Lithgow Arms LA102 v Tikka T3 Lite
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- čas přidán 26. 06. 2017
- For my first ever review I wanted to compare these two quality rifles: the Lithgow Arms LA102 and the Tikka T3 Lite both in .223.
I know a lot of people had the same question I did when it came time to buying one or the other, "Lithgow or Tikka?" So I wanted to try and help anyone else with that same question come to a decision.
I know a lot of people also wonder why these two rifles in particular are compared to each other so often (mainly us Aussies) and I believe when you break each aspect of the rifles down they are very similar in many ways.
You have to remember too. Tikka is Sako and becoming apart of the Beretta family gives them endless sources to perfect their rifles. Lithgow on the other hand are only just now breaking back into the civilian firearms market, their specialty is the F90 "Bullpup" so there is bound to be teething issues while they build up their bolt action rifles.
This review is a bit lengthy but I wanted to make sure I covered every little detail between these two rifles so you could get a clear picture of their similarities and their differences.
Hope you all enjoy this review and remember to hit that thumbs up and subscribe to my channel!
Thanks for watching Good Cam Hunting
There's one more important difference, the lithgow has a big ol Australian made on the side of the receiver 👍👍👍
TheOzTurkish well spotted! I did leave that important detail out 😅
yep, thats pretty much irrelevant, Tikka is still a better rifle based on results.
Comparing apples to oranges!
Fkn oath🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
Tikka Is a ⁸83
...I bought a Lithgow LA02 laminate in .223, fitted a Vortex Diamondback 6-24x50 FFP and shot it @300 and 500 yards with Geco 63grn FMJ and it was consistently hitting V-Bulls on McQueens targets with a few sighting shots....very impressed.
One of the best reviews I’ve seen very fair and unbiased. Good point about the Lithgow preferring the heavier bullet due to twist rate. I’ve just put money down for a Lithgow in 308 as I didn’t want the long wait for one in 6.5. Maybe you could do a comparison when it becomes available. Also the bloke at the gun shop Cleaver arms here in Brisbane said that in his opinion the Lithgow was as good as a Sako at about half the price.
Excellent review, good honest advice.
Very nice honest review with amusing intro. I do own the Tikka 223 and did consider the la102 but went with the tikka for you guessed it - the reduced weight. look forward to more of your vids.
Big Kahuna cheers mate, got more in the works! Be sure to keep an eye out!
Excellent review. Thanks.
Loved the review, very fair and no bs. And shows that between the two, it will come down to personal preference, and as a tikka owner, I will admit, there are some things I wish tikka did that the Lithgow does, but both, with the right ammo for the rifle will give excellent results. I'd still go tikka, simply because where I am, there are many chassis options available for the action, and Lithgow don't appear to have that added bonus.... just yet, but from what I've seen, it won't be long before companies start providing that as an option, if they haven't already
I have the 102 in .308 i love that Rifle it has never let me down but in saying that i have only had 7 months but have put 7-800 rounds through it.
Great review, and guns.
This was very well done. Very professional.
petej222 thanks mate!
Thanks for sharing your video. Good job on your presentation and comparison of the Lithgow LA102 and the Tikka T3 Lite. In a 223, a light rifle is fine, but when one steps up to a larger caliber - say above 308 the recoil is noticeable. At one time I owned a T3 Varmint in 223 with a heavy barrel. It was a great gun but it has since moved on to a new home. I noticed that Lithgow is manufacturing a LH 22LR and it would be nice if they expanded their offerings of LH rifles in larger calibers. I've handled a RH Lithgow in 308 and really liked how it shoulder, and how it felt.
Thanks for the shout out mate, that intro is a crack up. Great review too, it's going to be hard to pick the Lithgow, especially when I have just seen gunworld advertising the T3 for $808. Keep the videos coming!
Deane Maslen No troubles mate! Glad I could do this review! There will be plenty more to come! Hope you've been able to come to a decision on which you'd like to get first
Good Cam Hunting I
Very helpful as have shot a 101 and was tossing up between either of these in 243. Going with the Lithgow thanks to you. The heavier barrel is always worth it for the tiny extra amount of sweat. Love the mauser style safety too which I never realised the lithgow had. Cheers.
Great review!!
Great review mate. Comprehensive. 👍
Benny Fitz cheers! Thanks mate 👍
Nice video. Thanks for the effort.
I subscribed just because of that intro! Best yet! "My Guns go Boom!" haha!
Cheers mate! Hoping to get some more content up soon!
Good review well done! I've never even looked at a Lithgow, but I will now!
MRrandory thanks mate! Be sure to check out the different configurations they come in too! You can currently choose for a Titanium or Black cerakote finish on the barrel and receiver in either a polymer, laminate or walnut stock. Currently available Calibres in the LA102 are .223 .243 and .308 or if you're interested there is also the LA101 available in .22LR .22WMR and .17HMR. Hopes this helps mate! Cheers, Cam 👍
Good Cam Hunting will do mate! I just put a deposit on a tikka hunter fluted stainless in 243, but I wanted a 22 magnum in the near future. Had my sights set on a CZ but that might change.
That was a good well presented video. Subscribed.
Maaaaaate, well done, well explained. Couldn't have put it better. Every individual rifle, regardless of "breed" like different "food". As a left-hander, for field shooting, I can't go passed the Tikka (I have the 22-250 lite), but for the range, for me I'd love a Lithgow. I'm a big bloke and the LA102 feels fantastic, and a pleasure to shoot, comes to position beautifully. Yes, as soon as I can afford it, I'll be buying a LA102 in 223.
I was brought up using a Brno Mod 1, what a beautiful little rifle, but sadly it was stolen. I replaced it with the LA101 lefty and holy smoke, what a little beauty. Very, very accurate. Lithgow do a fantastic job with their creations and I hope your viewers support them, they are truly worth it. I toured their factory and shot on their range back in the 70s, what a hoot that was. (I'm over 60 and been shooting 50 years).
Thanks for your honesty, and you just got another follower.
Pilot McBride thanks for such great feedback! I would love to be able to get to the Lithgow Arms factory myself one day! Maybe for a vlog and get a tour around the factory, that would be amazing! Cheers mate!
great revue
This was an excellent review. If you can keep delivering quality videos like this then I'm sure your channel will blow up.
Tikka vs Howa is a question I hear all the, comparing those rifles would make another good video.
Combat Wombat cheers mate! If I can get my hands on a Howa and Tikka in the same calibre I'll be sure to compare the two! Just for you 😉
Good Work.
Nice work mate. The American eagle shot terrible through my Lithgow 223. Funny how the same brand rifle is different. Hornady spear points did awesome through my Lithgow. Grate review mate. Keep them coming 🤘🏻
Daniel Banks cheers and don't you worry, there will be plenty more to come!
Two very well built and reliable rifles. Ive had experience with both in 308 and personally I chose the tikka still, even though I'm Aussie. I think the tikka t3 ctr is more like the Lithgow as it also comes with the rail and threaded muzzle. Well done bud good video. Cheers 👍
TWISTED NRG cheers mate! Appreciate the positive feedback!
Great review, well done, I got the Tikka with the 1 in 8 twist rate, but I’m going to get the Lithgow too just to have both
I got a tikka t3x 223 synthetic stock sporter 8" shoots so frigen well , i do want the 308 lithgow and best of all all its ozzy and i reckon its on par with sako and half the price
... another bullet the Lithgow loves is the Sierra 65grn Game Changer (over 22.8grn of N133, seated to 2.250") its 5 shot 1/2" @100 yards, from 35C down to freezing..
I tried the Lithgow in .223. At 200 metres my 5 shot groups were between .3MOA and .7 MOA using ADI 55gr varminters (hornady projectiles). It almost shot as well as my Tikka 22-250 from the 1980s…..
Great review! I'd be nice if they started importing those Lithgows to Canada. Looks like a great rifle! I'd definitely check one out. But them Tikkas are just great rifles. I've owned a couple, and my latest is in 270wsm. First 3 rounds out of it with the cheapest ammo I could find, Federal Fusion. Was a cloverleaf at 100 yards. Blown away. Same thing with my other ones. They just shoot so damn great. Actually my Tikka out shoots my brothers Sako. But, in all honesty, my brother couldn't hit a cow at 40 paces.lol. So who knows. Only thing I didn't like with the original T3s is that hockey puck for a butt rest. But easily changed out. After 20 rounds with the 270wsm, my shoulder was nice and sore. But got the limbsaver on it now, and it's a dream to shoot. Plus having to upgrade the recoil lug. But glad the rectified all that in the T3x. Great review! You got a Canuck subscriber now! Hard to find good honest, detailed reviews nowadays. To many ppl pushing products. Hopefully us Canadians can get a hold of them Lithgows some time. They look like great rifles, and well built. Oh, and as for Remington ammo. I don't even try that crap in any of my rifles. Never got them to group in any rifle I've owned. Same with most ppl I know. Remington has gone to crap since they where bought out by that Freedom arms group. It's hit and miss with there rifles too. GC has hit the shitter down there from what I've heard. Have a good one.
Kman31ca thanks mate! Can honestly say I've got a grin from ear to ear reading this 😁 there are a few things I'm going to restructure with my next review but I'm all about giving my honest opinion, not here to sell something I don't like. They really are a great rifle! I know people have had some issues as they came off the production line but Lithgow Arms have been great with their customer service from what I've heard and have used initial feedback to improve their rifles. I feel for your bro haha 😂 I'd be lying if I said I haven't missed my mark at less than 40 paces but we all have our days, just gotta keep at it and as they say practice makes perfect! Glad to see I'm hitting an international audience too! Thanks for your comment mate! Greatly appreciated! 👍
Kman-you can get Lithgow in Canada now-just ordered a rimfire in one 17 HMR.Own a bunch of Tikka's as well-they have always out shot Sako's.I am excited to get the Lithgow.Great review!!
I'm 63 in Arkansas and you practice make perfect, I shoot a lot, trying to find a compact Tikka 223 compact with a 1-9 I own a sako black bear 06 and it amazing
Love my LA102 chambered in 308 I added a Leupold CDS scope and a Apollo Max muzzle brake and it’s a dream to shoot
Good, honest review mate. I have noticed when shooting my own CZ 527 with 1:12 twist that it prefers 55 grainers over anything else I put through it. - IE consistent 3-shot clover leaf hits at SSAA Silverdale 200 yd range with OSA 55 grain Blitzkings. Keep up the good work! ;)
Xnocturnus cheers mate and thanks for feed back and your input on the 55 grainers! 🍻
Great review.... Tikka all the way.
... update, the Federal GMM 69grn are 0.5" 3 shot groups @100 yards, regardless of barrel temperature, so I'm going to try a few more 69+ ammo types in it..
Love it
Hey man, nice video. Loved the intro. 😂 I have a question for you as I'm pretty much sold on the LA102 in .223 (PTA even arrived today). If you've tried it, how does it go as far as single loading rounds by hand? I only shoot at an SSAA range and they only allow single round hand loading, no mags.
Cheers and keep up the vids!
Mogg Wai hey mate! Cheers and great question! You'll be happy to know I've just gotten back now from a shoot and I tried loading single rounds through the receiver just for you. To answer your question... loading single rounds work fine! Tried multiple times and had no issues what so ever!
I've taken photos of my results from this afternoon too which I'll be posting on Instagram and Facebook over the weekend if you want to check them out their 👍
Ha!! Thank you so much mate! LA102 it is. Subbed. 👊🏽
Guys i love my Lithgow 102 in 308W
Best gun i own
Great review thanks, just what I was looking for.
The Tikka looks great but it would be nice to own an Australian made rifle.
Shame about the Sellior & Bellot ammunition. I've got an old BSA .308 that prefers it over most factory ammunition.
I've had bad results with several types of Remington ammo with my BSA, my Browning X-Bolt and my Marlin. Clean it up Remington...
Thanks mate! Haven't had time for reviews lately unfortunately but looking to turn that around!
Since then I've found that the OSA 55gr Blitzkings and the 69gr Matchking rounds perform the best in my LA102 .223. Would love to get my hands on one chamber in 6.5 CM in the future!
Ive owned la 101 & 102 .243, T1x, T3X varmint .308 and CTR 6.5
I loved my Lithgows but the Tikkas in my opinion are better.
Also I disagree with you on actions. Tikka wins that race brother.
Both Lithgows were brand new as well as my tikkas but they were not smoother than the tikkas.
Also like to add, there’s not much as in aftermarket stuff you can do with the Lithgows. Where tikkas there’s tonnes. Tikka trigger wins too 😊
I’m not Lithgow bashing by any means, they are friggen awesome rifles and wish I could have kept them.. but had a few issues with both that had to go back to the factory, where my tikkas have and still run perfectly to this day.
Maybe I missed it, but over what distance did you do the shoot? Like the way that you have done close-up video of the bolts etc. Haven't seen many other vloggers do that. Thumbs up for that!
Cheers mate 🍻
Groups were shot at 100 meters 👍 I thought I made mention of it in the subs but I probably did forget to put that bit of info in.
55 grain is the lowest generally a 1in9 can stabilise correctly but suits the 1in12 perfectly
Raflancer cheers mate, I've found similar information too, I've also seen guys running 69gr ammo through their LA102 223 and getting 0.3" groupings at 100 yards, would love to get my hands on some to try for myself! Cheers for the input mate! Much appreciated!
Are the magazines interchangeable, the lithgow mag looks very much like a tikka mag.
Darren Wynne yes they are. It is something I checked but didn't have time to cover in this review. I did find the Tikka mag didn't clip into the Lithgow nicely and the release button would stiffen up when removing it. However the Lithgow mag fitted the Tikka fine.
I have a standard T3 in 7mm08 but definitely feels a bit heavier. I think I got a weight of 3.9kg with a Burris Full field IV 2.5-10x42 scope, a Backlanz Bipod and a Manitas Alpine Lite Suppressor. It's not too bad but definitely not the lightest for a bush rifle. Other thing too is the half cocks on the Tikkas are terrible but can be fixed by a Gunsmith. I've heard tales of people loosing bullets in the bush because of it.
Other then that, I love mine, it shoots coin size groups and just a pleasure to shoot with 140gr projectiles.
Hey mate, are you using a 3-9 inch bipod on your rifles?
Hey Joshua, sorry for my late reply. Yes, in this video I was and still am running to this day a Hy-Skor 3-9 inch bipod. I find 75% of the time I'll use it at its lowest height and the other 25% I'll extend the legs to suit the terrain. Hope this helps 🍻
...69grn is the way forward with the 1:9 Lithgow .223. Shot the Sako 69grn SMK Raceheads out to 1000 yards...without any cantilever! Took all the elevation, plus 24 MoA on the reticule but got all my 20+ shots in the black! They don't shoot as well as the Federal GMM but were still available and much cheaper...
Iv googled and failed but do you know the weight difference between Lithgow synthetic and walnut stocks ?
Cheers
All good mate! The LA102 owners manual states the Polymer (synthetic) stock is 3.5kg and the Timber (Walnut) stock is 3.7kg. Not a lot of difference between the 2 really.
Good Cam Hunting thanks mate
Good review but sound echo o o o was distracting. Yes i have a lithgow in .22 which i use mostly for bench rest.
My Tikka T3x Lite in .243 loves the heavy ammo, 100 grain blue box Federal soft points shot way better than the 100 grain Remmington soft points though... The Remingtons were hitting everything but the thing I was aiming at.
The same thing was consistent with my Dad's Lithgow in .223, Federals shot pretty well, but Remmingtons were terrible. He recently started using the Australian Outback Ammo, the 55 grain, and they are deadly accurate
Hey Alex...how are those outbacks going in your dad’s Lithgow? Still the ‘go to’?
Why not buy both?
On a side note, I think you can get the new T3x in 223. In a 12 twist as well as a 9 twist. I was recently looking at one and it said it came in both. But that was a retailer. Not Tikka its self. So don't quote me on that.
You're almost right mate. Tikka T3x in .223 comes in 1:12 and 1:8. You just decide what you want when ordering. I went for the 1:8" twist so i could use heavier rounds. Its been a fantastic rifle.
I have just bought the Tikka T3X with 1:12 for 50-55gn , Im a fox shooter so chose this twist for fast flat shooting out to 250-300m. What are you using the heavier grns for? are you hunting roo's/goats, or are you doing long range target shooting? Hoping I havnt made an error and should have gone for the 1/8 twist, cheers
@@rogbec01I've seen several reports of the 1-8 twists doing poor groupings with 50-55grain and only getting the great results with 69gr upwards, for varminter, that's bad news and you've got the right one I'd say.
No mention of the magazine's? Aren't they identical?
Apparently so. At the time I did try the Tikka mag in the Lithgow and visaversa but never actually tested them in the field to see if one fed the other or not. But otherwise both seem to "fit" in each rifle 👍
I always see complaints about the weight of the 102... and, every video I can find seems to show most fellas shooting from a prone position... Anyone ever shoot these rifles standing up?!?
If so... Your thoughts?
Thanks!
GreenMachine1975 Good question mate. Personally I know I'm not the best free hand shooter so I will always try to find a good spot to either lay prone, rested on a tree or post and if none present themselves or I'm placed in a circumstance where I have to make a quick shot I will take a knee. I practice dry firing with my rifle while free standing and I believe I can keep my reticle on target so to answer your question the rifle isn't "that heavy" that it can't be done but when I'm out hunting I will always go for the most stable position I can be in to make my shot.
Hopes this helps mate! 🍻 cheers!
Also to extend on this, a lot of the videos you see they'll be shooting for groups or some long range target/gong shooting so you're always gonna want to be as stable as possible. Unless they're trying to see how accurate they can be shooting free hand you'll find most guys will be shooting in prone or at a bench.
Just a shame you didn't run some heavier rounds it would demonstrate the versatility of these 2 rifles when heavy or light rounds are required. Why didn't you try the Ozzie ammo I believe it is a top shelf performer?
I hear ya mate! Due to location and demand I wasn't able to get my hands on any heavier rounds at the time of this review. I have since used 69gr Match King OSA rounds and they perform exceptionally well in the LA102!
what's the price difference between the 2? Try shooting 35-40gr in the 1-12 twist, group should shrink, a friend I shoot with has a very nice Sako with a 1-12 twist and with 55gr Sierra Match Kings, shot in the 1 1/8- 1 1/4" groups. We loaded 40 varmint bullets and groups dropped to literally 1 hole@100 yrds. Nice video- keep up the good work
DrMike040298 cheers mate! Thanks for that bit of info! Not sure where you are but here (Australia) for the Tikka T3 Lite you're looking at AU$1,150 average and for the Lithgow Arms LA102 in a polymer stock average prices is AU$1,300. I had another guy from the US comment previously saying you'll pay half the price of a LA102 for a Tikka over there. Thanks again mate! Cheers 👍
Good Cam Hunting Thanks for the reply, now it makes sense why you're comparing these two- here in the US the Tikka goes for $500-600, it's amazing the cost difference!!! If you get the chance try a varmit load in the 35-40 gr range for a 1-12 twist, you may be pleasently surprised.
DrMike040298 I will definitely try to get my hands on some! 👍
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👍. How do u like the la102 now? Does it still shoot well?
It's my favourite rifle mate! I've got a Tikka T3x in .308 but I prefer my LA102. I've got so much confidence in it that when I put my cross hair on my target, be it a fox or a piece of paper, I know I'm gonna hit my mark. Few things I would like to invest in for it are a set of 30mm rings so I can switch out the Nikko Stirling scope for my Burris Veracity, and I would like to drop it (or another LA102) in to a chassis for the extra rounds I'd get from an AICS mag, then there's all the other modular components but that's just personal preference.
But to answer your question, it still shoots well and I love it 👍 I will probably look to get another maybe in 6.5cm in the future.
@@GoodCamHunting. Sweet thanks for the quick reply.
Do the lucky 13 mags work well for the extra capacity? Or are they a bit pricey compared to the aics mags?
@@holden3083 I have never personally used a lucky 13 mag to be able to give any honest feedback on them. I heard negative reviews of the gen 1 models regarding something to do with the spring they were using which caused feed issues but has probably been resolved in the current model of mag.
From the bit of research I've done the cheapest lucky 13 10rnd mag I could find was AU$139.00 compared to say a MDT 10rnd polymer AICS mag being roughly AU$45.00 (and I put emphasis on the roughly) or even their steel mags at roughly AU$85.00.
BUT you also have to consider the costs involved to make the 2 comparable of cause; you've got to have a stock/chassis that will take the AICS pattern mags. So if you're happy with the LA102 in its original timber/laminate/synthetic stock and all you want is the extra rounds then you probably couldn't go wrong with the lucky 13 mag 👍
@@GoodCamHunting. Cheers thanks bloke. Happy hunting.
@@holden3083 you're welcome mate 🍻
The long and high pic rail on the Lithgow would really piss me off. I like my scopes LOW.
I hear ya mate. I'm gonna be swapping out the ol Nikko&Stirling for something else in the future and when i do I'm going to be getting it as close to the barrel as i can get it.
Great comparison review. Audio could be better in some of the video otherwise well done.
Cheers mate! I agree, an external mic would have been good, something i should invest in. Appreciate the feedback mate!
Tikka is perfect rifle !
I have had a Tikka stainless laminate .223 1/12"for a few years and it's never missed a beat. Relatively light and looks great and with no load development (one grain under ADI max is where I started) it will shoot sub MOA 5 shots groups with a couple of different pills. My concerns with the Crossover is that there is no real stainless option. Yes I know it's Cerakoted but coatings scratch and wear. Scratch stainless and there's more of the same underneath. The Lithgow's pic rail gets in the way of proper low scope mounting at the front where the objective bell is. The Lithgow recall is a major concern.
a 1in 12 twist rate barrel on your Tikka - that's the varmint barrel and won't do so well with heavier, predator type loads (fox, coyote) - you should have stated that the 1 in 8 twist rate barrel is the better option.....
Nice intro haha.
how much do you pay for 223 ammo
Caleb Govan average about $1 a shot mate (Australian of corse). Price does vary depending on your local shop and the quantity your buying them in but for a 50pk of OSA 69gr rounds I payed $50. Hope this helps mate! 👍
Cheers mate
Good Cam Hunting holy crap that's 308 money
Dalton v where are you from mate? How much do you pay for .223 rounds?
Hey mate did 223 Lithgow get recalled
Peter Johnston sure did mate. Haven’t heard anything from Lithgow Arms about it since it was cleared for to be rebarreled. Will look at doing a video on it when I get it back.
Yeah righto how longs it been away
Peter Johnston early August, so going on 3 months now.
Good Cam Hunting yeah really so you haven’t heard anything... mines been sitting at the gun shop for a month waiting to be picked up it’s driving me crazy
Peter Johnston I would be chasing your local up about that mate. I could be mistaken but I was lead to believe the gun shops had to organise freight to have the rifles sent back and Lithgow Arms would reimburse them for the costs.
Tikka all the way!
Pffft match grade ammo, you have too reload . That’s the only way you can get a tailor made load for each rifle.
😂 couldn't agree more mate! Maybe as a novice I would have bought in to it but there's certainly nothing match grade about it!
lithgow is more like the sako then the tikka
So they both shoot lights out, but the Lithgow is twice as much money for the same cheap plastic trigger guard and magazine. Got it.
Daniel Stoner not sure where you're located mate but from what I've found online (Australian stores) the average for price for a Tikka T3x Lite Stainless is AU$1150 and the average for a Lithgow Arms LA102 Synthetic is about AU$1300, but due to import/export I understand the price would be different in different countries. Cheers 👍
Oh, ok - thank you. Yeah, I'm USA. Tikkas are wonderfully inexpensive here, but unfortunately, the Lithgows are not.
All good mate! It's good to know how these and other guns compare on an international level. Thanks for the input 👍
My only complaint is that the Lithgow is an absolute brick compared to the Tikka
Pickle Rick agreed. After owning mine for 18 months now you do get use to it after a while, but it would be good to see Lithgow produce a “lite” model in their crossover line of rifles.
The Tikka should have a Finnish accent 🇫🇮
Thanks mate. Accents certainly are not my forte and I couldn't find a good source for a Finnish accent to even attempt one. I'll give it a red hot go next time 👍🏻
Good Cam Hunting only joking mate, it was a great review.
@@user-wu7ug4ly3v Cheers mate and don't worry I figured you'd be joking 🍻
Not sure why you're doing a Yank accent for a Finnish rifle ... fair enough if it was a Remington 700 ...
I did what I could do 😂 I am not the best at accents!
@@GoodCamHunting All good mate - appreciate the comparison as it is a common question for many. By the way - the Thales Factory range was my local for many years and I shot with people who worked on the development of the LA platform, more reviews of our local product the better. The last great Aussie commercial made rifle was the Omark Model 44, long time coming for Lithgow to knock our more than just Black Mountain barrels. It is a sore point however that they sell our own rifles cheaper to the Yanks than we can have them locally!
Tikka all the way
Get yourself a Bergara mate
Tikkas aren't American lol
Swipez yeah I know but I couldn't do a Finish accent 😅
For F### sake why do we have to be tortured with NOISE, some may call music, on a gun channel?
Had to fast forward frequently because of that stupid background music. It probably would've been a reasonable video, but missed a lot of content due to the horrid music.
I understand and have learnt my lesson with background music. It really does let this video down.
@@GoodCamHunting Glad to hear you are not a dogmatic person who's never listens. I'll follow your channel. :)
@@timriverstone4767 appreciate it mate! and yes, I like to make videos that I hope people will want to watch so if everyone is telling me there's too much background noise (which there was and there is 😅) then I'm going to listen.
The last video I did on a Z-Vision torch I think was much better 👍 no background music 😂
That was one very annoying video. I gave up trying to hear what could have been good info.
I've learnt my lesson with music mate, this was a very rookie mistake on my part. I thought it was cool then but now know better. If you check out my most recent video you will see I've cut right back on the music 👍
Annoying music and wobbly camerawork
I'm literally in the same position.
I already own a tikka t3 7mm mag.
Apart from other calibres I own its time for a 223 and can't decide between these exact rifles