Breathe new life into an old MacBook with THIS upgrade

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    Why do Apple Products last so long? Why can a 2010 MacBook Pro be just as good today as it was many years ago? Today we're unpacking the things that have changed in the technology space to make it possible for technology to last longer than anyone ever thought possible a decade ago
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    0:00 Intro
    2:28 What changed?
    3:50 Moore's law stagnation?
    5:30 How to make old tech last longer
    7:32 Uncommon upgrades with a big impact
    9:38 Upgrade an old display for $30
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  • @lukemiani
    @lukemiani  Před 2 lety +95

    Do you think modern Macs can be this long lasting in 12 years time? Also, check out my new merch if you enjoyed the video and want to support the channel! crowdmade.com/collections/lukemiani

    • @FireAngelZero
      @FireAngelZero Před 2 lety +11

      I have a 2010 MBP 17” with the anti glare screen. Outside of the fact it only runs High Sierra it’s still a really good, sturdy and solid machine. I now have a 2021 16” MBP, but I will still use my 2010 MBP when I need to play around with some apps that still don’t work on my M1 Pro.

    • @johnnyboy55
      @johnnyboy55 Před 2 lety +7

      Guess we’ll know once 2034 arrives. 😊

    • @TeamixlYT
      @TeamixlYT Před 2 lety +3

      In order to boost performance i advise using toothpaste that has been recommended by 10/10 doctors as thermal paste.

    • @vanCaldenborgh
      @vanCaldenborgh Před 2 lety +3

      Yes, the low-end users will be content with the M1 max. Of course they will have to settle for low-res 8k videos. ;)

    • @CommodoreFan64
      @CommodoreFan64 Před 2 lety +9

      I have a recycle center rescued 13in Mid-2012 MacBook Pro, and as much as I don't like Apple because of their closed ecosystem, and anti-consumer right to repair stance, it's still a good machine with a new battery, 8GB of RAM, HDD cable, 120GB SSD, and Solus Budgie Linux installed on it, and it does nearly everything at 720p I could want of a daily non gaming machine if I ever need it, I just can't get the damn fan to spin correctly to keep it cool as I would like, so I don't use it for things like video editing. So yes IMHO you are correct about how machines are able to last so much longer now if you are not doing high end gaming, or high end work.
      Also yes even after Apples stops supporting the new M1/M2/etc.. machines I think there will be a lot of life in them with the fact the Linux community is doing some fantastic work, and even with the early results in some cases they are already making them faster than with Mac OS on them.

  • @ordinaryalan
    @ordinaryalan Před 2 lety +1040

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, you are one of the few tech reviewers who continuously explore the used Apple device market and consistently show that you don’t have to buy the newest and most expensive machines every time they come out. Mad respect to you Luke.

    • @dimakonstanta1868
      @dimakonstanta1868 Před 2 lety +7

      Yes, absolutely!

    • @dimakonstanta1868
      @dimakonstanta1868 Před 2 lety +8

      This is also why we love this channel

    • @karcinor
      @karcinor Před 2 lety +3

      Totally, Luke is the better
      MKBHD!

    • @ArulIrudayam
      @ArulIrudayam Před 2 lety +8

      The reason I keep coming back because this channel sets itself apart from the rest , good for the earth and good for my pocket.

    • @IbuyMicrowaves
      @IbuyMicrowaves Před rokem +2

      Fr why are you wasting 2k pounds just for something that you can make yourself (2012 MacBook Pro Unibody) Obviously it's not as fast but it's still very capable

  • @poker.4203
    @poker.4203 Před 2 lety +205

    Luke you are one of the few CZcamsrs who encourage buying the old Macs. I still have my stock mid 2012 13 inch Pro base model. Got it from my dad a few years ago. It's amazing though it's starting to lag now. Either I'll get a ssd and ram upgrade or just buy the base model M1 Air. Great machines nonetheless

    • @Wanted797
      @Wanted797 Před 2 lety +24

      Ssd will make that like new.

    • @clorofilaazul
      @clorofilaazul Před 2 lety +14

      You should definitely upgrade to an SSD. It will make a huge difference.

    • @crawdaddy1600
      @crawdaddy1600 Před 2 lety +4

      id get the base m1 air

    • @chromaticvisuelle
      @chromaticvisuelle Před 2 lety +2

      Or old thinkpads, they are excellent!

    • @yuvrajharod5249
      @yuvrajharod5249 Před 2 lety +1

      Hey buddy, got your M1 then?
      or still working on the older 13inch?
      would you like to give it away by any chance?

  • @fd3s7
    @fd3s7 Před 2 lety +43

    Luke, I'd love to see a video comparing everyday use on older versus newer Macs. Like time to boot up, time to get around in Safari, working with email, working with the basic Photos app, etc. - stuff lots of people do. Would be interesting to see the difference between the modern Macs and 8-12 year old models, especially with upgrades. I think it's provable that an older Mac is really just fine for MANY users that just want to do day-to-day usage, not doing video editing or 3D rendering.

  • @SpencerYonce
    @SpencerYonce Před rokem +22

    Dude, you are the only guy I know who is still showing us these awesome tricks for using our old laptops. I’m still using my 2012 MacBook Air 13”, I’ve replaced the battery, but it’s got flash storage and I use it literally everyday.

  • @gavinitka5759
    @gavinitka5759 Před rokem +10

    Hey Luke, I just did the same SSD upgrade with a free one from micro center to my 2011 15 inch macbook pro. Now it runs like a new computer! I love your videos.

  • @erickondratieff4770
    @erickondratieff4770 Před 2 lety +9

    There are few things more satisfying than taking an outmoded piece of electronic gear and restoring it to a high level of functionality. That’s why I love watching your videos, because I can’t spend as much time as you do doing these kinds of things, but I really enjoy them. Thanks for another awesome video!

  • @greylawson6352
    @greylawson6352 Před 2 lety +10

    Would love to see some side-by-side comparisons at the end where you compare a startup test and normal use cases between the machine before any upgrades and after. That way we could really experience the full effect of the nicer screen, faster SSD, and better wifi in how it reshapes the experience. Great video though

  • @erickmagnus
    @erickmagnus Před 2 lety +10

    I love this kind of video! I love shiny new things but I also love making sure we don't waste usable hardware.

  • @user-bp8yg3ko1r
    @user-bp8yg3ko1r Před 2 lety +12

    This perfectly shows why upgradeability and repairability is very important!

  • @skesinis
    @skesinis Před 2 lety +5

    I really liked this project Luke! Keep up with these, they’re really interesting! My take on my 2015 15 inch retina MacBook Pro was to repaste the CPU first, which made a 5 to 10 degrees C difference. Then a couple of years ago, I replaced the SSD with a high end at the time, 2TB Seagate Firecuda 510, which gave it a 2900MB/s read/write (or even more in some other benchmarks). This is on par with the 2019 16 inch Core i9 SSD, and it can still run Monterey! It had already 16GB of RAM (although not a discrete graphics card), so this makes it still a current machine for most of the work that I do, including software development. The difference with the 2014 15 inch retina MacBook Pro was at the PCIe lanes for the SSD, and also in the EFI: The 2015 model uses 4 PCIe lanes for the SSD, while the 2014 is using only 2, limiting the SSD performance to about 1650MB/s. Also when I used the 2TB Seagate Firecuda 510, I couldn’t install Windows 10 because the EFI wouldn’t boot from that SSD, but there was a solution for that: You can export the NVMe driver from the EFI of the 2015 model and import it to the 2014, allowing it to boot even from the Seagate. However, since it wasn’t going to use the extra speed, I replaced the Seagate SSD with a 2TB Crucial P2 NVMe 2280, which was supported by the existing EFI driver, so I could use Bootcamp for Windows 10 without modifications! Finally, last year I changed the batteries on both models in an Apple store, because, although they were still keeping more than 4~5 hours of juice, they were swelling, making them a potential fire hazard. Even though it’s not a cheap upgrade if done by Apple, they change the whole top part of the unibody, giving you a new keyboard, touchpad, along with an obviously unscratched unibody! I’d like to see if you could think of any other upgrade to the 2014 or 2015 model.

  • @joe28753
    @joe28753 Před 2 lety +15

    This is really amazing how usable these old Macs are, and for not much you can breathe some new life into them. That said, if you're really going this route, I would argue to break the budget a bit and splurge.. a 12 year old laptop, you're going to want or need a new battery. That alone would be about 100 bucks. Otherwise I agree - SSD and maybe a little RAM, you're good to go.

  • @bibasik7
    @bibasik7 Před 2 lety +101

    Fun fact: The RAM in 2010 15" and 17" MacBook Pros can only be upgraded to 8GB, while the RAM in the 2010 13" MacBook Pro can be upgraded to 16GB.

    • @Thiccies
      @Thiccies Před 2 lety +3

      Same with the 2010 unibody MacBook

    • @TheTalonts
      @TheTalonts Před 2 lety +2

      Yes, since the 13 used a different GPU, sometime in the past that firmware was updated and it allowed 16GB, while the 15/17 was never updated in a like manner.
      I upgraded my mid-2010 13" MBP to 16GB not long after that was discovered, and that made that system usable far longer than it would have been with 8GB.

    • @ibobeko4309
      @ibobeko4309 Před 2 lety

      I dont know how it is with Macs but Windows with 8gb ram is not enough.

    • @TheTalonts
      @TheTalonts Před 2 lety +3

      @@ibobeko4309 - Just like any other systems, it entirely depends on what programs you run.
      I've got 4gb systems running Windows 7 and 10 just fine.
      But 16gb isn't enough for my daily laptop. Because I load it up with multiple memory hog apps. The new laptop will have 32gb.

    • @mattnorton23
      @mattnorton23 Před rokem +1

      I have the MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid 2012) A1278 - can this handle the 16GB too? Or should I stick with the 8GB

  • @rabbitofdeth
    @rabbitofdeth Před 2 lety +12

    I've been watching this channel for a couple of years now, and growing up primarily a windows kid, I wanted a mac. I love exploring old hardware and giving it new life. My first mac was one that you recommended. Now I'm onto an m1 mini, but these videos never fail to excite me. There's just something about old macs that gets me super excited. Longevity is important these days; it seems like each year that passes makes the previous systems obselete. Keep up the good work.

    • @InTeCredo
      @InTeCredo Před 2 lety

      That's why I am still holding onto my Mid-2010 17" Macbook Pro and 27" iMac to this day...

    • @DaciaSandero_1.5DCi
      @DaciaSandero_1.5DCi Před 2 lety

      Mate, I'm still rocking an i5-4590 (GPU is the iGPU)
      I'm just a Windows kid wanting an older Mac.

  • @allanfagerlund7112
    @allanfagerlund7112 Před 2 lety +2

    Thanks! Watching this episode I just remembered having a non-working 2011. I found it in the pile and sure enough it had a silver bezel. Now my cheapo typewriter 2010 has an updated high(er) res screen and better network card. Best of all, 30 min fun tinkering with free electronics on a Sunday morning 😁

  • @bazwillrun
    @bazwillrun Před 2 lety +3

    Was given a mid 2012 MBP , upgraded to Big sur ,16GB ram, 2 SSD and use it for everything ...only thing it struggles with is 4k vid editing which i hardly ever bother with anyway...no reason to ditch it whatsoever...

  • @dgpsf
    @dgpsf Před 2 lety +17

    One more suggestion: Installing Linux on a decade plus old Mac can do wonders for speed. Modern mac OS is pretty painful on one of these, and old mac OS versions have started to lose things like support for current browsers. I actually installed Debian on one that I was thinking of scrapping and I run it 24/7 as a home server, mainly for Home Assistant! The CPU temps never go over 50 on it. When it was running mac OS the fans would spin frequently.

    • @arekplewa599
      @arekplewa599 Před rokem +1

      That's true, I use KDE Neon with the mtrack touchpad driver and it's fantastic, only thing I miss are gestures

  • @GOML_Redd
    @GOML_Redd Před 2 lety +11

    I have seen a few of these types of videos from you now and I think they are pretty valuable. I think the missing component is looking at things from a software perspective. Make a list of the top 5-10 apps that are still relevant in 2022 that would run on these machines. That would be a very interesting series.

    • @bluebird1954
      @bluebird1954 Před 2 lety

      Probably none 💀 dual core ain't running shit

    • @GOML_Redd
      @GOML_Redd Před 2 lety +3

      @@bluebird1954 Objectively untrue. I was using a dual core 2013 MBP to start my video editing career and it made me enough money for me to buy an M1 last year. A LOT can be done on a dual core and MacOS. It’s got more legs than you think.

  • @plentyofpaper
    @plentyofpaper Před 2 lety

    An upgrade I gave my mom's old 13" Macbook was swapping the DVD drive out for an extra hard drive. It required a special caddy, but if you don't use the optical drive, and happen to have a spare 2.5" hard drive laying around, I think it's a nice feature.
    This was especially helpful dealing with her massive photos library.

  • @danaeckel5523
    @danaeckel5523 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Ohh wow, this is a very handy video I stumbled upon. I have a Mid-2012 model that still has the DVD drive. I have a 1TB SSD, and 16GB of ram I installed over time as prices fell. I did not know about the screen and how easy it is to replace. I know my next upgrade, and it will be VERY soon! Thank you!

  • @ianhumphrey7218
    @ianhumphrey7218 Před 2 lety +4

    Hey, I watched this video on a 2010 MBP, it's the computer I have used almost daily since I bought it all those years ago. 😊

  • @100sons
    @100sons Před 2 lety +12

    the anti glare screen is indeed one of the best choice i did when ordering my 2011 unibody! It is the reason i still use my MB today for most of my tasks except for video editing and 3D.
    I really wish they would propose again this coating for the new ones!

    • @martinlebl631
      @martinlebl631 Před 2 lety

      Love that screen. But hard to find replacement, as all the replacement the shiny ones, so if you break it you are sort of screwed. (Edit: At least trying to find the 17 inch anti glare display.)

    • @szatanica1
      @szatanica1 Před 2 lety

      Is the screen really that good? It seems that my 2011 original one is still great…

    • @martinlebl631
      @martinlebl631 Před 2 lety

      @@szatanica1 It is a very nice 1900 by 1200, so nice resolution, and good aspect ration, and the anti-glare makes it work well under variety of lighting conditions, which is useful in a laptop. If it wasn't for the dodgy graphics cards these 2011 17 inchers would be great machines still.

    • @JohnSmith-ds7oi
      @JohnSmith-ds7oi Před 2 lety

      @@martinlebl631 That's the same resolution.

  • @AlMarche90
    @AlMarche90 Před 2 lety +2

    I recently bought a damaged 15" 2012 as a project, and while it's still not there (missing SSD and high-res display), it's surprising how well it holds up. It's running Monterey with OCLP.

  • @mariodasilva8729
    @mariodasilva8729 Před 2 lety

    Not many people would have this one as compared to the 2012 i7 MBP 15", but I like your idea of self-service and UPGRADING existing units just to keep them away from the Junkyard, if possible. Unfortunately, I still have my 17", and my 15" Powerbooks, not to mention a white iBook... Still in their original boxes, and barely working. Love it!

  • @Dogsnark
    @Dogsnark Před 2 lety +5

    I have a mid-2010 MBP and have already upped the RAM to 8g and replaced the HD with an SSD. It works just fine for my needs. But I’m very excited about the possibility of replacing the display! Mine is a 13inch so I hope that 13” replacement displays are also available. I wonder if the camera on the new display is also better than the original. I do a lot of Zoom, and the camera on this old machine is so poor. Thanks for doing this video.

    • @maugarciag
      @maugarciag Před rokem

      were you able to find the screen shown in this video? I cant find it for my 13" mpb 2010

  • @rajanipatil34
    @rajanipatil34 Před 2 lety +7

    There is a reason why it's called "Old Is Gold"

  • @maxklein2057
    @maxklein2057 Před 2 lety +1

    Bought a 2012 Retina 15'' used and it still runs beautifully even after 10 years! I love It!!! ❤

  •  Před 2 lety

    In 2010 I bought such a machine, did so many things with it, so many gigs as a VJ. I almost loved this machine, it was my daily companion until it was unfortunately stolen in March 2016.
    The anti-reflective coating was absolutely great and also looked good.

  • @STNKbone
    @STNKbone Před 2 lety +31

    I bought a 2012 MBP with the hi-res anti-glare screen a few years back, and just recently upgraded to Monterey using the OpenCore patcher. Runs great, and that display holds up well. I do like the silver bezels on mine.

    • @aarav4390
      @aarav4390 Před 2 lety +1

      I have the same thing , except I still run native Catalina

    • @ramikii3762
      @ramikii3762 Před 2 lety

      Is It Safe Cause I have an imac 2011 and i was thinking about doing it

    • @aarav4390
      @aarav4390 Před 2 lety

      @@ramikii3762 I tried patching Big Sur on my Mac , and I accidentally clicked the restart button during the update . I lost all my files but the Mac still works (had to reinstall Catalina )

    • @STNKbone
      @STNKbone Před 2 lety

      @@ramikii3762 The whole process went surprisingly smoothly for me, and I've had no issues so far. But the OpenCore site mentions that older Macs without native Metal support have to jump through a few more hoops during install to get graphics working properly, so you may want to check first. The site has a chart showing which models are compatible and explains what extra steps are needed.

    • @NicksLocker
      @NicksLocker Před 2 lety

      does it have an ssd? I had one of those, it was a 2009 17 inch one though with a core 2 duo, it still looked very sleek in 2019. i ended up switching to using windows 10 on it for a little while until i sold it.

  • @ReneDelfgou
    @ReneDelfgou Před 2 lety +3

    Just replaced the battery in my trusty 2012 MacBook Air. It is still working remarkably well. Slow to boot up, but once started, just don’t turn it of 😉

    • @lysanatt
      @lysanatt Před 2 lety

      May I ask where you got the battery? I take it it is not original, and it seems like hit and miss, getting one that works properly. Asking for a friend, that is my old MBAir '12.

  • @ToddEvans1964
    @ToddEvans1964 Před 2 lety +2

    This is a fun video, and I love the silver bezels! They are my favorite thing about the mid-2010's generation of MacBook Airs.

  • @WarriorsPhoto
    @WarriorsPhoto Před 2 lety +2

    I would say knowing how good that screen is. That it is the number one upgrade. Good work on making this old computer useful again. (:

  • @kyleboss
    @kyleboss Před 2 lety +7

    I agree with everything he said but if you can afford it I would get the 2012 only because it has USB 3.0 and it should have a faster Wi-Fi card to begin with. If you can get it for the same price it is definitely worth the upgrade

    • @sweettooth5962
      @sweettooth5962 Před 9 měsíci

      Is not more easy to get a USB wifi adapter instead change the whole antenna?

  • @inspirationtoday7550
    @inspirationtoday7550 Před 2 lety +3

    Hey Luke . the MacBook pros from 2011 , do you notice a difference in performance compared to one from 2013 . I'm asking because I heard the 2011
    models still didn't have hyper threading technology , but the ones just two
    years later around 2013 did.

  • @gregordiseth6651
    @gregordiseth6651 Před 2 lety +2

    Speaking of leveraging older Mac hardware, I'm running Monterey via OpenCore on my late 2013 MPB 15 with 8GB of RAM. It runs flawlessly, no load spikes or mad fan action, it's totally smooth! The machine is obviously slow by today's standards, but it is perfectly useable for 99% of everyday use. I didn't notice any slowdown after installing Monterey.
    If you don't plan on doing any video editing, or heavy photo editing, this is an option to explore to upgrade an older Mac without even opening it up.

  • @WhittyPics
    @WhittyPics Před 2 lety +1

    I had a 2009 and a 2012 MBP and I put SSDs in both of them and while a SSD will drastically shorten bootup time and program load times, they don't speed up the actual speed of the computer, unless you are running a program thats uses a lot of disc access. I had DVD ROM drives in both of mine and the main reason I sold my 2009 and went to the 2012 was to get 16GB of RAM.

  • @alialo2529
    @alialo2529 Před 2 lety +13

    It would be interesting to see a video like this on the 2006-2007 MacBooks; so many of them were made, which are now sitting in closets due to the limited knowledge on what can be done to bring them back to life/making them usable.

    • @BengtRonning
      @BengtRonning Před 2 lety +3

      Likewise, I have a macbook from 2006, the black plastic machine, with a beautiful keyboard I would love to bring back to life.

  • @RA10Premium
    @RA10Premium Před 2 lety +3

    Reminds me of a chunky MacBook Air with a better display. Does anyone remember those bezels??

  • @rickyt11010
    @rickyt11010 Před 2 lety

    I love my 2012 15inch MBP. Maxed the ram, 512gb ssd, and installed Monterey with OCLP and it runs like a dream. I did have some problems with the auto keyboard backlight not working (would light up just not auto adjust) but what seemed to fix that was installing Catalina and then upgrading to Monterey. I want the high res screen but not a big fan of the silver bezels, makes it looks like an oversized MacBook air.

  • @gangsterboy81
    @gangsterboy81 Před 2 lety +1

    15 inch mid 2010 MacBook Pro was my first MacBook that I bought. of course second hand.. I had only installed an ssd and 8gb ram on it.. with the antiglare display, it looks so beautiful, I want to buy it again and do all the upgrades by myself 😂

  • @zaclaramay
    @zaclaramay Před 2 lety +6

    Still daily driving a 2012 15" MacBook Pro with an upgraded screen, 16GB of RAM, and the duel hard drive mod. Honestly it's probably the best Apple laptop of all time.

    • @CashmereSky
      @CashmereSky Před 2 lety +1

      M1 Pro / Max has entered the chat

    • @zaclaramay
      @zaclaramay Před 2 lety +1

      @@CashmereSky will see how those things are doing in ten years. To early to tell what the long term reliability is yet. The CPU and design is really nice though.

    • @CashmereSky
      @CashmereSky Před 2 lety

      @@zaclaramay Haha I suppose. I had a 2011 15" MBP with the anti-glare screen like this video. It was a fantastic computer, maxed out ram and 512GB SSD too. Ran like a champ. Upgraded to Mid-2015 Retina... then just sold for a 16" M1 Pro

    • @HVDynamo
      @HVDynamo Před 2 lety

      Same here, only I still kept the optical drive. It has most definitely been the best laptop I've had by a large margin. The battery even still lasts 2 hours or so an it's the original! I'm really happy I went with the "hi-rez" screen back in the day. I still don't understand why that just wasn't the standard resolution for it. The normal resolution was garbage even for the time.

    • @Alex-yj9xl
      @Alex-yj9xl Před 2 lety

      @@zaclaramay I don't think it will be as good. With terrible upgradability (non-existent), and it being even more locked down, and terrible repairability, so if anything fails it just is dead, it wont be as good :/

  • @iCaveDave
    @iCaveDave Před 2 lety +4

    Silver bezels makes it look like the ultimate MacBook Air from the time!

  • @marvruona1453
    @marvruona1453 Před 2 lety

    I upgraded my 2012 15" 2.6 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 unibody MacBook Pro with the matte high-resolution screen and I love it! This is my daily use computer and it handles everything I need it to do, including Photoshop and Adobe Illustrator and lots of web surfing. I actually bought this computer based on Luke's recommendation about the unibody MBPs. Thank you Luke for your continuing support for the older MacBook Pros!

  • @andrefelixstudio2833
    @andrefelixstudio2833 Před rokem +1

    That’s absolutely amazing you did a fantastic job great information!

  • @dubbynelson
    @dubbynelson Před 2 lety +9

    Personally, I've been using a mid-2012 13" MPB for the past two years. I upgraded it with a 1TB SSD and, quite frankly, it's been wonderful. Sure, I'm planning on upgrading soon, but as far as I'm concerned this thing did me really well. On top of it all, this was what introduced me to the Apple ecosystem.

  • @Marngel
    @Marngel Před 2 lety +8

    If only the M1 Macs were this upgradeable. My MacBook Air maybe excellent right now. But if anything fails on it like the SSD or any component, it would basically become useless. Granted, the odds of that are really low, especially for models with upgraded components. But the chance is always there. SSDs are a consumable part like the battery and while you can replace the battery somewhat easily in the newer M1 Macs, you can't do that with their SSDs

    • @matthewjbauer1990
      @matthewjbauer1990 Před 2 lety

      If I could swap RAM, SSD, and install x86 Windows on an M1 (dual boot), I may consider an M1 MBP or MBA. Until then, I will stick to using Thinkpads.

  • @szatanica1
    @szatanica1 Před 2 lety

    I absolutely agree that they pass the test of time and are still fabulous. I actually have just bought a new Mac mini m1 a month ago or so and till then I was using my 2011 MacBook Pro. Ive done all the upgrades to id - ssd, old hd instead of cd rom, 16Gb, new thermal paste, speakers, fixed a broken fan (which was seriously the ONlY thing that ever broke). I havent done the screen. Didnt find a need. Now im thinking of trying to install monterey on it.
    So Yes, lets revive! Our basic needs have not changed at all, so as soon as we can deal with this „I want new new new” tendency we’re all good with older stuff. And I actually really enjoy the upgrading process:)

  • @aguliner
    @aguliner Před 2 lety

    🤯 awesome to see these machines - because I literally had the Pismo (ca 2000) then got the MacBook Pro 15 i5 (mid 2010) and just got an MBA M1 8cpu/8gpu/16gb/1TB (last year)! Here’s to Hoping it lasts me 10years and keeping the streak alive!!! Love your channel! Thanks for the great videos!

  • @Ashleyyyyy666
    @Ashleyyyyy666 Před 2 lety +40

    if you want to make these old Mac's last even longer, you can install Linux on them. that way you're running an up to date OS still. i'd love to see this concept explored in a video.

    • @shaocaholica
      @shaocaholica Před 2 lety +1

      Linux is fine for some ppl but not good if you’re going to give the machine to your mom or something.

    • @Ashleyyyyy666
      @Ashleyyyyy666 Před 2 lety +3

      @@shaocaholica what do you mean? if i set it up for my mom, like, if i installed Linux, installed chrome etc for her she'd probably have no idea that it was linux. she just clicks on the chrome icon to get on the internet.

    • @andrewwojtas8486
      @andrewwojtas8486 Před 2 lety +4

      @@shaocaholica for most regular people who just do normal tasks, like writing doctors, browser tasks and such, most modern linux distros are fine

    • @shaocaholica
      @shaocaholica Před 2 lety

      Sure that will work for that one use case. If you live with or close to your mom for support. The moment she goes to do something else or something breaks you’re on the hook for support. No one else will be realistically able to help her within her circle of reach.

    • @jameslenney
      @jameslenney Před 2 lety

      I’d love to see this, too. Can you install Linux on a Mac or is it just an idea?

  • @johnb.wessels2115
    @johnb.wessels2115 Před 2 lety +3

    This is exactly the reason why I bought a mid 2013 MacBook Air with an i7 and 8Gb ram. I paid in total €170,- including the upgrade. I upgraded it with an 256 GB M2 apple ssd and divided it in two. One partition with MacOs big sur, the other with windows 10 via boot camp. So I have the best of both worlds

    • @johnb.wessels2115
      @johnb.wessels2115 Před 2 lety

      I also have an 15 inch MBP with the matte screen. Unfortunately I can only install windows 7 with boot camp. Not sure if I'll replace the superdrive with an ssd bay.

  • @rbstorms
    @rbstorms Před 2 lety

    My personal MBP I use is this same model, with the same upgrades you suggest here. Works great. I work for a school district that used to be an Apple shop, but has gone Chromebook and Windows. There are still users of 8-12 year-old iMacs, MacBooks, and MBPs that we are having to forcibly remove them from the users, only because they have been deemed security risks due to not running current OS and security software. Because of software (Renewed Vision's ProPresenter) I've purchased in the past running on my personal machine, I'll bring it in for special programs. I ran our Baccalaureate program, and the 12 year-old MBP ran flawlessly.

  • @aamsergie
    @aamsergie Před rokem

    Excellent Video Luke. Great tips!

  • @DodoKing187
    @DodoKing187 Před 2 lety +4

    I would've easily paid a 1000 bucks more on the new MBP if it had the anti glare coating on the XDR display. I miss the times when Apple was actually thinking of professionals and giving options to the screens.

  • @shawnstar86
    @shawnstar86 Před 2 lety +4

    We seen this video 1000 times luke

    • @alexpieyt
      @alexpieyt Před 2 lety +1

      this is why you subscribe to Luke Miani

    • @shawnstar86
      @shawnstar86 Před 2 lety

      @@alexpieyt his videos were different back then now it’s almost like a repeat of same stuff in a different way lol

    • @jameslenney
      @jameslenney Před 2 lety

      Chill, babe.

  • @mattives29
    @mattives29 Před 2 lety

    I've built a couple hackintoshes but it was your channel and how well you encourage the used apple market that this last February I bought a 2012 macbook pro off ebay for $250. The thing is in amazing condition, all I have done so far is clean the logicboard and upgrade from 8 to 16 gb of ram. It came with a 256 gb ssd. I was an adamant anti-apple person but this macbook without a doubt is the best computer I have ever owned or made...and I have made a lot. I'm going to look into the screen upgrade, I didn't know it could be done. I am also looking at getting my wife a 2015 or 2017 (depends on price) Imac. Thank you for the nice videos and help.

  • @Revlrt1964
    @Revlrt1964 Před rokem

    I have a 2008 MacBook aluminum. I recently had to replace the cord due to fraying. A few years ago I doubled the ram and installed an ssd. It still works pretty well but a lot of external apps now won’t work with the old hardware. However it works for what I need it to do. Amazing longevity as far as I am concerned and I’d get another Mac without question.

  • @adenovirus.
    @adenovirus. Před rokem +3

    Russian expansionism? NATO expansionism may be more appropriate.

  • @Al_W_On_The_Trackz
    @Al_W_On_The_Trackz Před rokem

    Hey Luke, this is a great video post. Can you do a video for the 2015 MacBook Air upgrade? I'm curious to see what cool upgrades and resources you pull out. Happy New Year to you!

  • @hypergl6974
    @hypergl6974 Před 2 lety

    Just resuscitated my mid2012 15 inch macbook pro with AG screen... The chip delivering power to the discrete graphics died and after disabling the graphics I can use this machine for quite some serious work for the 10th year... Battery still good for 1 hour of browsing, the keyboard is enjoyable, the screen more than adequate, fast enough to process most things I throw at it (of course no video editing in real time). One of the best buy of my life... 10 years and still going!

  • @glennmckenzie1096
    @glennmckenzie1096 Před 2 lety +1

    Watched this on a 'mid-2010' 17" i5, with an upgraded 1tb SSD, and it's original 1920 x 1200 resolution. It happily runs Logic Pro 10.4.8. I'm only going to upgrade if I can work out the logistics of networking it (and my 2008 Mac Pro) to an M1 to use all my music apps/interfaces etc.

  • @Andreas_Straub
    @Andreas_Straub Před rokem

    I also still use and love my mid 2012 15" Retina MacBook Pro. Upgraded the WiFi/Bluetooth card to 802.11ac and Bluetooth 4LE a while ago. It has 16GB of RAM and a SSD, which I upgraded many years ago to 1TB (transcend). It is powered by a 2.6GHz Core i7.
    This machine runs everything I need it for as good as when it was "new". Even the battery still works for a few hours(!). Absolutely no need to upgrade to a new machine.

  • @darrencritchley5425
    @darrencritchley5425 Před 2 lety

    I love these kind of videos, we all have older macs hardly worth selling! So why not upgrade and get a little more life from it! Thanks Luke 😉 from 🇬🇧

  • @pcc678
    @pcc678 Před 2 lety +2

    I have a mid-2009 MacBook Pro, which has a Core 2 Duo processor. I paid $5 for it at a garage sale a couple years ago. It had no power supply so the guy didn't know if it worked or not. I bought a aftermarket PS for $15, and it worked. I then put in a 250GB SSD, which I bought at MicroCenter for $28. It had 4 GB RAM, and I didn't bother upgrading that. Now for the best part: I loaded Linux Mint ver 20.3 on it. It loaded and worked perfectly. It runs great, and is a perfect setup for web browsing, word processing, watching movies, and doing Arduino programming.

  • @manufilms29
    @manufilms29 Před rokem +1

    I just got an early 2011 13” mbp. I’m totally delighted with it. Perfect for what I need. Speed is flawless, won’t do the 4k 10bit video editing I do with my M1, but except that battery goes for 5h, I got it already with 16gb ram, 240gb ssd, it’s amazing.
    I totally agree they are already good enough for most things, I never wanted the latest and greatest but what I needed for me. Same with the phone, just switched from a great xiaomi note 8 pro to iPhone 11. I don’t know, even they are so criticized, apple does things well, every detail. I,m a videographer, I can tell even though iPhones don’t have the most colorful images from camera, they have the best image, everyone else it’s just software improvement.

  • @brendomiryr
    @brendomiryr Před 2 lety

    Love your videos. Keep ‘em coming! 👍

  • @noahderrington5156
    @noahderrington5156 Před rokem

    I still have a 17” Mid 2010 i7 MBP Antiglare with an SSD and max ram and incredibly it’s still completely useable! I finally got an M2 MacBook Air (which is lovely of course) but I have so much love for the old one. Also, it has FireWire, Ethernet, MagSafe and Thunderbolt so really good IO for music production given its age!

  • @99Technetium
    @99Technetium Před 2 lety

    Recently upgraded from a 2012 15” 2.6GHz. I did swap to a Hi-Res display, but mine was glossy. Also did the obligatory SSD install (a dual drive setup with a Sabrent adapter), but Apple killed Software RAID with APFS on the Unibody MacBook Pros so it was just a unified volume.
    Now have a maxed 2015 Retina 15 with a 2TB m.2. Paired with a Thunderbolt Display for desk work it’s a solid setup.

  • @05Forenza
    @05Forenza Před 2 lety

    12:19 I have a 2010 MacBook Pro with the anti-glare display. I am a HUGE proponent that when you buy tech, buy the absolute best you can buy. It helps to future proof yourself to some extent. I still use my MacBook Pro at least a few times a month. Nothing intense anymore (I used to game on it). I upgraded the HDD to an SSD which made it lightyears better. Still boots quick, very minimal lag on anything normal. I think I spent $75 on a 256gb SSD 5 years ago.

  • @BlaxkRaven02
    @BlaxkRaven02 Před rokem

    going on 15 years of being a tech savvy guy. Back then being a 13 yr old until I turned 20 last phone was Huawei Nexus 6p. Along as my current device still works to perfect. No need to upgrade until it breaks or has more issues back to back.

  • @jojomon5
    @jojomon5 Před 2 lety

    I'm running a 2011 iMac on the sales counter of my wife's flower shop. Only upgrade is the RAM from 4GB to 12GB. The Mac runs smoothly as a POS and all the admin tasks. I won't do photo nor video editing on this iMac, but most of what we do is web based and both Safari and Chrome browsers on this machine keep up just fine. So my iMac is not quite 12 years, but almost there! Great content Luke!

  • @billmoser2670
    @billmoser2670 Před 2 lety

    I just did this upgrade and it’s amazing!! The best $32 I ever spent on my 2012 MBP

  • @jaynelim260
    @jaynelim260 Před 2 lety

    Came across this video … i have a macbook air 11 going on 10 years now . Im still using it as my main computer . Still fast and i have no complaints . Plus i love the size

  • @gergemall
    @gergemall Před rokem

    I think I still have one or two. Thank you. Excellent content . Looks cool . Great job and I thank you.

  • @pierre68299
    @pierre68299 Před 2 lety

    Just super amazing, I'll definitely shop around more and start tinkering again,this is my passion

  • @tomasjones3755
    @tomasjones3755 Před rokem +1

    Nice vid & I agree. I have 2 Macbooks; both 2012 15" w Hi-Res Matte displays. One is a 2.6 ghz and the other is the option order 2.7 ghz. They are quite amazing, especially for their age

    • @Derision667
      @Derision667 Před rokem

      I have the same mid-2012 15" machine, albeit *without* the matte display (honestly, 1440x900 doesn't bother me much: it's still a lot nicer than the 1280x800 of the 13", which I've also got). It has 16GB of RAM, 4TB total of SSD space (I removed the optical drive and replaced it with dual 2TB SSDs); I have a Thunderbolt PCIe expansion chassis with a USB 3.2 gen 2 card, and two Belkin Thunderbolt 3 docks. Using OpenCore and Kryptonite, I'm running Big Sur and running an external Radeon RX 580 (the funny thing is that Big Sur actually runs better, and throws better benchmarks, on this machine than Catalina does, which was the last officially supported OS). This thing drives four monitors on its own; with the eGPU and Thunderbolt expansions, it's like an entirely new machine and easily hangs with my Ryzen-powered Windows gaming rig (significantly outperforming it, in some cases). When Big Sur support is dropped next year, I'll upgrade again to Monterey, buying myself at least one more year of software support and, depending on whether they figure out the kinks of getting Ventura running well -- I am hoping by the time Monterey is dropped, that I'm happy enough with Apple's offerings that I might consider a new machine, but so far, I just can't let go of this one. It's fast, reliable, and can still do plenty of heavy lifting (I run the IT department of a not-for-profit and this is my main portable machine, and while at home and on my desk with all its Thunderbolt expansion goodness and dual Cinema displays, it does quite a bit of video and audio editing). All on a machine I got for sixty bucks off eBay.
      So you're absolutely right: they are quite amazing for their age. I'll keep mine chugging along, and wish you luck with yours as well!

  • @marcochavanne
    @marcochavanne Před rokem

    I just put an SSD and 16GB of RAM in my sisters 2010 13” MBP. My mom has a 2010 15 that will be getting all these mods you listed and using Open Core Legacy patcher to get them on Ventura. Thank you so much for making the video.

  • @davidpeppert777
    @davidpeppert777 Před rokem

    Another great video. You are always very informative and I share your sentiments that we can breathe new life into relatively old laptops and computers for a modest price. Have you thought about making a video on upgrading the 2012 model?

  • @curtzjj7871
    @curtzjj7871 Před dnem

    Just made this and it was insanely good, thanks for the recipe

  • @DavidSmith-ne1zp
    @DavidSmith-ne1zp Před rokem

    The world is a better place with tech mentors like yourself! Thanks.

  • @10cFILM
    @10cFILM Před rokem

    Just found this video very informative, thanks Luke. As I have a 2011 MacBook pro 15 inch with icore 7 with a bad screen, I was contemplating whether to replace it or put the money for a new m1/m2 Macbook air. After watching this, I might try to find a 30 dollars display.
    The only downside of my MacBook is the speaker easily broken, changed once and it broke again.
    Another disadvantage is it has only usb2 ports which when transfer files it's pretty slow.

  • @icsunonove72
    @icsunonove72 Před 2 lety +1

    Yes, it's a good idea, I'm still watching your vids on a MBP mid 2009 with a SSD and 8 gigs of RAM. It's good enough for what I'm doing. But I will take big leap forward any month soon and buy me some M-chipped macbook and hope that that one will last at least 10 years as well.

  • @beitie
    @beitie Před 2 lety

    I love the upgrade selection here, but do wish you would have gotten into the software/driver side of the newer Airport card. I did that upgrade with a 2010 MBP, and sometimes it was great, other times it was a HUGE pain. Also, I think you have to modify the bracket for the airport card. Unless I'm totally wrong, it's not just a plug and play part.

  • @DinodogJr
    @DinodogJr Před 2 lety +2

    There’s are many times I wanted to sell off my MBA 2012, 11 inch. The Apple glows logo is too attractive and still a cool classic to me in any times I looking at it.
    Still keeping it in this year 2022.

  • @dcotai2902
    @dcotai2902 Před 2 lety

    .... I followed your instructions and kept my 2011 macbook.. Works fine no need to by M1... Can skip M1 for now... Thank you so much..

  • @MrDangeroz
    @MrDangeroz Před 2 lety

    Great video again Luke, the planet thanks you. One machine I have in my collection but it's still in it's plastic wrapping in the box!

  • @rosemaryroscrow2506
    @rosemaryroscrow2506 Před rokem

    I've still got my 2013 MacBook Pro. Upgraded the to an SSD and 16Gb ram which gave it a new lease of life. I now have the Mac mini M1but I still pull out the MacBook for more heavy duty on-the-road stuff that my iPad cannot handle.

  • @damianbergreen
    @damianbergreen Před rokem

    I have a MacBook Pro from 2010 That I upgraded with 10GB of RAM, a 120GB Samsung SSD, and I installed MacOS Big Sur on it. It runs AMAZING

  • @agusorellana5551
    @agusorellana5551 Před 2 lety +1

    I think I got an absolute score with a late 2011 with the graphics issue solved by gmux bypass, 8gb of ram and 240gb ssd and a charger, for 180 dollars as my secondary machine. And it’s in great shape

  • @ultraviolettp3446
    @ultraviolettp3446 Před 2 lety

    Once again, you prove why your channel is the best when it comes to covering Fruit company content. You don't just act breathlessly over rumors and speculation about new Fruit. You cover and respect older (and better) Fruit company products and show how to use them in the modern world. I have acquired and upgraded 2, mid 2012 13 inch MacBook Pros with dual SSD's (one OS and one data) along with 16 gb of ram. Both are remarkable in how they are nearly brand new looking and are still good computers to do daily things. I became interested because of you and I want to thank you for your continued coverage of older Fruit hardware. Kudos to you!

  • @atarixle
    @atarixle Před 2 lety

    Nice to see that there was a time when the display was that easy to replace. I had to do a few more screws on my A1181's ...

  • @PauloParreira
    @PauloParreira Před 2 lety

    I bought it in 2009 and then sold it to a friend, and it stills going. My 2015 macbook pro is still my main laptop today.

  • @manuelcisneros3277
    @manuelcisneros3277 Před 2 lety +1

    typing this on my new 2012 macbook pro with 8gb of ram and dual drives with an ssd and 1tb hd runs great

  • @SwingingChoke
    @SwingingChoke Před rokem

    Great video. I have a 09 13” 11 17” and 12 13” all have ssds and max ram 16gb on 11 17” and 12 13” display upgrade on 11 17” these machines out lasted all my retinas MacBooks. My retina MacBooks all died with motherboard failure from overheating. I’ll never ever by another MacBook again. But I’ll keep my 09-12 for as long as they still function.

  • @drummers1991
    @drummers1991 Před 2 lety

    Great work Luke! Always enjoy your videos!
    Question- can you do these upgrades on a 13 inch mid 09 Macbook Pro?

  • @studiosnch
    @studiosnch Před 2 lety

    My family is still running old Macs (including me) thanks to new internal hardware. All of these have their hard drives replaced with SSDs, and my iMac is maxed out on RAM (32GB), so at least it's smooth and fast when using it for light- to medium-intensity tasks.

  • @carsorsomethingidk
    @carsorsomethingidk Před 2 lety +2

    I have an M1 iMac and I had a 2019 base 16 inch MacBook Pro. I sold the MacBook as I hardly touched it at all and used some of the funds to get my business further along. However I realized that having a laptop might be helpful when I go out of town and on vacation although that’s rather infrequent. Therefore since it would be sitting around unused most of the time I didn’t really feel like spending $2500 on a new 16 inch Pro. I bought a Mid-2010 17 Inch with a Core i7, 8GB of RAM and a 500GB HDD on eBay for around $330. I wasn’t sure if would work out as it’s a 12 year old computer, it actually is much more respectable than I expected. I normally just browse safari and do basic tasks (which if Miani’s video about a 15 inch MacBook Air does come into fruition, I would likely buy one instead of the 16 inch Pro, just as he stated in that video I bought it not because I needed the power, but I want a larger display) and this Pro does that honestly marginally slower it seems than the 9 year newer Pro did. Sure, it takes longer to start up but most of the time I don’t even power it off. It’s plugged in and in sleep mode on my desk. It honestly really made me realize how overkill that 16 inch was for what I was doing. I don’t feel the need any more at all to get the new 16 inch; this 17 inch does everything I want for about 85% off, it has a DVD drive if I need it, and much more ports. It also has the anti-glare display.
    In order to get the max out of it, I probably would put an SSD in it, but I’m not rushing to do that. I’m satisfied with it as it is.

  • @Fallout75
    @Fallout75 Před 2 lety +1

    Prior to my 16” M1 Pro MacBook Pro, I was and still use my non-retina 2012 MBP with maxed out ram and SSD, haven’t tried to patch it or upgrade Airport… Hmmm 🤔

  • @fancorral
    @fancorral Před rokem

    Thanks! Got a 2010 Macbook pro 15" with a display that conked out on me. Interested in upgrading my old friend. Your advice needed on where to buy the display.

  • @nico96gmail
    @nico96gmail Před 2 lety +1

    I still use my 2009 15” MacBook Pro. It has the anti glare display and an ssd. I will check out the wifi card upgrade. Using opencore legacy patcher I could even use display mirror airdrop etc.

  • @Larentuubi
    @Larentuubi Před 2 lety +1

    Is it possible for a 13 "macbook pro to do a similar screen update? I have got 13” Mac book pro, i7, 16Gb with 1T SSD. It runs fine.