Hey Del, much respect on the "ease" you demonstrate when performing delicate tasks. Master mechanic! You were "spot on" when you mentioned the dealer response. Had the same problem several years ago on a bike. The dealer recommended that I "upgrade" the entire unit to a pengel unit, which I did. Better unit but, expensive. Never thought to rebuild myself, this is why I love your channel! Love the humor as well! Love the new "Busa" sticker!!!!!!! Too funny!!!!
Hi Del, Yes, I've been pleased to find that I can do a fair amount of basic maintenance on my Harley, thanks to the help of you and other CZcamsrs showing the way. I like riding more than wrenching and I don't aspire to become a qualified mechanic, but it's very interesting to see how bikes and parts function and how service jobs are done! I really appreciate the effort that you and Penny put it, thanks mate!
Fantastic video...thanks for putting this up. Just rebuilt my fuel tap with the kit today and followed this video step by step. Turned out to be quite an easy job in the end and gave me a chance to inspect my air filter and fuel filter too.
Nice one glad to see you both having some fun "on set". My bike has a similar vacuum valve but it's mounted on the carb fuel rail and the petcock on the tank is just a 3 position valve. Good seeing how things are done on newer & different bikes. Fuel gauge, what a luxury on a bike!
Delboy's Garage was the firs I saw with reparing the Bandit, so thanks a lot for your help and your cool work. I'm not so good, 'cause I'm back motorriding for 20 years ago. But you help me a lot. Best wishes and take care, Roman
Roman S. Hi Roman, its good to hear from you my friend, and im glad the videos can help you out... welcome back to biking and enjoy the roads buddy... all the best.. Del.
so glad i came across your video.... not often you get someone giving the exact step by step instruction... this has helped me immensely... thank you.. you will be my first stop if i get anymore problems with my bandit 1200.
Thanks John, settling in nicely now, still got stuff everywhere, and the garage is still full of toot....but we're getting there... you're right on the bike care....keeping your bike tip top brings you closer to it and also helps you know how its doing which gives you time up front to make plans for those never ending expenses like consumables and servicing..not only that, it ads a wider path of enjoyment to owning your bike...ride safe chap.. cheers Del.
Del thanks for putting these videos up it has inspired me to go back to night school to do a motorcycle mantainance course loved the bandit rebuild keep it up
Thanks for the tips . It really is great that you take the time to show everyone how to do these jobs . I will be more confident doing this job when the time comes. Taking the petrol tap handle off first is the same on the gsxr GHJ before taking the tank off. Fumes off my tank was from a perished fuel/ pipe . Thanks both .
Hi mate... to clean out yer tank...chuck in a fist full of ball bearings or lead shot...add a pint of water..seal up all the hols with duct tape (taking the fuel tap out first)..then shake the shit out of it for ten minutes til yer arms fall off ..then open up the tank holes, drain and wash it all out...keep rinsing till its totally clean...then let it dry open in a warm place so all the moisture dries out...then use "Petseal" rubber solution to line the tank afterwards..job done..good luck, Del
Just so you know. 7 years on (at a guess from the comments) and this video will still be helping people. I am about to start work on my bandit N600 and this is going to help me no end. Thanks dude. Great video, I will be watching this back a few times. :) Take care.
Hey! Love your videos! They have helped me out a lot. I'm in California and ride a Honda VTX. Did the stem bearings a couple weeks back - time for the petcock now. Thanks!
still ALOT of gd info on this and really helpfull in 2019 - you sir are doing a really great job with this build help vids - I hope to see more of them, even thou I love the busa build aswell thumbs up!
del just cleaned out my carbs for the first time on my bandit 600 yesterday and i couldne believe the grit in the float bowls took me all day to do the job just took my time with my haynes, was getting a little rough running at low revs thought maybe pilots blocked and some where , used carb cleaner away from any rubber bits and compressed air. ballanced carbs when fitted but cant get out to test run as rain rain rain today joys of biking cheers del
Hi Peter, thanks for that perfect explanation, I couldn't put it better myself ...it's exciting to see such hunger and enthusiasm from the new blood and gladdens my old heart that bikers will survive into the future LOL! Thanks for your input, mate, wise words, well said - Del
Hey Penny and Del, came across this one from the depths of time! Although you now have a bigger garage, better video and audio equipment and a more refined approach, the raw appeal of your videos is here in plain sight. Really great job of instructing on the task. Thanks again! Take care, be well and ride safe!
Thanks so much for your kind words buddy.. i never get time to watch the old videos, shame as it reminds me of simpler times and a more friendly youtube..!
Hey Del , just a quick one, thanks for the vids its given me confidence to have a go myself , serviced me bandit no problems thanks mate keep up the good work . Andy
Hi Byron, I hardly think that would be the case! The whole amazing thing with these videos since we started has been people who didn't think they could do anything discovering that they actually can! ... most of us have un-tapped skills we just don't know we have! Thanks for your every present support, mate, Del
Fair play very well done, informative, camera work tidy, just got bandit 600n with carb over feul issues, am going to carry out rebuild of feul tap after watching your video. Great job.
Sonic bathed my carbs today, lots of green scaly crud removed, brass fine brush used to lightly defer heavy deposits, refitted all after assessing jets, diaphragms, damper condition, noticed carb heater plugs to stop icing all disconnected and tops of plugs removed/broken been advised from club that OK to leave deleted, (your thoughts greatly appreciated, it will be my daily driver, but don't really have very harsh Winters, probably won't use if if we do). Are there positional /jet numbers/ emulsion tube and main jet configurations that need adhering to as it looks like these carbs have been apart before, (witness marks on jet slots) probably wise to get a manual also. Thanks for your channel, was watching your wheel bearing video this evening, very well done again. 👍🏻Looking forward to learning more from you. Andy Rayner. 👍🏻🏴
Alright delboy! This is class , just got an unused bandit '00, 600 for free off a mate's. Cousin, I've been off bikes for about 15 years so am bursting to go, she's been left in the weather for 10 years so lots to do , and you teach just how I like to learn , I'm going to give it a blast myself , never been to college but I'm doing a degree on you tube. Professor Del, cheers! Mick in cork IRL.
Ayup Mick, good to hear from you fellah and what a fun project that sounds to be! Nothing like doing it yourself and a free bike, what's not to like?! Good luck with it me ol' mate, get stuck in and have a good time... all the best D&P
Hi Matt, thank you for your kind comments, have a look through there's a few bandit vids in the back catalogue that may help you ... with the tank, it fits on to a 'shoe' at the front which has a rubber cover, this gives the tank some isolation from vibration, so yes, there will be a very small amount of play at the front as the bracket moves around in it's rubber mount...good luck with your new bike, always feel free to ask if you need any advice, happy to help - Cheers, mate, Del
Good tip on dry seals there....my tap wasnt dry so it was just corrosion and wear....but laid up bikes have lots of odd problems.. and thats one very good remedy for all o-ring seals, petrol and oil...!
Took the tank off my Zx6r the other day to get to some wiring. bent the fuel tap in the process, started pissing petrol everywhere, then put a spanner on my battery followed by exciting sparks. luckily no fire... refurbished another 2nd hand tap the other day, looks like I got it right but thanks for the tip with the seal onto the tank!
Hi mate, I've got a pengel tap in my toolbox, was great for passing more fuel when I was running a 1260 kit on my old EFE, but after 2yrs leaked like a sieve, so I re-kitted it using old inner tube rubber, then chucked it in my toolbox - thanks for watching, mate, Del
another top vid young man.... the scream face was the highlight though lol... seriously its good to see whas involved if i ever need to do the tap on my bandit..
Great video my bandit 6 I broke the tap while messing with the tank so I've ordered new tap 16 pounds on eBay this video will come in handy great help as always
Thanks very much for this mate. my bike hasnt been starting, and think its a fuel tap issue, looking forward to taking it apart and having a look! Thanks again, ill let you know if it starts running!
Did you get around to taking it apart? My bike ran perfect on Tuesday but wouldn’t start the next day and once I got it started with the throttle open it would stall on idle. Used a funnel with gas to bypass the petcock and filter and then it seemed to run fine. So gonna try filter first and if that doesn’t help I’ll look at the petcock.
Very helpful. I had a leaky petcock on my '77 GS550 after rebuilding it and this video helped me see that I had reassembled the vacuum side incorrectly. Tomorrow will tell whether I've corrected it or not. Thanks, mate!
Hi Chris, at least you attempted it mate, and didn't just hand it to the dealer...the problem with the Discovery loads is that they are restricted to 7mins on the video uploads, I guess it's a continuity thing, so this would fall way outside that...I tried suggesting doing them in 2-3 parts, but they can't do that either ... they've got about 24 of my vids in stock to edit down and use of which they seem to have loaded only a dozen so far ..thanks for watching, buddy, cheers, Del
This is very helpful with what we’re trying to do. The lock will not open on it. It’s been sitting for a hot minute and the gas is more than likely bad af. (Yes, we’ve tried everything to open it) without destroying the lock, we’re thinking that if we take the gas tank off, leave it upside down for a prolonged period of time, the lock will get lubricated enough to open. I got meager knowledge on the subject. Just got the bike and it needs to be looked at but we know it needs work.
Hi Joe....ok, it makes sense that you should first check for stuck floats, little tap on each bowl can often cure it, you have a vacuum tap, so check you haven't left it on prime 'PRI', & once you've cured the leak, no need to change the oil as long as the level is correct, if loads of petrol in it, then it will be overfilled.. also check the air box drain plug,make sure it's not gummed up & that no petrol has drained back into the drain box..good luck with that, hope it helps, mate, Del
Ha ha, 'Result'...well done buddy, and from that little list of checks and fixes you know yer stuff too......good going buddy, glad it worked for you...
Hi mate, always happy to help others learn, not sure exactly what you mean when you say general mechanical knowledge, mostly that is something you build over years by using common sense mixed with some straight forward technical learning from manuals or videos and just getting involved and practicing ...I'm afraid there's no short circuit to knowledge you have to learn it stick by stick, do lots of small jobs, learning as you go & some day it will build up into a bank of knowledge - cheers, Del
:o) after many many years of doing all my own repairs servicing and rebuilding on my bikes i do know a bit. this one almost beat me..lol.. in all that time the only thing ive done with a petcock is turn it on .. so your vid was a god-send..cheers mate ..oh by the way while i was waiting for the repair kit i made a gasket out of cardboard and fitted it over what was left of the diaphragm it held it in place and got me to work all week hehe ..its surprising what you can do in an emergency!!
Hi Sal, well perhaps it may just serve to instil a sense of urgency into the young bronze ... lest he have a ticket to write AND a mess to deal with LOL! ... Looking forward to seeing you on Sunday, hun (but don't worry I'll go before I leave home!)...D&P
Hey! I have a Suzuki GSF1200 Bandit. Almost 57k Miles, and I am experiencing this fuel smell, and have observed the fuel leaking from the petcock. I will be rebuilding my fuel petcock this weekend - I appreciate you making this video!
Hye buddy... i have to tell you, im not evne sure if this fix was the route of the prblem.. i stopped the fuel smell for a week..but then it came back... and in the end, i traced it to a tiny tiny micro pin hole in the tank itself... ill explain! The Bandit tanks site the fuel tap down in a cavity at the bottom left of the tank....this cavity is the veyr lowest point of all....and any water that gets in from rain around the filler cap, or what ever other means, will just sink to the bottom and sit in this cavity for years....and in the end.. it will breach the rubber coating and rust its way through.... this is what happend to my tank... so before you rip your tap apart, have a very close look all around the tap hole at that bottom section it sits in and make sure there are no pin holes of rust spots.... in the end i picked up a new (second hand) tank from eBay for £30, slapped my old tap in and it fixed it.. Hope that helps buddy.. good luck with it... Del.
Hey delboy love your Vids, I don't know what to do with my bandit though, it has been plagued by this fuel leaking problem. After I failed to fix it myself, I took it to a proper bike shop, who are known for their work on bandits. $600, They rebuilt the carbs, rejetted the carbs, and synced them. I took the bike on a trip, worked flawlessly but yesterday only a week after it started leaking fuel into the crankcase And floor. Idk what to do now.
Oh! Forgot to update you. The leak was from the oring that connects the assembly to the tank - the oring had somehow fused to the paint, and the paint had chipped away from the tank causing my leak. I cleaned off the paint from the area where the oring should contact, and with a new oring, my leak was solved.
@@Moonfleet41 it arrived today from M&P yeh code is fck24 . Thanks buddy Yeh the slingshot is a cool bike seems so much smaller to the slabby but I think I will enjoy it. Just having a rewatch before getting to it .
Hi Ted, I left the rain water pipe off because it wasn't on there in the first place, the little there is just drains down behind the air box as it's a rat bike I'm not bothered, but thanks for you amazing observation - you legend! Thanks Del
I love the mad banter between penny&you :-) Such a loverly couple :-). Bloody hell, youve got my plyers ha ha, i cant remember where i got mine from but they are really handy little sods :-) Smashing job :-)
Hi Del ok I have made some new discoveries with my suzuki bandit so like we spoke about before i filled up it and took it for another spin it still rode poorly at lower revs but as they hit about 5k revs it took off like it used to! However after about 20 mins it started playing up again even at high revs, so I took another look at it anyways I found out that what I believe is a fault in cylinder 1, (the one on far left of the engine block when ur sat in the seat i think) I checked that the HT lead sent a spark to the plug by leaving a little bit of distance which it did between them and then I checked the plug itself again on the side of the engine block and it gave a healthy spark, now heres the thing! when I totally disconnected that spark plug from the HT lead it made absolutely NO DIFFERENCE to the bike running whatsoever, the revs stayed the same and it still sounded awful but just kept on ticking over as it was before I disconnected it,so now I reconnected that one and did the same with spark plug 4 or cylinder 4 so to speak and as I disconnected this one and the bike spluttered and died,so I now know the problem is with cylinder 1 so I went back to cylinder one and checked the spark plug again it seemed like it was covered in fuel and oil, twice I run the bike with it in there and twice I removed it and checked it both times it had oil mixed with fuel as I dabbed it on tissue to be sure, I believe it was so wet that it could not ignite now the final thing I did was that I actually fired the bike up with that cylinder open and held my hand above it within moments it got damp and i thought I could see a little white smoke coming out of it too, but when I tried the same thing with cylinder 4 my hand stayed completely dry I remember giving it a oil top up recently as it was a lil bit under the full mark but im wondering if I have put a bit too much oil in and and it could have increased the pressure somehow, maybe forcing oil past the seals into the combustion chamber? any ideas, will it need new seals and a new gasket maybe? would it be advisable for me to buy a compression kit to test and finally if they have gone is there anything I can just put into the engine to seal it up like a liquid or will I have to do a proper job with more seals and a new head gasket if that's the case. I also took a photo down in cylinder one and could see some oil around near where the spark plug sits in the lower part of the cylinder. One more thing when I first tried to start it this morning it went BANG real loud made me jump!!! Sorry for the massive message but im just trying to give you as much information as I can. Thanks again!
+Jimbo Deano Hi Jimbo, please don't apologies for the message... information is all useful..... what you are describing, sounds to me, like Pot 1 just isn't working. It's not firing, even though a spark is going in there.... and this can be because the valves are not sealing and allowing compression to occur , so the oily residue is simply un-burnt fuel mixture that isn't being ignited! The fist thing to check is the compression... and best to do all four Pots... it's not so important how much compression you are getting, just whether it's the same in each cylinder! So fast forwarding, if you find Pot1 has extremely low compression, it could be an open valve due to a closed up shim gap. When was the last time had a valve clearance check?? Check them, and set them correctly... then do the copmression test AGAIN. If this cures it, then that's what it was! If it doesn't, then it could be more serious, such as, perhaps, piston rings...to check for this... stick a couple of teaspoons of oil down the open plug hole of Pot1 and repeat the compression test again... if that cures it, then you have either a broken ring, or a damaged piston. Check those things, and let me know buddy... it has to be something like that !
Hi mate, well done on saving yourself some dosh - sadly I can't help you with a clutch adjustment video as I don't have a 600 Bandit on which to demonstrate and as you may know, the 1200 is hydraulic so would be no use to you... for simple jobs like that, all the info. you need is in any decent manual ...good luck with it, safe riding, Del
Hi mate, I initially wondered that, but on reflection probably they don't care -there are plenty of customers out there who don't want to get their hands dirty and I only ever cover basic maintenance and bike care, I never encroach into the territory of the technician as I truly believe that that level of know how is not something you can portray in a video and I would never want to lead viewers down a road they can't get out of, so I keep it simple - cheers Del
Hi Joe,provided it is petrol & not condensation,then it sounds like a stuck float..what is your 'K3' - GSXR presumably & is it carbs or injection? If carbs, you could have a stuck float causing the feed to gravity drain into the cylinder through an open inlet valve, but that would more usually run down the side of the cylinders into the sump (so your oil will smell of petrol)..but fluid coming out of exhausts is more usually just condensation water,caused by cold steel vs. hot gases etc. ..Del
Hey Del, excellent video as always, pure and simple. You seem to be on a roll with your almost-introductory videos that you're aiming towards the new riders, such as myself. I like to think I'm learning a lot from yourself and by doing work on my bike, but I can't really keep up if I'm talking to someone who really knows their stuff. For instance, I was wondering if you'd consider dedicating a bit of time towards making a video or videos that cover general mechanical knowledge.
Every thing you did to the bandit is the most common problems Thanks again this is my problem this week. This and the fact the fist owner had the wrong oil plug and the counter sprocket came lose is how I got my bandit for about what the exhaust cost
Hi mate, look up the videos in the back catalogue of Rat Bike Scrim - it is basically Army scrim net spray glued on in two layers then drowned in blackboard paint with a brush - makes it rock hard like Kevlar LOL!
Mines started recently750. I couldnt really see there which tap feed was for fuel pipe and which was overflow andbwhich part of rhe tp they atrached to
Nice demo. I think the brown grunge is rust, accumulated near the bottom of the tank because water impurities will layer out at the bottom and tend to cause rust there. There is a lot of mysticism surrounding the topic of fuel stabilizer and alcohol. It makes sense that the alcohol present in fuel stabilizer allows more water to dissolve in the upper fuel layer, reducing the tendency for water to layer out and cause localized rust at the bottom. Alcohol gets blamed for a lot of problems but reality is more complex.
Hi mate, there's a pair of those in every Suzuki tool kit and I've got half a dozen pairs having robbed them from bikes over the years, like you say, they are expandable and expendable! ... which is way better than Snap-On!
Hi Del thanks again for your advice last month I have just sent the money via Paypal and have now fixed the problem for good on my bandit, it WAS the HT lead and coil but it was only intermittent sparking and every time i tested it it worked however the other day cylinder 1 died again and this time died for good! I retested the lead and spark plug and there was no spark I must have been truly unlucky to see it working when testing it last month! so anyways I bought a new coil which was 18 quid on ebay rigged it up and now it rides like a dream the other coil looks like its seen better days too so im gonna change that one at the end of this month I had to buy a coil with the ht leads attached as they do not come separately which you probably already know I just thought i should tell you as you said its probs that at the very beginning it was sooooooooooo simple i jus wished when i first tested it that the plug would not have sparked as it would have saved me so much time but never mind done now :) thanks again! Jimmy
+Jimbo Deano Jimbo, that's such good news mate, im glad you got it sussed, and yeah, isn't it a bugger when something wont expose itself when you test it.. its the sort of thing that gives some garages a bad name...custom brings in a fault.. no fault found, hand it back.. fault returns..aaagghh lol If you can afford it buddy, and you ever want to upgrade then, you can buy Dyna coils, and Taylor leads, (they come separate and you plug them in, unlike the factory moulded ones)....and they have so much beef that you'll never have ignition woes again... pricey, but a permanent solution and still cheaper than new ones from the dealer... Ride safe mate, glad we could help towards it a bit,. and ride safe..Del. ...
Quick observation on the fuel tap rebuild Del..When you refitted the front plate that holds the turning part of the tap in place, you forgot to refit the spring steel washer...It keeps the tap part pressed in. You left it on your work bench ;)
+Steve Froud Hi Steve....cant remember now, it was three years ago...it worked just fine once i connected it and still does to my knowledge... i probably noticed it and fitted it later.. cant remember buddy.. !
Hey there, thanks for the great video. I was having problems with my bike cutting out after a while at high speeds. so the recommendation was to rebuild the petcock. so I did, now unfortunately the bike runs worse then ever :-( could I really have done anything that bad to mess up the bike while rebuilding the tap? there was a lot of rust on the tap when I pulled it out. I cleaned it all thoroughly before replacing it. is it possible by taking off the tap I disturbed rust in the tank which has now made its way to the carbs? any help would be appreciate
May I recommend two excellent books published by Haynes (those of the 'manuals' books). 'Motorcycle Basics Techbook' covers the generics, engine types, anatomy, fuel systems etc etc. 'Motorcycle Maintenance Techbook' covers the generics of tools, fasteners, basic how to's etc etc without being bike specific. When you know very little, they are brilliant and you will go back to them again and again. A bit like a hard cover Del in a way :-)
yeh del if i can do the work on my bikes myself with the help from the likes of yourself del that takes the time to make the videos and upload them i will keep on doing as i dont trust bike shops anyway. you just dont know for sure what they are doing with your bike up to now i have been lucky not to use the shops been doing maintenance myself and at the end of the day del i get a great feeling after i get it right cheers as always del hope the new house is going well for you mate
Thank you for your video I have a Piaggio Zip 50 2T from 2015 when I drive and give a full acceleration the speed is cutting down what you thing is tap problem i been cleaning the carburettor and still the same many thks
Hi del I have just rebuilt my bandits fuel tap following your video which was really good. question is, my bandit has suffered from progressively worse performance over the last 12 to 18 months (not riding it much) it tended to be after giving it some stick, you would back off and a few seconds later it would lose power, splutter like it's missing and eventually die completely. also it is a Nightmare to start, taking ages to eventually go, once it's going it only firing on 2,3, and 4 with No.1 header stone cold until I fiddled with the "mixture screw" little one just before the connection for the carb rubbers, then it heated up quick and idled pretty nicely. should say now it's had the carbs cleaned professionally TWICE!! new coils,plugs, new battery twice and has a good spark and all vacuum hoses and functioning correctly each time the carbs were cleaned it ran ok but developed the same problem pretty quickly, I got it going the other day and ran it, it revved freely and I rode about 500yds when it started to have a little splutter, I leaned over and turned the tap to prime and it went off like a bullet! and performed well under load all the way home. like I said I have just rebuilt my tap and noticed the 'smiley face' is scored between the eyes, enough to allow fuel to pass between the two when not turned onto that setting (reserve?) would that cause a problem in your opinion with the vacuum operation as like I said, on prime it seemed ok. any input greatly appreciated. and keep up the great. video. lee
+Lee D HI mate, reading through your message, it sounds like the problem could be related to fuel starvation... specially as you say it seems to work and operate on 'prime'. Just to explain the tap... it's vacuum operated on the first two settings 'ON' and 'RES' and the third setting 'PRI' is manually operated by a small cam pushing the tap open internally. So the fact it works on manual operation means that, possibly, you are not getting enough vacuum to open the tap, so is the vac hose to the tap properly connected, kinked, pinched, or perished?? If that's all healthy, then with your engine running, take the vac hose off the tap end, and stick your thumb over the end, it should suck quite firmly on the skin of your thumb...... if not, replace it, or check for blockages. If you are getting a firm vac, but it's not opening the tap, then, perhaps, the spring is too tight, wrongly fitted, or corroded.... either way, it seems the bike is running fine once it has a healthy fuel supply .... Those vacuum taps can be re-built, but tbh mate, they are a bit crap and if you wanna upgrade for a guaranteed sod-off healthy fuel supply, then buy a Pingel tap replacement kit and throw the factory shit in the bin! They have one or two outlets and come with, or without, reserve.... shop around in the drag race market, someone like Debben Performance in Ringwood will supply them... you can get an adaptor block to fit the tap to your Bandit, take 10mins to fit and will supply so much fuel, you won't believe it ! See how you get on with that mate !
perfect, really needed a decent tutorial, rebuilding my yamaha tzr 125, cheers del just a quick question, what would you say is the best way if any of getting rid of tank rust, this yamaha's tank im building back up i full of it, a m8 said to run some kind of filter on the fuel tap, is this a good idea? cheers
the bike is a bandit gsf 600 its defo petrol I opened the garage as I could smell it, there was a big damp patch on the floor. There was no sign of wet areas above the exhaust or any thing coming from the overflow pipes. If it is a sticky float would you change the engine oil after checking the float. Thanks
hi Moonfleet41 Its me again D: I got a question hoping that you could help me... Lately ive been riding my bandit 600 and i believe it has a problem related to the fuelling... So it only happens when the RPM/speed its constant, usually between 3000/4500RPM. Seems there are (i dont know how to call it) some flat spots (??) when i try to maintain a constant speed, but if i open the throttle it just goes without issues! Reminds me when i have to open the fuel tap, for the reserve. Idles great, and no problems with open throttle its just when constant speed, and OCACIONALLY when i shift 1º gear to start going: PS: Carburators had been cleaned and sync just 2 months ago.
I ended up just removing the vacuum parts, blocking off the vent with a homemade gasket and some permatext, capping the vacuum line. No leaks so far, but haven't filled the tank, so we'll see.
Jimbo Deano 1 second ago +Moonfleet41 Ok Del sounds good. on pot 3 I took 2 readings from it 1st time was at like 105 as it was the lowest but second time I did it was at 65 at this point the bike was running lower on battery but i simply took the higher measurement which was the first one and that surprised me since piston 1 was the one that was saturated and had issues. shall I check it once more again tomorrow just to be safe? and ill do all those things as soon as I get a chance :) And im interested in buying one of those caps too how do I do that?
Great informative video I'm waiting for my fuel tap kit so I can do mine have you a video on cleaning bandit 600 carbs as my air box was full of petrol a lot of these videos don't explain like you do
Hi Del, firstly, your vid's are great! very informative and easy to understand. Secondly, I was wondering if you have done a vid of how to remove, strip down, clean and replace your carbs? Im fairly practically minded and will tackly most things, however would really love to see a video of an ACTUAL BANDIT carb strip down. I have a B6 97 but presumably it would be the same process. Keep the good work up mate, all the best. Phill
Hi Phil....sadly no, i have never had to strip my carbs down to clean them...its not that hard, but before you do it, ask yourself if you really need to, is the bike running that badly?, oftne most people just like to do it because they think its a good thing to do....only get involved if you need to buddy, you can spend hours faffing about with old cranky carbs and end up with them no better.... Hope that helps, let me know how you get on.. cheers Del.
Hello Delboy, thanks for all the great help you provide. I have 3 questions regarding the Bandit petcock, can you swap it for a non- vacuum petcock? And if so from what model? Then what do you do with the vacuum line to the carb and to or from the 2ndary air valve assy. Thanks again Ron
+Ron Howard Hi Ron, you can buy a Petcock from the American company "Pingel" so just google search for "Pingel fuel tap Suzuki Bandit" and im sure you'll find a product, and it will come with a model specific adaptor plate to bolt it staigh on....with the vacuum hose, either take it off all together and silicone a rubber brake bleed valve cap over the end, of cut the hose itself to about 3" long, and silicone a bolt in the end to seal it... all the drag race supply companies sell Pingel taps... easy swap.. hooe that helps buddy, good luck with it. Del.
Great to see such detailed instructions with commentary. Old but gold. Thanks Del.
Hey Del, much respect on the "ease" you demonstrate when performing delicate tasks. Master mechanic! You were "spot on" when you mentioned the dealer response. Had the same problem several years ago on a bike. The dealer recommended that I "upgrade" the entire unit to a pengel unit, which I did. Better unit but, expensive. Never thought to rebuild myself, this is why I love your channel! Love the humor as well! Love the new "Busa" sticker!!!!!!! Too funny!!!!
Hi Del, Yes, I've been pleased to find that I can do a fair amount of basic maintenance on my Harley, thanks to the help of you and other CZcamsrs showing the way. I like riding more than wrenching and I don't aspire to become a qualified mechanic, but it's very interesting to see how bikes and parts function and how service jobs are done! I really appreciate the effort that you and Penny put it, thanks mate!
Fantastic video...thanks for putting this up. Just rebuilt my fuel tap with the kit today and followed this video step by step. Turned out to be quite an easy job in the end and gave me a chance to inspect my air filter and fuel filter too.
Nice one glad to see you both having some fun "on set". My bike has a similar vacuum valve but it's mounted on the carb fuel rail and the petcock on the tank is just a 3 position valve. Good seeing how things are done on newer & different bikes. Fuel gauge, what a luxury on a bike!
Delboy's Garage was the firs I saw with reparing the Bandit, so thanks a lot for your help and your cool work. I'm not so good, 'cause I'm back motorriding for 20 years ago. But you help me a lot.
Best wishes and take care,
Roman
Roman S. Hi Roman, its good to hear from you my friend, and im glad the videos can help you out... welcome back to biking and enjoy the roads buddy... all the best.. Del.
so glad i came across your video.... not often you get someone giving the exact step by step instruction... this has helped me immensely... thank you.. you will be my first stop if i get anymore problems with my bandit 1200.
Most welcome buddy, welcome aboard, and glad you can use the videos.. Del.
Thanks John, settling in nicely now, still got stuff everywhere, and the garage is still full of toot....but we're getting there... you're right on the bike care....keeping your bike tip top brings you closer to it and also helps you know how its doing which gives you time up front to make plans for those never ending expenses like consumables and servicing..not only that, it ads a wider path of enjoyment to owning your bike...ride safe chap.. cheers Del.
Del thanks for putting these videos up it has inspired me to go back to night school to do a motorcycle mantainance course loved the bandit rebuild keep it up
Thanks for the tips . It really is great that you take the time to show everyone how to do these jobs . I will be more confident doing this job when the time comes. Taking the petrol tap handle off first is the same on the gsxr GHJ before taking the tank off. Fumes off my tank was from a perished fuel/ pipe . Thanks both .
Thanks buddy, good luck with it and hope it goes well for you! D&P
Hi mate... to clean out yer tank...chuck in a fist full of ball bearings or lead shot...add a pint of water..seal up all the hols with duct tape (taking the fuel tap out first)..then shake the shit out of it for ten minutes til yer arms fall off ..then open up the tank holes, drain and wash it all out...keep rinsing till its totally clean...then let it dry open in a warm place so all the moisture dries out...then use "Petseal" rubber solution to line the tank afterwards..job done..good luck, Del
Cheers Andy, glad you liked them and happy to have been of help...good luck ..Del.
Just so you know. 7 years on (at a guess from the comments) and this video will still be helping people. I am about to start work on my bandit N600 and this is going to help me no end. Thanks dude. Great video, I will be watching this back a few times. :) Take care.
Most welcome Sir, glad it helped you and great to know it's still playing it's part!
Just done this to my 1200 bandit. You video was an excellent explanation. Simple and to the point! Cheers!!!
Hey! Love your videos! They have helped me out a lot. I'm in California and ride a Honda VTX. Did the stem bearings a couple weeks back - time for the petcock now. Thanks!
still ALOT of gd info on this and really helpfull in 2019 - you sir are doing a really great job with this build help vids - I hope to see more of them, even thou I love the busa build aswell thumbs up!
del just cleaned out my carbs for the first time on my bandit 600 yesterday and i couldne believe the grit in the float bowls took me all day to do the job just took my time with my haynes, was getting a little rough running at low revs thought maybe pilots blocked and some where , used carb cleaner away from any rubber bits and compressed air. ballanced carbs when fitted but cant get out to test run as rain rain rain today joys of biking cheers del
Hi Peter, thanks for that perfect explanation, I couldn't put it better myself ...it's exciting to see such hunger and enthusiasm from the new blood and gladdens my old heart that bikers will survive into the future LOL! Thanks for your input, mate, wise words, well said - Del
Hey Penny and Del, came across this one from the depths of time! Although you now have a bigger garage, better video and audio equipment and a more refined approach, the raw appeal of your videos is here in plain sight. Really great job of instructing on the task. Thanks again! Take care, be well and ride safe!
Thanks so much for your kind words buddy.. i never get time to watch the old videos, shame as it reminds me of simpler times and a more friendly youtube..!
Hey Del , just a quick one, thanks for the vids its given me confidence to have a go myself , serviced me bandit no problems thanks mate keep up the good work . Andy
Hi Byron, I hardly think that would be the case! The whole amazing thing with these videos since we started has been people who didn't think they could do anything discovering that they actually can! ... most of us have un-tapped skills we just don't know we have! Thanks for your every present support, mate, Del
Too bad some bike shops rips you off
Fair play very well done, informative, camera work tidy, just got bandit 600n with carb over feul issues, am going to carry out rebuild of feul tap after watching your video. Great job.
Sonic bathed my carbs today, lots of green scaly crud removed, brass fine brush used to lightly defer heavy deposits, refitted all after assessing jets, diaphragms, damper condition, noticed carb heater plugs to stop icing all disconnected and tops of plugs removed/broken been advised from club that OK to leave deleted, (your thoughts greatly appreciated, it will be my daily driver, but don't really have very harsh Winters, probably won't use if if we do). Are there positional /jet numbers/ emulsion tube and main jet configurations that need adhering to as it looks like these carbs have been apart before, (witness marks on jet slots) probably wise to get a manual also.
Thanks for your channel, was watching your wheel bearing video this evening, very well done again. 👍🏻Looking forward to learning more from you.
Andy Rayner. 👍🏻🏴
Alright delboy! This is class , just got an unused bandit '00, 600 for free off a mate's. Cousin, I've been off bikes for about 15 years so am bursting to go, she's been left in the weather for 10 years so lots to do , and you teach just how I like to learn , I'm going to give it a blast myself , never been to college but I'm doing a degree on you tube. Professor Del, cheers! Mick in cork IRL.
Ayup Mick, good to hear from you fellah and what a fun project that sounds to be! Nothing like doing it yourself and a free bike, what's not to like?! Good luck with it me ol' mate, get stuck in and have a good time... all the best D&P
Hi Matt, thank you for your kind comments, have a look through there's a few bandit vids in the back catalogue that may help you ... with the tank, it fits on to a 'shoe' at the front which has a rubber cover, this gives the tank some isolation from vibration, so yes, there will be a very small amount of play at the front as the bracket moves around in it's rubber mount...good luck with your new bike, always feel free to ask if you need any advice, happy to help - Cheers, mate, Del
Good tip on dry seals there....my tap wasnt dry so it was just corrosion and wear....but laid up bikes have lots of odd problems.. and thats one very good remedy for all o-ring seals, petrol and oil...!
Got a rebuild kit for my zx10 fuel tap.
Need to get mine done now.
Great vid as always mate
+DynamoDelboyZX10 Good luick with it Del, hope it goes well buddy...
Top marks....first class instructional video. Saved me a few quid! £12 seal kit of flea bay & bish bosh bike running like new👍
Took the tank off my Zx6r the other day to get to some wiring. bent the fuel tap in the process, started pissing petrol everywhere, then put a spanner on my battery followed by exciting sparks. luckily no fire... refurbished another 2nd hand tap the other day, looks like I got it right but thanks for the tip with the seal onto the tank!
Gotta do this too. Was just gonna strip & clean. Ordered a refurb kit now, thanks
yet again del another great video on how to do it yourself, bike shops must love you showing all these how to do it videos lol
Just a simple little thank you for an excellent tutorial Del.
Thank you both :-)
Hi mate, I've got a pengel tap in my toolbox, was great for passing more fuel when I was running a 1260 kit on my old EFE, but after 2yrs leaked like a sieve, so I re-kitted it using old inner tube rubber, then chucked it in my toolbox - thanks for watching, mate, Del
another top vid young man.... the scream face was the highlight though lol... seriously its good to see whas involved if i ever need to do the tap on my bandit..
Excellent video. Thanks for making it.
Great video my bandit 6 I broke the tap while messing with the tank so I've ordered new tap 16 pounds on eBay this video will come in handy great help as always
Thanks buddy, glad it can help you out !
Hi Bill, what would also be a luxury is if the said fuel guage was half way accurate LOL! Thanks for watching, mate, take care, Del
Thanks very much for this mate. my bike hasnt been starting, and think its a fuel tap issue, looking forward to taking it apart and having a look! Thanks again, ill let you know if it starts running!
Did you get around to taking it apart? My bike ran perfect on Tuesday but wouldn’t start the next day and once I got it started with the throttle open it would stall on idle. Used a funnel with gas to bypass the petcock and filter and then it seemed to run fine. So gonna try filter first and if that doesn’t help I’ll look at the petcock.
Very helpful. I had a leaky petcock on my '77 GS550 after rebuilding it and this video helped me see that I had reassembled the vacuum side incorrectly. Tomorrow will tell whether I've corrected it or not. Thanks, mate!
Good luck with it Mike, i hope it's all fixed.
@@Moonfleet41 It worked! I took it for a test ride this afternoon and no more leaking! Thanks again!
@@MikeMitchum Excellent news mate, it feels great when you get it back to normal.
Hi Chris, at least you attempted it mate, and didn't just hand it to the dealer...the problem with the Discovery loads is that they are restricted to 7mins on the video uploads, I guess it's a continuity thing, so this would fall way outside that...I tried suggesting doing them in 2-3 parts, but they can't do that either ... they've got about 24 of my vids in stock to edit down and use of which they seem to have loaded only a dozen so far ..thanks for watching, buddy, cheers, Del
This is very helpful with what we’re trying to do. The lock will not open on it. It’s been sitting for a hot minute and the gas is more than likely bad af. (Yes, we’ve tried everything to open it) without destroying the lock, we’re thinking that if we take the gas tank off, leave it upside down for a prolonged period of time, the lock will get lubricated enough to open. I got meager knowledge on the subject. Just got the bike and it needs to be looked at but we know it needs work.
My god, I find youre videos educatial...greetings from a motorbiker in Norway
+kim hafslag Thanks Kim, how good to hear from you ! Glad you enjoy the videos, and thanks for getting in touch - ride safe - D&P!
I liked the rubber monster sound effects with the stretch, also the directions where easy thanks
Hi Joe....ok, it makes sense that you should first check for stuck floats, little tap on each bowl can often cure it, you have a vacuum tap, so check you haven't left it on prime 'PRI', & once you've cured the leak, no need to change the oil as long as the level is correct, if loads of petrol in it, then it will be overfilled.. also check the air box drain plug,make sure it's not gummed up & that no petrol has drained back into the drain box..good luck with that, hope it helps, mate, Del
Bloody hell the crud on that Del. Imagine what the jets get like
Thanks away bonny lad...good to know yer watchin... soon be summer.. Del.
Ha ha, 'Result'...well done buddy, and from that little list of checks and fixes you know yer stuff too......good going buddy, glad it worked for you...
Good info, I'm going to order this kit right now
Thanks for the guide, I have fixed my friends 1996 bandit gsf600. Was not working mode on only on prime. Now its been fixed.
Hi mate, always happy to help others learn, not sure exactly what you mean when you say general mechanical knowledge, mostly that is something you build over years by using common sense mixed with some straight forward technical learning from manuals or videos and just getting involved and practicing ...I'm afraid there's no short circuit to knowledge you have to learn it stick by stick, do lots of small jobs, learning as you go & some day it will build up into a bank of knowledge - cheers, Del
:o) after many many years of doing all my own repairs servicing and rebuilding on my bikes i do know a bit. this one almost beat me..lol.. in all that time the only thing ive done with a petcock is turn it on .. so your vid was a god-send..cheers mate ..oh by the way while i was waiting for the repair kit i made a gasket out of cardboard and fitted it over what was left of the diaphragm it held it in place and got me to work all week hehe ..its surprising what you can do in an emergency!!
best bandit advice i've found, thanks!
Another great video im so glad I own a Bandit :)))
Hi Sal, well perhaps it may just serve to instil a sense of urgency into the young bronze ... lest he have a ticket to write AND a mess to deal with LOL! ... Looking forward to seeing you on Sunday, hun (but don't worry I'll go before I leave home!)...D&P
Hey! I have a Suzuki GSF1200 Bandit. Almost 57k Miles, and I am experiencing this fuel smell, and have observed the fuel leaking from the petcock. I will be rebuilding my fuel petcock this weekend - I appreciate you making this video!
Hye buddy... i have to tell you, im not evne sure if this fix was the route of the prblem.. i stopped the fuel smell for a week..but then it came back... and in the end, i traced it to a tiny tiny micro pin hole in the tank itself... ill explain!
The Bandit tanks site the fuel tap down in a cavity at the bottom left of the tank....this cavity is the veyr lowest point of all....and any water that gets in from rain around the filler cap, or what ever other means, will just sink to the bottom and sit in this cavity for years....and in the end.. it will breach the rubber coating and rust its way through.... this is what happend to my tank... so before you rip your tap apart, have a very close look all around the tap hole at that bottom section it sits in and make sure there are no pin holes of rust spots.... in the end i picked up a new (second hand) tank from eBay for £30, slapped my old tap in and it fixed it..
Hope that helps buddy.. good luck with it... Del.
I appreciate the heads up! I will search for any leaks that are originating from the tank before the rebuild, and will get back to you on the cause!
Hey delboy love your Vids, I don't know what to do with my bandit though, it has been plagued by this fuel leaking problem. After I failed to fix it myself, I took it to a proper bike shop, who are known for their work on bandits. $600, They rebuilt the carbs, rejetted the carbs, and synced them. I took the bike on a trip, worked flawlessly but yesterday only a week after it started leaking fuel into the crankcase And floor. Idk what to do now.
Ok, thanks for the update.. where is the fuel leaking from if its going on the floor..? can you trace where its coming from on the system...
Oh! Forgot to update you. The leak was from the oring that connects the assembly to the tank - the oring had somehow fused to the paint, and the paint had chipped away from the tank causing my leak. I cleaned off the paint from the area where the oring should contact, and with a new oring, my leak was solved.
Thanks for this one Del next job on the gsxr 89 fixer upper .+ good tip on getting hose clips to grab tighter.
Most welcome mate, and what a fabulous ol' bike, I lvoe GSXR's... good luck with it, and enjoy the project!
@@Moonfleet41 it arrived today from M&P yeh code is fck24 . Thanks buddy Yeh the slingshot is a cool bike seems so much smaller to the slabby but I think I will enjoy it. Just having a rewatch before getting to it .
Hi Ted, I left the rain water pipe off because it wasn't on there in the first place, the little there is just drains down behind the air box as it's a rat bike I'm not bothered, but thanks for you amazing observation - you legend! Thanks Del
cheers del ill keep yous all imformed how it goes the weekend.
Doing VX 800 tomorrow, really quality video cheers 👍
Have fun!
I love the mad banter between penny&you :-) Such a loverly couple :-).
Bloody hell, youve got my plyers ha ha, i cant remember where i got mine from but they are really handy little sods :-)
Smashing job :-)
Very well done!!! You should have a sticker made of the Screaming face!!
Hi Del ok I have made some new discoveries with my suzuki bandit so like we spoke about before i filled up it and took it for another spin it still rode poorly at lower revs but as they hit about 5k revs it took off like it used to! However after about 20 mins it started playing up again even at high revs, so I took another look at it anyways I found out that what I believe is a fault in cylinder 1, (the one on far left of the engine block when ur sat in the seat i think) I checked that the HT lead sent a spark to the plug by leaving a little bit of distance which it did between them and then I checked the plug itself again on the side of the engine block and it gave a healthy spark, now heres the thing! when I totally disconnected that spark plug from the HT lead it made absolutely NO DIFFERENCE to the bike running whatsoever, the revs stayed the same and it still sounded awful but just kept on ticking over as it was before I disconnected it,so now I reconnected that one and did the same with spark plug 4 or cylinder 4 so to speak and as I disconnected this one and the bike spluttered and died,so I now know the problem is with cylinder 1 so I went back to cylinder one and checked the spark plug again it seemed like it was covered in fuel and oil, twice I run the bike with it in there and twice I removed it and checked it both times it had oil mixed with fuel as I dabbed it on tissue to be sure, I believe it was so wet that it could not ignite now the final thing I did was that I actually fired the bike up with that cylinder open and held my hand above it within moments it got damp and i thought I could see a little white smoke coming out of it too, but when I tried the same thing with cylinder 4 my hand stayed completely dry I remember giving it a oil top up recently as it was a lil bit under the full mark but im wondering if I have put a bit too much oil in and and it could have increased the pressure somehow, maybe forcing oil past the seals into the combustion chamber? any ideas, will it need new seals and a new gasket maybe? would it be advisable for me to buy a compression kit to test and finally if they have gone is there anything I can just put into the engine to seal it up like a liquid or will I have to do a proper job with more seals and a new head gasket if that's the case.
I also took a photo down in cylinder one and could see some oil around near where the spark plug sits in the lower part of the cylinder.
One more thing when I first tried to start it this morning it went BANG real loud made me jump!!!
Sorry for the massive message but im just trying to give you as much information as I can.
Thanks again!
+Jimbo Deano Hi Jimbo, please don't apologies for the message... information is all useful..... what you are describing, sounds to me, like Pot 1 just isn't working. It's not firing, even though a spark is going in there.... and this can be because the valves are not sealing and allowing compression to occur , so the oily residue is simply un-burnt fuel mixture that isn't being ignited!
The fist thing to check is the compression... and best to do all four Pots... it's not so important how much compression you are getting, just whether it's the same in each cylinder! So fast forwarding, if you find Pot1 has extremely low compression, it could be an open valve due to a closed up shim gap. When was the last time had a valve clearance check?? Check them, and set them correctly... then do the copmression test AGAIN. If this cures it, then that's what it was! If it doesn't, then it could be more serious, such as, perhaps, piston rings...to check for this... stick a couple of teaspoons of oil down the open plug hole of Pot1 and repeat the compression test again... if that cures it, then you have either a broken ring, or a damaged piston.
Check those things, and let me know buddy... it has to be something like that !
Hi mate, well done on saving yourself some dosh - sadly I can't help you with a clutch adjustment video as I don't have a 600 Bandit on which to demonstrate and as you may know, the 1200 is hydraulic so would be no use to you... for simple jobs like that, all the info. you need is in any decent manual ...good luck with it, safe riding, Del
Blackboard paint, what a great idea!
Hi mate, I initially wondered that, but on reflection probably they don't care -there are plenty of customers out there who don't want to get their hands dirty and I only ever cover basic maintenance and bike care, I never encroach into the territory of the technician as I truly believe that that level of know how is not something you can portray in a video and I would never want to lead viewers down a road they can't get out of, so I keep it simple - cheers Del
Hi Joe,provided it is petrol & not condensation,then it sounds like a stuck float..what is your 'K3' - GSXR presumably & is it carbs or injection? If carbs, you could have a stuck float causing the feed to gravity drain into the cylinder through an open inlet valve, but that would more usually run down the side of the cylinders into the sump (so your oil will smell of petrol)..but fluid coming out of exhausts is more usually just condensation water,caused by cold steel vs. hot gases etc. ..Del
Hey Del, excellent video as always, pure and simple. You seem to be on a roll with your almost-introductory videos that you're aiming towards the new riders, such as myself. I like to think I'm learning a lot from yourself and by doing work on my bike, but I can't really keep up if I'm talking to someone who really knows their stuff. For instance, I was wondering if you'd consider dedicating a bit of time towards making a video or videos that cover general mechanical knowledge.
Every thing you did to the bandit is the most common problems Thanks again this is my problem this week. This and the fact the fist owner had the wrong oil plug and the counter sprocket came lose is how I got my bandit for about what the exhaust cost
Jeff Bankston Hi Jeff, never that much goes wrong with a Bandit, it's usually ancilliary stuff and easily fixed ! Good luck with it Del
Hi mate, look up the videos in the back catalogue of Rat Bike Scrim - it is basically Army scrim net spray glued on in two layers then drowned in blackboard paint with a brush - makes it rock hard like Kevlar LOL!
Thank you very much! I might have the exact problem on my bike (Suzuki GSX600F 1997).
Hopefully I will find a Repair Kit online.
Mines started recently750. I couldnt really see there which tap feed was for fuel pipe and which was overflow andbwhich part of rhe tp they atrached to
Thank you for this video..... I'm happy to tackle it now ...
Very helpful video. Thank you.
Nice demo. I think the brown grunge is rust, accumulated near the bottom of the tank because water impurities will layer out at the bottom and tend to cause rust there. There is a lot of mysticism surrounding the topic of fuel stabilizer and alcohol. It makes sense that the alcohol present in fuel stabilizer allows more water to dissolve in the upper fuel layer, reducing the tendency for water to layer out and cause localized rust at the bottom. Alcohol gets blamed for a lot of problems but reality is more complex.
Hi mate, there's a pair of those in every Suzuki tool kit and I've got half a dozen pairs having robbed them from bikes over the years, like you say, they are expandable and expendable! ... which is way better than Snap-On!
Hi Del thanks again for your advice last month I have just sent the money via Paypal and have now fixed the problem for good on my bandit, it WAS the HT lead and coil but it was only intermittent sparking and every time i tested it it worked however the other day cylinder 1 died again and this time died for good! I retested the lead and spark plug and there was no spark I must have been truly unlucky to see it working when testing it last month! so anyways I bought a new coil which was 18 quid on ebay rigged it up and now it rides like a dream the other coil looks like its seen better days too so im gonna change that one at the end of this month I had to buy a coil with the ht leads attached as they do not come separately which you probably already know I just thought i should tell you as you said its probs that at the very beginning it was sooooooooooo simple i jus wished when i first tested it that the plug would not have sparked as it would have saved me so much time but never mind done now :) thanks again! Jimmy
+Jimbo Deano Jimbo, that's such good news mate, im glad you got it sussed, and yeah, isn't it a bugger when something wont expose itself when you test it.. its the sort of thing that gives some garages a bad name...custom brings in a fault.. no fault found, hand it back.. fault returns..aaagghh lol If you can afford it buddy, and you ever want to upgrade then, you can buy Dyna coils, and Taylor leads, (they come separate and you plug them in, unlike the factory moulded ones)....and they have so much beef that you'll never have ignition woes again... pricey, but a permanent solution and still cheaper than new ones from the dealer... Ride safe mate, glad we could help towards it a bit,. and ride safe..Del. ...
Quick observation on the fuel tap rebuild Del..When you refitted the front plate that holds the turning part of the tap in place, you forgot to refit the spring steel washer...It keeps the tap part pressed in. You left it on your work bench ;)
+Steve Froud Hi Steve....cant remember now, it was three years ago...it worked just fine once i connected it and still does to my knowledge... i probably noticed it and fitted it later.. cant remember buddy.. !
ok Del thanks for that I'll jump on it Friday and let you know how I get on :-D
Hey there, thanks for the great video. I was having problems with my bike cutting out after a while at high speeds. so the recommendation was to rebuild the petcock. so I did, now unfortunately the bike runs worse then ever :-( could I really have done anything that bad to mess up the bike while rebuilding the tap? there was a lot of rust on the tap when I pulled it out. I cleaned it all thoroughly before replacing it. is it possible by taking off the tap I disturbed rust in the tank which has now made its way to the carbs? any help would be appreciate
Another supurb tutorial Del. LOL at the Busa's New addition.
Well done, John, sounds like a good day's work, good on you!
Good video help. At the end only missed the wavy washer under the plate with the inscriptions Fuel, Res, Pri, On. thanks for the help
Thanks again for a great video. Mine is all fixed up now. If you're ever in the states and near WV look me up and I'll buy you a pint.
Rick Hill Thanks Rick.. thats very kind mate, im glad the video worked for you.. take care. Del.
May I recommend two excellent books published by Haynes (those of the 'manuals' books).
'Motorcycle Basics Techbook' covers the generics, engine types, anatomy, fuel systems etc etc.
'Motorcycle Maintenance Techbook' covers the generics of tools, fasteners, basic how to's etc etc without being bike specific.
When you know very little, they are brilliant and you will go back to them again and again. A bit like a hard cover Del in a way :-)
yeh del if i can do the work on my bikes myself with the help from the likes of yourself del that takes the time to make the videos and upload them i will keep on doing as i dont trust bike shops anyway. you just dont know for sure what they are doing with your bike up to now i have been lucky not to use the shops been doing maintenance myself and at the end of the day del i get a great feeling after i get it right cheers as always del hope the new house is going well for you mate
Very good thanx. I have a vx 800 with the same tap. But where dose the vac hose connect to?
Thank you for your video I have a Piaggio Zip 50 2T from 2015 when I drive and give a full acceleration the speed is cutting down what you thing is tap problem i been cleaning the carburettor and still the same many thks
Hi del I have just rebuilt my bandits fuel tap following your video which was really good.
question is, my bandit has suffered from progressively worse performance over the last 12 to 18 months (not riding it much) it tended to be after giving it some stick, you would back off and a few seconds later it would lose power, splutter like it's missing and eventually die completely.
also it is a Nightmare to start, taking ages to eventually go, once it's going it only firing on 2,3, and 4 with No.1 header stone cold until I fiddled with the "mixture screw" little one just before the connection for the carb rubbers, then it heated up quick and idled pretty nicely.
should say now it's had the carbs cleaned professionally TWICE!! new coils,plugs, new battery twice and has a good spark and all vacuum hoses and functioning correctly
each time the carbs were cleaned it ran ok but developed the same problem pretty quickly, I got it going the other day and ran it, it revved freely and I rode about 500yds when it started to have a little splutter, I leaned over and turned the tap to prime and it went off like a bullet!
and performed well under load all the way home.
like I said I have just rebuilt my tap and noticed the 'smiley face' is scored between the eyes, enough to allow fuel to pass between the two when not turned onto that setting (reserve?) would that cause a problem in your opinion with the vacuum operation as like I said, on prime it seemed ok.
any input greatly appreciated. and keep up the great. video.
lee
+Lee D HI mate, reading through your message, it sounds like the problem could be related to fuel starvation... specially as you say it seems to work and operate on 'prime'.
Just to explain the tap... it's vacuum operated on the first two settings 'ON' and 'RES' and the third setting 'PRI' is manually operated by a small cam pushing the tap open internally. So the fact it works on manual operation means that, possibly, you are not getting enough vacuum to open the tap, so is the vac hose to the tap properly connected, kinked, pinched, or perished?? If that's all healthy, then with your engine running, take the vac hose off the tap end, and stick your thumb over the end, it should suck quite firmly on the skin of your thumb...... if not, replace it, or check for blockages. If you are getting a firm vac, but it's not opening the tap, then, perhaps, the spring is too tight, wrongly fitted, or corroded.... either way, it seems the bike is running fine once it has a healthy fuel supply .... Those vacuum taps can be re-built, but tbh mate, they are a bit crap and if you wanna upgrade for a guaranteed sod-off healthy fuel supply, then buy a Pingel tap replacement kit and throw the factory shit in the bin! They have one or two outlets and come with, or without, reserve.... shop around in the drag race market, someone like Debben Performance in Ringwood will supply them... you can get an adaptor block to fit the tap to your Bandit, take 10mins to fit and will supply so much fuel, you won't believe it ! See how you get on with that mate !
Great videos,
l would like to know, how the kit held up over time? & any other thoughts in retrospect.
Thank you for all your help. I do have a question. I've replaced the entire tap and it is still flooding my carbs any ideas?
perfect, really needed a decent tutorial, rebuilding my yamaha tzr 125, cheers del
just a quick question, what would you say is the best way if any of getting rid of tank rust, this yamaha's tank im building back up i full of it, a m8 said to run some kind of filter on the fuel tap, is this a good idea? cheers
thanks! does this part fit on the bandit 400 ??
the bike is a bandit gsf 600
its defo petrol I opened the garage as I could smell it, there was a big damp patch on the floor.
There was no sign of wet areas above the exhaust or any thing coming from the overflow pipes.
If it is a sticky float would you change the engine oil after checking the float.
Thanks
hi Moonfleet41
Its me again D:
I got a question hoping that you could help me...
Lately ive been riding my bandit 600 and i believe it has a problem related to the fuelling...
So it only happens when the RPM/speed its constant, usually between 3000/4500RPM. Seems there are (i dont know how to call it) some flat spots (??) when i try to maintain a constant speed, but if i open the throttle it just goes without issues! Reminds me when i have to open the fuel tap, for the reserve.
Idles great, and no problems with open throttle its just when constant speed, and OCACIONALLY when i shift 1º gear to start going:
PS: Carburators had been cleaned and sync just 2 months ago.
Thanks alot for this! Btw loved the birds at the background, tought it was here haha. Cant wait for spring to come :P
I ended up just removing the vacuum parts, blocking off the vent with a homemade gasket and some permatext, capping the vacuum line. No leaks so far, but haven't filled the tank, so we'll see.
I didnt do anything with the overflow tube is there isnt one....!
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+Moonfleet41 Ok Del sounds good. on pot 3 I took 2 readings from it 1st time was at like 105 as it was the lowest but second time I did it was at 65 at this point the bike was running lower on battery but i simply took the higher measurement which was the first one and that surprised me since piston 1 was the one that was saturated and had issues. shall I check it once more again tomorrow just to be safe?
and ill do all those things as soon as I get a chance :)
And im interested in buying one of those caps too how do I do that?
Great informative video I'm waiting for my fuel tap kit so I can do mine have you a video on cleaning bandit 600 carbs as my air box was full of petrol a lot of these videos don't explain like you do
Hi Del, firstly, your vid's are great! very informative and easy to understand. Secondly, I was wondering if you have done a vid of how to remove, strip down, clean and replace your carbs? Im fairly practically minded and will tackly most things, however would really love to see a video of an ACTUAL BANDIT carb strip down. I have a B6 97 but presumably it would be the same process. Keep the good work up mate, all the best. Phill
Hi Phil....sadly no, i have never had to strip my carbs down to clean them...its not that hard, but before you do it, ask yourself if you really need to, is the bike running that badly?, oftne most people just like to do it because they think its a good thing to do....only get involved if you need to buddy, you can spend hours faffing about with old cranky carbs and end up with them no better.... Hope that helps, let me know how you get on.. cheers Del.
Hello Delboy, thanks for all the great help you provide. I have 3 questions regarding the Bandit petcock, can you swap it for a non- vacuum petcock? And if so from what model? Then what do you do with the vacuum line to the carb and to or from the 2ndary air valve assy. Thanks again Ron
+Ron Howard Hi Ron, you can buy a Petcock from the American company "Pingel" so just google search for "Pingel fuel tap Suzuki Bandit" and im sure you'll find a product, and it will come with a model specific adaptor plate to bolt it staigh on....with the vacuum hose, either take it off all together and silicone a rubber brake bleed valve cap over the end, of cut the hose itself to about 3" long, and silicone a bolt in the end to seal it... all the drag race supply companies sell Pingel taps... easy swap.. hooe that helps buddy, good luck with it. Del.
yes it is I'll send it to you at the months end thanks again!