ABIGAIL - CIVIL WAR & YELLING AT OLD LADIES IN A CINEMA
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- čas přidán 11. 07. 2024
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I watched A24's and Alex Garland's Civil War and the fun, gory vampire horror comedy Abigail in the wonderful Sun Theatre in Yarraville.
I also yelled at a pair of old ladies who were talking in the cinema. AITA?
00:00 Intro
00:50 Civil War
09:30 I Told Off Old Ladies
11:12 Abigail
18:00 Outro
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I would have been happy to pay the price of admission just to see Terry tell the old ladies to Shut Up!
Totally worth it.
Heck I’d have paid for us all! 😂😂😂
Back in the late 70s, when I started going to movies on my own, I recall two elderly ladies sitting behind me and talking to each other throughout a film - explaining to each other what was happening. This happened to me more than once, and I became convinced it was the same two old ladies every time. I like to think that those same two old ladies were haunting your cinema, which might explain the Nosferatu reference.
A horror fan watching a horror movie alone in a sinister cinema seems like a pretty good premise for a horror movie (perhaps with two elderly vampire ghost ladies sitting in the row behind...)
The vampire ladies walked out as I was getting my Abigail ticket, fortunately.
It’s very heartening how well Civil War has done in the current scene of superheroes and tired IP exploitation, enjoyed hugely. Abigail was very entertaining as well.
I loved that Civil War was a love letter to journalism, too.
I imagined you using the Voice yelling "Silence!" Muadib style at those old ladies 😅
That's pretty much it. I didn't have the Gom Jabbar with me so I couldn't stick their heads in it.
Glad you had a great day and enjoyed two movies. Thanks for sharing.
My pleasure. It was a great day.
as for having a small (and art deco!) cinema all to yourself to watch a horror film?? perfect!! saw the trailer for "Abigail" when i went and saw "Late Night with the Devil", but you've done more to make me want to see it than that did. my recent excursion to an actual cinema wasn't too bad (Adelaide Palace Nova) but i'd forgotten just how many ads there were- 3 movie trailers and what felt like 15 or so adverts! Having been spoilt by streaming services and an extensive disc collection, I'd completely forgotten about this particular horror- previously I'd had the sense to ask staff "What time does the Actual movie start?" and so would come in just as the last ad was finishing. Going into a movie having had one's ears, eyes and brain blasted by blatantly cheap capitalistic PR had me feeling irritated and unprepared for the film itself! but it did make me think that perhaps "Late Night with the Devil" missed an opportunity within its own universe, and that was to place purpose-built ad-breaks, akin to those Rodrigues and Tarantino (et al) created for their Grindhouse double.
The Star doesn't have ads. It has a five minute documentary about some community thing in the local area, a couple of trailers then the film. So much better than all the ads for things I'd never buy.
I really want to see Abigail, and may actually see it at the theater this weekend rather than wait for it to come to streaming. Hopefully I wont have to deal with two old ladies. As for Civil War, I can wait and see it when it streams. Who knows, before that happens we may actually be in a civil war before it streams.
Let's hope not.
The one that gets me is that the psycho murdering soldier is played by the husband of the star-You find yourself wondering if Dunst isn't trying to tell him something! 😂
Jessie Plemmons stepped in because the actor they hired dropped out at the very last minute. He was available and nailed the role because he's THAT good.
@@terrytalksmovies - oh, so it literally was "We need somebody, quick! Who's that pasty-faced redhead with all the zits? He'll do!"
"Alex, that's my HUSBAND-he's just here to spend some time with me-"
"Good enough! Get him a gun and a uniform!"
I look at Kirsten Dunst, I look at Jesse Plemons, and I feel like that British Customs guy hassling John Krasinski who finds out he's married to Emily Blunt(!).
I really enjoyed Abigail. In fact I’ve had a rekindling of horror love the last few months with the Last Omen, Late Night and Abigail
Also taking my son through the Nightmare On Elm Streets
Great video again Terry
Thanks Derek. Have you checked out Late Night With The Devil? Worth it.
Nothing beats a solo cinema screening. Often have the Hoyts at Docklands to myself.
I never liked Divorcelands even when we worked there. 😉😀
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I really like Alex Garlands film output. He's never perfect but always interesting and taking chances. I'm looking forward to seeing Civil War. Great review Terry. cheers
Thanks, Tristan! 😀
I had an identical experience last year going to see The Royal Hotel, two old ladies gum-banging in the back row. I haven't seen either of those films yet but may catch up soon. Good enough for the collection is my highest praise as well.
The old ladies were very self-focused.
Both _Civil War_ and _Abigail_ sound like they will be well worth watching.
You mentioned a judging criterion of "will I buy it on physical media?" This reminded me of the CZcams movie reviewer Jeremy Jahns, whose 2nd highest rating is "worth buying on blue-ray". (I think he started using that before 4k was a common format.) He doesn't like giving star ratings, so his ratings range from "Awesometacular" to "Dogshit". He has 4 levels in between.
I'm still working on a ratings system. CW and Abigail have the virtue of being made by intelligent film-makers who aren't just out for the bucks.
I like the idea of rating the film by whether you want to get a digital copy of it. That's one of my criteria on how much I like a movie as well.
It's a simple binary system.
Alex Garland is Good value with just about everything he's done so far. "Devs" is definitely worth a look and i really hope it will be put out on disc. "Civil War" sounds fun (if something that feels like it's happening right now- in the worst way- can be described as Fun!) but it also sounds a Lot like the excellent and hard to find black comedy/drama by Joe Dante, called "The 2nd Civil War" (from 1997) which they no doubt saw and drew some inspiration from. Also, if you haven't already seen it or done a "Joe Dante Special" he often put progressive politics into his work as evidenced by his episodes for the "Masters of Horror" Series, with "The Screwfly Solution" and "Homecoming"
Joe Dante is always good value and his leftie credentials are solid.
Sounds like a wonderful day spent At The Movies, and two good films no less. I have been hoping to see Civil War but Abigail sounds great as well, so I'm glad you liked them both (I put some value in your opinions, as long as they agree with mine).
Both are great entertainments. I don't expect my viewers to agree with me on all movies. To do so would put me in the head space of a cult leader, which is the last thing I want. 😀
A beautiful Art Deco theater I will be clipping and posting a picture of it.
The Star keeps impressing me. There's even an attached book shop with a walk through door from the cinema lobby.
I shall be seeing Abigail this weekend. After your review I will be really looking forward to it.
It's fun with a lot of gooey gore and some quite well drawn and acted characters. Go for it.
I saw Civil War and I thought it was a great movie, thankfully, not the kind of film suggested by the trailer. As someone who has covered many, many conflict situations photographically, it really conveys the visceral sensation if being in somewhere dangerous.
Yep. Alex Garland's father was a journalist and he grew up with combat photographers and journos. The final battle to get to the White House was a great piece of film-making. Even in the chaos, we had a clear idea of what exactly was happening.
@@terrytalksmovies That last scene is truy great just see The work of Don McCullin in Hue, Vietnam for similar real life examples.
The movie seemed to have a vibe of Michael Herr's Dispatches and Loyd's My War Gone By, I Miss It So.
Your cinema looks like the Dr Phibes set.
The Sun Theatre is fantastic. It's offcially my favourite fleapit in Melbourne. I love it.
The woman that I love. Only met a few months ago
Groovy. Congrats!
I often go to early weekday shows where it's just me and maybe 3 or 4 others. I used to like big raucous crowds on opening day but not so much any more. I went to see Civil War and in some synchronicity, 2 old men in my row talked during the film. Mostly asking the other "what did he say?" or "what just happened?" I let it go as it wasn't too loud but I did give them a little piece of my mind after. They said nothing and left, either they couldn't understand me or were a bit guilty. Hmmm now I feel bad. Anyway, Civil War was very good. I did think Hitler in the Bunker at the end. I felt how Dunst's character ended up was a little cliche. Here everyone's arguing about that maybe Garland should have gone more political, that it is a leftist film due to a few references here and there. No one thinks Texas and California could make an alliance but stranger things have happened. Maybe I'll check out Abigail if I get the chance.
The point of the Dunst character's ending is that Jessie got the shot.
@@terrytalksmovies OK, I saw it as a sacrifice, then mentor for the student.
Terry: I too decided to go to the cinema to catch “Civil War” at the first showing. I too experienced an empty theater…except for the chatty senior women. What’s up with that?
I found the film unsettling at almost every turn. From commentary about American society to the desensitization of the protagonists and their dogged quest (at any cost) to capture “the story”. A lot of bang-for-your buck for a modest budget…not unlike Godzilla:Minus One. Good film can be made without spending obscene amounts of money!
CW is deeply disturbing and rightly so. I doubt if anything that happened in that movie hasn't happened in another civil war somewhere else.
I just hope the girl likes it as well. She said she likes horror.
Which girl?
Abigail was pretty good, although M3gan was a much better dancer. Also, interesting to see Ireland in the club of Other Countries pretending to be somewhere in North America for tax and budget purposes.
Yep. We get that here, too, Steve. Melbourne as NYC, my 'hood substituting for Texas in Ghost Rider, all the weird things movie companies do for tax breaks.
A lot of American critics are really getting down on this movie for not being more specifically about Trump- I think they'd be happier if it was set in Whathefuckistan, because then they wouldn't be trying to graft current affairs onto it so hard.
Raquel and I liked it a lot, though of course there were a few little things that bothered me - like Jessie using film, and my wondering how she replenished it given that by the end of the movie, she was shooting everything that moved! I also kind of wished the film hadn't ended quite the way it ended, because it was exactly how you expected it to end.
I'd be surprised if she shot more than 36 shots in the climax of the film.