a good location etc. :D Its a fun craft! Others please fill in if i missed something or misunderstood something!

  • @BiGreDNoSecoMpAny
    @BiGreDNoSecoMpAny Před 3 lety +2

    I really enjoyed my 19grams Coffee X-mas calender, I hope you liked it too :-)
    My go-to method is the James Hoffmann method, but I will try the other ones you presented here as well. Thanks for sharing!

  • @Pigenio
    @Pigenio Před 3 lety +9

    That was a very nice video, I'm surprised no one had made the comparison yet. I would suggest adding a brief summary of the resulting taste in the description. Hope your channel grows!!

  • @Babaye2
    @Babaye2 Před 3 lety

    Nice video man, real concise and helpful 👍

  • @6minus3minus2
    @6minus3minus2 Před 3 lety +36

    My personal experience is also that the April method is the most delicious and the coffee actually tastes like the notes on the bag. I finally tasted the jasmine tea or orange peel. Other methods were either too bitter for me or too bland.

    • @ram_bam
      @ram_bam Před 3 lety +1

      I feel like I'm still getting my grind size wrong. What grind size would be good on a Baratza Encore or 1Zpresso JX?

    • @ryurenyama
      @ryurenyama Před 3 lety +1

      ​@@ram_bam I dont brew with a V60 but for the Chemex I use around 22 to 24 on my Baratza Encore. Lence Hedrick brought out a Video with his v60 method and he says the grind size for the v60 its around 12 or 13 on a Baratza Encore. I would try his grind size and when its to bitter or to watery you always can adjust the grind size from there.

    • @ram_bam
      @ram_bam Před 3 lety +1

      @@ryurenyama Thanks! This is helpful.

    • @ryurenyama
      @ryurenyama Před 3 lety +1

      @@ram_bam no problem, I can highly recommend Lences videos for more information on pour over, expresso and more, cuz he explains a lot of useful coffee theory very nicely. In his v60 video he also mentions the grind size he uses in microns if you really wanna be precise xD

    • @ram_bam
      @ram_bam Před 3 lety +1

      @@ryurenyama Yeah Lance is great. I've been using his pour over technique exclusively as of late. He brings the passion!

  • @ccnt89
    @ccnt89 Před 3 lety

    Thank you 🙏 brilliant presentation 👌

  • @Blubb40000
    @Blubb40000 Před 3 lety +6

    I wanted to search for some alternate V60 recipes to the one of James Hoffmann!
    So I am actually super gald that this video got recommended to me!
    Very well done video!!

  • @jakeralph93
    @jakeralph93 Před 3 lety

    Great video! Helped me with my V60, thank you!

  • @labcoat22
    @labcoat22 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for this now I know what I am doing this weekend

  • @Alicezrl
    @Alicezrl Před 3 lety +6

    I love this young man's videos :)

  • @tomgreen2058
    @tomgreen2058 Před 2 lety

    This was really useful, I was actually looking for a video showing how to do a smaller cup using the Hoffman method

  • @DanielKarpathios
    @DanielKarpathios Před 3 lety

    Great video. I’ll go try these out 👊

  • @alaskavaper966
    @alaskavaper966 Před 3 lety

    Your video is a most excellent, and concise pour-over production I have yet seen, amigo. Count me as a new subscriber.

  • @PalEllingsen
    @PalEllingsen Před 3 lety

    Thanks for the great video!

  • @smtesta
    @smtesta Před 2 lety

    👏 great vid!! 🙌

  • @jrd9313
    @jrd9313 Před 6 měsíci

    Great video, thank you.

  • @du1212z
    @du1212z Před 3 lety +3

    Great work on the video! Feels like a more easier recipe to follow than the original counterparts

  • @MartinUnderwood
    @MartinUnderwood Před 3 lety

    Nice. Definitely gonna try these out tomorrow

  • @sillem4337
    @sillem4337 Před 3 lety +1

    Cool video, I was on Hoffman side for the whole time but all recipes caught my attention, and will definetly try them out.

  • @itsxris
    @itsxris Před 3 lety +3

    Great Video!

  • @CoffeeNo0b0514
    @CoffeeNo0b0514 Před rokem

    Good job on the video!

  • @hoohoomanlol9513
    @hoohoomanlol9513 Před 3 lety

    This is actually a really cool video!

  • @stationcolossus
    @stationcolossus Před 3 lety

    Great vid!

  • @xSoupyTwist
    @xSoupyTwist Před 3 lety

    Nice and succinct, great video!

  • @chalocesped
    @chalocesped Před 3 lety

    Excellent video. Great to see new people on the coffee youtube, cheers

  • @mauriciolopez6119
    @mauriciolopez6119 Před 3 lety

    Great video man!

  • @KMMHQ
    @KMMHQ Před 3 lety

    Thanks for amazing video 👍

  • @lihenow
    @lihenow Před 3 lety +7

    Just tried April method, produced excellent results, explosion floral and long after sweet taste

  • @MarlonJosephdelaCruz
    @MarlonJosephdelaCruz Před 3 lety

    Great video! Thanks!

  • @absba9
    @absba9 Před 5 měsíci

    Thank you!

  • @ondrejnevelik8543
    @ondrejnevelik8543 Před 3 lety

    Is there a difference when using a single cup V60 vs double cup V60 (while using the same amount of coffee grounds/water in both)?

  • @timmarshall4881
    @timmarshall4881 Před 3 lety

    Great video. 🍹

  • @ryjoy
    @ryjoy Před 3 lety +1

    Lovely video. I am a practitioner of Kasuya's 4:6 method and even got his model of v60 for it. I love the consistency and characteristics of it, especially for my setup. However, I'm really glad you highlighted his "new" method as I am both very curious about it but also skeptical? It feels as though it needs a bit of workshopping but I am excited by the results that you got and would love to try it out, as well as all the other methods you noted!

  • @fuadali2279
    @fuadali2279 Před 3 lety

    Great video 👌🏻💯

  • @fadelpw511
    @fadelpw511 Před 3 lety +1

    Wow nice video, just recently got into coffee and only been using James technique. It does make sense that some technique are not suitable for small batch brew. I usually only brew 15-20g of coffee so I definitely will try April technique next.

  • @abdulazizaldossary6203

    Nice 👍🏼 happy new year dear Carl & may god bless you 😇

  • @estherpangilinan2197
    @estherpangilinan2197 Před 3 lety +1

    New subscriber here! Thank you for sharing your coffee insights with us💯

  • @CrazyCuber187
    @CrazyCuber187 Před 3 lety +10

    Wow I've been using Hoffman's method but tried out April Coffee's one cause of this video and the difference was ridiculous, definitely will be using April Coffee's method from now on

  • @NatePunzalan
    @NatePunzalan Před 3 lety

    Great content

  • @innemannen
    @innemannen Před 3 lety

    Neat video love it :)

  • @painpeace3619
    @painpeace3619 Před 3 lety

    Does it making any difference in test, because of the slightly different brewing method!!!!

  • @64ccd
    @64ccd Před 3 lety +1

    Late to the party here. I would like to argue that Kurasu’s (Kyoto) method is the best. Using a blend of all these techniques (except the aggressive pouring). I do however feel that most recipes don’t use quite enough coffee. I go around 45 grams per 500ml and grind slightly coarser than you do. Gives a bit more of a chocolaty taste and less of an almost-tea-feeling. I learned to up the amount of coffee by own of the best baristas in Sweden by the way.

  • @adamthemute
    @adamthemute Před 3 lety +1

    Great vid! In methods like April's, if you were to do a larger brew (350-500ml), would you suggest splitting the pours from 4 to instead 5-6 equal pours and grinding a bit coarser?

    • @coffeewithcarl1779
      @coffeewithcarl1779  Před 3 lety +1

      Yes, just keep doing 50 g ours every 30 seconds and go a bit coarser

  • @photone96
    @photone96 Před rokem

    I see that you are using a 1zpresso. Could you possibly tell me how many clicks on a 1zpresso Q2? or at least tell me how many did you use on yours? I'm looking specifically for April's v60 recipe. Thanks!

  • @ericli6114
    @ericli6114 Před 3 lety +5

    April mathod seems to be a simplized version of 4-6 mathod. Nice filmed vids. Good job dude.

  • @harrison862
    @harrison862 Před 3 lety

    Just subbed, great video keep it up!

  • @sweiscool
    @sweiscool Před 3 lety

    Amazing content! Just got into pour over after being an espresso and hoffman snub for sometime. Found this video aaaandd subscribed! Thanks for making this video, can’t wait to try them out! I have also been making mistake with the hoffman technique so thanks for that as well.
    Edited: I have been using the adjusted chemex recipe. Looks like there aren’t chemex alternatives for some of these. FWIW April does have a non single cup different recipe for the chemex

  • @Mandragara
    @Mandragara Před 2 lety

    Very interesting. My recipe is very basic, 15g coffee 90C, 30ml bloom. Then I just fill up the V60 and keep it topped up until 250mls of water has been poured. I preferred that to Hoffmans and Kasuya's - however April Coffee's one is piquing my interest with letting the coffee 'relax' between pours

  • @nebeljaeger
    @nebeljaeger Před 3 lety +3

    Great Video Carl, especially for a pourover Newbie like me. It would be helpful to share the Type of Grinder and used Settings for the recipes. Despite different Coffees...
    Thanks for your helpful Videos!

    • @coffeewithcarl1779
      @coffeewithcarl1779  Před 3 lety +2

      In this video I used the JS grinder from 1Zpresso. Will add settings in future videos. Thanks for watching!

  • @kailoz
    @kailoz Před 3 lety +5

    Happy new year kiddo!

  • @chrismitchell7470
    @chrismitchell7470 Před 3 lety

    Great vid 👍

  • @Richard-ck3jl
    @Richard-ck3jl Před 3 lety +12

    I was hoping you were going to do Tetsu's 4:6 method. I did his sweet version, and it blew my mind how sweet the coffee smelled compared to how I used to do pour over

  • @TheMad0ne
    @TheMad0ne Před 3 lety +4

    I'm using Hoffman's pour as I find it more balanced. You should do 120ml of water at 60% since you did 30ml already for the bloom. Also I find less grounds stuck on wall if you stir and swirl less aggressively. Great vid.

    • @coffeewithcarl1779
      @coffeewithcarl1779  Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks for the recommendations! Will definitely implement next time I brew the Hoffmann V60 recipe

    • @rishoo007
      @rishoo007 Před 3 lety

      How much time did you take to pour first 60percent and next 40percent, in consideration with 250ml of total volume

    • @TheMad0ne
      @TheMad0ne Před 3 lety

      @@rishoo007 Timing really varies on the grind and filter type. Right now I'm brewing 22g of coffee with 350ml using the original hario v60 02 untabbed bleached filters as they have faster brew time. My timing (from start to finish) is usually 45seconds, 1:35 and 2:15. Roughly as it aslo depends on how fast your pouring.

  • @craiglewis7760
    @craiglewis7760 Před 3 lety +1

    Hi Carl
    Great video thank you. I tend to use the Jane H recipe but have not tried the final pour as a more “centre pour”. I’m keen to try the April recipe, how would you advise scaling it up? 26g coffee, 400g water and 4 x 100g pours every 30 seconds?
    Thanks for the advice!!

    • @craiglewis7760
      @craiglewis7760 Před 3 lety

      James H, not Jane H

    • @coffeewithcarl1779
      @coffeewithcarl1779  Před 3 lety

      4 * 100 grams every 30 seconds works well, but you will have to adjust your grind size coarser

  • @j.r.1030
    @j.r.1030 Před 3 lety

    Excellent video! Very easy to follow, and I really appreciate your top down view so we can see exactly what’s going on during the brew. What grinder is that?

  • @MrMatigraff
    @MrMatigraff Před 3 lety

    Great video! you have a new subscriptor, grettings from Argentina!

  • @lucadoctorbho266
    @lucadoctorbho266 Před 3 lety

    Dank je wel!

  • @LucasFernandes-sr8gc
    @LucasFernandes-sr8gc Před 3 lety

    Thanks for this video. I hadn't ever heard of the April method and am excited to try it out. Could you please share the grind settings you used on your JX? Is that basic or pro?

    • @coffeewithcarl1779
      @coffeewithcarl1779  Před 3 lety

      It is actually the JS grinder from 1Zpresso, so the grindsettings wont work on JX. Thank you for watching

  • @beejbrigade
    @beejbrigade Před 3 lety

    How would you brew April’s recipe for 500g of water? Would you do 4 pours of 125g of water every 30 seconds?

    • @coffeewithcarl1779
      @coffeewithcarl1779  Před 3 lety

      April coffee themselves have done a video on that topic: czcams.com/video/X-fXQKqkYxI/video.html Thanks for watching!

  • @DominicFrenchMusic
    @DominicFrenchMusic Před 3 lety

    Great video! Can I ask how you would upscale the April recipe for a 20g/300ml brew? Thanks

    • @coffeewithcarl1779
      @coffeewithcarl1779  Před 3 lety

      Continue doing 50 g pours every 30 seconds and go a tiny bit coarser

  • @khirek5335
    @khirek5335 Před 2 lety

    Great video, I just tried the April recipe for the first time and I made a really good cup even with rather cheap discounter beans! I tweaked it a little bit because of my current beans but yeah. How would it compare to the original tetsu kasuya method? Or overall other methods that consist of multiple short pours

    • @coffeewithcarl1779
      @coffeewithcarl1779  Před 2 lety

      It's simpler which is really important for dialling in a new coffee. Tetsu's original recipe is very customisable so it's hard to compare

  • @jennyyue6402
    @jennyyue6402 Před 3 lety

    Great video!!!keep going

  • @wesleybaquero6414
    @wesleybaquero6414 Před 3 lety

    If you wanted to make a 2 cup (400-500ml) serving, would you just do every ratio twice on the same brew? Thank you

    • @coffeewithcarl1779
      @coffeewithcarl1779  Před 3 lety

      For the first 2 check out the video links in the description - they are both originally 2 cup recipes. On the other 2 you have to calculate the ratio and use that to figure out the 2 cup recipe

  • @gillespie834
    @gillespie834 Před 3 lety

    Do you happen to remember the rotations / numbers (10 per rotation) used on the 1Zpresso JX for each recipe? Just curious... of course it will depend on the type of coffee, brew size, etc. but wondering if mine are in the same range as yours.

    • @coffeewithcarl1779
      @coffeewithcarl1779  Před 3 lety

      I use the JS grinder so I don't know if it translates to Jx. RAO: 2 rotations minus 5 clicks HOFFMANN: 2 rotations minus 5 clicks. TETSU: 1 and a half rotations + 2 clicks (I think) APRIL: 2 rotations + 2 clickdy

    • @josephk8248
      @josephk8248 Před 3 lety

      I used a KINU hand grinder. Can you let me know where you recommend I grind for each ?

    • @coffeewithcarl1779
      @coffeewithcarl1779  Před 3 lety

      @@josephk8248 I unfortunately don't have the Kind so I don't know

  • @JasonKuang
    @JasonKuang Před 3 lety

    Just tried the Tetsu Kasuya brew method with Columbian & Honduran beans and it was actually sweeter! The aftertaste was muted tho.
    Can’t wait to try it with Ethiopian beans for an even sweater cup.
    Awesome video!

    • @coffeewithcarl1779
      @coffeewithcarl1779  Před 3 lety

      Tetsu also noted himself that the aftertaste was quite short. Thanks for watching!

  • @uczesieact7152
    @uczesieact7152 Před 3 lety

    Cool comparison. I will the April method a try. BTW Have you tried osmotic flow? If I do it well (which is not always possible) the resulting coffee is very rich with pronounced taste. It has been my go-to in the last few months.