Overballasted expired 100/150/250 HPS lamps

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  • čas přidán 30. 06. 2022
  • An experiment was done to see how an overballasted e.g. 1 kW or 0.5 kW ballast was inserted in a HPS or MH bulb. and see what happens.
    at 04:18 a hole has melted in the arc tube of lamp Nr 3.
    It was carried out in a controlled environment.
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Komentáře • 83

  • @rustymotor
    @rustymotor Před 2 lety +18

    Excellent video! Love the distressed HPS lamps, the capsuled ruptured and Sodium deposited on the glass outer envelope. Well done for 15 years on Utube!

  • @garp32
    @garp32 Před 2 lety +11

    Congratulations on 15 years of cool stuff! Keep it coming! 👍

  • @PococraftOrg
    @PococraftOrg Před 2 lety +10

    You (and Aussie, RIP) got me more into my (then small) electronics hobby when I was a kid probably over 10 years ago now.
    Haven't watched every video since then of course, though I watch some time to time.
    Super glad to see you still uploading after 15 years!

  • @SkyChaserCom
    @SkyChaserCom Před 2 lety +3

    Cool video. Interesting seeing how these lamps start with a bluish / pink glow due to the "Penning mixture" (neon and argon). Then as the sodium vaporizes it adopts that classic and beautiful orange glow.

  • @750kv8
    @750kv8 Před 2 lety +3

    Congrats on the 15 years Ray, I've been following your channel for quite some years. Yours, among some other channels, inspired me to build my own flyback & MOT setups years ago. Keep 'em coming! 👍

  • @youdontknowme5969
    @youdontknowme5969 Před 2 lety +5

    Holy crap!
    Happy 15, dude!

  • @REWYRED
    @REWYRED Před 2 lety +10

    Congrats on 15 years!
    I havent been around HID lamps too much in the past 8 or so years, before that it was almost daily..
    Best thing about HPS and Pulse start MH is they sometimes fail and will completely mirror the inside of the lamp as yours were...
    Have used mirrored "ED17" and "ED28" shape bulbs as christmas tree decorations as they look similar to old school christmas light bulbs only way bigger and cool looking.

    • @hyvahyva
      @hyvahyva Před rokem +1

      I've only had probe start ones just not start anymore or start cycling. Nothing as fun as the quartz tube going snap and silvering the outer envelope.
      I tried putting an expired probe start bulb in the microwave in hopes of exciting the mercury vapor that way and instead just got a really cool flameout and plasma from the start circuit resistor!

  • @FerralVideo
    @FerralVideo Před 2 lety +3

    Congratulations on 15. One of my first subscriptions on the platform alongside PhotonicInduction, V8Jagnut, Bigclive, and Aussie50 (RIP).

    • @theradioweyr
      @theradioweyr Před 2 lety

      Speaking of photonicinduction, do we know where he went this time?

  • @ratbag359
    @ratbag359 Před 2 lety +6

    pretty cool how two of them lamps kept running once the arc tube ruptured allowing sodium vapor to be ionized / arc in the envelope then deposit the sodium metal? on the glass.
    If it is sodium metal it will react with water.
    if other metal probably won't react.

    • @RODALCO2007
      @RODALCO2007  Před 2 lety +3

      I have seen blown sodium lamps in the skip with a silver/black coated envelope with similar colours.

    • @garrysekelli6776
      @garrysekelli6776 Před rokem

      There is some mercury in there too. Hopefully the outer bulb doesn't burst too.

  • @dash8brj
    @dash8brj Před 2 lety

    Congrats on 15 years of blowing electrical stuff up for fun and taking us along for the ride Rodalco2007!

  • @cpufrost
    @cpufrost Před 2 lety +5

    3:37 not going to lie I jumped! :-D

  • @lukesmith8792
    @lukesmith8792 Před 2 lety +8

    In the words of photonicinduction... I popped it 🤣🤣🤣 great video mate

  • @nonsuch
    @nonsuch Před 9 měsíci

    Love it. If you were local I'd give you a bunch of 1000 W HPS and Metal Halides to have fun with.

  • @elonmask50
    @elonmask50 Před 2 lety

    Congratulations on 15 yous of YearTube Ray, it has been a fun unpredictable journey, we lost some friends along the way R.I.P Aussie50, but at the end of the day, there are always microwave oven transformers.

  • @tfm55x
    @tfm55x Před 2 lety +2

    We used to use the lamp cartridges inside the glass bulbs to sharpen knives.

    • @hyvahyva
      @hyvahyva Před rokem

      Oh are they ceramic? I thought they were just quartz

  • @dimitar4y
    @dimitar4y Před 2 lety

    i love how hps looks.

  • @adrianodemetrio5607
    @adrianodemetrio5607 Před 2 lety +1

    Congrats for the 15 years! Keep up the good content :)

  • @NaoPb
    @NaoPb Před rokem

    Congratulations.

  • @dimitar4y
    @dimitar4y Před 2 lety +4

    weird how the lamps have a "life" in hours. Driving it at higher power reduces that life. I don't know how they do it, but it's done on purpose. It fascinates me how closely it matches the hour time.

    • @TheRailroad99
      @TheRailroad99 Před 2 lety +1

      It's a tradeoff between light output/efficiency and lifetime.
      Most likely you can calculate how long it takes to oxidize based on the amount of o2 molecules in the lamps atmosphere

    • @dimitar4y
      @dimitar4y Před 2 lety

      @@TheRailroad99 yes but the lifetime is fake.

  • @oblitum
    @oblitum Před 2 lety

    For others 15 and 15.. more and more 👌👍 great stuff

  • @andrewsmart2949
    @andrewsmart2949 Před 2 lety

    happy 15 years on you tube

  • @HappyDiscoDeath
    @HappyDiscoDeath Před 2 lety

    That last one really held on!

  • @ArdimanKhiar
    @ArdimanKhiar Před 2 lety

    Bro I love ur vids

  • @ATOMSHAMRADIO
    @ATOMSHAMRADIO Před 2 lety

    Crazy cool👍💥

  • @jozefnovak7750
    @jozefnovak7750 Před 5 měsíci

    Super!

  • @coalthedergsune
    @coalthedergsune Před rokem

    the insides of these bulbs are getting hotter than the sun.

  • @dmitrysysoletin9967
    @dmitrysysoletin9967 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks, it was interesting. Could you please try to break one of those "silvertop" lamps underwater? There should be a reaction between sodium and water...

  • @ocsrc
    @ocsrc Před 2 lety +1

    LED 1500 WATT panels are incredible
    Like the 🌞😎 Sun
    Lights up for miles

    • @Lunar_Capital
      @Lunar_Capital Před 2 lety

      Ok

    • @totalrecone
      @totalrecone Před 2 lety +1

      I'll put up a 1500W short arc xenon against any LED 1500 W panel. Fun with point- source lamps when they "expire" tho :)

    • @Kalvinjj
      @Kalvinjj Před 2 lety +1

      @@totalrecone This comment reminds me of pictures I saw of maintenance workers replacing IMAX projector lamps.
      They wore some quite serious protection gear.

    • @totalrecone
      @totalrecone Před 2 lety +1

      @@Kalvinjj Totally agree. Those IMAX 15kW lamps could literally blow a hole in the lamphouse should they 'go off' while under operating pressure. I had a 4.5kW xenon blow during a performance and it took out the dichroic glass mirror, dented the Strong X60 outer shell and the anode lodged itself in the shutter of the projector. The explosion rang in my ears for two days after.
      LEDs are definitely safer :)

  • @alklapaxida850
    @alklapaxida850 Před 2 lety

    nice...

  • @volvo09
    @volvo09 Před 2 lety

    Yes! Device tests!

  • @MrTurboturbine
    @MrTurboturbine Před 2 lety +2

    Sometimes the leads in the base of the lamp will melt before the tube fails at these powers.

    • @MadScientist267
      @MadScientist267 Před 2 lety

      The fact that anyone knows this means they are a waste of oxygen

  • @jamesnelson6953
    @jamesnelson6953 Před 2 lety

    sounds like my wife reaches for to finish the job off

  • @HDXFH
    @HDXFH Před 2 lety

    Nice poppage

  • @Rat-34
    @Rat-34 Před 29 dny

    How the hell did the glass not break?!

  • @flaplaya
    @flaplaya Před rokem

    Switch one over to 200 VAC Mains once after starting. Talk about popping :)

  • @samsimington5563
    @samsimington5563 Před 2 lety +2

    4:03 Holy shit!

  • @JanicekTrnecka
    @JanicekTrnecka Před 2 lety +1

    Photoinduction-ish vibes...

  • @seanriggen
    @seanriggen Před 2 lety

    👍🏻

  • @XanCraft21
    @XanCraft21 Před 2 lety

    I wonder what happens if you put double or more the amount of power on the power boost side, the outer glass shell might explode and glass will fly everywhere? I would like to see you do this again with more power when you get more free time.

    • @RODALCO2007
      @RODALCO2007  Před 2 lety

      I will do some on the capacitor bank when that project is completed.

  • @alejandrodelta8928
    @alejandrodelta8928 Před 2 lety

    Good stuff..!!! I' have one lamp of this type, but never tested it, ¿do they need an ignitor or just with the ballast will be enough? Thanks.

  • @BROKEN.WRENCH.GARAGE
    @BROKEN.WRENCH.GARAGE Před rokem

    Hey man. I'm trying to make a setup like this. Can you help me make one like yours?

  • @anttivarto7746
    @anttivarto7746 Před 8 měsíci

    Im wondering that is it possible to connect two ballasts to run one lamp? 600+400=1kW?

    • @RODALCO2007
      @RODALCO2007  Před 8 měsíci

      Yes, try it out and check if the 400W ballast doesn't overheat, because the impedances are not the same.

  • @dimitar4y
    @dimitar4y Před 2 lety

    that last one most eventful

  • @deltab9768
    @deltab9768 Před 7 měsíci

    Were these bulbs connected to 240V in series with the MOT primary? Or were they connected across ~2kV from the secondary winding?

    • @RODALCO2007
      @RODALCO2007  Před 7 měsíci +1

      The MOT's were switched in parallel with the normal 150 Watt ballast.

    • @deltab9768
      @deltab9768 Před 7 měsíci

      @@RODALCO2007 so if I understand correctly, the bulb itself had a voltage drop a bit less than 240VAC across it and was passing a few tens of amps (as shown on the dial) through the arc tube. Impressive!

    • @RODALCO2007
      @RODALCO2007  Před 7 měsíci +1

      The ballast normally limits the current to the lamp, otherwise it will self destruct as you can see in the video. A larger ballast means more current, more heat and failure of the lamp.@@deltab9768

    • @deltab9768
      @deltab9768 Před 7 měsíci

      @@RODALCO2007 makes sense. At first I was thinking the MOT’s secondaries were feeding kV to the lamp but it sounds like that’s not the case.
      I think part of my confusion was being from the USA where 120V lighting circuits are very common. So they have a ballast that both boosts voltage and regulates the current.

  • @achannelwithaprofilepictur6253

    0:00 Event Nr 1 100 W H
    0:23 Event 2 150 W HPS
    1:43 Event Nr 3 150 W HPS
    4:23 Event Nr 4 MH 250 Watt
    5:33 Event Nr 5 150 Watt HPS
    8:33 The End

  • @williamsquires3070
    @williamsquires3070 Před 2 lety

    Now, to fill the used bulbs with AA batteries and overcharge them. 🙂

  • @HanzelikR
    @HanzelikR Před 4 měsíci

    Try starting without ballast.

  • @darrellcook8253
    @darrellcook8253 Před 2 lety

    How about some low pressure sodium light failures. And metal halide, fluorescent tubes And anything else that can be overballasted. Making things go bang is its own science.

    • @RODALCO2007
      @RODALCO2007  Před 2 lety +1

      I have only 1 failes LPS sox lamp which I will overballast at some stage. Done fluro's on MOT's and they go very bright, will do some more, stay tunes. The weather is absolute crap at the moment in Auckland.

  • @hyvahyva
    @hyvahyva Před rokem

    Jet pipe overheat

  • @jp-um2fr
    @jp-um2fr Před 2 lety

    Could you not have squeezed just one little wasp into one of thos bulbs. Not seen even ONE bee here in the UK this year. Too early for wasps but I bet those buggers turn up.

  • @MadScientist267
    @MadScientist267 Před 2 lety

    What was the point in all this lol

  • @zancelary8401
    @zancelary8401 Před rokem

    Esh

  • @johnkulpowich5260
    @johnkulpowich5260 Před 2 lety

    H P S. M H. M V. All junk. Led is king now.

  • @ianhosier4042
    @ianhosier4042 Před 2 lety

    You should make a second video where you take those sodium coated bulbs down the nearest river or lake, smash them and then throw the pieces into the water.

  • @gedbill4058
    @gedbill4058 Před rokem

    Its not rocket science to see the results what would happen to the bulbs putting far too much power through them...... the bulbs would just burn out.