The Rise and Fall of FNAF Plus
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
- In this video, we talk about FNAF Plus... from its announcement all the way up to the recent Phisnom controversy.
Phisnom Response
• My Former* Situation
Fanmade FNAF Plus Video Essay
• The Mystery of Fake FN...
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00:00 intro
00:46 fnaf plus
03:02 lack of activity
04:31 controversy
07:26 outro
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Just want to say, phil legit has confirmed that he wasnt removed from the fanverse, he wasnt fired, he willingly stepped down.
Yeah I have seen basically everybody go with the story of "He was fired". Although it was never confirmed either way, it was implied to be a mutual thing between Phil and Scott, Phil wanting to leave and Scott having to do something about controversy
but still he is such a narcissistic idiot that he deserves everything that happens to him
Where did he confirm this?
@@recminecraft3235 In his latest video
@@recminecraft3235 the apology video he made ^^
Emil Macko is the smartest developer because he says nothing. No opinions, no controversial comments and no annoying "fans" that could ruin your career in seconds, just silence. He's just working on his games.
Well he did commit those murders in 1987, but we ignore that fact.
FR, Emil Macko just be out there living his best life. Wouldn't be surprised if at this point he's just cut contact with all the other devs to preserve his sanity. (Which I really hope he did)
Are we gonna ignore how he killed those 5 kids in Chuck E Cheese and yiffed the fox? Truly an Emil Macko moment
@@Braint-lr6uf Excuse me, *W H A T* ?
and same for flumpty’s dev (completely forgot his name) even if he’s not making anything FNAF related he was always a legend
for anyone who’s still wondering phisnom called the ruin dlc boring, people got mad at him including a person named alex. Fans of phisnom then attacked alex sending death threats and gore videos which phisnom responded with more jokes and sarcasm which caused him to get cancelled and phisnom later apologized.
You forgot that he didn't WANT to play it and his fans whined and cried about it until he frustratedly decided to play it to shut them up.
Exact same situation as the Five Nights At Candy's 2 game ("I don't like it it's boring" "PLAY IT AGAIN" "okay. .... IT FUCKING SUCKS AND EMIL MACKO SUCKS")
Dude needed to learn to tell his fans to fuck off instead of playing games he KNOWS he won't enjoy and will spend the whole stream getting bored out of his mind and distracted from and then saying the creators suck because he was bored obeying his fans.
I mean Phis definitely should've been able to say that it was boring, even as someone who enjoys Ruin I get that, there's probably a bit more they could've done with it if I'm honest. Idk who Alex is, and idk what they said, but that's a stupid reason for the community to send death threats and gore to someone, just for disagreeing with a creator. This is definitely a "both sides suck" situation, or at least it sounds like that.
@@neoqwertykinda sounds like the Markiplier Undertale situation. Mark said that he didn't really want to play it, fans kept asking him to, then he got a little bit of backlash for admitting he didn't really like UT/it wasn't for him. Creators really do need to know that they can say no to their fans.
Edit; after learning more about this situation, I don't think the Mark UT scenario and the Phis Ruin situation are anywhere near comparable. I want to keep this comment here to point out how major creator backlash about video game opinions isn't a good thing to do, but the two scenarios aren't that similar aside from the basics. Mark never did anything to this degree, and Phis kind of clearly fucked up. Have a good day, legends ✨
@@dataexpunged93N15the least he admitted the game wasn't for him. Phisnom trashed the game and threw dirt on people's faces like everyone shouldn't enjoy it. Which is why many were pissed off even someone who hasn't seen gameplays of SB Ruin.
he wasnt cancelled
his boss fired him because he was fine with his fans sending gore videos and death threats to people for no good reason
still can't understand why they chose to purge the game despite the amount of time put into it. While don't take sides and I'm quite disappointed in Phisnom, I still don't understand why they decided to just can what could've been a very successful game from the FNaF franchise
I think it might be down to Scott's decision if he wants the game released or not. I think if he releases the game without Phil being credited, that would just make the whole situation even worse, plus it feels like Phil just truly wants to distance himself from the community in every way, and releasing the game would make that really hard.
Maybe it was more of a juridical decision then a personal decision. Because of copyright or something with the contract. I'm SO upset with that decision tbh
@@thc_freebaserfuck Phil. He made a deal and it must be fulfilled. With him or without him.
@@luispedro1875 no, it's because Phisnom never wanted the spotlight or to be put on any sort of pedestal, so he just left because he hates the Fnaf community because let's face it, now it's a toxic Cesspool filled with a bunch of wannabe content creators that would rather add fuel to the fire publicly than try to stamp it out in private
@@ICollectStuff when Phisnom accept to be part of the project, it should be very clear that he is not any content creator, but a very important one. I think the decision to take him out very right, but not throw out the whole game
It’s a real shame that 3 years of work and hype went straight down the drain
3 YEARS OF WORK???
that shit looks like an edgy teenagers wet dream
I still have hope for the game, even if its filled with controversy
3 years for a game with no demo at this point, probably wouldn't have ever came out
Same I still have hope to
The game literally doesn't exist
Probably the most expected game to be cancelled in my opinion
Chompers is a close second
Popgoes is close too.
And lego
@@SwaggyG_2102bro i see you EVERYWHERE i swear to god
Really?
I feel like I should mention that Phisnom said back in 2020 upon joining the Fanverse that he WOULD be more professional going forward, but he quite literally just stayed the exact same. He already had a bad reputation going as far back as 2016, where his aggressive behavior that reached downright-bullying levels towards other fangame developers and artists led to him getting banned from numerous FNaF Discords; I witnessed him getting banned from the FNaF Subreddit Discord for being an absolute bastard towards a user who was experiencing a mental health crisis and then, when the mods timed him out, he took to a VC and proceeded to sling insults and nasty comments at them that led to them just banning him indefinitely. His actions back then hurt a lot of people I knew, with a few just completely losing their creative drive from how heavy-handed his comments were towards their work. One former FNaF Subreddit Discord mod even said that Phisnom's actions + the behavior of his loyal fans resulted in a *lot* of bannings until they isolated themselves to a server of their own.
Honestly, I'm not surprised this ended up happening. To be quite frank, Phisnom always felt like a ticking time bomb in a sense given his toxic "persona", higher-up status in the fandom as a Fanverse member (and representative of the series to a degree), and his complete lack in interest in FNaF to the point of being aggressive towards the franchise constantly to the point of being a dick towards Dawko for making FNaF videos back in 2019 (and lately seemingly focusing more on being a streamer than actually working on the game). You can make the argument that Phisnom shouldn't have to be responsible for the actions of his fans, but at the same time him joking about the situation and not saying anything until another developer called him out on it definitely showed that he had the potential to be a really big problem going forward and he hadn't improved at all (apparently Scott had told him once before to chill the fuck out so it seems like this was his last chance).
As for why the game got taken down well, Phisnom was solo-developing Plus and was using Gamemaker Studio IIRC, which is an engine that only two Fanverse members (both of whom are now no longer involved with it) used and is an entirely separate beast from Clickteam so no way would they be much help there. From the minute Phisnom got fired/quit, FNaF Plus was doomed honestly.
Who tf has a mental breakdown over discord, if it was real, I feel bad, but acting like that online is a one way trip to being called an attention seeker, literally anyone but close friends will call you out sometimes.
@@thecreativeducky5781 IIRC, they were in a really bad family situation (think their parents either didn't really believe in therapy or didn't think their kid needed it) so we were trying to support them through a really bad time in their life and then Phisnom decided to show up and be an ass about it.
Then again I'm not shocked in hindsight, knowing that he apparently told one of my friends that their depression was just "teenage angst" instead of actually trying to be empathetic.
some people do genuinely have breakdowns over discord, i myself and a few friends have been stressed due to irl situations before and needed someone to talk to, even if they're complete strangers. not everyone online is faking it, yknow@@thecreativeducky5781
@@thecreativeducky5781 damn you seem like a godawful person man lmao
@@thecreativeducky5781 gives me 2012 era perez hilton vibes, just weird outing of oneself as being a vapid and shallow person on the internet, reminiscent of the [CONTROVERSIAL HUMOR] era of facebook
I saw a reply on twitter that I thought represented what Phil did wrong perfectly, with having an outwardly rude, unprofessional and almost eccentric outward personality you cannot and should not expect yourself to also represent a legitimate brand and project without eventually falling into conflict. Phil forgot that he represented an official part of the fnaf series and simply did not act appropriately for someone in that position
this
Has this fanverse brought ANYTHING beyond misery??? Sometimes, I wonder if Scott regrets making that announcement.
@@N.I.A23 one night at flumpty also candys 4 is in development
Best summation as to the situation tbh. Phil isn't a monster, but the lack of professionalism just doesn't fly in the situation of being part of this official and sponsored opportunity.
to be completly honest, i'm so glad phisnom is off the fanverse. if he wanted to keep putting up an asshole act and expect it to not backfire, then he should've probably dropped the act entirely or at LEAST not be as shitty and act like a damn professional for once
What sucks so much about this, this whole situation was entirely preventable. What’s even worse is that, nobody was the good guy in this situation. Phil didn’t treat this situation with the respect that was needed. But like Minaxa said, this wasn’t something that warranted Phil’s entire career being destroyed over. Phil didn’t deserve the amount of harassment he received. And, keep in mind, this all stemmed from him having a different opinion than the rest of the FNAF community. This whole thing is super shitty.
Really their biggest blunder was how they treated the part about that one dude getting threats and shock videos from his fans. Had he handled that specific issue with any actual professionalism/dropping the extremely abbrasive toxic personna at the start this probably wouldnt be an issue still being talked about honestly.
@buenosdias232 Yep, Phil's fans would have sent the gore and stuff anyway. They are free agents that Phil has no direct control over, Mister Metokur never apologized for the independent actions of his own fanbase and it worked amazingly for him, Phil apologizing for their actions was a mistake, a moment of weakness his detractors took advantage of, and destroyed him with.
@@masterhand9305 dude just brought up metokur as an example of anything good. genuinely embarassing
And all that for the freaking cancellation culture
That’s how the internet is, especially Twitter, having a different opinion labels you as a menace to society
I'm gonna add some context for those who don't use twitter (like myself):
Basically, Phisnom did a stream where he played through the new Ruin DLC for Security Breach, and finished it by claiming that is was big meh (as usual) and tweeted "well, that was boring" on Twitter. The problem was that Ruin was being more well received by the FNAF community compared to Security Breach, and seeing Phil say he doesn't like the game put the community in a stir. This resulted in some of his fans sending death threats and gory imagery to random users who liked the DLC (most of which were minors), basically scarring them mentally. Phil eventually made a tweet addressing these victims after they demanded a response from him, and all the tweet was was him basically not taking these threats seriously (even to the point of thinking that it's a big joke), and pinned a picture an emoji with its fingers touching each other along with the caption "can I have some death thweats pwease?" or something like that.
This caused mass outrage on twitter (along with making the death treats and gore worse), causing Phil to make another response which was basically the rickroll trick Kane Karter did during the Theft King drama. Unlike that drama, his move MASSIVELY backfired and added more fuel to the fire and eventually forced Phil to make a genuine apology on both his YT channel (the one shown here) and Twitter. Many people rightfully criticized Phil's handling of the situation (or lack thereof) and now he is banned from the FNAF + Steam discussions and the game itself is now pulled off Steam.
Honestly, everyone is in the wrong here.
EDIT: Corrected the part that said Phil's fans were the victims, they were actually the ones to send the death threats. Apologies for the misunderstanding.
Yeah what Phil did was wrong, and I'm glad that hes taking steps to better his mental health, but that Alex kid, he just saw it as an opportunity to be a clout chaser and is whining when people call them out for it
Thanks for the informations. 🤝
Phisnom's angsty internet bs caught up with him. Dude needs to learn to not take the pis s every once in a while.
Phil not caring much about threats and those idiots making death threats beacuse of a FUCKING METAL BEAR GAME
@@ICollectStuff Gore sent to minor is funni kek
Phisnom and Twitter Kids were equally responsible for their actions.
The situation was handled by Phisnom like how Micheal puts Evan's head in Fredbear thinking it's goofy. The irony is that the people who sent gore threats and pictures to the kid in order to defend FNAF PLUS are the sole reason for this entire incident, which resulted in FNAF PLUS being cancelled.
That was the problem
I'd say it's more how he handled the situation that made him loose his contract (FNaF+) instead of addressing it and stopping it, he was joking around it and messing with the drama, which led to it being way worse. Don't care how mentally ill or depressed you're in, memeing about it and messing arround when literally a kid is getting showned gore pics and all for just hating on your game isn't a proper way to act. Plus, acting like he was the victim all the time this happend, just shows how much of a PoS he was.
Phisnom created a persona that attracted all the kinds of toxic people who would send death threats over a remake of a ten year old kids PC game. That lies on him, in my eyes. If he were less insufferable and tried to cultivate positivity in his little sphere of influence, none of this would have happened.
Can I have some gore videos please?
@@gryhim2885the “kid” was 17.
Phisnom didn’t lose his contract, he stepped down willingly.
While I can definitely assume that FNAF+ won't be releasing due to Phil's wish to distance himself from the FNAF community at large, if it *DOES* release with Scott's blessing, they absolutely should keep him credited. It would be unfair to do anything else no matter how much you may not like him personally.
If it launches without Phisnom being the big name I am not buying it, it doesn't feel fair to me
@@lucassenandelopez6324 how would it feel unfair to you? He made this choice himself, so why not appreciate what he made even if he doesn't want his name on it anymore?
Though sadly it seems with contract torn to shreds and even a responsibility for him to not expunge any fnaf+ information anymore, I doubt he’s gonna be credited, and even worse I don’t think it will be properly finished because Phis was using his own personal studio to make the game, which ClickTeam(pressumably) will not be able to finish it with their own even if it has been designated to be picked up by them
@@megamonster3538because he did the work and he should get the credit unless he explicitly states that he doesn't want it. Just because you hate someone or dislike them doesn't mean that they don't see deserve credit, that's comparable to censorship
@@imfurrytrash6769 did not read when I said "his choice" or "he doesn't want his name on it" part? I was obviously working from the perspective it was his choice. Please read more carefully friend.
Just seeing Phisnom's attitude when streaming I knew this was only a matter of time. It's a shame because I was looking forward to this release. I was just hoping he'd blow up AFTER releasing FNAF+
To be fair, the fact he was streaming more instead of working on the game (kinda like Yanderedev), didn’t help either.
@@Dr.Oofers he was about to stop streaming for a couple of months to work on +
@@Dr.Ooferswhile I don't excuse his behavior I don't think that all he should is just focus solely on the game. He is still just a human being that need to relax every once in while plus with the fanverse initiative who gave him that flexibility.
@@Dr.Oofers Tbf, why should he develop a game for people who don't even like him? It makes sense he quit lmao, imagine if he did release it, it would just be shit on.
@@thecreativeducky5781 Fr just like Scott these people just really like to kill the owners of the community their in.
If I had a dollar for every time that an incredibly hyped fnaf fangame got canceled due to a controversy, I'd have two dollars.
It's not much, but it still happened more than once nevertheless.
Chomper's and FNaF Plus, man. This is unfair, but it is expected.
@@kinggalactix Don't forget Grizzly's!
@@DevelopingCity When Grizzly's was canned? I think you have your fangames mixed up.
@@aqua4548 ye lester announced it in the gamejolt page.
Grizzly's is not canned
FNAF and controversy is sadly an iconic duo at this point
Indeed. From Jonochrome to Theft King, it's synonymous with furries and 12 year olds.
@@RadicalMonarchi do feel bad for theft king
@@fuhlash How the fuck?
If that’s true, I’m putting a plastic bag over my head live.
@@RadicalMonarch whoa whoa whoa what happened with theft king?
edit: ok i looked it up and he apologized, people are acting like he did something horrible
Honestly, had Phisnom decided to tone down his "toxic" personality a bit and knew when to shut the fuck up, this situation probably would've never happened.
Sure, he's dealt with controversies in the past, but those were all relatively minor.
It was only when he decided to shit on Ruin did his personality come back to bite him in the ass.
Agreed
still both sides def did wrong. phil shouldnt have joked about people sending gore. people shoulnt have overreacted to phil calling ruin boring and people saying to call fnaf + boring. phil calling it boring wasnt the bad part of it.
so bro should have changed his entire personallity? This whole situation is bullshit. Bro built an amazing game and its ruined because of soft ass pussies.
I think everyone is in agreement.
While I’m not very knowledgeable about what happened. Based on what the video shows, I think having someone with a personality like that on a project like this is a recipe for disaster. Especially if they dismiss criticism. When your involved in a project like this, you need to be professional about it. Otherwise it could give the fanverse initiative a bad name.
It sucks that it got canceled, it was looking so good. Now I’m never going to see mark play it. Aw well, that’s life. We should take this experience and learn from it. Learn from Phisnoms mistake in how to not act like as someone involved in a project like this.
What? Why does shitting on Ruin warrant any backlash of this level, Fanverse Initiative member or not? It's a subjective opinion on an arguably mediocre game designed to satiate an audience of mostly children? I don't think the problem most people have with him is that, and it's weird people think so.
I heavily agree with what you had to say about the Phisnom drama. All parties should've reacted better when it was happening. I think Phil made a serious mistake, and people should've reacted better than just making it worse by bad mouthing everyone left and right. There should've been an actual conversation instead of all the drama that ensued. People were like "We won" When FNAF+ got cancelled, but in reality we all lost in a way.
And those people I have a deep resentment for!
Indeed, I did say I was disappointed with everyone involved as well, save for Alex, the kid.
It was like this for Scott Cawthon
i wouldn't consider replying with the notion of death threats and gore with sarcasm and jokes as 'a mistake.' phisnom is a grown adult alex was literally just a kid.
@@salted_sirenbro was like 17 idk how him being a "kid" matters at all. If he was 18 would it have been perfectly fine?? bringing up his age does absolutely nothing productive to the discussion once so ever.
I feel like this kind of ignores the fact that Plus since it's start was always filled with controversy as Phisnom even before Plus was not very liked in the community as a whole, and that only got worse when he publicly announced he wasn't a FNAF fan anymore, when people felt like he spent all his time streaming instead of making the game, and a load of other stuff. There is also other things about the game itself like how controversial the designs were and still are and other things. Plus getting cancelled was honestly only a matter of time with how much controversy Phisnom ended up creating in the community even if the exact reason might not be the best or whatever
I think this whole thing is just a convenient excuse to blow off developing the game. Disappointing and pissing people off seems to be the only way Phisnom gains any personal sense of control. It’s been a long-standing truth that he’ll stroke his own ego at anyone else’s expense.
you're saying this as if fnaf+ wasn't something a majority of the community looked forward to
besides a few users on twitter who don't like phil's generally pessimistic and cynical attitude, there really wasn't anyone out there wanting him gone before this "controversy" started
same thing applies to fnaf+, nobody wanted to the game to be cancelled before this
@@dogelord79 I don't know the numbers so maybe you're right about a majority looking forward to it, but I personally have rarely seen people actually excited for it and mostly have just seen people shitting on both it and Phil for the past 3 years.
@@AshleyOrange I was excited personally, I love it when animatronic games have different/more realistic designs. Just sucks I didn't find out it was canceled until now lol
@@pan_ghoul The FNAF+ designs are not something that an actual business would order in an attempt to appeal to a wider audience though. I would say these new designs were deliberately grotesque, in a way
He wasn't kicked out because of his opinions of the games. he was kicked out because his fans where sending death threats to someone who didn't agree with him, and he responded with blaintent sarcasm, and undermined the severity of those threats to that person. In doing so, it could very easily send a message that he's encouraging that behavior. That's why he got kicked out.
People say he left himself after all of it went down
he didn't get kicked out, he left, voluntarily,
as clarified in his recent response,
nobody forced him to leave, and nobody would really have the right to,
phisnom has no real way of preventing something like that from happening, he definitely could have responded way better than he initially did, but he actually did try telling his fans off after he realized how big of a mistake he made responding to it in such a careless way
and the minor that got sent that stuff, they acted in an even less respectable manner, i know they're underage, but that doesn't excuse them of having no common decency or knowledge, they shouldn't even BE on twitter in the first place if they act like this
phisnom has also made it VERY clear he doesn't want minors interacting with his social media
@@dogelord79 You do realize that when someone voluntarily leaves after a scandal. It's because they were told to quit, or be fired, and look even worse, right? It is a very comman thing in any industry. Even though legally he left on his own. unofficial they told him to get out.
@@kratkartan1486 fnaf fans like you are straight brain dead and are the main reason why scott left. I'm glad now fnaf plus isn't out because people like you take fnaf franchise for granted.
I really hate how his response was basically “I told you guys not to put me on a pedestal” but like willingly disregards the fact that he’s a face of the fnaf fanverse and is inherently put on a pedestal whether he likes it or not.
FNaF fan games that are hype always end up cancelled.
No they don't
@@MorganSaph OK I seriously cannot think of one off the top of my head that isn’t Candy’s or Popgoes or Flumpty’s
@@youreverydayhellknight4257 there are dozens of fnaf fan games that haven't gotten cancelled. Perhaps you mean specifically the Fanverse games?
@@MorganSaph I think so I haven’t been in the five nights at Freddy’s loop lately
@@youreverydayhellknight4257Here's an OG one: Sinister turmoil. That game was going to be so hype especially with multiplayer
In all honesty, I’m not mad at Phis for not liking Ruin, but I’m mad that he had every opportunity to de-escalate the problem, but ended up causing his own downfall. I doubt he’s “removed” from the fanverse, because Jonochrome hasn’t been around after what he did, and there hasn’t been anything about him being removed.
Hell, even Scott hasn’t said anything about it. Scott sees the good in people, and no one is perfect. And it’s not like he or any of us knew about their problems until after they got into the fanverse.
Edit: I'm not defending Jonochrome. There's no doubt he deserved the backlash.
Overall, Phis pulled a TheftKing, but I do think after some time, he can recover from this. Even though he could (hey word is could) change, but the damage will be permanent. I do hope FNAF plus does get released, because he would have wasted all that time making a game for nothing.
I'm more mad that he didn't just tell the people crying and bothering him to play Ruin when he didn't WANT to play it because he thought it'd be boring, to go buy him a tin of elbow grease and leave him the heck alone, avoiding the whole problem when he ALREADY got himself in trouble before getting bored and lashing out at Emil Macko over replaying Five Nights At Candy's 2 "because the fans want it".
He needs to realize that his fans can go eat crow if they want something he doesn't because he's the one driving the bus and it's his right to turn the whole thing around and go home instead of doing something he knows he won't enjoy at all.
Jonochrome basically finished his game at the time the controversy took place so he was alredy done with the project.
He did finish the games, but he never got them ported to Steam.
I think he left himself. I forgot if it's in the apology vid he made
you made the correct guess
phil did in fact leave voluntarily, as he has clarified in his response video
Indie dev with a superiority complex runs themselves out of the community entirely on their own. A tale as old as time.
“One slip up” = superiority complex
Get a grip dude
I mean, he did choose to make jokes over someone being sent DEATH THREATS and GORE VIDEOS by fans, who, by the way, was a minor, instead of immediately dropping the persona he has and handling the situation, you know, like an adult.
Yeah it things were handle poorly as he thought by making light of situation and trying to redirect some of the hate to him didn't work so well.
In the vid Phisnom released over the situation, he goes over some explanations as to why he acted the way he did (dealing with a stalker etc.) which does give some clarity. Still doesn't justify his actions though.
Why are there minors on Twitter? Not that adults should be on Twitter but like half the dramas I here about today involve some kid being a dick to a creator and then the creators audience being a dick to the kid who immediately cries about being a minor. Like ok? Why are you even here and talking all of this shit if you’re too young to be here? Go do your homework or something Twitter brain rot is the last thing the next generation needs fr.
A 17yrs can't stand gore?
@@atanaZion oh no, there are people who don't like gore. How absurd a concept.
Even before the controversy I've always found it weird how Phisnom who basically is mentality check out of the series at this point is remaking a game in said series
Is it too crazy to think that the reason why the sudden silence in updates for plus is because of his lack of interest in the series
Seriously this was so avoidable if he just took the internet personality glasses for 5 minutes
Phil doesnt hate fnaf as a whole ffs what he hates is what fnaf has become,he hates MODERN FNAF NOT OLD FNAF
@@motivatedman9730 that doesn’t change a lack of interest damaging motivation on a game, if you dont like a game series anymore… making a game for that series or talking about it is gonna be hard.
@@MahNamJeff on one hand yes, but I feel like the general idea with Fnaf plus was to make it genuinely scary again right? That seems like the kinda thing Phis would definitely have been interested in doing
@@motivatedman9730 The Mimic itself has more effort put into it than almost anything in old fnaf. Old fnaf was a pile of ideas thrown at the wall with fanons trying to reconstruct it into some terrible un-Christian revenge story.
@@justice8718 uhh, no it didn't? lol
You know it’s really sad on what truly has happened to FNAF Plus. There was a moment where it was the most hyped FNAF fan game of all time but now after what happened is now officially lost media. Despite Phisnom’s statement on Ruin and all the drama that has happened leading to possibly the cancellation, you still got to admit that FNAF Plus was still an amazing idea. While there have been many FNAF 1 remakes before, FNAF Plus truly felt like a gift that FNAF community had never seen before.
Being part of the fnaf community since fnaf 1 when it comes to the actual fans they usually suck and are mostly brain-dead kids most of the time with horrible takes.
I guess
Why does this keep happening, can’t this god forsaken community go 1 month without a developer either doing/saying something stupid or being revealed as a horrible person. It’s sad that Tyler, the Guy who created the return to freedys series, is possibly the least controversial person in this community.
Jesus Christ you're right. In comparison Tyler looks like a normal person.
I think it's emil macko thats the least uncontroversial guy in the fnaf community cuz I never heard of any beef from him
@@marri0nz You could say the other guy using his stuff to make a fake FNAF 3 is some sort of event, but he wasn't involved in it directly
@@EdyAlbertoMSGT3 You're taking about Tyler, the person mentioned in the comments right above you, and while he is certainly a character and a half, I don't remember him being involved in any controversies that actually brought harm to people, at least in the fnaf community.
When you put a clown behild a project (phis), it is only a matter of time that it turns it into a circus.
True
But what happens when the clown gets canceled for being an asshole?
@@StupidFurryFemboyPilot He finds out after fucking around ofc.
@@StupidFurryFemboyPilotYou get bootleg Joker.
"But did he really need to lose his legacy over that mistake?" Yeah, man. Also, knowing how little he cares about FNAF, I doubt he'd consider this "his legacy." Not caring about other people is a bigger deal than a remake of a game that could never surpass the enjoyment people had with the original anyway.
yup and this is the reason why scott left because of brain-dead people with horrible takes
It’s you people that are the reason the fnaf community is so utterly garbage nowadays.
You genuinely think that 3+ years of development deserved to go down the drain all because someone made one slip up.
What a joke.
it shouldn’t be a career ruining thing, but it should be a lesson for Phil that he’s not just some dude on the internet. he’s making one of the most anticipated FNAF fan games so people will be watching him closely.
fnaf fans like you are straight brain dead and are the main reason why scott left. I'm glad now fnaf plus isn't out because people like you take fnaf franchise for granted.
Also a lesson to him to never have an opinion on a FNAF game ever again since the situation was caused by people not being able to respect that. Not saying that what Phil did in response was okay but still.
@@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 from what other people said, the problem was his response to the death threats, so that could've been avoided in that point of time
The saddest thing is that it was really easy to avoid
He just needed to not be toxic :/
Apparently he's working on himself, so it's at least that
He just had a opinion on a game, if everyone left him alone, nothing woulda happened.
@@orang9134 He went to twitter, one of the most controversy-filled social medias ever, and tweeted out 'well that was boring'. Look, i agree, we all have different opinions, but he legitimately has not one good thing to say about ruin, while everyone else has atleast 1 thing to say. The graphics are slightly better would have been atleast something positive he could have said.
@@ukaszwalczak1154 Naw he can say what he wants, it's their fault for throwing a hissy fit over it.
@orang9134 and others can say what they want about his shitty opinions lol. You know damn well he said it's boring because "LULZ I'm SO CONTROVERSIAL!!11!!!!"
@@Nutz_Deez How about this? Maybe because the game was ass? Did you not consider that as a possible outcome? Cheap shitty jumpscares with non-scary looking models, yeah great game man.
Why would I watch a video about what happened when the video leaves out the context of why it happened, it completely defeats the purpose.
Weird for a video to give you homework for the most central part of the story lol
when a guy that has a toxic persona gets cancelled for said toxic persona
:O
Five Nights at Freddy's plus isn't Phil's Legacy. His legacy is being known as a troll who couldn't get out of his own way for professional purposes and lost one of the biggest opportunities of his life
Y’know, TheftKing may be a whiny man child, but ironically, the whole fanverse being dead thing has sort of came back in a non click bait way.
also phil wasnt removed from the fanverse, he terminated his contract himself.
Coward running away from the community that made him in the first place.
Sad to see a product i was genuinely hyped for be cancelled :(
Don’t worry we got peak coming JOC REMAKE 🎉🎉
RIP Fanfs+ Sebbyzz. In a seriousness though, it’s sucks that this games canceled. I was/am excited for _all_ the upcoming fan-verse games, however this one was about 2nd, with Evergreen in first.
Also to quote myself from Sproo’s livestream: *_”We’ve come to ruin your day.”_*
@@F_Slush That's not gonna help anything you dumby, even we got any peak from other FNAF fangames it still doesn't help the fact FNAF + are cancelled. But I hope this gonna release in another platform it's really waste to see this game got cancelled even in 3 years development!
The fact that He finished the Game months ago but didnt Release it Out of spite cuz people asked for a Release date.
Also in *MY* opinion, Fnaf + felt forced with the "scary" Factor, thats why I think the OGs are unbeatable
“Forced scary” is the dumbest fucking thing I’ve ever heard.
People who say that probably haven’t touched a horror game outside of fnaf before
What I hate is that the same thing happened again where people were throwing the game under the bus JUST because of the creator.
tbf lots of people didnt like the designes before all this, since thwy wherent very subtly scary like scotts designes
yup and this is the reason why scott left because of brain-dead people with horrible takes
I really hope that FNaF+ does end up getting a new developer or Phisnom is given a second chance, this was the most hyped I have ever been for a FNaF game and to see it just gone makes me upset. Twitter sucks
Twitter and social media like that shouldn't exist at all, there should be a regulations on this platform apps.
From what I heard, it was Phisnom's decision to step down from the project, so I guess he doesn't want a second chance
Both Phil and Twitter suck. Phil just basically told the fans that got sent death threats and gore images to "not pay attention to that, it's just stupid trolling" and he stole Kane's rick roll apology from the Thief king controversy.
Well it is gone from Steam store so this confirms that FNAF plus is cancelled.
@@vb1125 Yea I made this comment before seeing Phil's video, I realize that now that it was in his best interest to step down and I agree with his decision
With all of this, I respect Emil and IvanG for not getting into any controversies and just making their games, being silent and putting in nothing but effort. Respect ✊
I hope we get the official release but it’s feels unlikely
I hope Phil is doing well despite him being in the wrong with the lack of his responsibility
Whether you think Phil’s response video was good or not, it’s up to you to decide
Even if it gets released it wont be the same
it's sad and frustrating to see how avoidable this entire situation was
Everyone has something to learn from situations like this. Though I myself never liked/respected Phisnom or FNAF+, I can still get why he ended up the way he did. While the fanverse may be FAR from a good state and it's history even less so; We still have Nikson, Emil, and Kane working on great looking games. As well as none fanverse related fangames like Casa 2.0, Marry's 2, DORMITABIS remake, RatRace, The rat cave, and so many more. To think the community is completely fucked is just... completely incorrect.
Why would someone remake dormitabis
Ever heard of dormitabis remastered ? Nicchi even is not more the owner, its ownetrick, oh but garvey, oh but nicchi, come on one night flumpty 3 with that theory should never be real, fnaf community is hypocrite as my mouth
@@arnerippey3677 remake the game so that it isn't a pedophilic necro fantasy
@@Gregsmann2 ok
I just wanna note: Phisnom personally stepped out of development for FNaF Plus, not fired, and I don’t think the game was announced to be cancelled
In fact, from what I know, devopment was in its final stages, so I wouldn’t make much sense if it was cancelled
Game was kicked from steam and fanverse. Still not cancelled?)
The game doesn't appear on the steam store so it more likely canceled.
Bro has been working 3 years on a fnaf 1 remake and it isnt out yet ? 💀
@@millenial8212 Twitter cancelled game . Never out
@@millenial8212phil didnt work on the game 24/7 dude
I still can't believe Phisnom's a college grad yet acts like a middle schooler. I guess TheftKing isn't the only manchild in the FNAF community.
Are you stupid?
Yup, and this is why Scott left because of brain-dead people who do cancel culture. I'm glad the fans don't get to play fnaf plus because they honestly don't deserve the fnaf franchise.
I was so hyped for it, it was so awesome looking and I was genuinely excited for an indie game for the first time ever…
Even in general, I rarely get hyped for games. Elden Ring, Ark Survival Ascended, Pokémon Legends Arceus, and Starfield are the only games I actually got excited about, and also FNAF+
you were never excited for an indie game before?! like don't get me wrong fnaf plus looked great but there's soooo many great ones out there
Honestly, phisnom had the talent to make a great fnaf remake, but he never had the professional attitude that required, all he had to do was just work on the game and keep his nose to the grindstone but nah he went and persistently put his own personality and persona above just doing your job as a game developer representing a huge franchise, if he would've just shut up and stopped provoking shit on Twitter he'd have been able to just make the game and move on regardless of his views on the franchise but nope, to the point where he made jokes about delaying the game because people had the audacity to ask "how's fnaf plus going" or "when's fnaf plus coming out?" That to this day people aren't sure if they were jokes at all, phisnom was unprofessional from day one and this kinda stupid drama was inevitable because of that and a potentially great game was lost because he couldn't put his work first and not be an asshole for five minutes
It died so fast that I didn't even know it had a steam or twitter
honestly, are we even sure the game was remotely completed? we only ever got screenshots/vague clips of the office, & every time people asked for an update phisnom got squeamish and avoided answering. that doesn’t sound like a near-completion game to me tbh
It honestly feels like they were waiting for an excuse to cancel FNAF Plus.
Considering how many saw how frequent Phisnom streamed instead of supposedly working on the game… probably, yeah.
@@Dr.Oofers So Phisnom was essentially Yandev?
@@wakkaseta8351 He certainly has enough controversy and annoying personality
@@wakkaseta8351he is as annoying
@@wakkaseta8351 Dang, that's a perfect comparison.
"It seemed like FNAF Plus was just about ready to be released into the world" followed by "358 days later" perfectly sums up this game's development
It's unfortunately FNaF+ was canceled but the fact that Phisnom, was suffering from personal problems at the moment of and before starting FNaF+ development, is slightly more important. Phisnom himself stated he didn't really care for this game.
I hope he recovers, learns from his mistakes and does stuff, that he actually cares about, rather than what broader FNaF community cares about.
Meh.
We all have personal problems. I understand not having the same passion for a project as when you first started to it but at the end of the day he made a commitment to a community. It doesn’t matter at this point if he likes that community or not. Anyone with a little integrity would suck it up and fulfill his or her promises. If Phisnom spent less time putting out ego on Twitter, he could have finished the game a year ago and washed his hands of any further obligation while also gaining the acclaim of FNAF fans. I fail to see how stroking his own short term pride again and again at the expense of his reputation has ended up better for him.
@@thetman0068 You take these games for granted. I don't remember much anymore but I think he said he kinda used streams for coping. This cancelation was very much passion AND mental health step in right direction.
The only ones who need to suck it up are the people who are mad about it. One's health is more important than commitment about thing they no longer care about.
@@Caffeinepirate-oc2hc That’s not how the world works, pal. When you make an obligation to a company and a community, you either fulfill that obligation, or find an APPROPRIATE way to pass the buck onto the next guy. This drama is not the appropriate way to handle not wanting to finish the game you promised.
@@thetman0068 Gee its almost like Phil didn't spend every waking moment of his life on something because that would drive anyone insane and cause burn out
I really hope that the minor who was sent all that disgusting stuff by Phisnom’s fans is doing alright and has a support group. Being personally targeted by an entire fanbase over a single opinion is one of the worst things that can happen to a person online.
Mr minor was fine went on to fish for attention everywhere right after
I just find it weird that they even saw that shit, like, you're a minor on the internet, there's no reason you should be accepting messages from people who (I assume) are complete strangers, that's just a bad idea especially if you disagreed publicly with someone and posted what's clearly considered to be a hot take
@@HyperviaI?
@@HyperviaI a minot acted immaturely, big news. It's still wrong for them to have received shit like that
@@nathanflinchum1153 Not to mention that child was interacting with
1. A twitter account
2. Phisnom himself
3. He has "18" in his username, his bio tells minors to go away and is clearly not fond of children being within his fanbase.
I do agree that it is everyone's fault here, even the victim. Although I am not supporting what they did because sending gore to people for an opinion is fucked up and you should get off the internet forever or something as such for that.
bro was beefing online instead of releasing the game 🙏💀 But on a serious note, knowing that after the trailer was released, there were only minor things left as stated right after the trailer. He could have either cut corners or finish it and release it, before waiting a year just to shittalk on twitter 😭
minaxa, my dude. i REALLY think you should've at least talked SOMEWHAT about what happened. people are going to get the wrong idea and think phisnom is this wholly blameless entity when he did contribute to his own demise. he should've just. denounced the death threats and gore people were sending to someone who dared make a joke about FNAF+'s development. instead of acting like a damn manchild about it and only now realizing he fucked up badly.
also like the others said: he didn't get kicked from fanverse. he stepped down willingly.
Phisnom really did f#$! around and found out
I was wondering what happened bc everyone just stopped talking about it! Thank you for the informative video!
"Twitter drama kinda sucks" 🤓
Joking about a minor being sent gore sucks too broski.
true but people bring that up because the entire situation started because people were mad he said ruin was boring, it’s horrible all around.
@@ranchustars3050 I mean it still happened, it started one way but usually the end result is what matters in the end, and the end result was a long cooking one.
@@Zero001LP yeah i just felt like mentioning that’s why people mention twitter drama being bad, he really should have just shut up and apologized about his fans sending gore.
@@ranchustars3050 but instead he decided to Rick roll folks.
gonna say a hot take and say that i believe fnaf plus died a while ago and the situation with phil was only the final, albeit pretty large nail in the coffin
Welp, at least we've still got Evergreen and FNaC4
Don’t jinx it bro…
Also Joy of Creation
Those are still happening? Really?
The saddest part about this is... Theft King's point is only being proven at this point. The fanverse *is* falling apart. Sure, he was and probably still is a man brat and told Theft King to burn, but really...
Our enemy is the one who is right, for the last time, *We are proving his point.*
The community definitely over reacted on the controversy
Yeah people shouldn't be picking up torches and pitchforks and heading Phisnom's way, but people love to hop on bandwagons like that, mob mentality and all. I agree what Phil did was awful but there have been plenty of content creators who have bounced back from far worse, and I truly do think the pressure was starting to get to him, and he was already someone who did not care what people thought of him, even to his detriment, as we now have seen.
As always...
It’s jonochrome all over again
it wasnt an over-reaction. the most crucial information was left out of literally most of the video's covering this topic. a person on twitter made an innocent joke about phil not liking ruin. his fans then proceeded to harass this user who was a minor, and sent gore and death threats. phil instead of taking this situation seriously made fun of the situation, then sent an "apology video" which was a rick roll. this was the real reason he was removed.
You ever been sent gore videos? Does that make you happy? If a kid you knew, a sibling or a friend's sibling, got sent death threats and dead bodies online, would you be happy? I wouldn't be happy. I'd be pretty pissed.
In my opinion I believe it was right to remove Phisnom from the project, but not necessarily as a punishment. He's an extremely unprofessional individual and brings bad rep to the fanverse initiative therefore he shouldn't be allowed to be involved in it. The fanverse would've been 10x better if incompetent people like Phil weren't allowed near it.
To me he was competent, just too blunt for the average / casual person and seen so much bullshit over the years that he didn’t take it seriously till it was too late and the damage was done. Scott brought him on in the first place because he was good at making a game, and had the right thoughts going on making a horror game, well a horror. To me he seemed like an interesting individual to be part of something like the fanverse.
I just hope Phil and that other guy that saw all that shit from his fans recover and get back on their feet.
@@irkenpony17 I don't believe he's an incompetent developer, quite the contrary. However, he's an incompetent community manager. He should've just stayed quiet, stayed low and worked on the game. Instead, he felt the need to build this "Haha, I'm so toxic and don't care about anything, isn't that funny?" persona.
I think I speak for almost everyone when I say that FNAF Plus was the HEADLINER for the Fanverse Initiative. I grow more and more upset and disappointed with everyone in the fanverse initiative day by day. Imagine all being a part of something special. A developer of an iconic game series that you yourself made fanworks of is giving you money to realize your vision. And yet for some reason every is spiteful and childish towards one another and can't figure out how to act like decent fucking people. All the hype for nothing.
the game being removed is a bit too far, but to be fair phisnom did joke around with something that shouldn't be joked about.
Yup, and this is why Scott left because of brain-dead people who do cancel culture. I'm glad the fans don't get to play fnaf plus because they honestly don't deserve the fnaf franchise.
Fnaf plus was a game made out of spite and I’m honestly glad to see it gone
Idk I feel like if it came out we would just have even more infighting about the current direction of the series and how Scott wants to make more sci-fi story based content than horror clickgame with the scary bear
i dont understand why make a short essay style video about the "rise and fall" and then choose to not include the details on why the developer was in controversy. i clicked on the video to be informed because im not around fnaf news alot so this just feels lazy. this is quite literally the equivalent of that one twitter meme where someone asks for context and the author responds with "dude you dont want to know oh the horror".
as someone who worked with phil to bring art to his channel, it saddens me greatly to see his project go down the drain because of a situation he handled poorly (as if we're not allowed to make mistakes anymore). people say that phil is "toxic" and an overall asshole, but that's just how much viewers can say when they don't talk to people behind the scenes. phil has never been "toxic", mean, or offensive to me at all when speaking with him, he's probably the sweetest person i've worked with.
he stayed up late with me to search for a new pc because he found out about my shitty laptop, and almost BOUGHT that pc even though it'd land him in a low financial spot (i'm thankful that he didn't and i bought it myself later on), when i worked hard on a commission for his channel; he always told me how good i did and that the finished product was PERFECT each time, he never made me feel as if i could've done better or that the finished piece was just "okay". he's the reason why i have any sort of following or support, he's always been so kind to me and others who have worked with him. i'm not his friend at all, i don't know phil like that, but i can say that he's not "just an asshole".
it's so easy to label someone as toxic when you're on the outside looking in.
I have a black friend therefore I'm not racist; I'm not toxic to one person therefore I'm not toxic. Good logic
It’s not that we misunderstood him. He put that image out there for himself. His profile picture/character is a person covered in toxic waste, after all, and his overall manner was very toxic and edgy. I believe you in that he’s a good person, that side of him is there, but he did make a mistake, and the image he made for himself didn’t help.
I’m sorry, seeing a friend get shamed by an entire community can’t be easy, but he made jokes about people, getting sent traumatizing shit and then tried to pull a “Kane Carter rickroll moment” as a joke as if everyone wasn’t against him. He’s an asshole, and toxic.
@@solairedude7119 he's not toxic to a lot of people, actually, multiple people that i know (including friends), kind of a bad argument there (also way to bring race into this for no reason? weird and bad analogy)
@@MrBahema yes, i understand that he made a mistake (i've never denied that), and that his public image and character is "being toxic", but there's a huge difference between the character you put out publicly; and who that person really is. people saying that phil is "just a toxic asshole" couldn't be more wrong and it irritates the hell out of me.
I was SO excited for FNAF Plus, really sucks that what could of been the best FNAF Fan Game ended like that
also 4:24 me??? thxsm
Throwing in my two cents here over a month late: he probably shouldn’t have been part of the fanverse in the first place. He’s always had a negative reputation, and having someone who actively and openly dislikes the franchise representing part of it isn’t a good look. It isn’t that hard to tell people to chill, and it’s literally all he had to do to not screw himself over. Obviously the people sending threats and gore wouldn’t have stopped, but it would at least have given the impression that he tried to stop the harassment.
I doubt he was even seriously working on FNAF Plus much anyway, considering how often he streamed. This whole situation is his fault and he’s facing the consequences. This isn’t “cancel culture”, this is someone who fucked up in a callous way and got reprimanded for it. I hope Fnaf plus still releases with or without his name on it, but I’m not hopeful.
I have to be honest, I don’t even care about plus anymore. I was a regular on Phil’s streams for a while, even donating a lot of money, but after watching him for so long I eventually realized that FNaF Plus was a project made out of spite. Phil wanted to make something scarier, more intense, and “better” than FNaF 1, not something that he actually cared about. If he really cared about plus, he wouldn’t have stepped down.
He said that wanted make sb but better, looks like that sb still better because well........ sb was not cancelled LOL
The video should’ve been called the “the Fall of Fnaf Plus” because there was no “rise”, as soon as this game popped up on a horizon there wasn’t a single good thing about it or its creator.
Ur literally the only one who thinks that
Actually there was a lot of hype for it, and it’s one of the only games from the initiative that people really wanted to see, especially with the VHS series it had and the teasers / designs / sneak peeks / ect.
This was the one outcome of this controversial debacle that I wasn't looking forward to. I was genuinely looking forward to this game, but of course, Phisnom had to fuck it up for everyone else.
Yup, I agree. He should have made a sincere apology to save his ass, but nope, he had to add a rickroll video, and keep up his online personality
@@Leech-3i genuenely cannot understand why he didn't just condemn his fans sending the death threats and gore, like, it is so insane to me to take it jokingly
This is why empathy is important. When you soften up a little bit and say “whoa, take it easy” you typically don’t lose all of your accrued respect. Screw legacy; he showed who he is, whether he apologized or not. He deserves to be left behind for a bit and learn how to treat people better.
Agreed. Respect for other people is way more important than a video game. The internet is already awful, people with an audience need to act with some level of empathy or this stuff happens to innocent people.
His biggest mistake is not lowered his toxicity. If he just tell his fans to not death threat a minor or even properly apologise to him, none of this would happen.
As a bully victim who still traumatised since more them a decade ago, i'm sorry i have to side with Alex. People who defend Phisnom don't know what is like to be a bully victim.
If you do research the kid shouldn't have Twitter in the first place and brought it to himself. Sorry that you were bullied but you are wrong in this situation the reason why the game got canceled is because the fnaf community is brain-dead and believes in cancel culture because they're snowflakes. This is why Scott left too and honestly these days I wish Thanos came in and took away the half population on planet Earth who believe in cancel culture and dumb takes.
I get not liking security breach and ruin, some of us do some doesn't, what I don't get is being yourself a developer of this franshise (who made fun of the fanbase more than once with his comments about letting the game sit on a shelf), why shit on the other developers, even more so when you are an official part of the franshise, with contractual obligations and with some responsibility on your shoulders.
Overall I don't know if i'd dislike Phisnom as a person since all I know about him are his multiple episodes of toxicity, but it seems wild to me that he still has a fanbase.
well I'm kinda sad FNAF+ is kind of gone. But I am now looking forward to Nikson's TJOC the ignited collection! I saw a gameplay preview of it and it was simply amazing. If you guys are interested, a demo is comjng by the end of this year! (sorry for going off topic)
*my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined*
Phil's always talked shit, and now he finally got hit. Hard.
Phisnom is an immature person who shouldn't have been handling any sort of pr. If any representative of a company did what he did, they would get fired instantly. Although the game should definetly still come out
I can tell you've never worked in an organization, let alone tech. Go next.
@@sensu31 lol ok
@@sensu31 know what now I'm genuinely curious about how what I said was wrong. Explain
wait... my le actions have le conquences?!? - Philip Morg 2023
We should ban fangame creators from all social medias so this shit doesn't happen again
But how would they announce the release?
@@Cubeytheawesome Pure stroke of luck.
I just hope some other dev will come in and just finish off the game or I could see Scott wanting to just finish it I mean hopefully someone will
after reading the comments and getting some explanation, it baffles me that people just... have their dms open and stuff, like whatever happened with the people that were sent gore, not saying they deserved to see it or anything, but why would they even open a message from people who (to my knowledge) are complete strangers to them? just seems weird idk
not to mention, they're a minor on twitter, watching phisnom, which is an issue for multiple reasons
and there's no doubt they knew exactly what would happen if they insulted fnaf+ but did it anyways
and then proceeded to villainize phisnom
i know they're a minor, but good god, have some common decency and sense
@@dogelord79not everyone knows fnaf+ fans are all 15 year olds edgelords
fnaf community cant go one day without burning in controversy
No shit, it's fnaf. It's filled with a bunch of children who complain about everything.
@@StupidFurryFemboyPilot Except that the original children who first got into the series should've grown up by now and controversies like this shouldn't happen as often as they do
Major fnaf community member try not to have controversy challenge (impossible)
I do have a feeling FNaF Plus will release eventually. Wether officially or it gets leaked. If all the game really needed was music then I can imagine it being passed off to someone new and released. As well we know the game is playable as other fanverse developers already have it on their steam. In summary, they have spent way too much time and money to not release this game or put out an official announcement because too my knowledge the only things that have happened are Phisnom saying he stepped down and the store page getting privated. I would expect either a statement from Scott/whoever runs fanverse saying it is no longer being developed or seeing that maybe one of the other fanverse developers finishing it after they finish their own games.
Phisnom literally said it was done 3 months ago.
@@Leech-3 If that is the case then that really just tells me that they probably aren’t scrapping the game. And if they are, I’ve learned that FNaF fans are insane enough to leak it.
So many games laid bare but there is a way each of them can return.
For Flumpty and Grizzly's, the creators must hand to copyright over to another.
For Jrs, EatM and Chompers, we must convince Scott to give them another chance and that they're initial founders are no longer involved.
For plus, we need to wait and see.
Honestly I think Jon should make flumpty public domain. Also, what the fuck happened to grizzly’s?
@@Cubeytheawesome It takes guts to say what happened, but what I will say is he said some really bad things. Because of that, Grizzly's Roblox, the update, and the sequel are all going to be canned. The only hope, is for someone to dig up the most complete builds for each.
I love when the most anticipated projects get canceled, delayed, or exposed. 😃
Yup, and this is why Scott left because of brain-dead people who do cancel culture. I'm glad the fans don't get to play fnaf plus because they honestly don't deserve the fnaf franchise.
its the fans fault bro, im so mad.
So this video was just, "game was a thing, it's not anymore, watch this other video for the background on the internet drama, goodbye"
What else did you want from it
It seemed like such a striking project, what a pity that this happened to him in the end.
Part of me wonders if Phil stepping down and most likely cancelling the project is one last "fuck you" to the fandom, a "if you hate me so much then you don't get to play my game" type thing. His online personality is so unwaveringly dickish that it seems like that's just who he is as a person, and I wouldn't be surprised if that's why he stepped down. He's been in controversy before and not wavered, though this seems to be larger controversy than the usual shit he gets himself into. Some people need to learn to think before they speak.
It makes me sad to see fnaf plus canceled, I just wish this controversy never happened. I agree with a lot of your points on the controversy, and I hope Phisnom can move forward from this.
the one thing phisnom did right in this situation was stepping away, whether that was of his own volition or pr Asking Him Nicely™️. the way he handled the situation of his fans sending threats and gore to a child for joking about him disliking ruin was really irresponsible as both an independent creator and as an official representation of the FNaF brand. making jokes at the expense of a child and egging on the people responsible by liking their tweets instead of, y'know, discouraging that behavior from his fans, is genuinely kinda gross. he definitely took the "i'm an asshole" persona too far, and should've apologized from the beginning.
for all my criticisms of how he handled this situation and how i dislike the trivialization of the situation as "twitter kids lul" by people who weren't present and don't understand the psychological impact online dogpiling of that nature can have on someone so young, i am genuinely disappointed that FNaF plus is currently up in the air. it was a very promising fangame and it breaks my heart to see another gorgeous project tanked by the terrible actions of the person in charge of it.
The cancellation made me mad asf. Literally the only thing FNAF related I saw that looked like it had some promise. I kept checking in on it for about a year, and then out of absolutely fucking nowhere it’s gone.
I just found your channel last night and you happened to upload the day later :)
Instant sub after all the awesome quality content
Keep it up man
Morale of the story: If you're asked to take something seriously. Maybe do it.
honestly, Phisnom's controversy just makes Kane's old twitter outburst even funnier in retrospect
i highly doubt FNAF+ will become lost media, Phil will just post the game to ganejolt and laugh about the whole thing
What did Kane do?
@@anyoneatall3488 massive outburst where he told the fnaf community to fuck themselves because people kept criticizing the Fanverse Initiative's current state