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  • @DavidDewis
    @DavidDewis Před 2 lety +1114

    Most of your videos are “Things you’ve seen in Ace Combat, that could have actually been real”, and I love it.

    • @SpheroJr3289
      @SpheroJr3289 Před 2 lety +58

      There is a real life counterpart to the Alicorn… the I-400 Class carrier submarine. 3 dive bomber aircraft.

    • @simplementepersona
      @simplementepersona Před 2 lety +41

      @@SpheroJr3289 although I love the i-400, the alicorn would be way better, two years without surface, railguns, missile system, as guns, drones, electronic warfare, shield drones, up to twenty fighters with pilots that no valuate their life kinda much, nukes, and a plan to end this war in an elegant manner. Is like saying that a horses car is the counterpart of a F1 racing car

    • @the_stinky_broccoli8998
      @the_stinky_broccoli8998 Před 2 lety +5

      @@simplementepersona i-400 pilots probably didn't value there life that much over the empire, as a lot of Japanese soldiers did.

    • @simplementepersona
      @simplementepersona Před 2 lety +9

      @@the_stinky_broccoli8998 neither do the alicorn crew... They were taking off when the submarine were still emerging and they were human shields, not to talk that carrying 20 planes which can take off in squadrons + drones that can take off while underwater makes it more powerful

    • @AdmiralTails
      @AdmiralTails Před 2 lety +6

      @@SpheroJr3289 Honestly, I'd consider the I-400 to be more like the Scinfaxi-class submarines than the Alicorn, as it rather lacked a flight deck, and would have launched floatplanes (or planes with no way of landing safely, as the pontoons were actually removed during storage, and could be omitted for faster launches), while the Alicorn clearly had the ability to have its aircraft land back on it like a regular carrier, despite us never seeing any do so. They also share the similarity of also fulfilling more traditional submarine roles, as the I-400 had torpedo tubes, and the scinfaxi class being a ballistic missile submarine, while the Alicorn's mode of operation was more in line with a surface warship that happens to be able to submerge.
      Sure, the Scinfaxi-class presumably also could have its aircraft land back on it, but that's only because it used VTOL aircraft and UAVs (the latter of which may have forgone recovery), but it's still a matter of an alternative method of landing, as the I-400 did have the ability to recover its aircraft after they landed on the water.

  • @robertorafaelvazquezvazque2376

    "Sub sandwich full of MUSTARD" love it lolol

  • @northernbrent6334
    @northernbrent6334 Před rokem +39

    Get ready tax payers

    • @mi1400
      @mi1400 Před 16 dny

      Anything larger than current high stealth/silence submarines will be flawed...and submarine hunters can even detect anomaly in earth's magnetic field hence detecting huge submarine... so such and similar vlogs goes out of the window... rescuing/salvaging sitting aircraft methods makes LEM/DARPA way flawed too... I have a classified design which addresses all and actively looking to pitch to precise channel in US. They could be reading this too :) ...

    • @homemadecringeycontent6363
      @homemadecringeycontent6363 Před 9 dny

      The Navy can take my taxes, this is cool as hell

  • @hudbudmudsud
    @hudbudmudsud Před 2 lety +40

    In my opinion, Acecombat's Sinfaxi and Alicorn class subs are probably the most sensible aircraft carrier submarine design.

    • @mi1400
      @mi1400 Před 16 dny

      Anything larger than current high stealth/silence submarines will be flawed...and submarine hunters can even detect anomaly in earth's magnetic field hence detecting huge submarine... so such and similar vlogs goes out of the window... rescuing/salvaging sitting aircraft methods makes LEM/DARPA way flawed too... I have a classified design which addresses all and actively looking to pitch to precise channel in US. They could be reading this too :) ...

  • @nong333
    @nong333 Před 2 lety +1826

    Ace Combat developers: Write that down, write that down!

    • @herrerasauro7429
      @herrerasauro7429 Před 2 lety +173

      Honestly, nowadays it's the opposite.
      DARPA plays Ace Combat and salivate.

    • @mikehanson7952
      @mikehanson7952 Před 2 lety +114

      Those damn Belkans are at it again!

    • @rambo64bit82
      @rambo64bit82 Před 2 lety +72

      It's called the Alicorn

    • @JensenKangalee
      @JensenKangalee Před 2 lety +64

      Hrimfaxi Submarine. A Scinfaxi-class nuclear submarine developed by the Union of Yuktobanian Republics during the Cold War. It along with its sister ship, the Scinfaxi, was later destroyed during the Circum-Pacific War.

    • @bad_pilot13official
      @bad_pilot13official Před 2 lety +29

      @@JensenKangalee and then it got nae naed by the ark bird

  • @ikethefrontliner5899
    @ikethefrontliner5899 Před 2 lety +480

    "This ship have the power to end this hideous war in an efficient and elegant manner" ONE MILLION! ONE MILLION LIVES!
    captain Torres

  • @thelonewolf9866
    @thelonewolf9866 Před 2 lety +27

    The concept is quite unique. The ability to sneak aircraft around & deploy them from unexpected locations via a submarine. Imagine a stealth fighter hitting its target. Vanishing from sight, then vanishing beneath the waves.

    • @brentsido8822
      @brentsido8822 Před 5 měsíci

      What would be the advantage to that over submarine launched cruise missile or ballistic missile?

    • @allangibson8494
      @allangibson8494 Před 4 měsíci

      Except it’s been done by four different countries before…

    • @giftzwerg7345
      @giftzwerg7345 Před 4 měsíci

      @@brentsido8822 well you can attac and anish attack and vanish. you caqn hit more targets than you can with course missiles. it allso will confuse the enemy, and like you have more options

    • @mi1400
      @mi1400 Před 16 dny

      Anything larger than current high stealth/silence submarines will be flawed...and submarine hunters can even detect anomaly in earth's magnetic field hence detecting huge submarine... so such and similar vlogs goes out of the window... rescuing/salvaging sitting aircraft methods makes LEM/DARPA way flawed too... I have a classified design which addresses all and actively looking to pitch to precise channel in US. They could be reading this too :) ...

    • @thelonewolf9866
      @thelonewolf9866 Před 16 dny +1

      ​@@mi1400 Interesting

  • @priyonjoni
    @priyonjoni Před rokem +2

    “With plenty of Mustard” 😆

  • @captain_commenter8796
    @captain_commenter8796 Před 2 lety +520

    Boeing: damn, making a submarine aircraft carrier is hard!
    General Electric: *observe*

    • @Yuki_Ika7
      @Yuki_Ika7 Před 2 lety +30

      There is a G.E. plant about 45 mins away from my house near Cincinnati Ohio, they make aircraft engines there, it is quite the impressive looking facility (i have never been on premises but i sometimes see it from afar when driving

    • @samwheat1302
      @samwheat1302 Před 2 lety +3

      @@secondstartotheright No. They had 3, not 10, completed, all three were lost. They planned on building 18 of them but 15 were cancelled.

    • @adamdubin1276
      @adamdubin1276 Před 2 lety +5

      @@samwheat1302 Try captured/surrendered as war prizes. The USN scuttled them after doing a detailed study to prevent the Russians from trying to take them as their own prizes even though it was the US that accepted the surrender and had jurisdiction over the Japanese home islands and any remaining Japanese military assets, hence why Nagato was present at Operation Crossroads as a target.
      France also had Surcouf which carried a folding wing biplane for spotting and a large number Japanese submarines actually had small seaplane hangars for recon and spotting, as did a number of Royal Navy submarines such as the M-class. Most other nations had experimented with the concept and the Germans had several designs drawn up by late WWII.

    • @TheCeleron450
      @TheCeleron450 Před 2 lety

      @@secondstartotheright 2 survived the war. 1 was operational and surrendered to the US at the end of the war. The second was conducting Sea Trials when the war ended. The 3rd was still under construction. 1 of them was sunk off Hawaii after the US had gotten everything they wanted from it as far as intelligence and any engineering information they wanted before being sunk to prevent it from falling into Soviet hands. None saw action.

    • @ClassifiedPerson
      @ClassifiedPerson Před 2 lety +4

      Japan in ww2 : first time?

  • @lurchibold
    @lurchibold Před 2 lety +232

    Submarine battle ships? ...... Oh hell yeah!!

    • @downix
      @downix Před 2 lety +14

      The French actually did this, the Surcouf class. (Technically a cruiser, but the concept is there)

    • @Naw662
      @Naw662 Před 2 lety +5

      Supreme Commander vibes

    • @MaskedVengeanceTV
      @MaskedVengeanceTV Před 2 lety +11

      The British did it with the M1. They're called big gun or cruiser submarines. And there's actually a lot of countries in the 1920s that made a lot of these battleship submarines.

    • @billyelliot4141
      @billyelliot4141 Před 2 lety +7

      Its not dangerous enough, can we add more nuclear reactors?

    • @mojoway9379
      @mojoway9379 Před 2 lety +1

      Agreed

  • @ValhallaExpress9923
    @ValhallaExpress9923 Před 2 lety +20

    I would absolutely love to see the sub/battleship hybrid video. The crazy outlandish ideas that almost came to be are fascinating and I can't get enough of them

  • @EnduringFoliage
    @EnduringFoliage Před 2 lety +10

    U.S. Navy: can we have a flight deck?
    GE: best I can do is hangers

  • @tlshortyshorty5810
    @tlshortyshorty5810 Před 2 lety +172

    _"This boat has the means to end this hideous war, in a definitive and elegant manner. The world shall be horrified by the number of lives we will take. Only then will they lay down their weapons... weapons that would have taken the lives of 10 million."_

    • @KianaK0423
      @KianaK0423 Před rokem +12

      _"That is, until Trigger Ruined it."_

    • @swei970724
      @swei970724 Před rokem +7

      Sink the aft, it will give the elevation it needs

    • @mi1400
      @mi1400 Před 16 dny

      Anything larger than current high stealth/silence submarines will be flawed...and submarine hunters can even detect anomaly in earth's magnetic field hence detecting huge submarine... so such and similar vlogs goes out of the window... rescuing/salvaging sitting aircraft methods makes LEM/DARPA way flawed too... I have a classified design which addresses all and actively looking to pitch to precise channel in US. They could be reading this too :) ...

  • @pauloalmeida9468
    @pauloalmeida9468 Před 2 lety +230

    ''Submarine Aircraft Carrier''
    ''IMPOSSIBLE''
    Captain Torres would like to disagree

    • @Barri2410
      @Barri2410 Před 2 lety +26

      _Scinfaxi_ is itching with the Burst MIRV

    • @purplecupp3046
      @purplecupp3046 Před 2 lety +10

      Lol japan made three sub carriers. They had plans on making 18 altogether to attack usa mainland

    • @andrewduran1813
      @andrewduran1813 Před 2 lety +2

      The planes will run out of fuel and need to land , has that been thought of ? 🤔 They better have a better idea or else back to the drawing board

    • @vornamenachname2625
      @vornamenachname2625 Před 2 lety +1

      The major problem is to start and land while the carrier is submerged.

    • @yourlocalmilkman916
      @yourlocalmilkman916 Před 2 lety +4

      I400 would like to laugh

  • @H0kram
    @H0kram Před 2 lety +73

    6:40 Perfect example of why engineers need supervision that grounds them into reality.
    At which moment would anyone consider that carrying a nuclear bomb and not being able to land, all at the same time, could be something remotely acceptable? It hasn't changed, I can tell you.

    • @deth3021
      @deth3021 Před rokem +11

      I think you'll find its the crazy requests that managers and customers have that lead engineers, to have crazy concepts.
      Also most things sound crazy when you first propose them. Launching icbms from submarines underwater for example.

    • @shane44207
      @shane44207 Před 6 měsíci

      Phycological warfare

  • @Enonymouse_
    @Enonymouse_ Před 2 lety +78

    The sea-plane combat jet would have doomed itself, all those parts being directly exposed to sea water is the kiss of death for any mechanical thing - especially a jet.

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS Před 2 lety +4

      You do realize people have been using seaplanes for decades?

    • @Enonymouse_
      @Enonymouse_ Před 2 lety +11

      @@WALTERBROADDUS There is a profound difference between a pleasure craft that travels at 100 mph and something pushing mach numbers in terms of mechanical tolerances, experiencing regular high G loads and maintenance requirements. That is a lot to try and design around..

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS Před 2 lety

      @@Enonymouse_ czcams.com/video/b0-VdFcV9uc/video.html

    • @thenewjerseysquid3500
      @thenewjerseysquid3500 Před rokem +3

      the japanese and americans were using armed military seaplanes as far back as ww1 and ww2 and as far as jets go look up soviet WIGs and ekranoplan and for the american side of things look up the martin p6m Seamaster

    • @jebipasadegene
      @jebipasadegene Před rokem +3

      @@Enonymouse_ you think planes dont get wet on normal carriers?

  • @sigstackfault
    @sigstackfault Před 2 lety +716

    Needs more railguns.

    • @Joshua_N-A
      @Joshua_N-A Před 2 lety +92

      And a bed with CRISP WHITE SHEET.

    • @gexgaming-hf6kc
      @gexgaming-hf6kc Před 2 lety +20

      Need nuclear Missile

    • @perlasandoval7883
      @perlasandoval7883 Před 2 lety +13

      railguns are terminated most likely replaced by hypersonic missiles

    • @Captain_Harper1
      @Captain_Harper1 Před 2 lety +46

      ONE MILLION LIVES!!!

    • @fredjack416
      @fredjack416 Před 2 lety +15

      I’m still baffled as why they didn’t just go with a vtol aircraft

  • @lelouchjoestar1008
    @lelouchjoestar1008 Před 2 lety +55

    Wiseman

  • @JustinGladden
    @JustinGladden Před 2 lety +15

    I've just finished watching the flying aircraft carrier episode before watching this, and the interesting thing about both is that they "could work" with the small drones we have now.

  • @oscarrigo5358
    @oscarrigo5358 Před 2 lety +9

    The French also had a submarine that could launch an aircraft and had a battery that would nominally be fitted on a cruiser. The sub was called Surcouf

  • @virgilio6349
    @virgilio6349 Před 2 lety +226

    "This boat has the means to end any war in a definitive and elegant matter."

  • @alanrogers7090
    @alanrogers7090 Před 2 lety +616

    The Japanese I-400 class did NOT fail, they were just too late in the war to have much effect. The DID bomb both Oregon and Washington, but they didn't cause all that much damage.

    • @daleeasternbrat816
      @daleeasternbrat816 Před 2 lety +125

      As technology they worked. As weapons ...... they seemed to lack a mission. Properly employed , in the right place and time the I-400 could have been a great force multiplier. Their 4 plane air group couldn't throw much weight but has enough punch to do some really useful things. The ships worked. In my opinion, at that time, there were more important things to use those resources on. A neat thing for Japan to develop.

    • @cenccenc946
      @cenccenc946 Před 2 lety +33

      psychological warfare weapon, at best.

    • @nhecos2998
      @nhecos2998 Před 2 lety +14

      @@daleeasternbrat816 Its mission was to be a delivery platform for biological warfare.

    • @johnreed9435
      @johnreed9435 Před 2 lety +20

      I-400 did not launch planes against the West Coast. Do your research and resubmit your response.

    • @reisen1932
      @reisen1932 Před 2 lety +21

      I agree, it was not I-400 class, it was a 2-digit "I" class (smaller submarine that could carry 1 aircraft).

  • @Skyteam_8492
    @Skyteam_8492 Před 7 měsíci +3

    “Alicorn spotted! It’s surfacing!”

  • @MilitaryUpdate
    @MilitaryUpdate Před 2 lety +200

    sometimes imagination can come true, but Japan has proven it when it attacks America

    • @luminousfractal420
      @luminousfractal420 Před 2 lety +12

      like when certain teachers forget to teach the bit about why japan attacked..the usa attacked and sunk a defenseless hospital ship. it was retaliation. like your imagination though.

    • @jamesdeibler5657
      @jamesdeibler5657 Před 2 lety +4

      Then we imagined the splitting of the atom…..

    • @RodWick
      @RodWick Před 2 lety +12

      The Japanese actually developed such a sub during ww2.

    • @richardpeterson3753
      @richardpeterson3753 Před 2 lety

      Japan will not attack us you fool.theres a load of reasons why,but to list a few key reasons,one they are allied,and two,they don't exactly get along with China,who does not exactly get along with us,and an enimy of my enimy must surely be my friend.in other words,Japan has more reasons to be allied than they do to be enimies

    • @richardpeterson3753
      @richardpeterson3753 Před 2 lety +4

      and aside from that,in WW2,we did do some deplorable shit to japan.up to and including dropping two nukes on them,that caused the created myth of godzilla.we have sence then made peace with them,and are proud to call them allies.after all,they was tactically smart enough to pull off the pearl harbor assault,they will make a powerful Ally in future wars.

  • @nunyabeeswax2638
    @nunyabeeswax2638 Před 2 lety +186

    I Have to admit as a former Army Light infantrymen, the concept of strapping US Marines to a rocket and firing them off the deck of a submarine like a Wile-E Coyote cartoon, Is greatly entertaining to me! I would definitely pay a dollar to see that happen!

    • @txgunguy2766
      @txgunguy2766 Před 2 lety +20

      How much would you pay to be the one who gets to push the launch button?

    • @kieranmilner1295
      @kieranmilner1295 Před 2 lety +15

      @@txgunguy2766 i wanna be a space marine

    • @SoshoKozadokaGojiraChargedUp
      @SoshoKozadokaGojiraChargedUp Před rokem

      *YEET*

    • @deth3021
      @deth3021 Před rokem

      @@kieranmilner1295 space guardian or nothing i fear.

    • @johngori9477
      @johngori9477 Před rokem +2

      Just remember...interservice rivalry being what it is if the Navy/Marines built something like that the army would come up with an equally silly notion to compete for funding. Something on the order of a hypersonic vehicle with a platoon of light infantry getting spit out in fire team sized capsules to decelerate and land???

  • @Bagas-114
    @Bagas-114 Před 2 lety +164

    I always wonder what make Project Aces, the developer for Ace Combat game franchise, get ideas for their Scinfaxi, Alicorn, etc, aircraft carrier submarine from. Remembering that the I-400 that their ancestor built is anything like them. But now I know

  • @hillarysemails1615
    @hillarysemails1615 Před 2 lety +11

    6:40 The could have used a braking chute deployed by the tail cone to slow the bomb to skim across the water on the recovery vessel's port side. Then inflate a float to keep the bomb buoyant until recovery.
    The deployed chute floating on the water's surface would visually indicate its position, and a radio emitter could beep every 2 minutes until receiving a signal to increase it's transmission rate to every 3-5 seconds or so.
    It could even release a colored shark repellant to deter "aquatic interference" with the crew while they pulled it back onto the sub.

    • @johnbockelie3899
      @johnbockelie3899 Před 2 lety

      And Marvel Comics has its " Helicarrier" flying aircraft carrier.

  • @th3_apex_gamer776
    @th3_apex_gamer776 Před 2 lety +3

    So basically the Hrimfaxi from Ace Combat? That'd be cool to see tbh

  • @thiccchungo1041
    @thiccchungo1041 Před 2 lety +109

    “This is the anti-sub patrol plane Blue Hound. Submarine detected by sonobuoy. Sound pattern analysis produces a match with the Scinfaxi”

  • @xiaoka
    @xiaoka Před 2 lety +29

    Admiral Nizmit definitely approves.

  • @Creator-Of-Chaos
    @Creator-Of-Chaos Před 2 lety +1

    Loved the video and information. While i have spent considerable time researching early 1900’s non-war ocean travel, i enjoy gaining knowledge into other realms of seafaring. Your presentation is excellent.

  • @nemomorningstar4827
    @nemomorningstar4827 Před 2 lety +2

    Lol when he said that the navy tried training sharks to surf in the waves I actually genuinely believed it

  • @aspireautomobile6315
    @aspireautomobile6315 Před 2 lety +124

    Random bicycle exists ..
    Next episode : US/ USSR planned about developing a two wheeled aircraft carrier

    • @seanbigay1042
      @seanbigay1042 Před 2 lety +4

      Dude -- Mobile Suit Gundam much? (In one anime from the franchise, the bad guys did have wheeled dreadnoughts that crunched their way through Earth's cities.)

    • @Mr.Robert1
      @Mr.Robert1 Před 2 lety +1

      @@seanbigay1042
      Real world???
      Video games.
      Don't get it twisted.

    • @shaider1982
      @shaider1982 Před 2 lety +1

      That's easy if they still have a Tsar Tank prototype.

    • @Joshua_N-A
      @Joshua_N-A Před 2 lety

      @@seanbigay1042 Victory

    • @ABW941
      @ABW941 Před 2 lety +2

      I remember thst there was a popular mechanics cover from long ago which depicted such a thing, a ship like two wheeled war machine.

  • @captain_commenter8796
    @captain_commenter8796 Před 2 lety +140

    1-400: *Nervous sweating*

  • @erasmus_locke
    @erasmus_locke Před rokem +3

    The GE design is probably the most realistic option.
    Although making a huge submarine is difficult it's a lot simpler than making a submarine and specialized Jets that land vertical.

  • @robertdragoff6909
    @robertdragoff6909 Před 2 lety +497

    Go for it! Submersible battleships, that’s something I’d like to see!
    I don’t know what’s cooler, a submersible aircraft carrier (like the last one with the twin sails) or a flying one…..
    The possibilities are endless!

    • @FoundAndExplained
      @FoundAndExplained  Před 2 lety +74

      lots of aircraft carrier concepts on my channel lately haha

    • @andresmarrero8666
      @andresmarrero8666 Před 2 lety +40

      Why not have both? Aircraft carriers in the sky, aircraft carriers on the water, and aircraft carriers underneath the sea. A triple whammy of aircraft carriers.

    • @mattandrews8528
      @mattandrews8528 Před 2 lety +16

      We already have flying ones, the tic tac ufo is just a small cigar shaped anti gravity carrier craft for smaller triangle and other shaped anti gravity craft. I served with the Navy and was right up beside and inside those ships, that’s why the recent ufo/UAP report pisses me off so much. I KNOW they’re lying again to just keep the coverup going and it pisses me off, but yeah they’re pretty cool once you start understanding what the black military world has actually been doing with aerospace projects that are ACTUALLY cutting edge, it’s miles past what most people think is even possible, if people only knew what we have RIGHT NOW, it would absolutely blow their mind.

    • @makemap
      @makemap Před 2 lety +17

      Submersible is cheaper because you don't need to constantly use fuel to keep an aircraft carrier flying in the sky. Unless your taking about Space Battle carriers. That is 10x better than either one.

    • @616CC
      @616CC Před 2 lety +4

      @@dustynmyatt2679 you my friend believe too much, the UFO phenomenon is pure theatre just another tool in the tool box, psychological warfare.
      Not designed for its citizens. It’s designed for the country’s enemies. Is it real is it not. Can we really attack them successfully etc.

  • @nicoladube4175
    @nicoladube4175 Před 2 lety +51

    GE got it right, its even more accurate today considering we could reduce the human footprint on board with the sub design to include more UAV

  • @asylumental
    @asylumental Před rokem +2

    The general electric flat deck design does seem the most feasible, and it does seem like it would serve a unique and beneficial purpose

  • @cursedhawkins1305
    @cursedhawkins1305 Před 2 lety

    This makes two Carrier concepts that never seen the light of day.

  • @captain_commenter8796
    @captain_commenter8796 Před 2 lety +443

    “It would be essentially a manned missile”
    WW2 Japan: *I WILL TAKE YOU ENTIRE STOCK*
    Edit: Yes, I am aware the Yokosuka MXY-7 Ohka existed

    • @nong333
      @nong333 Před 2 lety +17

      They actually already had that. Look up the Yokosuka MXY-7 Ohka

    • @captain_commenter8796
      @captain_commenter8796 Před 2 lety +13

      @@nong333 I know they had a human missile, but what I am implying is that the Japanese would want more of them, and the fighter said would be a good addition.

    • @mojoway9379
      @mojoway9379 Před 2 lety +1

      😂

    • @BenQuigley
      @BenQuigley Před 2 lety +1

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @Chris58851
      @Chris58851 Před 2 lety +8

      "How big would you like to build your submarine?"
      Japan Empire: Yes
      "Okay perhaps you don't get it, how big would you want your battleship be?"
      Japan Empire: Yes

  • @aurorajones8481
    @aurorajones8481 Před 2 lety +198

    There is a need for this concept. Sure the traditional aircraft carrier should be a visible powerhouse. But if real war erupts those will be primary targets. Using a force multitude they will fall in the early days. You'll be left with these that were kept secret and are not visible. So yea there is a need for these. They are secret and last ditch and for that reason we will most likely never see them.

    • @Nighthawk2401
      @Nighthawk2401 Před 2 lety +37

      Except they have zero purpose when SSGNs exist. A submarine's entire purpose is to never be detected. SSGNs are already announcing their position when firing, but at least they can do so underwater and quickly reposition; all this idea does is get them killed. What if the sub is found? Does it dive to save itself, leaving the aircraft to die? Or does it get both killed by waiting? The only benefit they could have over cruise missiles is precision, but is "precision" worth it when you can only carry 1/10 the firepower of the standard ~dozen VLS tubes? Cruise missiles don't need maintenance rooms, fuel/ammo storage, crews and their quarters, or large launching platforms/runways. All they need is a VLS, and however many reloads you want stored in all that unused space.

    • @Shinzon23
      @Shinzon23 Před 2 lety +5

      @@Nighthawk2401 if we're going to go the VLS missile system then why don't you mention the Arsenal ships at all because those things were essentially aircraft carrier sized platforms with a small section for the minimal crew to live and maintain the engines and possibly run air defenses if it had them, and the rest hundreds to thousands of VLS tubes with actual guidance and firing solutions controlled by a second ship.

    • @Nighthawk2401
      @Nighthawk2401 Před 2 lety +5

      @@Shinzon23
      A pretty cool idea, but also a little pointless. If you need 500 cruise missiles for land attack, use existing fleet supply vessels to rearm other VLS-armed ships at sea.
      Though at that point, it might be better to just let the air force handle it.

    • @davidbocquelet-dbodesign
      @davidbocquelet-dbodesign Před 2 lety +12

      If large fully autonomous stealthy drones can be launched while submerged, why not.

    • @Nighthawk2401
      @Nighthawk2401 Před 2 lety +16

      @@davidbocquelet-dbodesign
      It's still just an issue of role. A submarine's strength in land attack is it's ability to go behind enemy lines and hit large industrial and strategic targets then escape before the missiles even start landing. Strike craft are meant for precision CAS, and stealth aircraft will always have to pick between stealth and weapon storage. You don't go far behind enemy lines to kill a few tanks, why not bring tomahawks to hit major targets? And once again, retrieval of aircraft is a pain the ass.

  • @KergylKraft
    @KergylKraft Před 2 lety

    I just got the whole, "...depth, and I suggest you sail over to check out their brilliant documentary. Preferably while enjoying a sub sandwich with plenty of mustard." That's actually a really good play on words. It has a lot of DEPTH.

  • @lonestarwolfentertainment7184
    @lonestarwolfentertainment7184 Před 10 měsíci +1

    “Is this a Submarine?”
    “Really? Think they want ME in a submerged pressurized metal container?”

  • @IAmTheAce5
    @IAmTheAce5 Před 2 lety +46

    I still remember the old PC Crimson Skies submarine-carrier boss, the Ace Combat 7 Alicorn, and the original, now forgotten DeepAngel/Empire supercavitating submarine-aircraft-carrier Los Angeles

    • @christopherbays7719
      @christopherbays7719 Před 2 lety +1

      I only played the Xbox version
      Is it the same game?

    • @Muhammad_Rishad_Baldemar
      @Muhammad_Rishad_Baldemar Před 2 lety +3

      Salvation

    • @IAmTheAce5
      @IAmTheAce5 Před 2 lety +3

      @@christopherbays7719 No. It’s slightly less arcade-y with more in depth plane customization and more story, narrative and character depth.

    • @hyperx72
      @hyperx72 Před 2 lety +1

      @@christopherbays7719 Same universe though. Its basically the MechWarrior to xbox's MechAssault, if you get it.

    • @christopherbays7719
      @christopherbays7719 Před 2 lety

      I thought the dialogue was Amazing honestly. The opening with Nathan and Thibodaux was great

  • @sms9070
    @sms9070 Před 2 lety +44

    i hope they had some crisp white sheets in their cabins

  • @andrewgraham7659
    @andrewgraham7659 Před 2 lety +4

    It would be a great sci-fi novel or movie given that the plot could be changed.

  • @Getoffmycloud53
    @Getoffmycloud53 Před 2 lety +5

    Funny, vertical landing easier than horizontal landing on a pitching and rolling deck.
    Does that mean a ship stops rolling and pitching when aircraft land vertically?

  • @chasetoyama8184
    @chasetoyama8184 Před 2 lety +33

    Shit, it’s the Scinfaxi all over again.

  • @Chris-zf1de
    @Chris-zf1de Před 2 lety +27

    20:38 "Nizmit aircraft carriers" ?
    If he was still alive Admiral Nimitz would be scratching his head....

    • @livefully7568
      @livefully7568 Před 2 lety +3

      Jules Verne would stroke his beard.

    • @zetamafia911
      @zetamafia911 Před 2 lety +1

      The mispronouncing of such a legendary name and ship line makes me cringe so hard. Shame this channel could be so much better if he actually bothered to edit/fact check his own work.

    • @berekhalfhand4775
      @berekhalfhand4775 Před 2 lety

      @@zetamafia911 Not to mention aircraft "hangers". All this supposed aviation research and a primary schooler's error.

    • @Getoffmycloud53
      @Getoffmycloud53 Před 2 lety

      Don’t mess with the Nizmit!

    • @SlideRulePirate
      @SlideRulePirate Před 2 lety

      Came looking for this comment.

  • @metaleater9
    @metaleater9 Před 2 lety +8

    Silo launched aircraft is actually a really good idea if applied to permanent fortifications.

    • @allangibson8494
      @allangibson8494 Před 4 měsíci

      Look up “zero length launch” fighters. They were designed as a counter strike response in Germany during the Cold War.

    • @CrusaderSports250
      @CrusaderSports250 Před 3 měsíci

      ​Unfortunately they still required runways for landing, though if you had used the likes of the Anglo French Jaguar the runway wouldn't need much preparation.

  • @davidhewson8605
    @davidhewson8605 Před 4 měsíci

    Another fascinating presentation on submersible aircraft carriers. Again thanks. Dave

  • @mikesdungeon8398
    @mikesdungeon8398 Před 2 lety +102

    Note: "surfshark does not officially support the mig-25".... Well dang that sucks 😫

  • @bennymutant
    @bennymutant Před 2 lety +68

    Typing Nimitz wrong is easy. But actually saying "Nitmiz" ? Oh dear.

    • @virginiahansen320
      @virginiahansen320 Před 2 lety +22

      I believe he said "Nizmit". Not sure if that's worse...

    • @bennymutant
      @bennymutant Před 2 lety +4

      @@virginiahansen320 worse!

    • @AubriGryphon
      @AubriGryphon Před 2 lety +25

      "Grum Man"
      "North Rope"
      "Nizmit"
      I'm pretty sure he's doing this on purpose.

    • @juntingiee2602
      @juntingiee2602 Před 2 lety +4

      @@AubriGryphon north rope LAMO

    • @ddegn
      @ddegn Před 2 lety +8

      Don't forget the *guy row* stabilized recovery system.
      I have a feeling the narrator and the script writer are not the same.

  • @ItsConnorF
    @ItsConnorF Před rokem +2

    General Electric to the other companies with concepts: You make submarines into aircraft carriers I make aircraft carriers into submarines, we are not the same!

  • @KaiCalimatinus
    @KaiCalimatinus Před 2 lety +54

    The Atlantis Class Experimental comes to mind, very interesting...
    In this era of stol/vtol options like osprey for shore landing and f35/ existing marine Harriers, vertical take off and recovery no longer seems as extreme as nose up rocket launches and space-x style rocket recovery - I also noticed a lot of your modeling includes using sea harriers as the operational aircraft.

    • @lordrefrigeratorintercoole288
      @lordrefrigeratorintercoole288 Před rokem +1

      ah you mean from Supreme Commander?

    • @KaiCalimatinus
      @KaiCalimatinus Před rokem

      @@lordrefrigeratorintercoole288 Haha exactly.
      Dumping an entire storage capacity of bombers on an unprepared strong point or vulnerable force was always fun.

  • @clownsey3382
    @clownsey3382 Před 2 lety +41

    Ace Combat veterans: *Hey, I've seen this before!*

  • @OmnificentAspirations
    @OmnificentAspirations Před 11 měsíci

    It was her clever to continue to show images of navy crafts while talking about the VPN for your sponsors. That way when people are skipping through the video with a preview they think they have skipped past the commercial but it's still on it. Bravo. Lol

  • @drakkenmensch
    @drakkenmensch Před 2 lety

    I just love it when a major logistics issue (such as reloading the plane on the launching rack) gets dismissed as "somehow"

  • @RichterBelmont2235
    @RichterBelmont2235 Před 2 lety +34

    We've gotten closer to having the Alicorn in real life.

  • @FoundAndExplained
    @FoundAndExplained  Před 2 lety +51

    Huge thank you to Scott from Aerospace Projects Review who collected the many schematics in this video.
    He has a great new book on the SR-71 Black Bird: amzn.to/2Sbum7s
    Also check out Mustards video on the Japanese carrier here: czcams.com/video/gxyk84t4Q8w/video.html

    • @vectorpacer2063
      @vectorpacer2063 Před 2 lety

      1 question dr fae where do you get the animations do you make it or open source or do you buy it or is it a secret its ok

    • @vectorpacer2063
      @vectorpacer2063 Před 2 lety

      @Dark Shade015 she ? Nice tho those animations are dope

    • @FoundAndExplained
      @FoundAndExplained  Před 2 lety +2

      @@vectorpacer2063 I make all the animations myself :)

    • @noobepro_7146
      @noobepro_7146 Před 2 lety

      Correction : Nimitz Class not Nizmit class aircraft carrier

    • @adamdubin1276
      @adamdubin1276 Před 2 lety +1

      General Electric and General Dynamics are two completely separate companies.

  • @rouenmalone1288
    @rouenmalone1288 Před 2 lety

    Never seen your videos before. Your banter and word play is hallerious.

  • @bradymenting5120
    @bradymenting5120 Před 2 lety +5

    it's stuff like this that makes me wish the Goodyear inflatable planes were formally adopted, so that a submarine could surface and deploy a special ops team with inflatable planes.
    it'd be like an SAS wet dream.

  • @TheAutisticOwl
    @TheAutisticOwl Před 2 lety +28

    Can't wait for you do Japan's I400 submarine.

  • @AnkitKumar-fo2iz
    @AnkitKumar-fo2iz Před 2 lety +6

    He never misses the chance of teasing MUSTARD 🤣🤣

    • @FoundAndExplained
      @FoundAndExplained  Před 2 lety +1

      I think Mustard is the best channel

    • @AnkitKumar-fo2iz
      @AnkitKumar-fo2iz Před 2 lety

      @@FoundAndExplained no bro you can't say that ..yes he have some quality videos but yet the level of detail and quality in your videos are still comparable ..also he uploads once in a 1-2 months.. so for me your channel is best

  • @arrjay2410
    @arrjay2410 Před 2 lety

    The idea of submarine battleships is fascinating. I can't get enough of the French sub Surcouf in WWII.
    I had no idea that the idea of a submarine aircraft carrier was so developed.
    I am surprised that none were built.
    The idea of launching a plane like a missile from the same tubes as a missile is an intriguing one. The big catch being, of course, how to recover the aircraft and pilot.
    Fascinating as usual.

  • @mossryder
    @mossryder Před 2 lety

    Love these historical engineering videos. Everything old is new again!

  • @skookapalooza2016
    @skookapalooza2016 Před 2 lety +19

    The drones from a missile silo was exactly what I had in mind when I envisioned the submerged aircraft carrier concept.

  • @flipadavis
    @flipadavis Před 2 lety +44

    This would be infinity more possible today with the F-35B VTOL.

    • @valian8985
      @valian8985 Před 2 lety +1

      F35 are so bad that carrying brick would be more usefull....

    • @williamyoung9401
      @williamyoung9401 Před 2 lety +2

      That whole program needs to die. We're spending all our military budget on that one f'ing program (not to mention fuel and maintenance costs), while China diversifies their military, we try and put everything of ours into one plane...

    • @artemvektor1
      @artemvektor1 Před 2 lety +3

      That type of submarine wouldn't be effective because with square body they can't descent to a serious depth.

    • @thureintun1687
      @thureintun1687 Před 2 lety

      @@valian8985 how do you know? Any firsthand experience sir?

  • @fuge74
    @fuge74 Před rokem +2

    I think there is some plausibility for a sensitive cargo transport. basically the idea is that you build a large not so stealthy-stealthy submarine that has a large deck like this, but it is designed to deploy a lot of cargo in an amphibious assault.

  • @eraz0rhead
    @eraz0rhead Před rokem

    Minor nitpick : As far as I can tell, General Dynamics/Electric Boat is a completely separate company from General Electric.
    GE was founded by Thomas Edison in 1892.
    Electric Boat was founded in 1899 and acquired later by General Dynamics (which itself was not founded till 1952).

  • @johnjensen2217
    @johnjensen2217 Před 2 lety +10

    @17:47, GE has never been known as General Dynamics or Electric Ships. General Dynamics still exists and is one of the top defense contractors in the US. There is a division of General Dynamics called Electric Boat that designs and manufactures submarines for the US Navy. General Electric could well have been involved in this project but it would have been for the supply of reactors and propulsion equipment for the sub.

    • @KevinMcNulty
      @KevinMcNulty Před 2 lety +1

      Just made the same comment before coming across yours. I used to work for GD, and it has never been a part of GE.

  • @pimpinaintdeadho
    @pimpinaintdeadho Před 2 lety +8

    @20:41 That's the *Nimitz* Class. Not Nizmit lol.

  • @riskoffdead6321
    @riskoffdead6321 Před 2 lety

    I love how he mentioned Mustards channel in a discret but understandable way.

  • @guylo88
    @guylo88 Před rokem +1

    GE's design seems to be the most practical to me, turinging a Air Craft carrier into a submarine and use STOVAL aircraft as its airwing.

  • @sean.durham999
    @sean.durham999 Před 2 lety +7

    Love Mustard. One of the best CZcams channels along with Windover Productions.

  • @andreibaciu7518
    @andreibaciu7518 Před 2 lety +10

    "Oh it's a video on the ww2 Japanese sub that could carry 3 bombers..."
    "Carrying 28 fighter jets..."
    "...excuse me?"

  • @duh...4460
    @duh...4460 Před 2 lety +1

    This ship should be no stretch of the imagination. Just makes sense at this point in history.

  • @danielwadsworth9923
    @danielwadsworth9923 Před 3 měsíci

    the way how he just casually drops TR-3B at 4:14 in the background ad is frigging epic

  • @sigmar2331
    @sigmar2331 Před 2 lety +17

    *"When the ocean start singing in latin"*

  • @captain_commenter8796
    @captain_commenter8796 Před 2 lety +19

    You should do the French submarine cruiser the Surcouf!

  • @aadityasharma100
    @aadityasharma100 Před rokem

    Superb research dude :. Thanks

  • @wuodanstrasse5631
    @wuodanstrasse5631 Před rokem +1

    I am a Marine Colonel and a retired Professor of Electro-Optics, Plasma physics and Quantum Electrodynamics, so I do know very elementary high school level physics. A flat surface, to an extreme degree a lage flat surface is inherently very weak. The steel required to sufficiently strengthen such a large surface would completely destroy any possible balance to the submarine.

  • @mikesmith1290
    @mikesmith1290 Před 2 lety

    The animations in this video are next level!

  • @barrybend7189
    @barrybend7189 Před 2 lety +27

    Wait so Space Battleship Yamato Cosmo Zero's folding storage system was inspired by the modified seadart fighter in 9:40? 15:11 in the ova Macross Zero there was a modified sub which uses similar launch methods for its fighter launches.

  • @rudysmith1445
    @rudysmith1445 Před 2 lety +15

    Hay F&E, I love your videos, they're suuuper informative! I just wanna let you know that "Hangers" means like coat hangers. The airplane storage place is called a "hangar".
    Grumman is pronounced "Gruh-man"
    and Gyro is pronounced "Jai-Ro" not "Guy-ro".
    just lettin' you know! 💜

    • @DancezWthSmurfz
      @DancezWthSmurfz Před 2 lety +7

      also Nimitz is pronounced NYM-ITZ... not NYZ-MIT lol

  • @jacobbuzza7907
    @jacobbuzza7907 Před rokem +8

    The reason the submarine aircraft carrier didn't take off( pun intended) was because of Submarine Doctrine. Doctrine for Subs are to be about as silent as possible and for your only warning that it was there was when you heard the torpedo's propeller kick in. They value stealth over thing else. The idea of spending so much time above the water as a sitting duck just doesn't jibe with submarine's strengths and weaknesses. THAT is why Submarine Aircraft Carriers, even though a cool idea never took off.

    • @tylerdavis9826
      @tylerdavis9826 Před rokem +3

      While that is one small reason, it is not the deciding factor like you claim. You’re horribly misinformed. The U.S. military absolutely were looking for a way to quietly get aircraft into an area, the fact they could land, and slip back beneath the waves to safety is what they wanted. Which is exactly what a sub like this could do. Would you rather launch planes from a carrier where your enemy can literally watch you fly back and have your location and track you? Or would you rather be able to go back, land, and disappear? Your opinion isn’t fact, stop presenting it as such.

    • @rhodesboyson1700
      @rhodesboyson1700 Před rokem +2

      @@tylerdavis9826 do you know how long it would take this submarine to store the aircraft and dive? :) The while idea is poorly conceived.

    • @thomasvontom
      @thomasvontom Před rokem

      @@rhodesboyson1700 I think today. With the technology with vertical take off. The harrier tec now moved into things like the F-35. Maybe you don't get to a full dedicated carrier. But could you make room for a few jets. But I do think with cruise missiles for example. I mean you can launch them and not have to surface to recover. So that is a fair point. I think with the sub/carrier. Maybe the issue is this. Without the biggest and toughest kids on the block slugging fists. Like the world wars. Maybe not untill a war like that comes around again. Would the idea be explored and truly found out if it works. Our carrier groups have not had to slug it out with a equal with all the same abilities since the second world war. I don't know how it would turn out. But I think its something that should be re examined with the seriousness that it was in the past.

    • @rhodesboyson1700
      @rhodesboyson1700 Před 11 měsíci

      @@thomasvontom I've forgot what I said :P but, I do wonder what is the point. It's really only a load of crap. The vast expenditure isn't worth it, in reality we don't need this war machine. My dad just died of cancer he got working on UK subs. Sent to die for absolutely nothing.

    • @thomasvontom
      @thomasvontom Před 11 měsíci

      @@rhodesboyson1700 Well. Sorry for you loss dude. I don't know what the nature of it would be if it worked. But I think it's a idea worth exploring further. Sorry for you loss.

  • @davidewing5605
    @davidewing5605 Před 2 lety

    This is amazing!! Dave

  • @joelnord4699
    @joelnord4699 Před 2 lety +11

    "be warned, this one's kind of silly" that's why we're at this channel lol

    • @ryanlunde575
      @ryanlunde575 Před 2 lety +1

      Exactly. I can easily forgive a few errors for these beautifully rendered videos of insane ideas people have had.

    • @bobthebuilder1360
      @bobthebuilder1360 Před 2 lety

      I feel like it cpuld work now

  • @cenccenc946
    @cenccenc946 Před 2 lety +3

    AKA: the most expensive way possible to put a bomb on target.

  • @user-ft3jq5vi2l
    @user-ft3jq5vi2l Před 2 lety +1

    Ah, finally the idea of the U-Kreuzer returns!

  • @joejoemyo
    @joejoemyo Před 2 lety +1

    Oh come on we already made the Harrier, this was practically a match made in heaven

  • @vennonetes4805
    @vennonetes4805 Před 2 lety +6

    Oh gosh, just 46 seconds in and the animations are already so many and all so smooth. Well done!

  • @foxgaming76yt24
    @foxgaming76yt24 Před 2 lety +7

    Whoever predicted in the previous post that it might be an aircraft carrier, bravo.

  • @jpotter2086
    @jpotter2086 Před 2 lety

    Captain Nemo comin' back HARD!

  • @anandsharma7430
    @anandsharma7430 Před rokem

    This is the first time I'm watching one of your videos. Your segues into sponsorship and the dad jokes therein are admirable.

  • @hughie522
    @hughie522 Před 2 lety +11

    Awesome video! I do really wanna learn about submarine battleships now! I remember that both the British and French experimented with putting gun turrets on submarines in WW1 and WW2 respectively :).

    • @hanzzel6086
      @hanzzel6086 Před 2 lety +1

      Yes, though they where considered to be cruisers. Drachinfel has good videos on both (the French one is called "Surcouf" and I think the British ones where the M15?).

  • @Porelorexeus
    @Porelorexeus Před 2 lety +7

    The tail sitting circular wing design would be perfect for a submarine launch tub.

    • @livefully7568
      @livefully7568 Před 2 lety

      Martin's V-Bat and electric version have been unnoticed for so long with best drone desgin by leaps and bounds.

  • @Wall_T3mbok4556
    @Wall_T3mbok4556 Před 2 lety +1

    This is just the Alicorn from Ace Combat 7 without railguns, from the 1950's-1960's and has a boxy shape

  • @DerekJones1081962
    @DerekJones1081962 Před 4 měsíci

    Having been a cold war, Era "boomer" sailor, I can tell you that the more numerous and larger the surface area required to seal that area, the more likely that seawater inleakage would be insurmountable.

  • @KoNNetXSatomi
    @KoNNetXSatomi Před 2 lety +5

    Metal Gear: who needs planes when you got a railgun and mechs