Ange Postecoglou’s PASSIONATE rant about blue cards and sin-bins in football 🔥
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- čas přidán 11. 02. 2024
- Spurs boss, Ange Postecoglou, reacts to speculation that blue cards could be trialled in football.
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** Ange answers question in a quiet, calm, dispassionate manner. **
Prime Video employees: ... let's go with "PASSIONATE rant"
I wouldn't say it was "dispassionate" but I agree it was certainly not a rant.
I don't think being dispassionate is ever really a good thing. Being passionate doesn't have to involve anger or yelling, etc. I would say he made his point passionately yet calmly and succinctly.
I mean its still passionate, But this comment was funny, i get What you mean
No one articulates the issues better than Ange. No BS .. simple, intelligent, heartfelt insight
Too bad he is wrong.
@@TheAtticusFinch
I know we each have our opinions and that’s healthy and enjoyable to debate… in this instance however, I agree with everything he said.
Yeah, he is still wrong.
He doesn’t understand what VAR is.
He doesn’t explain what the blue card problem is 🫡
I think the only correct term used in your description is ‘Simple’.
This interview is actually quite nonsensical 😂😂😂
@@TheAtticusFinch
Have a scroll through the comments and you might notice how far out of touch you are. I suspect you’re just trolling for a fight so I’ll keep it “simple” for you .. you’re wrong.
Passionate rant? How is this a rant? Common sense if you ask me. Delivered in a most articulate way.
Completely agree, just commented something similar. A calm and considered (and sensible) response it was. A "rant" it was not.
He speaks a lot of common sense.
Too much, that's why we like listening to him. He didn't say one thing I disagreed with
This interview is nonsense
@@TheAtticusFinch Unlike your comment, of course.
@@forearthbelow 🆗 He’s a genius. Everything he says is prophetic. Even tho he literally doesn’t even make 1 salient point. But yeah, wow, he’s amazing. The part where he shows he doesn’t understand what VAR is, is inspiring, and let’s not forget when he says a blue card would ruin a game because one team would just go defensive for ten minutes, unlike a red card👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀 GENIUS 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@TheAtticusFinchhis whole point is that the answers are already in the hands on the ref. You got two cards already.. use them!
This bloke makes me proud to be an Aussie
He talked for 5 mins straight, meaning a rant lol
You say that, but you know he ain’t really an Aussie 😂
fax he’s pure greek @@harryturner6962
@@harryturner6962 he's Greek right?
@@harryturner6962Played for Australia, did he not?
As he rightly said, there already is a rule in place, and the available yellow or red card.
How many people are frustrated watching a referee do nothing about time wasting, and then they book someone in the 89th minute.... the cause of current problems are referees/ inconsistency and VAR, but not the system....the referees operating it.
It the refs are a problem, stop playing the game in general.
If the main important foul and rules instructor is terrible, than there's a massive problem with whole game and should be completely stopped or games should be cancelled until the refs are trained better.
@@LifenKnightthat's your solution? Just end football? If people were like you, football would have died about a year after it was invented.
@@Shsjier the main thing making it run are either stupid, lazy or don't know how things should run, they lack confidence to make calls.
VAR is so slow that its ruining the pace and run time of games, whilst corrupting games completely in some cases.
In Gaming terms these are bugs and glitches.
I wouldnt expect players to went to play it.
And the way they are playing is causing them to add the blue card rule, because they found a way to do something unsportsmanlike enough to need a Card for a ruling play.
They are flopping and complaining in the same breath.
Yet they are the ones who think the refs are bad.
Basically there's something seriously wrong with the game as it is now and unless something changes fast, we wouldn't have a thing called football a sport and just football The party game.
The main problem in football is the complete lack of respect referees get from players, coaches and fans. On the field they are the boss. Show them the respect and they will naturally get better. How? More people, a better quality of individual, will want to do it so there will be a bigger pool to choose from and the premier league will get the best. But who wants to turn up on a Saturday to be called a wankaaaaaa for 90minutes and zero gratitude from press, press conferences or comparative pay. Or at grass roots run the risk of being physically attacked. Or in Colombia shot. A referee salary should start at the highest paid footballer salary. Would revolutionise application.
@@jackcollins7061🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Some may see this as a RANT, i just think he talks common sense and just says what most fans think.
Arsenal fan, but I have so much respect for Ange. He's one of the most real and down to earth guys I've seen in management. Football in the last few years has started going more down the direction of rugby - focused on obscure technical rules and endless labouring over getting decisions exactly right. I miss the days when handball had to be deliberate, not some convoluted and subjective call that will never be consistent between refs.
Every manager when asked are all saying its a bad thing, fans are constantly shouting how bad it is and how they don't want it in the game, yet these absolute mugs in the higher ups are still going to implement it. Refs are barely competent as it is, this is just going to make them worse and the game 10 times worse.
Infantino just wants to tick to woke agenda he's sucking on by bringing in cards for all of the rainbow.
They want to fix football mwtches that's why.
Problem is people who control the football making changes to maximise profit not to improve the game
Unless it is a serious problem that excessively harms fairness, there is no reason for football to change. There is no serious reason why blue cards must be introduced. It's such a stupid thing to do.
Exactly, and VAR was "apparently" introduced to over rule a clear mistake by a referee, yet somehow , despite all the technology and camera angles, is getting more wrong than right. While this is happening, gambling agencies are having more and more influence on football and sport in general. This is NOT a co-incidence.
@@daveb5998it was obviously corruption from the beginning to me, and that should only be more obvious now with how it has been implemented, they want as much control on the outcome of results of football matches as possible with the least amount of checks and balances and oversight.
@@emptywhy Exactly right. Never forget that the excuse to bring in VAR was to over rule the occasional "howler" by the referee, yet is now producing more "howlers" then ever before. How many teams have gambling companies as sponsors at the same time? Professional sport is a lie.
@@emptywhy I mean, it's completely the opposite of what your say. How is the " control on the outcome of results of football matches as possible with the least amount of checks and balances and oversight" when we are seeing how the decisions are made through the VAR video and before VAR we didn't have this information?
It's as if people are getting more stupid by the hour🙄
@@daveb5998 What kind mental gymnastics do you have to perform to come up with that statement? They are getting more decisions right. Whether you like VAR or not that's an indisputable fact.
Think about it, any decision by the ref is being double checked by VAR, how could they possibly be getting more wrong decisions?
Do you not have an ounce of common sense?
Adding blue cards to football will add more complication and slow down the game. There's no reason to add blue cards, when the solution is to enforce the rules we already have (just give a yellow card if needed)
Yup, and refs cant be scared to give that second one either, even if its just for dissent. If they stay consistent with that, then players will stop running to and yelling at refs. Simple.
exactly@@thegrudge
The voice of reason.
Ange, the king of common sense. As he says there are already cards (Yellow/Red) in place just use them. Looking at it I think these people making the decisions are trying to take the responsibility away from the ref. That may sound silly as the ref has to show the card. The thing is rather than sending a player off he sin bins them for ten minutes. I'm with Ange, why are we trying to implement rules and technology from other sports? Here in Australia VAR was being used in a number of sports a long time before Football introduced it to the game. Whomever said it works great obviously had never watched an NRL or Cricket match in Australia. Just like VAR in Football VAR more often than not gets the decisions wrong and destroys the flow of the game. Ex players and pundits are dumb founded by the VAR decision making and often call for VAR to be scrapped. I hope for the future of Football common sense prevails and we leave the game alone. If they want to change for the better then support the referees, that is back their decision whether it be correct or not. Teach players to respect the referees decision and come down hard on those who don't. Whether people like it or not with the man in the middle we have no game. The game did just fine before technology came along albeit refs are now fearful of making decisions for being abused by players and managers in the carpark after the game.
You're right about taking responsibility from the ref, and it's not even what the refs want: VAR was demanded by clubs and opposed by refs. Let the refs do their jobs. And like you say, enforce respect of them and their decisions. One rule you could import from rugby union is that only the team captain can approach the ref. Definitely sanction clubs and coaches who come after the ref after the game, like has happened a couple of times this season.
Ange has form and experience - that comment "other sports" - he lived in Australia long enough to understand, he knows and he has many admirers across Rugby, Rules , League and Football - Oz Rules is a massive sport just not international closest thing Gaelic Football but he's a Melbourne boy - don't ignore what he is saying - he is massively respected in general not just football
Sums it up perfectly: all other sports are looking to speed up their game. Football is going backwards..
Ange is right. For me it's about making the big decisions correctly but swiftly. Use the world cup tech - sensor in ball, lidr sensors, and 3D pitch is coordinated for: goal line (goal or no goal), offsides, is ball out of bounds. Those are quick, tech based decisions for all binary (it is or isnt, no inbetween). For big subjective decisions that has big implications for the game, ref is allowed a replay - penalties and red cards. For everything else, including yellow cards, free kicks, it's up to the real time discretion of the ref. Keep the game flowing for 45mins without stop and starts. VAR really does affect the fan experience and the stadium atmosphere of the crowds.
Amazon, this was not a rant. You edited out the questions
Couldn't agree with him more! They are actively making the game worse
One of us!
The referees and their inconsitent application of the rules is the real problem. Give the time-wasting goalkeeper a yellow the first time he wastes time and the game'll speed up. Do it again? fine, you're off to an early shower then. You had been warned.
What are your thoughts on blue cards in football? 🤔
Watched the nfl Super Bowl a day ago and it’s all stop and start 😮boring please let the game flow 😊
He’s spot on
This isn't a rant. The man is holding court
The biggest problem with football today, especially the PL is the consistency of the decisions. Bringing in another card system won't solve the inconsistency of the decisions... 🤔
May as well call it a grey card because, as Ange said, we have yellow already and introducing blue brings some vague 'degree of infringement' that refs will have to call in the moment and will 100% get wrong now and then. Just use what we have more efficiently and consistently!
this guy is spot on
Wish there would have been an argument like this made before they started dismantling baseball
He just never misses
Well said.
Sooooo much sense...
I know why. There are star players that keep customers watching the game. If you sin bin someone, the customer won't leave the game if the star players get "blue carded"
When Klopp leaves, this guy is gonna be the most authentic and trusted manager for Premier League fans.
They are trying to Americanise everything.
More breaks = more ads = more money.
VAR should just be better.
Not that it just be a good or bad for the players.
Simply if the ref didn't see it or couldn't remember what happened VAR should be used.
Its not a rule change its a fix for a problem the game has.
We all saw how bring the NFL is at the last superbowl, so many stoppages etc for ads.
I don't know about other sports speeding up and decluttering. Other than video and other replay technology, the other big fad sports have gotten into is player challenges, which have definitely slowed things down and I'm worried that'll come soon for football too..
We should have effective time and not worry about anything else. The ball goes out, the watch stops. Anyone wastes time rolling on the ground after a tackle, bothering the referee or taking 2 minutes for a goal kick, the watch stops. I hate that the last 10/20 minutes of every game seems to always be one frustrated team vs one non-playing team. Let's make every second count
Nah tbh 10 mins is actually crazy
What gives them the right to go and change the rules of the game,football has been fine without blue cards for how many years??
I know, IFAB is like a dictatorship. If they allowed clubs, managers, players and supporters to vote on this proposed change, the vast majority would vote against it. Nobody wants it but they think they can just implement it regardless. Appalling.
@@FreshAlchemy 100% agree 👏
Where was the rant?
Blue cards who thought about this for football shoud be kicked out of game a joke.
Perfect
Spoke for every football fan
Only way it would make sense is to use the blue card as interchangeable with a yellow. A blue card is equal to a yellow, just with 10mins of extra penalty, for a bad foul that doesnt warrant a red. Ie blue cards sub as almost all red cards until half time. Obviously a red is a red, but before halftine a red is often a yellow but make that 10 minutes time off while out of play
They haven’t let technology in though that is the issue. The umpire in tennis has nothing to do with hawkeye whereas we need four refs to watch the same game and draw some lines on a screen and because of that we still see human error and decisions taking ages.
Goal line technology is the ONLY thing they should have brought in, not VAR
he’s not wrong
Bring back the magic sponge instead COYS
mate mate you know mate mate
People get paid to come up with these ideas and implement them so it's in their best interest to continue to create things that aren't needed, that simple.
trust me you dont want sinbins it kinda ruins games in the NRL... especially because they can be sent off for a pure accident.
it ruined the rugby wc final
Hes right you know
Media and corporate interests are directly opposed to the fans. More stoppages = more ad revenue. I hope they don't ruin the game to squeeze more cash out of it.
You know what I WOULD like to see is a sin bin instead of penalties
Give a corner instead of a penalty, player is off for 10 minutes or until the opposition scores (like rugby). That way the punishment gives a team the same chance to score as the opportunity they lost from the foul instead of these ridiculous luck-based 70% chance minigames.
Get rid of the play-acting, diving and disrespect to the ref. Blue cards just make the game more complicated. As he says, the 10 men team will park the bus.
We should take the way rugby stops the clock and we should mic the refs to stop dissent and bad calls, that is it. And as Ange says that is to declutter the game not to waste more time
They’ve already changed the entire dynamic of the game by bringing 5 subs, which I still think is idiotic, VAR si completely inconsistent, rules are being enforced that don’t make sense like keepers not being able to move during penalties (while guarding 7,5 m goal), offsides being called for nonsensical reasons.. they are ruining the game
Biggest issues in football are time wasting under the guise of ‘game management’, overpaid in term of wages, refereeing inconsistencies and dissent towards referees.
Football just need to issue yellows for visual and verbal descent to referee's, diving, pushing .. all instant yellows
On the 80th minute blue is practically a red card
Turquoise cards are the future.
Blue cards are just another avenue of VAR, which can directly change/influence the outcome of a game at the EXACT same time that GAMBLING companies profit more and more from sport. Referees and VAR is never being held accountable, but they are having more and more say on the outcome that usually profits the gambling companies. There is a much bigger picture at play here. Join the dots is the first step..........................
The Blue card sin bin should help speed up the game by offering more of a deterrent to cynical fouls in the build-up. People are ranting and raving about this change because of the mess that was the last major change - VAR. But this is completely different, it helps clamp down on a really cynical and anti-football practise and leaves little up for interpretation - everyone can see when a foul is cynical but not dangerous.
'It's another thing for refs to get wrong' - sure but that's a separate issue. And you're not going to get more people interested in refereeing if there's no measure to protect themselves from abuse, as now. It works in Rugby, let's try it for football.
Facts
Cant believe ange lost a tight tie in the final of the coal and tobacco eating world championships, congrats to sean dyche on his win but ange will be back more gravelly next year.
I don’t really understand his point about slowing the game down. Blue cards/sin bins seem to be intended to stop cynical fouls. At the minute, most counter attacks are stopped by a simple shirt pull or light foul. The offending player gets a yellow but it’s not much of a deterrent so teams do it repeatedly. That slows the game down and prevents goals being scored. Maybe the sin bin will prevent a few of those fouls and get the game flowing more, and bring more goals. That will speed up the game. Trial it. If it doesn’t work or there’s unintended consequences that make the game worse then don’t roll it out. I agree on VAR. It seems to be the worst implementation of video refereeing across any sport. It’s slow and seems to lead to more errors rather than less.
Why is this on Amazon? Is there a spurs episode coming?
More importantly we need tik tok breaks every 15 minutes. Half time shows are also a MUST. Time to focus on the important stuff
Devils advocate here.... we didn't ask for VAR like this... we asked for goal line tech (good) and reversals of utter howlers.
Couldn't blue cards be used to stop the tactical fouls that every team uses to stop counter attacks? because a yellow card isn't enough of a deterrent to stop teams doing it.
Big Ange postelujzjzkxkgu speaks sense
Spurs you lucky buggers 😂 this guy is giving off early klopp day vibes. Speaks sense, doesn't follow a script, likeable character and the improvements on the pitch too 👏
Nah they are mediocre at best, and they will continue to be
When is this happening ,why isnt there a vote by players and managers, simple
It is exceedingly obvious to me why it is being added. What better way is there to fix a result than to put one team down to 10 men for 10 minutes? This is a way for them to get the results they want. Shameful.
Not sure if blue cards will work, but I do think a yellow card is not a big enough punishment for professional fouls that stop breaks, particularly in the modern game where pressing and quick counters are so important.
Yes it is they won’t do it again it’s simple. Breaking up play is part of the game
the ownership is corporate. owners do not understand football, they only believe in profit. hence, the urgency to make changes, changes, changes, find some way to squeeze more profit out of the game.
it's like a crackhead searching for that first high again. maybe this will work . maybe this will work. maybe THIS will work ...
Next Liverpool manager
Couldn't agree more. Football is getting worse to watch. I like a live game with a flow.
Sin bin is so dumb. Just causes one team to park the bus for 10 mins, increases injuries and makes it more boring
Not all rule changes are bad.
The back-pass rule and red card for diving have actually improved the game.
Does anyone ever get a red card for diving? They don't even get yellows or even anything.
Football just need to grow a pair and change the culture to like rugby. One small word to the ref and you get a yellow card.
Cancel VAR
Its usually non footballers trying to Justify their massive salaries by inventing solutions to problems that dont exist.
Call me a conspiracy theorist, but it’s like an extension of draconian laws in general going on. There are solutions already in place for wrong doings in football so why introduce more.
Take away the yellow card and replace it with a blue.
Blue cards for the win
As a spectator, a red card almost always ruins a game. The last thing anyone wants to see is a player getting sent off (except obviously the opposition).
Blue cards would, as angle said, just make one side play super defensively for 10 mins 🥱
Have a referendum amongst the fans ? All clubs should have a ballot of season ticketholders. What do the FANS WANT . Take this idea and run with it FA . Who better to ask than the people who KEEP YOU IN A PEN PUSHING JOB !
I think its a good idea if it is used when a player is deliberately brought down, pull back or handle the ball to get a combination yellow/blue card and sent off for 10 minutes just my stop it
I have been dithering for a while over if I should walk away from football . Anymore changes and it will be the final nail for me and I am sure many others it will kill football .thats already in a bad place through money . Cheating more in Scotland than England on that one .enough is enough .R.I.P football
How can this possibly be called a rant? It's not clickbait it's just a plain lie.
Its all about creating more commercial advertisement time. And just like all corporate decisions the average punter/customer suffers at the hands of shareholders at the top.
This blue card nonsense can’t work in a sport with goalkeepers.
What if it’s the goalkeeper that gets a blue card?
Utter nonsense.
I like the idea of blue cards. It works in Rugby, and to be honest, the players are a lot more respectful to refs in Rugby too. Perhaps this will lead to some greater respect from the players, to the refs, who experience a torrent of abuse from players in general, and it might start to change the culture for the better. I think it's a good experiment. I think people who don't want it, are just fearful of change, and not all change is a bad thing.
One blue card and one yellow. Thats a green card. Then what? 😅
The blue card will punish cynical fouls that prevent goals from being scored. Why is that a bad thing?
Well, his team are *famous* for crap cynical fouls when they're getting their asses beat 😂
*Of course* he doesn't want that stopped.
Simulation and time wasting have already severely damaged the game. These issues must be sold.
If football adopts blue cards I'm stopping watching football.
I'm for var if used correctly like in Europe and the WC.
I love football please don't destroy another thing I love