🛴[Multilingual sub] The importance of the battery pack ! ⚡Hunter QUAD/Electric hyper scooter/전동킥보드
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- čas přidán 25. 09. 2021
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France: xerider.com
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-.모델명: Hunter Quad
-.제조사: R7 Tech (Korea)
-.최대 출력: 14,000w
-.배터리: Samsung 50E / 72V 50Ah, 75Ah
-.모터: Quad core motor (네오디움 자석 폭 100mm 자체 개발)
-.휠: 모터 완전 분리형, 방열 타공 휠커버
-.컨트롤러 : 4ea * 45A
-.브레이크 시스템 : 유압 브레이크
-.서스펜션 : 유압+스프링 쇽 4ea
-.타이어: 13" 튜브리스 165mm 초광폭 (13"X6.5-6)
-.사이즈: H750~1350, W700, L1520mm, 68~73kg
-.Made in Korea
-.네이버까페: naver.me/GOxlgrHe
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[Detailed Specifications]
- Model name: Hunter Quad
- Manufacturer: R7 Tech (Korea)
-.Maximum output: 14,000w
- Battery: Samsung 50E / 72 V 50 Ah, 75 Ah
-.Motor: Quad core motor (Neodium magnet width 100mm self-developed)
-.wheel: motor fully detachable, heat dissipation perforated wheel cover
-.Controller: 4 ea × 45A
-.Brake system: hydraulic brake
-.Suspension: Hydraulic+Spring Shock 4 ea
-.Tires: 13" tubeless 165 mm ultra-wide (13"X6.5-6)
-.Size: H750 to 1350, W700, L1520mm, 68 to 73 kg
-.Made in Korea
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[Detailed Specifications]
-.Nom du modèle : Hunter QUAD
-.Fabricant: R7 Tech (Corée)
-.Produit maximal : 14 000 w
- Batterie Samsung 50E / 72V 50Ah, 75Ah
-.Moteur: Quad Core motor (Neodium magnétique large de 100 mm)
-.Wheel : moteur complètement détachable, couverture de roue à perforation thermique
-.Contrôleur : 4ea * 45A
-.Système de freinage : frein hydraulique
-.Suspension : hydraulique + choc de ressort 4ea
-.Tires : 13" sans tube 165 mm super large (13"X6.5-6)
-.Taille : H750-1350, W700, L1520 mm, 68-73 kg
-.Made in Korea - Auta a dopravní prostředky
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For purchase inquiry (price including shipping) and purchase for "Hunter Quad", please refer to the link below managed by R7 Tech and CTNS.
www.hunter-quad.com
Thanks for the Greek subs!!!🙏
One of your best videos!!👏👏
Respect from Greece 🇬🇷💯
Thank you for your interest.👏
We look forward to seeing you again with useful information.😁🤗
Excellent points you make. I hope the mfg never go cheap on the bms for everyone safety. Go cheap elsewhere like battery or tires but never bms and possibly start a fire where people live.
Beautiful scooter. Wish Hunter Quad still had a website.
Consumers prefer low-priced products made in China. But they don't know that safety will be compromised. This is a video to inform you about this part, and thank you for responding to my opinion.
영상 잘 보고 있습니다 ~^^
굿~
감사합니다.👍😁🤗
5:54 - 6:40
That tips when you are riding this type of big scoot is helpful lifehack like that thumbs up 👍🏻
I'm glad it's helpful. After actually driving a lot, I got a knack for it. Thank you.👏👏🤗
- yeah to successfully cross the humps cause if you have more force to the front tire have a possibility to knock you down the fact that this type of scoot is heavy
Полезное видео, спасибо.
О технической части есть о чем поговорить, но я стараюсь затронуть ее всякий раз, когда не катаюсь. 🤗 Спасибо.
저는 위페드RR풀튜닝 타고이습니다 영상보다가 구독하고갑니당
관심 감사합니다.😶
😎👍... I ❤ this Scooter
Thank you for your interest.👏👏🤗
I will add two of them and make a stretch one to ride 150 mile distance in one charge 😁
안녕하세요 반가워요 좋아요 화이팅 좋아요 수고하세요 🖐🖐🖐대박 대박 대박 👍👍👍🎊🎊🎊🎊🎊🎊
반갑습니다.
관심 감사합니다.🤗
좋은 이야기 해주셔서 고맙습니다
더 많은 얘기를 하고 싶지만 편집시간의 한계네요.~😆
즐거운 한주 보내세요.^^
어설픈 점핑은 뒷바퀴가 요철에 걸리면서 더큰 불안전성을 초래할수두 있습쥬 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ(골로 갈뻔한 1인,....ㅠㅠ)
연속요철이나 인지못한 요철의경우는 때론 기체를 믿고 찍어버리는게 더 안전하기두 하더라구유...ㅜㅜ
대신 그만큼 점검에 힘써야겠지유....
오늘두 좋은정보 얻구갑니다유~!
점핑도 박자를 잘 못 마 추거나 점핑후 앞바퀴 낙차지점이 더 높은 곳을 만나면 점핑을 아니한만 못한 충격을 먹긴합니다.~
연속 점핑은 피곤해서 서스를 최대한 부드럽게 세팅하고 요철부를 무시하고 지나가는게 편하긴합니다.
아~ 즐거운 월요일 한주가 시작되었네요.~ㅋ
오 머드가드 다셨군용 뒤에도 언넝 다셔서 더 좋은 라이딩 하시길 바래욤!
아~
머드가드는 2년전에 가지고 있던걸 지금까지 달지 않다가 한번 달아봤어요.
나름 괜찮네요.^^👏👏😁
@@daynight7983 😉😘🥰
👏👏👏👍👍👍
😆🤗👍👍
Very good. Do you know Nuno? I think he will have the Quad very soon in Portugal.
Yes I know. Now it's time for the QUAD to arrive.🤗
Bonjour je l'adore cette trottinette alors quand arrivera t'elle en FRANCE 🤔
Cette partie, je ne la connais pas. Je pense que vous devriez contacter le siège social. Il y a une information de contact dans la zone de description au bas de la vidéo.
congratulations for the videos, do you think it would be possible to use prius cells on these scooters, some have 7.8 volts or 8.2, but amperage is high, would that be possible?
When I looked for a cell for a Toyota Prius car, I found that there are 6 of them in a pack with a rated voltage of 1.2v. It is 7.2 volts per pack and 72 volts in parallel with 10, so there seems to be no problem with the pack combination.
It's just a matter of whether it is possible to optimize the internal space of the battery and obtain an appropriate BMS.
Как называются фары?
Hello 👋!!
반가워요.🤗😁
How Do you purchase the R7 Hunter Quad Electric Scooter from South Korea
If you are in Korea, you can purchase it after making a reservation at R7 tech partner stores.
You can check the nationwide cooperative stores on Naver Cafe.
Naver Cafe: naver.me/GOxlgrHe
I have some questions and concerns regarding the battery packs. It looks like the compartment can only fit 10 21700 batteries in parallel. So it's giving you 35Ah total. But for the 75Ah option there is no more room available in the compartment to fit 15 cells in parallel. I don't think there are any 7500mAh battery cells from Samsung or LG. Are you guys getting the 7500mAh 21700 batteries from Chinese supplier? If so, what brand and model is it? I would like to get the data sheet for it.
Once you see the real Hunter Quad, it is easy to understand.
The battery compartment is quite large, making it much larger than a DTX. The wheelbase is also the longest model, with a total length of 1540 mm front and rear.
The parallel arrangement of battery packs is set by combining the horizontal and vertical positions.
By putting Lexan on the footrest, that space is also utilized.
It's a fairly large model, so 72v 75Ah is possible.
This model is designed and assembled in Korea, the cell is Samsung 21700 50E, and it is packed by CTNS, a domestic battery packing company.
So the price is quite high.
@@daynight7983 Ah I see. I understand it now. Thanks
Another nice vídeo my friend. How many amps does your battery BMS has?
nice to meet you. friend.😁
The same rating as the quad from the factory is 100A. 10 seconds is a common bms for charging and discharging lines capable of up to 200A instantaneously.
It can drive the controller 180A enough.
If you want to overtune, it may be possible to change the bms and control to a higher product, but other parts may be less durable.
@@daynight7983 mine is 100amp too só Im fine with my Quad right? Thanks
@@Nuno_Tomas
No problem.~👍
Bro can you make review about your accessories.tnx
I don't do a lot of tuning. Only signals and lights required by domestic law are self-installed.
There are some items that are only available in Korea, so I will simply replace it with a purchase list.
Bike switch (handle left):
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Spirit Beast signal:
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Meiran X5 tail light:
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side mirror:
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Light: Goldrunway 40W, 25W
Power bank (12v): only sold in Korea (samsung cell)
CO2 Injector:
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Front mudguard: a product from a domestic tuning company
Mounts for Insta 360 one x:
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@@daynight7983 thanks bro and keep always up we support you
Pls. Put the mudguard...thanks God bless
(philippines)
Mudguards are optional tuning parts.😅
@@daynight7983 ah ! Ok ..thanks
@@zhayounacku5674
Please note that I have a picture on my Facebook page.😁
- literally beast specs of electric scooter damn no one can surpass that specs the fact that 72volts 50/75ah is a stock damn
I am so happy that I can run fast even with a high-capacity battery and, above all, run endlessly without a temperature cut. There are many people who do not know that it is different from existing products. As more users experience it, they will know this surprising fact. I look forward to that day coming soon.😁
- i wish i could have one HAHA btw I'm from Philippines sirr
Hello Day and night hunter please can you send the price of the 505 Quad new version and how much sending to Europe Belgium I will have one of it if I can known the prices please help me 🤙👍
Hello.
See the link.
Sales in France: www.xerider.com www.funtrott.fr
Seller in all other countries: hunter-quad.com
Approximate price is around USD 7,200/ USD 8,500 depending on battery capacity (50Ah/ 75Ah), excluding shipping and customs duties.
How did you guys built a battery with much more capacity than the other models on the market?
This is possible because the length of the product is a fairly large model of 1540mm. The width of the footrest is also quite wide.
@@daynight7983 Interesting. The Dualtron X and Currus Panther are very large as well, but they stand no chance against the Hunter haha
and how much do it sell for in pounds
75 Ah is USD 6,500 in domestic.
Overseas purchases will vary according to exchange rates, customs duties, and shipping charges in each country.
Currently, overseas individual purchases seem to be difficult.
Супер электросамокат. Производство такое аппарат сколько будет стоить. В России многи ребята купили бы такой аппарат.
Не настроенный по стране стоит 6500 долларов. Поинтересуйтесь в головном офисе, есть ли возможность покупки за границей.
Штаб-квартира R7 Tech:
WhatsApp +82 10-2063-7432
pksoo70@naver.com
In Russian translation, please?
Russian language has also been added.🤗
- sirr I'm just curious for 72volts 75ah variant it is okay to have a external battery pack or not? Safe to have a external pack or not
Currently, some domestic users personally add 25Ah and attach it to the handle post. That's a total of 100 Ah. However, it is not recommended because of the high center of gravity.
@@daynight7983 i agree with that it's over voltage HAHAH
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이름좀...
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Samsung 21700 50E batteries only deliver 9.8A continuous power per cell, so 9.8A x 10p gives you 98A out of the battery pack... 98A x 84V full charge would give you 8232 watts of power not 14000 watts. It does have 14.7A peak power per cell but that is max peak/pulse power...not sustained power. It's not a true 14000+ watts of power. Having 4 x 50A controllers would not be necessary...and 4 motors are not necessary either. Just 2 x 50A controllers and 2 x 72V motors would be fine and you would still be able to reach 123 km/h or even faster.. The extra weight in the 4 motors will slow the scooter down, and the handling will be very heavy, so quick turning response will be difficult..
That's a good comment.
If you check the specifications of Minimotors or Weped's products, there are products with an output of 10,000~30,000w among 50Ah battery packs (or less than 50Ah) using Samsung 21700 50E cells. Do you think the product specs are coming?
Most of the models produced calculate the output based on the peak value of the part. This part is not a matter of right or wrong, but the customary notation method of manufacturers.
Motor, controller, BMS, and cell all have peak values. It is only temperature related and can usually hold a peak value of about 10 seconds. It can be used in driving situations that require high torque in about 10 seconds. Overtaking a vehicle, making a sudden start, accelerating uphill, etc...
There are two models I have ridden.
-50Ah battery, controller 45A*2, motor 2ea
-50Ah battery, controller 45A*4, motor 4ea
If your theory is correct, it is correct that there is little difference in performance between the two models.
However, the top model has a top speed of 85 to 90 kph, and the model below has a top speed of 124 to 135 kph. The torque is also doubled.
This part has been confirmed by real tests (20,000 km) for a long time.
It is better to establish the theory based on practical experience.
@@daynight7983 Yeah, the peak instant power of 14.7A (147A) would certainly help in the initial part of the acceleration. But the sustained power drops to 98A...
The scooter with 4 x 45A with 4 motors can go faster top speed than the scooter with 2 x 45A with 2 motors if the battery is putting out more power than 90A. If it's putting out 130A of sustained power it will certainly go faster (higher top speed). Samsung 50E is not bad, but there are other batteries that deliver more continuous power. Both the controllers and motors are limited by the battery's output.
If you are referring to Dualtron Storm Limited (the U.S. market) it uses LG M50T. They don't use Samsung 50E.. A lot of owners are having problem with the top speed not being able to reach the advertised speed (120 kph) anywhere near it. My concern is that the LG M50T battery power output drops to 2.43A per cell, 21.87A (2.43A x 9p) and not full 120A (Storm Limited has 2 x 60A controllers) if the battery's operating temperature drops below 10C (50F). That's nearly 6 times less power and people are having trouble getting past 40 or 45 mph. It also drops power by half when it gets too warm above 25C (77F). Controllers and motors can't do much if the battery can't supply enough power to meet power demand..
@@noobz5056
QUAD's 50Ah and 75Ah models(50E cell) have the same performance (torque, top speed). We rode together and saw it for ourselves. Can you explain this part?
Weped SST, FS, etc all use Samsung 50E cells. Less than 50 Ah. The controller is a whopping 2*200A. Of course, it is set by lowering the current, but you can use all the peak values of the battery.
I test drove them all. Peak specs govern all performance. It is only necessary to take measures against heat. QUAD has such heat countermeasures.
As explained in the video, the way to increase the output is simply to replace the controller. If all the peak current values of the battery pack can be used, the performance is easily improved.
DT storm Limited will also be able to achieve the speed indicated in the specification if equipped with a Kelly controller 2*200A.
Test drive models such as QUAD, SST and FS. You'll quickly find that your theory doesn't match reality. I am riding QUAD for 20,000 km and I am experiencing with my body that the actual output is more than double that of Thunder 1(35E 35Ah)
A theory that is not confirmed by experience is not accurate information.
@@daynight7983 I wonder if the 75Ah Samsung battery pack is getting heat build-up.. Extra 50A (147A sustained power) of current flow is hard on the battery pack. What metal are they using to connect the 75Ah batteries together?.. If it's not pure copper it will limit current flow...because of the resistance and heat build-up. Spot welding isn't good either because it doesn't provide enough contact coverage on the cells. Plus the weight of the battery is increased by 50%. Depending on temperature (both operating and ambient temperature of the battery) with power loss and extra weight of the 75Ah battery equipped scooter may not perform any better than the 50Ah scooter. I am afraid to say that neither the 50Ah nor 75Ah Samsung battery packs for the Quad scooters are using copper with proper thickness to sufficiently and effectively deliver that current. Less heat build-up on the 50Ah pack version however.
The max peak or pulse power from the battery is only good for the initial part of the acceleration, meaning that each time you pull that throttle, for very short amount of time you will feel that boost or torque but not the top speed. To get that higher top speed you need the continuous sustained current from the battery.
Weped SST is putting out 132A (14.7A x 9) at peak current. But it's also considerably lighter 115 lbs, whereas yours weigh 150 lbs? Plus the SST is on two motors so the power delivery is more efficient. You can get to 75 mph with it. You're not getting anywhere close to 400A from the controllers, realistic peak figure is 132A and 88A sustained power... That 30,000W+ is for marketing hype.
The Dualtron Thunder 1 puts out 80A x 67V, gives you 5360W, whereas yours puts out 147A peak current, giving you 12,348W. That's why you feel twice the power in initial part of the acceleration. But the top speed will differ less because your power drops to 8232W. The controllers and the motors can't do much if the battery puts out limited power, as the very source of power comes from the battery.
@@noobz5056
It's getting longer and longer. The torque increase effect is better than the weight increase due to the number of parallel batteries. The exaggerated advertisement part of 400A was explained first in my video. It controls by limiting the 400A output and has the advantage of reducing the failure of the controller.
You said in the beginning that the quad's 4 motors and controller were unnecessary. 2@50A because the battery cannot supply enough power. They said 2 motors would suffice. I have been riding 4@45A, 4 motors for a year, and I am enjoying it leisurely and fun with twice the output (torque, top speed). Excessive commentary style and my battery has over 20,000 km.
Even at a temperature of 30 degrees Celsius in midsummer, I am enjoying long-distance high-speed commentary without BMS temperature cut or controller temperature cut. We do what we can without a cooling fan.
By the way, I am a user. The battery packing method cannot be answered unless it is opened.
Torque and maximum speed vary according to the length of the neodymium magnet of the motor, the thickness of the copper winding, and the number of turns. The peak current is not short-lived and can be accelerated at the moment when sufficient maximum speed is required.
It also gives you plenty of time to pass a vehicle on an uphill slope. When the QUAD is delivered to users in Europe at the end of April, you will know more clearly through reviews. You will be amazed at the overflowing talk.
I have driven 80,000 km for 8 years and experienced many models, so I know from experience that there was a problem and the QUAD was the solution.
Any further recurring theoretical debates seem meaningless. Please feel it for yourself.
Please test drive the Numo version of SST, FS, and R7 Tech's QUAD later.
how much does such a configuration cost?
It is on sale in Korea for 6,500 USD.
@@daynight7983 Great price
@@daynight7983 How much does the tires cost separately? since they certainly do not sell with us.
@@user-ie5cq5yr5s
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- 6,500usd sirr?
The fact that in philippine money value is around 300,000php - 325,000php
Great job price please iam usa
The untuned one is 6,500 USD in the country. Please inquire at the head office if it is possible to purchase overseas.
R7 Tech Headquarters:
WhatsApp +82 10-2063-7432
pksoo70@naver.com
저는 정말 관심이 많습니다. 저는 뉴저지에 살고 있으며 귀하의 모든 비디오를 사용하고 보았고 귀하의 작업이 더 마음에 들 때마다 놀랍고 귀하의 프로젝트에 행운을 빕니다. 6500은 그만한 가치가 있습니다. 당신이 사용하는 하나.
@@pipesierra1
Thank you for your interest in me.👍
I hope that individual overseas purchases are possible.🤗
hello how are you i saw a video
on youtube that there are two
hunters in new york now more
than ever i think i will have mine
soon so i am saving to have mine
thanks and good luck
@@pipesierra1
yes I know Samples will arrive soon in Portugal. If an overseas sales network is established, it will be possible to purchase more easily.
Hi my friend,🙏
I want your lights...
A friend give me a battery same as mine with the difference of BMS (i have 100a HEYO 16s)
For now, (till the big controllers come) i work the scooter with 35a controllers and batteries 60v 21a + 14,4v 20a extra = 20s 72v
Now my friends battery is better to conect it in parallel (pass bms) with mine and have 60v 21a+21a= 60v 42a + 4s extra 72v
Or my friends battery change all the connections and make 1 4s 14.4v with many amber and conect them in series (as i already have the small)
And have 2 big batteries the one 60v21a +14.4v ??a =72v (in second way disconnect at all the small battery)
Don't tell me to make one 60v 42a it can feet in board!!
So 1st way: 3 batteries : two 60v parallel and one 4s (small 20a) series.
2nd way: 2 batteries : one 60v 21a and one 4s (big many amber) series.
In the end with so many batteries if i make a mistake (my store is flat) i brake down all the building....!!💥😁😂😂
Connecting 16s and 4s in series is time consuming and risky, but if you have enough electrical knowledge and experience, you can repack the battery. However, the principle is to connect the same cells in series. Even if the cells are not the same, it is better if the discharge amount or energy density is similar.
After that, paralleling two 20s batteries is no problem. However, you only need to be careful that the discharge amount of the BMS with the lower allowable current value will follow. Please calculate the BMS allowable current according to the controller capacity. The BMS of the input/output common terminal is capable of twice the allowable current instantaneously.
I don't understand exactly how you're trying to do it, but my comment contains all the methodology.
If you are not a battery pack expert, we recommend working with a professional battery company. You will experience fireworks when short. Eyebrows may disappear. Please wear safety glasses.
@@daynight7983 I'm not a professional, but I buy a small spot welder 80€, an imax B6 charger 30€ and all the changes i have made to my batteries (bigger BMS, 2s,3s and now 4s batteries), i have made them alone!
Thanks for the advices my friend!!🙏
쉽게 말하면 앞에 있는 발은 30% 뒤에 있는 발은 70% ??
과방턱을 넘는 순간만 뒤발로만 지지한다는 느낌이죠.
거의 앞발은 0%에 가까운 의미입니다.^^
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As I am Yura, it is difficult for me to help with purchasing.
It would be better to inquire at the head office to see if overseas individual purchases are possible.
There is a contact information in the description box at the bottom of the video.