Tweed Jacket Reviews 5,000 Subscriber Special: 1973 Datsun 260C (Nissan Cedric/Gloria 230)
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In this review, suitably attired, we go for a drive out in the Hampshire countryside to test a wonderful 1973 Datsun 260C (also known as the Nissan Cedric/Gloria 230 Series) and see how practical it is, what it is like to drive and what it is like to own. Be prepared for more in-jokes for fans of a certain long-running spy film franchise (as usual), references to Peter Serafinowicz's seminal spoof science series Look Around You, some unusual interior trim, three radios, useful side mirrors, original paintwork, no power steering, a Tudor Webasto sunroof, an umbrella handbrake and really very little of any consequence at all. Nothing untoward, then!
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Japanese cars of this era are fascinating - full of character, and unlike anything available in Europe at the time. A real survivor!
Yes, there is nothing quite like them. They have come on a long way since then, but I enjoyed this one very much indeed.
Excellent MR Lloyd, congratulations on reaching 5K.
Thank you ever so much indeed, sir!
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Most welcome MR Lloyd, what a lovely car it is too.
@@paulie-Gualtieri. , it is indeed, sir!
What a great car in great condition. The Datsuns were certainly something different on the uk roads in the early 70’s. Although they rusted just as badly as the cars made here.
Oh sir, yes, most definitely notorious for rust! 49 years later, this one has somehow survived. A very, very different car from what would have been on the roads in this country for the most part.
I love you Joseph cause you’re a brilliant knowledgeable car reviewer. Pete 🇬🇧
Thank you, sir! Glad you enjoyed the video, thank you ever so much indeed for watching.
Loving the tweed jacket review! And congratulations Mr Lloyd very well done and well deserved! 5000 subs and what a lovely way of celebrating. Thank you.
Thank you, sir! Glad you enjoyed this episode of Tweed Jacket Reviews. We did have a good time filming this (although it was a bit cold). It is indeed an appropriate celebration...
😊 Hearty congratulations on 5000 subscribers, Mr Lloyd! I can't think of a better way of marking this milestone than an early 70's Datsun. This car's smaller (and much more utilitarian) brother - the Datsun 510 - was family transport for me for much of that decade, that too had an umbrella handbrake.
Thank you, sir! The Datsun 510 was not a common car at the time, but this is even rarer. It most certainly fits in very well, as this is a really rare car, but one with lots of luxurious features. Thank you again for watching!
A wonderful car, you're lucky man Joseph having the opportunity to drive such a rare car.
That sir, is an understatement! I think that there are less than ten in the country... I was indeed truly blessed. Thank you ever so much for watching!
Excellent Tweed Jacket review special, Sir. What another wonderful Datsun, I do not remember such an early big Datsun, the backend is reminiscent of later 70s Datsun. Self seek radio & auto reverse cassette player are very posh. Another Beautifully kept Datsun, not a dated colour either.
Yes sir! A very, very unusual car, truly blessed to have had a go in this. The rear end is absolutely typical of other Datsun models from the era. Like all of Stuart's cars, it is in ridiculously nice condition.
To say I'm delighted you've reached 5k subs is an understatement. Many, many congratulations sir on a terrific achievement. Thoroughly well deserved.
Thank you, sir! It has taken a while, but we made it, your support of the channel is very much appreciated.
Congrats on 5,000 subs! Keep the videos coming 🖖
Thank you, sir! I filmed a channel update earlier today, and it will be up tomorrow.
Fantastic! 😎😎 We have been waiting patiently for this. 😃 'Coke bottle' styled cars like this are a weakness of mine.
Congratulations on the 5,000 subs! 🙂
Yes sir, this was filmed on 5th December, so I have also been waiting a while, but we did get there in the end! Thank you again for watching.
Congratulations Joseph on reach 5,000 subscribers!
And what an unusual Datsun!
Yes, very 1970's; its styling reminds me of the Toyota Corona Mark II of the same era. This particular Datsun never was imported into the US, Datsun vehicles were mostly 4 cylinder. The front headrests and IP remind me of Datsun cars of the era, and I do love that umbrella handbrake, a throwback to that era! I even see that it has rear fibre optic monitors for the taillamps! And those taillamps are very Japanese!
Simply delightful, and thank you very much for featuring this beautiful classic Datsun! And thank you to the owner for preserving this Datsun!
Thank you, sir! Indeed, an extremely unusual car in this country, I don't think the US market got these at all, as you say. The interior probably has some bits on it which would be familiar to fans of other Datsuns from the era. Stuart has a marvellous collection, but this is my favourite of them all.
Very well done on reaching 5K subs. A very informative video about a very rare car indeed on these shores. Keep up the good work sir.
Thank you, Mr G! It's been quite a journey from the days of less than 500 subscribers, and I gather you have been around for a lot of it.
Congratulations Joseph on reaching your well deserved milestone.
Thank you ever so much indeed, sir!
Congratulations on reaching 5k subscribers, all hard won I’m sure. Continue to appreciate the great content and a very very rare, and worthy, celebration car!
Thank you, sir! It's only around 840 videos and three and a half years, but it doesn't matter any more, as we made it, and I got to drive this, which was amazing.
What a brilliantly characterful car! Congrats on the 5k subscribers…and also for managing to synchronise with the horse that’s walking along outside the pub at 5:24 - I dread to think how many takes it took to achieve that…!!
It was just a happy accident, sir! The New Forest ponies are free to wander around wherever they like, and this one just seemed to know what to do. It took a while, but we finally made it. Thank you for watching!
Well done on 5k Subs Sir and what a lovely car to celebrate in, a lovely example of a Datsun.
Thank you, Mr Watters! We finally made it. Glad you enjoyed this incredibly rare Datsun.
Great car. Great condition and congratulations on 5K subs!
Thank you ever so much indeed, sir!
Sir, many congratulations on your milestone, I am really pleased for you. Here's to many more.
What a bonus treat! I remember these from my childhood trips to the Scottish motorshow in Glasgow in the 70s. The spec sheets in the brochures I "acquired" were so different to anything else on the market other than luxury vehicles. Sadly, my petitions to Dad to try one out fell on deaf ears and we stuck with a string of Fords as main family transport
Thank you for watching, sir! We did finally make it, after many, many videos and a number of years.
The brochures must have been entertaining at the time, although you naturally had no influence on the purchasing decisions of your father at all!
That was superb and one of your best sir
Thank you, sir! We did put a bit of effort into this one. Glad you enjoyed it!
I love this before even watching it! We had these in New Zealand, although they are rare now! Styling almost American, Dodge-influenced. yet something else like a Consul Granada. Thanks.
You can indeed see some late 1960s/early 1970s Chrysler Corporation design influences in the styling of this Datsun, just on a bit of a smaller scale.
Congratulations on reaching 5k subscribers Joseph.
Thank you once again, sir! Your support over the years has been ever so valuable.
Sooo cool! You are just a natural! Many congratulations, Joseph! Look forward to hearing more about your new adventure in 2022!
Thank you ever so much indeed for watching, my friend! I really appreciate it.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting it's a pleasure, Joseph!
@@kalinageorgieva214 , have a super week, my friend!
@@lloydvehicleconsulting thank you very much! and you, too:)
Congratulations on hitting 5,000 Subscribers Sir!!
Thank you ever so much indeed, sir!
Congratulations on making 5k subscribers.
It's interesting that all Japanese saloons of the 60s & 70s had that certain style.
Our 1981 NissanDatsun Bluebird had wing mirrors on the wings. They actually work better than door mirrors in some ways as you don't have to refocus your eyes. Of course by that time they were electrically adjusted from within the car.
Thank you, sir! Yes, many of the Japanese saloons cars of the time did look quite similar for some reason. The Honda Ballade (the Japanese version of the Triumph Acclaim) also had those wing mirrors as opposed to the door mirrors. Of course the ones on that Bluebird were electric!
Wow that's just amazing how has that survived, same age as me too born in 1973!
Yes, it is almost all original paint, and not restored at all. Definitely quite something considering it is 49 years old!
@@lloydvehicleconsulting not all 49 year old things are rotten!
I liked the rear design and lighting arrangement it was a nice looking car
@@stuartsaunders4518 , yes sir, not rotten at all! The typically Japanese rear light design is indeed quite pleasant, really.
Congratulations Mister Lloyd.
Thank you ever so much indeed, sir!
Lovely machine, a true JDM unicorn well worth the wait, thank you
It certainly was well worth the wait, thank you ever so much indeed Mr and Mrs Quirk!
A genuine privelege to be able to enjoy another Tweed Jacket Review.
Congratulations on a very hard earned 5000 subscribers.
As for the Datsun 260C, I for one would have been 6 years old going on 7 and car crazy. My Dad had just replaced a written off Simca 1501S with the black grille and driving lights, with a Renault 16 TL but nothing matched the attraction of these 3 box Datsuns with the chrome windscreen surrounds and American Style big chrome bumpers. Twin headlamps and massive tailights à la Lincoln Continental or Dodge Polara/ Plymouth Fury. The Mk1 Granada did it well too, as did the Vauxhall Victor and Ventora, but the Datsun 260C was less compromise and more confident embodiment of the American Shape and Style and all the better for it.
The 1980 Toyota Crown did it equally as well and the 1979/80 Nissan Laurel.
Great memories.
Mr Coleman is a bit fan of these, and equally the Toyota Crowns and Nissan/Datsun Laurels that you mention. Strange that your father had "foreign cars" back in 1973. The Granadas/Ventoras were probably the main rivals to these back in the day, the P6 and Triumph 2000/2500 may have been as well, despite the fact that the latter two were much older designs. The Dodge Polara and Plymouth Fury did sort of look similar to this...
@@lloydvehicleconsulting my Father's first Foreign Car was the Simca because he was a Rootes Group Guy who only ran Arrow Hilman Minxs and Hunters so I think that the Simca arrived through the Rootes Chrysler tie up. He did like the Renault 16 but it must have been too weird for him because it was swapped for a gorgeous Triumph 2000.
However, the bug was caught and 1975 brought a Peugeot 504 .
You are so right though because foreign cars were rare compared to British Makes.
Oh sir, Simcas did indeed arrive over here, although I think initially they were not part of the Chrysler Group. We like Triumph 2000s and Peugeot 504s, sir....
It's strange how one's liking and preferences can be when it comes to cars. I like the chrome and vinyl opulence of this car. It definitely appeals to my aesthetic senses.
Glad you enjoyed it, sir! Perhaps not to everyone's taste, but I indeed rather like it...
Fabulous survivor car. I remember these when new. The 2 door pillarless coupe version was truly gorgeous. So stupidly rare now. Power windows, power steering and air conditioning available in Japan and a few other markets.
Yes, I think there are less than ten on the road in this country now! I have seen video of the Coupé, which does look very nice. I could have done with power steering and electric windows myself, but the action of the wind up windows was really rather nice.
It is such a beauty.
It's extremely rare, I can't believe I was allowed a go in this!
Amazing video great job also I'm an owner of a 260c myself exactly the same as the one reviewed and I can say power steering and AC were optional extras along with some slightly later models I've seen having electric windows
Thank you, Ryan! I think I am the only person to have had the privilege of reviewing one of these on CZcams in this country... Stuart also has a 260Z, which I reviewed on Tweed Jacket Reviews for the Christmas Special. I would prefer power steering, but I have driven cars which are more difficult to drive than this, to be honest! The Rover P4 springs to mind straightaway...
Cedric, Laurel, Gloria from Nissan and Toyota’s Crown, Cressida, and Corona were the luxury cars when I was growing up in Fiji in the late 70s 80s and into the 90s. A lot of them were used as taxis.
Thank you very much indeed for watching and commenting!
The AM powered self seeking radio and electric switched aerial were the standard fitment, when seeking stations the cursor pointer was moved across the display by a motor. The Estate 260c even in 1975 only had 100% PVC seats no cloth inserts. The Cabin Dome light would originally have been mounted in the centre of the roof, the fitting of the Webasto roof meant it had to be relocated. The Foot Well cold air pull controls mirrored the Rover P5 & P5B which had the same arrangement. The saloon had the Heated Rear Window and the control was a clock work time switch which the user could set to a duration of upto 15 minutes just by sliding the control. Amazingly the 260c Saloon had a fibre optic tell tale unit mounted between the rear seats so the driver could see the rear indicator bulbs were working. The underbonnet light could be unclipped and the wire inside unwound and the light used as a lead light my Dad 'discovered this after 10 years of ownership.
Very advanced equipment for the time, and rather a complicated and busy set of features, really! That underbonnet light alone does sound to have been thought through quite carefully. I didn't dare touch that Webasto roof in the middle of winter, but I have seen the car with it open a few months ago, and it is absolutely glorious.
Great review! You missed a couple of details though. I had a similar car in Australia 20 years ago and it had remote boot release,
operated by a vacuum hose from the intake manifold, so it would only work when the engine was running. I believe it was the round button that is visible for a split second in a shot of the handbrake lever next to it.
Also it had a "cobra head" on the parcel shelf with two red "eyes" these would indicate if the rear lights were working, via optic fibre cables!! Red lamps in the door corners that would light when the doors opened was also not very common on cars of the day. Last but not least a light in the engine bay that would come on when the bonnet was opened that could be taken off, to reveal an extension cord so you could use it as a work lamp around the engine.
I payed 1100$ for it and gave it to a friend when I moved back to Europe, he drove it but didn't park it in a garage so the interior disintegrated within a couple of years in the harsh Adelaide sun. So it probably sadly ended at a wreckers. I think about that car all the time and really miss it, it was the best and coolest car that I ever have owned, and you are right, they are super rare now...
Yes, you are probably right, although given that I had nothing to go on when making this video, I don't really think that I "missed things out".
To understand how advanced this car was for its time, this was being made at the same time as the Austin/Morris 1800 landcrab, Triumph 2000 and the Humber Sceptre.
Absolutely right, all quite old designs when this car was made in 1973.
Hard to believe now but back when this thing was new many British drivers would 'look down their nose' at imported Japanese cars - indeed I'm old enough to remember the prejudicial expression 'cheap Japanese rubbish' was once commonplace. No one says that anymore of course, but I'd still struggle to claim that this Datsun is a especially handsome piece of styling, and the car is obviously loaded with far too much chrome for European tastes. Compare this design to the relatively clean lines of a early Consul/Granada of much the same era for instance.
Nevertheless, a vanishingly rare and interesting survivor car and what a fitting choice to celebrate the new subscriber milestone.
Thank you, sir! They very much wanted to be like the American cars of the time, and they sort of succeeded, but that wasn't really the sort of thing we necessarily wanted over here at the time. However, these days, it looks very, very appealing, and absolutely nobody on the road who sees one would know what it is apart from quite an informed enthusiast! This is absolutely not rubbish, it was brilliant.
I used to have a 280c estate, it was properly cool car 😊
Sir, I have seen one of those, and they are rather agreeable. Thank you ever so much indeed for watching and commenting!
Steering was recirculating ball steering box. My Dad's 1975 260c Estate had no power steering as standard it was an option but the saloon of 1975 did. I learnt to drive in it and found the engine quite noisy and course especially for a 6 cylinder. My Mum's 1971 Rover P5B Coupe V8 was obviously on a whole different level
Thank you for watching, Richard! Was quite a privilege to drive this, even without the power steering. I am hoping to drive a P5B on the channel quite soon, actually....
I enjoyed this car review, I like the road test first then the more detailed car walk around.. T. J. looks a bit like Tim nice but dim,Harry Enfield.
Glad you enjoyed the video, there is a whole playlist of Tweed Jacket Reviews on my channel homepage if you fancy seeing some more.
Congratulations on reaching this milestone, 50k by this time next year?
Well sir, that would be wonderful, not sure if it will happen, however!
Very nice
It was an amazing car! Thank you ever so much indeed for watching and commenting.
Well done, Joseph!
Thank you ever so much indeed, sir! It wouldn't have been possible without you.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting really?!
@@NicholasPaulFranks , you co-created the entire channel, sir, including Tweed Jacket Reviews!
@@lloydvehicleconsulting That’s very kind, brother, but I think my contribution to this has been relatively minimal!
@@NicholasPaulFranks , it is still very much appreciated, sir!
My late Dad bought one in 1974 - it was an amazing luxury car for the time - unfortunately it had completely rusted out by 1984 - and seeing it being loaded onto the back of a scrap car lorry still upsets me now -
Thanks for watching, Robin! Sorry to hear about your father's Datsun. So many of these did succumb to rust, sadly.
Indeed they did - he always reckoned he had 120 out of it when it was new - I loved all the chrome and buttons for the rear radio - my friends from school all thought it was an American car - the wheel trims would regularly pop off on cornering - and I used to find them walking to school and give them back to my Dad who would give me 50 pence if when I found one . ! Great Channel by the way - very nostalgic .......Best Wishes Robin
And just to add - that weird round interior ceiling light would fall of and the passengers would use it as an ashtray instead - and lastly - we went on holiday once and my Dad wdn't let this E type get get past on the motorway at very high speeds in the old 260c - also funnily enough my Dad was Stuart too like the owner of this and we used to holiday in the New Forest - so seeing this vid was more than nostalgic for me.....
Well, we have plenty more nostalgic treats (and other car reviews) on the channel, such as a 1982 Ford Granada, a 1966 Jaguar E-Type, a 1981 Vauxhall Chevette HSR and a 1982 Ford Capri on the Tweed Jacket Reviews playlist.
Yes, it was a lovely area to film this, he also has a 1976 Datsun 260Z which I filmed after this one in a slightly less busy car park!
Nice
It certainly was!
They did get power steering (seen it in workshop manual) but UK cars never got it.
Thank you very much indeed for watching and commenting!
did you forget to mention the rear brake lights indicator in the mirror from the rear parcel shelf device
Probably, it's been nine months since I filmed this.
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Wait what is it PRINCE engined???? A little DS humour there!
You that we don't talk about those engines on this channel, sir....
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Prince Nissan - Prince DS lol. 🤣
@@alaricbragg7843 , indeed, sir!
What's Japanese for Live and Let Die
生きて死ぬ, apparently, sir!
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Are there often riderless ponies hanging about waiting for pubs to open in that area?
It's the New Forest, sir, the ponies are everywhere and they go around free!
Happy 5k sir. What a car to do it with. I thought it would be a dead cert for secret mission storage though. Disappointing
I know, sir! This is a sort of one in a lifetime car, and the secret mission document storage should have been amazing, but it was not.
Hi Joseph - I was wondering if your contact Stuart would be interested in selling this 260c to me - I really feel I need to get one - my Dad Joseph Stuart had one from new - probably not but I thought Id enquire anyway Best Wishes Robin.
I have asked Stuart, and I don't believe he wants to sell it (unsurprisingly), but he is nevertheless intrigued that someone else is so interested in it...
And then began a love affair for New Zealand Taxi drivers with big Japanese sedans that continues to this day...
The Cedric/Gloria has been a very popular taxi in Japan for many years, sir, I believe.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting In New Zealand the early Crown and Cressida models were popular Taxis! I nearly sent you a pic the other day of some Camry Taxis here but they ran on something ryming with 'weasel...' I remember this Datsun well because my high school's accounting teacher had one back in the 1990s - It was red with a tan vinyl roof.
@@alaricbragg7843 , yes sir, we will have to avoid talking about those Camrys. Can't believe these were knocking around in the 1990s in New Zealand!
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Well cars don't rust so much here... Actually I finished high school in 2000 when I last saw it!
@@alaricbragg7843 , that's right sir, we have a much better climate for corrosion.