Ceramic Metal Halide | Maxibright 600W
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A review of the new Ceramic Metal Halide from Maxibright. It has a better spectrum than High pressure sodium and Metal Halide and more efficient too. You can get these benefits by switching to Ceramic Metal Halide but you can keep the same reflector and ballast which makes the changeover easier on the pocket.
These test results were with the Lumatek ballast but I tested it with a Lumii digital ballast and the bulb was running at 724 watts and I would worry it would burn it out. I also ran it on the Maxibright magnetic ballast and it consumed less than 540 watts and would underperform.
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I have called the lamp Ceramic HPS in the video and in the comparison table. I meant to say Ceramic metal halide, apologies for the error
Thank you. Are you using US Dollar amt.
So at min 2. The ceramic metal halide have the best numbers? Better the ceramic hps by hortilux?
You should warm people to recycle these isn't there Mercury inside just a little mercury can contaminate millions of gallons of water like a pond imagine if they dump them in the ocean it would destroy the planet this is why you cannot buy fish anymore without Mercury I'm sure
Thank you Shane! Great video once again mate. That will work perfectly for me in winter, a little extra warmth and light! Cheers 🤙💚✌
Spot on. Led lights cause too many knock on effects for controlling the environment 8 months a year in the uk. Cmh the way forward.
Always well presented factual information, thank you!
It won’t be long the US will be legal. I’m in Oklahoma, have the card and can grow 6 plants. Your videos are very informative and help us all around the world. Thank you!
i hope so.. my state is totally now surrounded and we have nothing, except driving to illinois to buy meds...
It was better when it was inlegal. They should let people grow one plant and should ban all commercial production, especially cbd.
@@jccuchvjvj why only grow one plant?? Smh
Texas needs to hurry tf up. Every since yall legalized first we can't go round down here singing that tune. " them boys from Oklahoma roll they joints all wrong" hell atleast yall can now hahahah
@@lordperezident max 4. Small growers can't compete with those with millions at legal, commercial market. For states/countries that will legalize weed it's already too late even if someone have money for start. I remember the excitement a dozen years ago growing weed. Now it's like a hay. I'm looking at these kilos with no value and it makes me sad. If you decide to pay someone to trim outdoor hemp buds by hand, you already paying him more that the product is worth. I already have seen nice looking indoor (probably not true) hemp flowers that were selling bellow electricity cost to produce them.
Thankyou. Love your videos I always learn somthing or more than just some things
How tou dont have more subscribers is the biggest mystery to me. Amazing videos.
Always great information!!
Thank you Shane !
Very cool! Nice upgrade option.
Thanks for the review and info sir
What about the fixture
That runs either buld in same light with a DIMMER switch ? also
Do a heat temp test.
In a closed 4x4, comparing heat buildup in grow tent. LED vs Hps & Cmh
Those bulb's look incredible like a ship in a bottle
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Hi Shane, the websites selling this bulb advise to use it with magnetic ballast, and avoid digital ballasts. As it contradict your advice in the video i wanted to have your opinion about that. Thanks for the great videos!
Back in the days, awesome thinking to grow in up with micro lights (leds).
Humans first evolution find fire... Next level grow green wirh leds, in God we trust, we are blessed.
Shane keep high thanks so much for sharing your knowledge.
Always good information.
When can we expect to see the Maxibright Daylight 660? Can't wait to see if it out performs the Lumatek Zeus Pro...
Great content man! Would be awesome to get a review for the Mars hydro FC 6500
Wondering if the Migro Lit shirt will be re-stocked? Tried to pick one up, but they are out of xl, &2xl.
Just bought one was wondering on the coverage on 600w cmh replacement for HP's.
Hortilux has had the c-hps de 600 and 1k out in march, the se600 killing it to
I wanna know more about your array series and how they really compare to the likes of the geek beast! Many thanks for the cool content
I was really interested in CMH for qualitative reasons. I heard CMH Produces better quality than an LED could, although I heard about it from a Cultilux representative on Growcast. I had to come to Shane to find out for sure. Now I'm debating between Mars SP3000 or an HLG Board. I don't really care about yield, I just want quality.
good information. thank you.
Those bulbs are history I've grown indoors for over 27 years. Electricity is exspensive in U K, now I've converted my lighting system to Chinese copy's of the latest light systems with exstreamly low buying and running costs.
That's the right path
Thank you for the “ yes, you should be wearing gloves too “ while handling the bulb 😉 subliminal content 👍
how about doing mh and hps side by side in a 5x5 area to simulate ''full spectrum''?have seen many growers trust this method. thanks for the lumii balast warning as i use the 600w lumii black balast?
I didnt no these existed glad I do now
They do not exist in my world.
I no
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Can ceramic hps efinitely be used in digital ballast as I have read to only use magnetic ballast with these bulbs . Thanks 👍
What I need to look for if i want to buy these plastic cable hangers as you add to your MIGRO Aray? Plastic cable hanger, clip hanger, what is it?
SO I NEED YOUR OPINION. ARE LENSES FOR COBB LED BAD GOOD OR INDIFFERENT? I NEED TO KNOW CAUSE OF ANOTHER CONVERSATION I AM HAVING THANKS LOVE THE CHANNEL
was curious to know if you announced the winner for the HLG scorpio light yet
Nice! Could you test the t5 bulbs of UVB made by Hortilux? It is promoted at many grow shops now, and Hortilux is a big name
The fs+Uvbulbs are pretty nice. Running 8 of them in a fixture I was able to go from 18 to 16 hours of light w/ no change in growth, and my plants all made fan leaf trichomes in veg. Like you’ve done a stem rub to check smell right? You can do it on the leaves. They aren’t big, but the plants get a silvery sheen to them.
What about Eye Hortilux's new Ceramic HPS bulbs? They have more blue as well as the most far red out of any bulb and a good amount of green as well. Hortilux claims that you can only use their ballasts but I'm not so sure.
Is this the 600w Maxibright CMH (CDM) Agro 3k?
What spins me put is the cmh were said to have less stretch and less red then hps.. but in your graph they have more stetch and more red? In a higher Kelvin then hps.. they have a good spectrum! Even better penetration then a ceramic hps!! Considering the ceramic hps has not alot. Etc. But I would have thought even the ceramic hps would have had more then the cmh! Good size watt for watt better then the 315w cmh! And being an e40 ederson screw fixture they can im guessing be ran at the same height as the e40 600w hps? As opposed to the Hi-Par DE 630w cmh lights which must be hung alot higher.. considering the cmh stretch less im guessing there's not alot of height issues.. very very interesting! I'll run these alongside the hps lights and swing a bit of a mixed spectrum emerson effect deal yeah.. for the ultimate frost and size and desnity combination.. im excited.
Will the ceramic hps bulb work in the gavita 600w single ended ballast????
Hey just a quick question on the aray systems. Are they RF protected?
could someone send a link in the comments so I can find the Maxibright CHPS bulb?
I´ve been googeling for 15min now and The only bulb I can find is the one from Hortilux...and that one really looks bad for me plus I think you have said that I need a special ballast for it an I dont wanna throw my working one away.
PLEASE can I get a buying link or a website where to buy it?
Please tell me where to get these cant find them anywhere i want some now they look amazing
Can you use the 600 watt ceramic Hps bulb in a CMH 315 fixture?
amazon do not sell neither do holland hydroponic?! where to buy them please?
New to me. Interesting.
Personally I would avoid using these. I’ve used all sorts over the last 12 years. I tested one last year as I like to try new stuff (especially lights). I was told that they must be used with an old magnetic ballast due to the Square wave so not sure how accurate that was? Tried it once instead of 2x315w CDM and the CDM’s were much better. Now I’m on Zeus 600w Pro & CDMs. Save your money and buy some good LED’s like Migro, Lumitek, Geekbeast etc.
What do you think about the new Maxibright Daylight Pro 660w LED.
@@frankwilliams977 a friend has just bought one and just about to do his first run with it. Tbh if it’s got Samsung & Osram LED’s in it it’ll be good. If Geekbeast were easier to get hold of I think they would dominate the market from the cost and the best light spread.
The only US labor on an HLG is loading the Japanese LED board stuffers and putting quantum boards into a shipping. box. The LEDs and
and PC board are all made overseas.
will the 600-watt Ceramic HPS outdo 2 x 315 watt 3000k CMH?
could you test the electric sky 300V2 from the green sunshine company?
I said on the last video you featured this bulb, the manufacturer says it's to be used in magnetic ballasts only
@Kris Wyatt that's what the manufacturer says, I did tell him this on a previous video
Built my own using philips 13w bulbs.Can 15w be used i can find these much easier and cheaper
Thease actually work great. Know a old guy who uses hps and halide. Switched to this and his pot got so much better. He won't use leds. Well he might now that he sees what my hlg does
Please test the Maxibright Daylight Pro 660w LED
Thanks
So where can one purchase this bulb in the US?
I haven't been able to find these in the US
@migro I have been looking for this builds for my normal hps 1000 watt fixtures could u tell me were to find them at pls?
I'm in Australia the hydroponic systems and lights are still really slow here probably because pot is still illegal here hydro shops look at me stupid when I try explaining these bulbs to them like they dont exist and they think I dont know what I'm talking about its pathetic they run hydroponic shops and they dont know shit about what's available overseas every host and mh grower would love these I've got heaps of led light fixtures I've grown with but this run I'm doing a hps in dwc I have a 315 cmh but I dont think they are as good as they say I'd prefer 600w pumping a cmh bulb.
I've spent months looking for similar bulbs to these online but anything I find close dont deliver to Australia and if they do it's in the 100s just for freight its total bs if anyone knows how or where I can get something like this please let me know its obvious Shane's not reading any of the questions hes asked🤨
Nice product introduction Shane! Those 3 year costs are harsh, and has me thinking about how much I love using LED. If setup with a large HPS grow area, I can see where the payback makes sense though.
@migro are they as efficient or less efficient than phillips sont t green hps
Plus the higher Kelvin liberates a higher resin production. Anything above 2000k amd below 3500k is perfect. I used 4000k twice and it produced big time white flowers.. but not as much production wise.
Hortilux won't tell if their Ceramic HPS would lit on a standard e ballast. But they also refuse to say that it won't lit either. I would love to see that tested.
Second this
they're picky bulbs. i have the hortilux gold series ballast that came in a kit with the bulb and it only fires up if the switch is left on prior to plugging into power (or turning on with a timer). seeing that its temperamental with the ballast the manufacturer supplied with it, i don't doubt that it could be even worse with ballasts from other manufacturers.
@@randylahey3909 that only shows the ignition of the bulb, really nothing to do with it's wattage draw
@@onlyfacts7816 its not drawing any wattage if its not igniting. Laurents comment was about whether or not it would light up in another manufacturers ballast. i'm going to assume hortilux packaged their bulb with a ballast that draws 600 watts if thats what the bulb needs...
@@randylahey3909 but did you not understand the problem with these bulbs is the wattage draw. Hense why your light didn't fire until plugging it in while on 100%. I suspect they will light just fine, for how long and if it's actually preforming at least 600watts in the question
Used to use a blue 6500k in a 600w.
Hmm I have a 600cmh hortivision looks the same what is a good hanging height as I'm at 60 cm with a gull-wing and getting stress in veg
Can you use this on a magnetic balist?
Is there such a thing as ceramic HPS?
So after CMH came out and everyone had to get new equipment, you're telling me that they can now go back to their original gear that they just decommisioned? Jesus Christ lol
I love the 600 CMH, with a xxl hood, vented with fans, you can get them, so close to your plants....
I'm a bit confused with these. On the maxibright website, it says they can be used on both digital and magnetic ballasts. However, every website that stocks them says you must only use them on magnetic. Anyone help?
Only magnetic ballast do not use a digital it will blow out your bulb
Very nice of you not to mention the more modern and way better LED Tec, cause this would be embarassing for HPS Users, but Reality bites sooner or Later. ;)
So would you if on a budget and were just running one 600 hps and used it mainly for flowering tomatoes replace it for that lamp/bulb?the tomatoes usually have a few weeks under big light,all I use is I think a max bright multi spectrum 600 hps,how long do you think this new one will last before you have to replace it?
I start them in 1 by half by 2 meter high space with 2 x 95 watt cfl is that enough?
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Sun master mult spec not maxibright,is that junk compared to this product is what I'm asking I guess,👍
Spectral depreciation is 30% after 6 months of growing. By 9 months your at 50%
Hello Shane, Thanks for all the great videos! I know you've already been asked, but I can not find an answer ... Is it really ok to use these with a digital ballast (e.g. lumatek)?
Nice.
Where can I buy it?
Can you please send me your old lights .? Great video thanks
Oh,Keith,ya little tinker...ha ha ha
I want to know how CMH responds to your errors.
You say ceramic hps, u ment ceramic metal halide right?
I checked these out and everywhere that sells them says they must be used with a magnetic ballast. Is this not the case then?
There is ceramic metal halide ballast on growershouse website. Cheap too from Arizona i believe. Look up cmh ballast
As I said in the video the Lumatek digital ballast worked but Lumii digital ballast didn't work well so it is a risk.
@@dertythegrower do you live in Arizona? See you on CZcams grower channels lol SBNV, future cannabis project.
Can u dim them down
King
What's Hych ID?
Look into cultilux cmh de 600w.. killing it .. new vids on my channel, many covering the lights and grows
MH and HPS are the best lights. OSRAM duel spec bulbs to be specific
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you want to get the eye hortilux ballast so you can use their "Blue" metal halide for plants intended for personal consumption not to wholesale.
specifically cannabis veg and especially flowering. (lower yield but superior quality)
I can't find the bulbs for sale or any information on Max bright as a company. I'm all dressed up with no place to go
MaxiBright
"All dressed up with no where to go" im weak lmao you can come to the palace, I'll direct you to the best equipment the industry has to offer!
Why you not test the Samsung lights ?
Hid , the champ
How do these compare with Dual Spectrum HPS from the likes of Omega? I cant find much info on this.
But I've read that you cant run digital ballast on these types of bulb.?. Defeats the object when using a ballast that's not very efficient with power 🤔
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great show migro ya the bulbs if you add them up every other grow you really dont get an equal comparison against the led... the lights work but man do they cost a fortune two run..
@anthony i started growing with hid and had a problem with the bulbs i was using the wrong bulb for flower i think it was,, the hid & preasure sodium worked but the 200 $ a month on top of of the reg electric bill...its nuts... led lights are cheep/cheep two run/ cheep in general your growth is just as good....winner winner chicken dinner
@anthony hps plus blurple works awesome! I’m excited to try hps + full spectrum led. Even alternating full spectrum led and blurple can make the plants look and smoke right.
@anthony what do you mean no one does it? Theirs a lot of people who mix spectrum in their grows with different lights lol you aren't the first
@@juliankirby9880 i have 3 viper spectra blurple lights they are not that great just 1 but all 3 together i grew some killer sticky icy,,, i have a cheep 4 shelf 3'x2'x5' green house with a plastic cover over the top very cheep... i have 6500 bright white sunlight under cabinet lights on the top of the shelfs so the plants in the green house have lights,,with a little blurple light my cousin's dad gave me,, for seedling/cloning...i have #2 ts 1000 mars hydro way better got them as a gift one year,,, & a tsl 2000 mars hydro witch is the best light i was able two find for the money i had... witch is a killer grow light...what ever you have will work just make it work for you... the hid bulbs start after the first grow losing there power big time if i remember right... led lights is a no brainer...but we all tried these.. there cheep cheep two get bulbs... if it were me i would put a led bulb in a metal high light fixture... two just be cheep like i am
@@drivin69 you are correct about normal hps and metal halide. The 15 dollar bulbs you get 1 harvest before quality drop, the hortilux hps or my almost 2, and the super hps and super mh(forget what it’s called) can do 2 harvests before quality and yeild drop become an issue. If you have the ability to space your plants out in a single layered space, and put the lights over top so you have one canopy, you could get some silly good results by moving and rotating plants every day or 2.
Imagine using this in your guitar amp instead of a power tube ;) POOOWWWAAAAHHH!!!!
cant buy one anywhere... im in uk
@Ocean Drive need to order from canada
Aka cmh aka lec aka cdm
Where can you buy these in europe ?
Just buy some LEDs instead you will thank me later
They seem great...
But like a lot of people the cost to run!!...still maybe one day.
Yupp. Way too expensive. Not worth it. Not sure why these companies are still making these type of bulbs?? This technology is gonna be completely obsolete in the cultivation industry within the next 10 years if not sooner!
@@lordperezident they make them bc they produce a superior specimen. I run 100% LED’s as of a couple years ago due to cost/carbon footprint concerns, but grow after grow the quality of the mh/hps specimens are just better - more vigorous, full, bushy, vibrant, you name it. I’ve grown to love my LED’s for a lot of reasons, however, and do believe they’re very much the future of indoor gardening.
@@WestSide-hl1dl hell yah i still have my 150 watt and 250 hps, i found the LED's are only good for 1 plant each, unless you have a Tent setup, my led's work good when i slam them about 10 inch away from the plant so it only covers 1 plant good then, and then i have to add another LED light, the 250 HPS can cover 3-4 plant's easy by itself
How can I contact you I really need your advice on 2 lights that I am interested in but need your imput, do you have an email I can send you my questions on thanks.
He's on IG bro
would that work in a 250 HPS?
no its a 600 watt bulb
@@paddyoo5833 no shit, I meant do max bright make a 250 bulb cause I couldn't find only 400 and up
@@DJTechnoboom Well you should have asked that. i just looked and i could not find one i bought the 600 watt and cos of black friday got it for £85 at onestop ask foe Twis tell him Paddy sent you nice geezer. Good luck
@@DJTechnoboom the ballast cost me £45 you need magnetic not digital
@@paddyoo5833 I think i asked cause i was wondering if the 400 bulb would work in. 250. But it's cool I found a good bulb on ebay for the 250. It was less then. 30
Bro, I see you also sell lights with Migro' brand. The only thing I feel confused about is your products are quite expensive. Maybe you ignored one thing, some growers need affordable units with good performance.
Got 600 and1000
It's funny to see that you have made mistakes again, Man!
Hey friends. Your video is good. But COCO is better. I stand in Dr. Coco.
All advice is,, use a magnetic ballast. You are saying digital ?
I feel confused more after I've seen your video. You apologized for what?
I am confused too. He said he made an error on the nomenclature but I don’t get it