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  • Did you know I've made over 800+ other videos on CZcams? Hit that SUBSCRIBE button and watch another Barnacules Nerdgasm video right after this one! 🍿 Microsoft recently announced a new Windows SKU called Windows 10 S edition (Windows RT 2.0). This new version of Windows 10 restricts the user to only apps installed through the Microsoft Store and imposes other limitations like only being able to use EDGE as your default browser and you're forced to use BING as your search engine. Let's explore why this is wrong and what they are really trying to do which is to reboot Windows RT and force people to use only their services and approved software.
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  • @Barnacules
    @Barnacules  Pƙed 7 lety +620

    I really hope you guys enjoyed this video and are looking forward to more great content. If you guys want to become my boss please consider joining my Patreon. It's a cheap and very effective way to help sustain the channel while also getting some cool perks in the process. Check it out and feel free to leave a message even if you don't become a Patron @ patreon.com/barnacules

    • @noahhemmelgarn4548
      @noahhemmelgarn4548 Pƙed 7 lety +20

      Jerry keep on making videos buddy your one of the coolest youtober's EVER!

    • @Barnacules
      @Barnacules  Pƙed 7 lety +17

      Thank you so much

    • @superohiobros.8040
      @superohiobros.8040 Pƙed 7 lety +3

      He's not one of the coolest youtubers @legonoahman, he IS the coolest! He's going to keep it real always; glad to see you back at it Jerry! :D

    • @sachumo
      @sachumo Pƙed 7 lety +2

      Another fantastic video.

    • @bryceplayz5312
      @bryceplayz5312 Pƙed 7 lety +1

      Barnacules Nerdgasm umm why dud Windows come out with a new version then cash cows lol!

  • @v3zMedia
    @v3zMedia Pƙed 7 lety +584

    Windows 10 S = Windows 10 Store

  • @Cuberates
    @Cuberates Pƙed 7 lety +76

    Laptop is on a table
    Laptop runs Windows 10 S
    Laptop is now on the floor

  • @injamamulhaqueemon455
    @injamamulhaqueemon455 Pƙed 7 lety +115

    Why Do I need Windows 10 when I have Windows 98 !?!?!?

  • @johnmartin2518
    @johnmartin2518 Pƙed 7 lety +13

    Bottom line on all of this, this is MS's way of trying to keep Windows relevant and their cash cow. This started way back with the birth of the internet, and the fact that a lot of people were no longer going to the store and buying physical copies of Windows/MS software; I look at this the same way I look at their service agreements for the older versions of Windows. Working in tech support for several years (H&R Block, Sprint), I saw plenty of offices that wouldn't upgrade, both because of cost, and the hassle of learning new steps for doing the same thing that they could do with the older systems. If MS wants to kill Windows off, this is a good way of doing it.

  • @mustangeek
    @mustangeek Pƙed 7 lety +48

    I'm one step closer to start using Linux.

    • @snooze8371
      @snooze8371 Pƙed 7 lety +5

      It's not buggy dude.It really depends on what you use it for.Linux is great for consuming content(browsing,games available for linux via steam and open-source games,videos,music,images),great for programming , great for DIY projects , great for servers.Linux is bad for content creation at the moment, but it gets better every year. It can be buggy if you use apps via wine but I usually find it very stable for native apps.

    • @davidpodeszwa7010
      @davidpodeszwa7010 Pƙed 7 lety

      Just because they released the system nobody forces you to use and everyone will forgot about it ?

    • @Stevenx01
      @Stevenx01 Pƙed 7 lety +2

      A friend of mine needed a new pc, she just browses Internet, and write something down... I've built up a cheap, low-power pc and installed Ubuntu on it. After 2 months she's pretty enjoying it.
      No continuous restarts, no viruses, no other harassment. And it's free (money) and free (open).

    • @rbaleksandar
      @rbaleksandar Pƙed 7 lety

      You do know that whenever you go with the good old "Your spelling is shit" you have lost the argument, don't you? :D

  • @andreisabe
    @andreisabe Pƙed 7 lety +437

    My hate for the new Microsoft increases every day.

    • @TheAtqthe30th
      @TheAtqthe30th Pƙed 7 lety +5

      andreisabe I want to get the Enterprise edition or the China version, won't have spyware lol

    • @chungisyoung4good
      @chungisyoung4good Pƙed 7 lety +5

      There's no guarantee that China won't be watching you instead of Microsoft.

    • @arachnidaaa
      @arachnidaaa Pƙed 7 lety +3

      andreisabe Omg i swear to god Microsoft is just one step closer of being the worst tech company in whole planet. i just heard about the Win10 S event and after watching this video MS is doing a lot of bullshit God bless Satya!

    • @trinitysingularityzombiech7836
      @trinitysingularityzombiech7836 Pƙed 7 lety +2

      andreisabe I'm loving the new Microsoft!

    • @clayharned2745
      @clayharned2745 Pƙed 7 lety +4

      lol "new"

  • @NineS5
    @NineS5 Pƙed 7 lety +47

    Windows 10 Safemode Edition.

  • @aychtooo3981
    @aychtooo3981 Pƙed 7 lety +18

    Is it possible a student can errase the OS, change it to linux and walk up to the teacher and tell them "my computer was upgraded to Linux"

    • @czdaniel1
      @czdaniel1 Pƙed 7 lety +2

      Any student should probably do that anyway with any school-issued laptop. The case: Robbins vs Lower Merion School District, centered around school district employees remotely turning on the cameras of school issued laptops and snapping a few hundred-thousand pics of kids at home using the covert remote-surveillance program included in the theft-protection software suite the school district installed on the Macbooks issued to students.

    • @2xsaiko
      @2xsaiko Pƙed 7 lety +2

      yeah any laptop that isn't mine if i have it for a longer amount of time first thing I do is tape the camera

    • @negativeenergy6405
      @negativeenergy6405 Pƙed 7 lety +1

      just use a live usb, scare the shit out of them.

  • @davidtoddhoward
    @davidtoddhoward Pƙed 7 lety +56

    Oh my god!! To be stuck with Edge and Bing!! What fresh hell is this?! 😣 I like a good rant, but this was educational too. Thanks Jerry

    • @Stettafire
      @Stettafire Pƙed 7 lety +6

      Without Chrome I would last a total of five seconds before throwing the machine out the window.

    • @FireBull3tz
      @FireBull3tz Pƙed 7 lety

      Edge is actually better for laptops as it conserves more battery power - plus it's almost as fast as Chrome, you can check out speed comparisons..
      And why would you be stuck with Bing? You can always change your default search engine.
      Goddamn chaps with their tinfoil hats complaining about everything Microsoft without basic computer knowledge.

    • @Stettafire
      @Stettafire Pƙed 7 lety +1

      +Brian Bass My biggest problem with Edge is the interface. It's just personal preference I like my interface in a certain way so I can navigate my screen faster. I can operate chrome without looking at my screen since my common activities are basically habit at this point. I don't have anything against people using Edge, but personally I'd rather use Chrome.

    • @FireBull3tz
      @FireBull3tz Pƙed 7 lety +1

      That makes sense, that's just personal habit. Presuming you have at least tried Edge.
      But tbh. it was also more aimed at Todd who make it sound like you have to be stuck with Bing.

    • @davidtoddhoward
      @davidtoddhoward Pƙed 7 lety +1

      Just going on what Jerry reported, that with Edge on Windows 10 S edition you can't change the default the search engine like you can on other editions of Win 10. I may be wrong, and I'm ready to stand corrected if I misunderstood Jerry's point!

  • @chinmaygupta1530
    @chinmaygupta1530 Pƙed 7 lety +23

    I liked this video as soon as I heard the "HEY!!! whats up guys jerry here aka barancules..."

  • @sayeedmahmud335
    @sayeedmahmud335 Pƙed 7 lety +10

    I don't understand why a Company like Microsoft can't release a well polished OS, they made a legendary OS like Windows 7. And now with so much experience they make buggy & shitty OS like win_10. Even after almost two years they still can't remove the bugs. My many files got corrupted after installing the w_10 Creator Update, system crashed. Holy s*** :(

    • @dragonbreak3360
      @dragonbreak3360 Pƙed 5 lety +1

      Man... Buy windows Pro, turn off the updates
      DONE
      YOU"RE HAPPY
      (Btw i use Windows Enterprice :P )

  • @x_rod
    @x_rod Pƙed 7 lety +40

    Windows 10 $

  • @CosmicKangaroo
    @CosmicKangaroo Pƙed 7 lety +41

    It should be Windows 10 Basic instead of Windows 10 S
    Using Basic will be more in line with their versions (Windows 10 Home, Windows 10 Pro) and it conveys that it can be used for lower end hardware.

    • @user-fc4so8of8o
      @user-fc4so8of8o Pƙed 7 lety +6

      I think it's for Starter as windows 7 had a starter version too

    • @nakyer
      @nakyer Pƙed 7 lety

      +*CosmicKoala*
      "A rose by any other name..."
      We all know what it is.

    • @nakyer
      @nakyer Pƙed 7 lety +2

      +*Julian H*
      I think "S" stands for "student". It's being presented as meant for educational environments.

    • @user-yw8sr3uj1w
      @user-yw8sr3uj1w Pƙed 7 lety +2

      CosmicKoala I think the 's' stands for shit.

    • @jordanahern958
      @jordanahern958 Pƙed 7 lety

      CosmicKoala gfgf

  • @kubrix1222
    @kubrix1222 Pƙed 7 lety +157

    Never use Norton AV. Your PC will run from day 1 like it was day 2000.

    • @MrOpenGL
      @MrOpenGL Pƙed 7 lety +3

      SEP is actually quite lightweight in my opinion, since I am running it right now on a HP Compaq with 1,5GHz Pentium M and 768MB of RAM, and it uses only 98MB of RAM (reduced size definitions).
      It's not invasive and harsh in my opinion, once you have set it up the way you want it it just does what you want it to do. Best antivirus I've ever used, and best 60€ ever spent :-)
      Norton Internet Security is not secure at all, drains at least 1GB of RAM and bugs you like hell.
      I think you might have confused the two...

    • @OtherTheDave
      @OtherTheDave Pƙed 7 lety +6

      kubrix1222 Norton Internet Security made a friend's PC take something like 15 minutes to *boot*. I switched him to MS's security software and everything went back to normal.

    • @connorfarley8113
      @connorfarley8113 Pƙed 7 lety +1

      I'm running Norton :/ Makes no difference compared to when I didn't have it on here... Stop spreading bullshit :/

    • @helloidontknow
      @helloidontknow Pƙed 7 lety +2

      my high school uses Norton and it is shit

    • @technologyproductions-ye3px
      @technologyproductions-ye3px Pƙed 7 lety +1

      why do people hate Norton anti virus

  • @Synthcave
    @Synthcave Pƙed 7 lety +1

    "alright guys, iam sorry this video was not supposed to be this long"
    Are you kidding me? WE LOVE LONG VIDEOS!!!

  • @Complex11
    @Complex11 Pƙed 5 lety +3

    could you uninstall the storage drive, wipe it and redownload a unactivated version of full windows 10

    • @DyNastyGnome363
      @DyNastyGnome363 Pƙed 5 lety

      You can turn off S mode. At least on my laptop you can. Just search CZcams for turning S mode off on windows.

  • @TechXSoftware
    @TechXSoftware Pƙed 7 lety +58

    Its a Windows RT reboot

    • @Barnacules
      @Barnacules  Pƙed 7 lety +20

      +TechXSoftware yup

    • @EngineeringVignettes
      @EngineeringVignettes Pƙed 7 lety +1

      TechXSoftware - RT does live on in a fashion... it is available as an OS on the ARM based Raspberry Pi for some years now.
      - Eddy

    • @slobooger
      @slobooger Pƙed 7 lety +1

      TechXSoftware I thought m$ quit supporting it.....

    • @hellterminator
      @hellterminator Pƙed 7 lety +1

      Windows RT at least made sense a little bit-there were no Win32 programs compiled for ARM.

    • @majorlanguid
      @majorlanguid Pƙed 7 lety +1

      TechXSoftware Oh good job you repeated what he said.

  • @kmeleon33
    @kmeleon33 Pƙed 7 lety +107

    Windows10 Slave? ( to Microsoft Store).

  • @toasterusedfly
    @toasterusedfly Pƙed 7 lety +5

    Meanwhile, Microsoft is happy about Windows 10 Lockdown Edition but everyone hates it.
    Meanwhile, Apple is just chillin'.
    Meanwhile, Linux is at the north pole eating some ice cream.

    • @yellovalvulator3244
      @yellovalvulator3244 Pƙed 7 lety +1

      p.s linux and apple suck assapple more than linux but microsoft is just making some sissy OS no one wants to use

  • @numinous4789
    @numinous4789 Pƙed 7 lety +3

    Crap like this is why I'm happy staying with Windows 7. I know I'm several generations behind, but it does everything I need it to well. I saw this exclusivity/user-controlling strategy coming. Microsoft, you need to knock it off. I'll bet they're data mining way more with this new turn of events, just like Facebook and other web-based applications are too.

  • @scottpollier
    @scottpollier Pƙed 7 lety +53

    Barnacules fanboy here, what's up early birds?😎

  • @jfraser3
    @jfraser3 Pƙed 7 lety +132

    they should of called it Windows 10 C (CRAP)

    • @RyanCanning
      @RyanCanning Pƙed 7 lety +25

      well maybe the S stands for shit

    • @Seriewoordenaar0229
      @Seriewoordenaar0229 Pƙed 7 lety

      Jij moet godverdomme je kroket bakkes houden. Ga lekker in je frituurpan liggen en verzuipen ofzo!

    • @Geny
      @Geny Pƙed 7 lety

      Lekker volwassen dit

    • @Geny
      @Geny Pƙed 7 lety

      SirCodeye BOII I can still see your "KitPVP" playlist

    • @Ray-dx2pf
      @Ray-dx2pf Pƙed 7 lety

      Or just keep it the way it is and call in Windows shit.

  • @TheCludo
    @TheCludo Pƙed 7 lety +52

    So Microsoft is the empire now, Apple the resistance and Linux are the Jedi

    • @Zeriel00
      @Zeriel00 Pƙed 6 lety +4

      More like Apple is Palpatine, Windows is Snoke and Linux is Lando x__x

    • @marshalcraft
      @marshalcraft Pƙed 6 lety +5

      Not at all, apple is infinite time more evil. Microsoft lets you use any hardware with it. Apple everything is designed to make you stick with apple stickered prodcuts which cost more.

    • @Knute360cool
      @Knute360cool Pƙed 6 lety +1

      So true, at least the Mac and Linux can run... 3rd party programs. Google Chrome? NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN

    • @hasan_z
      @hasan_z Pƙed 6 lety +1

      Not really, Microsoft is trying to copy Apple's model of shitty restrictive software,

    • @kaplislemesis4789
      @kaplislemesis4789 Pƙed 6 lety

      I dont see much difference between all of these. Other than the real Unix systems that are full Open source.

  • @chuck12-82
    @chuck12-82 Pƙed 7 lety +23

    Buy that cheap computer and install Linux over the 10S....

    • @edgara9316
      @edgara9316 Pƙed 5 lety +4

      You couldn’t even do that cause you can’t install something from the browser it’d have to be from the store

    • @markusTegelane
      @markusTegelane Pƙed 3 lety +1

      @@edgara9316 You can use another computer to make a bootable USB and boot into it by holding shift while clicking "Restart" in the start menu and when the advanced options menu pops up, select the option to boot from USB. This bypasses any W10S limitations. This works for any distro that has support for secure boot (such as distros that use Ubuntu and Fedora as their base). For others, you need to disable secure boot in the BIOS, which is a bit more involved.

    • @amberclad3412
      @amberclad3412 Pƙed 2 lety

      Buy that cheap computer and install Regular Windows 10 over Linus or 10S

  • @Kevin_Eder
    @Kevin_Eder Pƙed 7 lety +41

    Didn't MS get fined by the EU for bundling IE because it was anti-competitive?

    • @Stettafire
      @Stettafire Pƙed 7 lety +9

      In fact, this is the reason why for the a long time IE had a 'choose your browser' dialogue when you first started up IE. It as an attempt by microsoft to avoid accusations (or at least that's what my computing tutor told me at college:P)

    • @TwstedTV
      @TwstedTV Pƙed 7 lety +1

      microsoft made an argument that apple restricts people to Safari and on and on they went when arguing with the EU.
      Microsoft even threaten that if the EU fined microsoft for it, that microsoft would not sell their products to the EU any longer, just so it wouldn't be confined to the EU laws.

  • @XDeminox
    @XDeminox Pƙed 7 lety +17

    I wouldn't call Win10 "light". My HDD usage is always at 100%. Just sitting there. And we're talking clean boots with no software installed. Microsoft deflects this all the time. "its your antivirus" "its adobe" "its whatever thing we want to tell you it is". Drive health is perfect though, pop any other OS on it and its smooth.

    • @wills.8662
      @wills.8662 Pƙed 7 lety +3

      Brian Preston it's copying all your pr0n to NSA servers

    • @XDeminox
      @XDeminox Pƙed 7 lety +5

      Will S. dude no I already store that on all my clouds services with an air-tight password of 1-2-3-4-5. .. the same password I use on my luggage.

    • @JeradBenge
      @JeradBenge Pƙed 7 lety +10

      Dude... You gotta capitalize at least one of the numbers. That's like way more secure.

    • @wills.8662
      @wills.8662 Pƙed 7 lety +1

      Brian Preston that's old school I use the far superior password of q w e r t y. And for my luggage 5 4 3 2 1. Gotta get with current stronk passwords

    • @fablungo
      @fablungo Pƙed 7 lety

      let me guess, do you have a spinning disk? when I was still using Windows (Windows 8) I found that they must be optimising their services for SSDs, in particular the file indexing services. Have a search for how to disable the windows indexing services and see if that helps.... or give Linux a go :P

  • @warhammernerd52Daxx-Lorenzo898

    I had a bit of a scare earlier today when Bitdifender updated, a window was already popped up saying something about an account which I have no idea what it was, something about One Drive. anyway, at the bottom there were these mysterious two icons, one was Mail, one was App Store, internet explorer was there as well. to the left half of my screen were nothing, except icons for things. I restarted and everything left and right halves was back to how it was (those two icons were gone) I'm sure this, whatever it was, will not come back.
    I've no idea what caused this

  • @MrNdhlovu
    @MrNdhlovu Pƙed 7 lety +2

    Thank you for taking the time out to inform us, I appreciate your efforts. You rock!

  • @KENDRAPR1
    @KENDRAPR1 Pƙed 7 lety +63

    Microsoft WTF Are You Doing

    • @yazmo109
      @yazmo109 Pƙed 7 lety +7

      they just trying to do like apple lol

    • @Paultimate7
      @Paultimate7 Pƙed 7 lety

      Apple doesn't do this shit.

    • @macgyver9134
      @macgyver9134 Pƙed 7 lety +2

      apple doesn't restrict their users to only download apps from their store, or make you buy additional software just so you can run apps you want on their pc's? That's what apple is the most famous for...

  • @hitman74
    @hitman74 Pƙed 7 lety +41

    i like pissed off jerry make more videos like this do ios and android next

  • @ElectricityTaster
    @ElectricityTaster Pƙed 7 lety +1

    -Wants kids at school to not look at porn.
    -Sets Bing as default.
    TOP LEL

  • @andrew_cole
    @andrew_cole Pƙed 6 lety +1

    Edit: they release every new device that would have win10s with a home edition in "S-mode". Upon further research, you can turn this off for free. Guess we haven't lost hope with MS Yet

  • @aidan7913
    @aidan7913 Pƙed 7 lety +36

    That is why Linux exists. LONG LIVE OPEN SOURCE!!!!!!!

    • @Catsrules1
      @Catsrules1 Pƙed 7 lety +2

      The question is how locked down will these cheap windows 10S laptops be? If they are anything like Chromebooks it might be hard to install linux on there :(

    • @aidan7913
      @aidan7913 Pƙed 7 lety +2

      yeah, i hope not.

    • @aidan7913
      @aidan7913 Pƙed 7 lety +3

      Because, then it would be more worth it to buy a Chromebook, because you can install ubuntu on it,

    • @djsensacion7
      @djsensacion7 Pƙed 7 lety

      I'd like to get a hold of one of these, and try to run Linux on it

  • @jonilaht
    @jonilaht Pƙed 7 lety +81

    A. If you buy Surface Laptop, you can upgrade to Win10 pro for free until the end of the year.
    B. If something you bought from the store is removed, I think you still can download it again. MS already does this on Xbox. Some games are removed from the store, but you can still download them if you bought them.
    C. Most parents/teachers have no clue what or how group policies work
    D. Yes, Windows 10 S sucks
    My two cents...

    • @al_exs
      @al_exs Pƙed 7 lety +7

      jonilaht C.- If it's "targeted" to education, it doesn't work that well if ther restricted all apps but the store ones. Any school that have more than 20 computers, the IT need to know what they do.
      In my University the technician have near 300 computers to support, and with different versions of Windows, and he have the policies to block all software to execute except the ones the teachers tell him to allow, that includes allow the programs made by the students but not some random downloaded​ program. If the thing of W10S is that strict, then that means you can't even run your own compiled code, if not, then it have flaws.. in any case, the mere concept of W10S is shit.

    • @Barnacules
      @Barnacules  Pƙed 7 lety +10

      Thanks for sharing, all good points!

    • @redgold196
      @redgold196 Pƙed 7 lety +8

      Use Linux

    • @GeminiBodyshop
      @GeminiBodyshop Pƙed 7 lety

      its only restricted if you want it to be free to upgrade to 10 pro don't believe fake news

    • @Fosi94
      @Fosi94 Pƙed 7 lety

      Windows 10 is amazing once you have solved the privacy issues a little bit, come on man.

  • @emsicz
    @emsicz Pƙed 7 lety

    A fellow dev here.. Barnacules, you should make a video about what it is to actually publish legacy app in Windows Store. This was a big feat when they were launching, they were extremely proud and loud to announce that Windows Store will support publishing old apps. And so I tried. Long story short, I ended up writing a 5 page manual on how to do it that takes "only" about 3 days of time to go through and guess what. Microsoft headquarters in my country actually used that to send out to developers of companies Microsoft bribed to publish their legacy apps on Microsoft Store.

  • @sbinnala5769
    @sbinnala5769 Pƙed 7 lety

    +Barnacules Nerdgasm Here's the thing: you can already restrict Windows 10 and 10 Pro to just install and run apps from the store. Under Settings > Apps > Apps & features, there's a drop down box under the "Installing Apps" section which allows you to choose from 3 options: Allow apps from anywhere, Warn me before installing apps from outside the Store, Allow apps from the Store only. There is literally no reason for Windows 10 S to exist.

  • @korbendallas1956
    @korbendallas1956 Pƙed 7 lety +34

    I just got a text from a friend of mine with this video in it. He wants me to help him put Linux Mint on every PC in his charter school's computer labs this weekend. Thanks, Micro$oft!

    • @computethis7128
      @computethis7128 Pƙed 7 lety +2

      Korben Dallas I love mint

    • @clayharned2745
      @clayharned2745 Pƙed 7 lety

      yah spearmint is the best, always get that flavor for my toothpaste

    • @computethis7128
      @computethis7128 Pƙed 7 lety +1

      AAABattery please tell me that was a joke

    • @clayharned2745
      @clayharned2745 Pƙed 7 lety +1

      Why, do you not like spearmint? You one of those peppermint freaks?

    • @computethis7128
      @computethis7128 Pƙed 7 lety

      AAABattery I like both. but Linux mint is an operating system. I said I like mint meanting the operating system. but my fav mints are the weak ones and I like a chewy mint not a hard xtra strong one.

  • @benlaing360
    @benlaing360 Pƙed 7 lety +41

    Is this what Gabe Newell was talking about a few months back? I seem to recall something about him saying Microsoft are attempting to lock out competitors. I can't quite remember now, can anyone remind me?

    • @acorad30
      @acorad30 Pƙed 7 lety

      Ben Laing gaben is our god

    • @NZIGNANTI
      @NZIGNANTI Pƙed 7 lety +2

      Ben Laing Blessed Newell Save Us!

    • @NZIGNANTI
      @NZIGNANTI Pƙed 7 lety +13

      The prophecy was true, may the Steam of Valve watch o'er us all.

    • @vatsalpanchal6808
      @vatsalpanchal6808 Pƙed 7 lety +10

      It was Tim Sweeney.

    • @blankxx0009
      @blankxx0009 Pƙed 7 lety

      people worshipping gabe newell are like those who worship the ceo of mcdonalds or walmart. idiots.

  • @defy170
    @defy170 Pƙed 7 lety +1

    Microsoft was like,
    "Now you can't bitch this baby down bruh!"
    And they were like,
    "Whats with your store then? Theres like porn, you're bitching it yourselves."

  • @busterscruggs_sc
    @busterscruggs_sc Pƙed 7 lety +1

    Jerry this is the stuff that will get you more subscribers. Keep sticking with stuff you are really knowledgeable about, it makes your channel unique.

  • @powerplayer75
    @powerplayer75 Pƙed 7 lety +15

    Apple: Weve released an underpowered, overpriced laptop for $4000.
    Microsoft: Is that a challenge?

    • @mr_s3v7n
      @mr_s3v7n Pƙed 7 lety +1

      Microsoft: hold my beer

  • @daoneTM
    @daoneTM Pƙed 7 lety +49

    Jerry can you do a one month GNU/Linux challange?

    • @Sithhy
      @Sithhy Pƙed 7 lety +7

      He probably would, but not on his PC...

    • @nykachuu
      @nykachuu Pƙed 7 lety +1

      he likes adobe

  • @nickldominator
    @nickldominator Pƙed 7 lety

    Couple notes:
    1. Iphone's, ipad's and the like are ALSO ARM devices. Apple license's from ARM to make their 'own' processors. Still ARM arch though.
    2. Android doesn't quite suffer from that same store issue. If a developer pulls an app from the store, and you had it already installed, it stays on your device. Only change is you can't go to the store and download it again. Good thing you can just download an APK extractor and put the app on any device you want (that you own of course) ;)

  • @kuhrd
    @kuhrd Pƙed 7 lety

    As an educator, the first thing that gets disabled and blocked by the network firewall is the windows store. There is not one app in the windows store that I feel is needed, necessary or beneficial.

  • @nielsblankenstijn6854
    @nielsblankenstijn6854 Pƙed 7 lety +193

    Windows 10 S(hit Edition)....

    • @FlintG
      @FlintG Pƙed 7 lety +9

      I agree.

    • @sersoft_corp
      @sersoft_corp Pƙed 7 lety +3

      but only Microsoft's shit... please?

    • @jfp589
      @jfp589 Pƙed 7 lety

      fucking christ i cant even use apps from the internet

    • @MsHojat
      @MsHojat Pƙed 7 lety

      It'll be a hit!

    • @billyhatcher643
      @billyhatcher643 Pƙed 7 lety +4

      this is why windows 10 sucks balls and im using a better os windows 7 its way better and i get to use everything on it

  • @mightylink65
    @mightylink65 Pƙed 7 lety +57

    Microsoft still not giving me a reason to upgrade from Windows 7...

    • @hycron1234
      @hycron1234 Pƙed 7 lety +3

      Windows 7 still does everything I need it to do.

    • @Davidratcliff9133
      @Davidratcliff9133 Pƙed 7 lety

      Exactly!

    • @radekrutkowski1389
      @radekrutkowski1389 Pƙed 7 lety +4

      8.1 is actually cool. I've been using 7 for 7 years, jumped on 8.1 and happy. Plus I'm covered until 2023.

    • @ElmerFuddGun
      @ElmerFuddGun Pƙed 7 lety +7

      There isn't an "upgrade from Windows 7"! That's it. Everything new is a downgrade. 7 is the last good OS. There is a reason ~50% of computers are still using it.

    • @litchtheshinigami8936
      @litchtheshinigami8936 Pƙed 7 lety

      Mightylink well i have the regular windows 10 even though my pc isn't working right now... but it like happened in two days.. i didn't update or anything so it can't be that..

  • @Noah_7s
    @Noah_7s Pƙed 7 lety +3

    so what about people that record gameplay videos and edit on your pc or even make thumbnails for video with photoshop so can you not do this on windows 10 s any more

    • @Noah_7s
      @Noah_7s Pƙed 7 lety +1

      1 more question what about if you have something downloaded on your pc than you upgrade will it delete those programs off your pc

    • @Architector_4
      @Architector_4 Pƙed 7 lety

      You can't use photoshop for video thumbnails, but I'm pretty sure that MS Paint or other store tools can get you covered well. Maybe there are also video recording programs in the store, who knows.

  • @lance_nickel
    @lance_nickel Pƙed 7 lety

    Also, on the Microsoft Windows page, the operating systems are listed in order from left to right: Windows 10 Home, Windows 10 S, Windows 10 Pro.
    Some users will read from left to right and just because of the order feel that Windows 10 S is better than home.

  • @Pile_of_carbon
    @Pile_of_carbon Pƙed 7 lety +23

    Microsoft has become the very definition of corporate greed.

    • @ikickss
      @ikickss Pƙed 7 lety

      "became"???? It was that ever since it was formed.

  • @blastermaster77
    @blastermaster77 Pƙed 7 lety +290

    TIME TO EMBRACE LINUX!

    • @linuxlounge
      @linuxlounge Pƙed 7 lety +12

      BlasterGaming Exactly!

    • @hilmyakatsuki1665
      @hilmyakatsuki1665 Pƙed 7 lety +7

      yeah!

    • @estellebright2579
      @estellebright2579 Pƙed 7 lety +2

      BlasterGaming should it be "embrace"?

    • @linuxlounge
      @linuxlounge Pƙed 7 lety +5

      Estelle Bright come on don't have a go at him for spelling mistakes...

    • @Heymeit
      @Heymeit Pƙed 7 lety

      BlasterGaming a lot of servers run on centos. No one wants to sit here and ssh into a server to watch a CZcams video. Chill out.

  • @Mike-zl4zs
    @Mike-zl4zs Pƙed 7 lety

    I work in IT for a school district and it is true, we dont need the OS to be locked down, we have ways of doing it already, which definitely makes Microsoft's argument a flop at best.

  • @cesar_otoniel
    @cesar_otoniel Pƙed 5 lety +1

    1:28 Extortion?. I felt extorted when Cortana said on my first windows 10S run "You can decline the terms of service, but you know... No windows".

  • @Niktendious
    @Niktendious Pƙed 7 lety +36

    My thought and thinking for the "S" in Windows 10 S was for Student.

    • @Barnacules
      @Barnacules  Pƙed 7 lety +37

      +Nicktendious nope, it's for shit ;)

    • @muskaos
      @muskaos Pƙed 7 lety +1

      The hilarious part is MS gives away their OS and apps to CS track college students for free. Ask me how I know... :)

    • @VE7QH
      @VE7QH Pƙed 7 lety

      Nicktendious dude my school district just downgraded from 7 to 10 and didnt even bother to disable the basic tracking systems in the "privacy" settings!

    • @user-fc4so8of8o
      @user-fc4so8of8o Pƙed 7 lety

      i thought it stands for slim

    • @lentoman
      @lentoman Pƙed 7 lety +3

      Store Edition? 😏

  • @FrankOWahl
    @FrankOWahl Pƙed 7 lety +18

    I'm enjoying watching Microsoft shit on their OS and Apple neglect their hardware. I'm on a mission to install Linux on as many PC's this summer for people as I can. Microshaft is helping. :)

    • @FireBull3tz
      @FireBull3tz Pƙed 7 lety

      Because they made another version of Windows aimed at casuals/students? Ain't you a out-of-proportion guy :-)

    • @AmorrSummerstorm
      @AmorrSummerstorm Pƙed 7 lety +1

      Cole Will why the fuck any student would use this? This is like for old or brain dead

    • @FireBull3tz
      @FireBull3tz Pƙed 7 lety

      Same reason people buy Apple products I suppose?? The world do not circle around you, you know. (*meaning people ain't brain dead or old just because they don't have the same preferences as you, should you wonder)

  • @hermanmoller7630
    @hermanmoller7630 Pƙed 7 lety +41

    It's time to change to Red Star OS. I've heard that it is the best OS around.

    • @aytacofx
      @aytacofx Pƙed 7 lety +5

      Nacho Libre Let's not use the internet, let's use the bestnet @ North Korea.

    • @yellovalvulator3244
      @yellovalvulator3244 Pƙed 7 lety

      whats redstar os?

    • @hermanmoller7630
      @hermanmoller7630 Pƙed 7 lety +5

      yello valvulator It's the OS used in North Korea and is based on Linux to my knowledge.

    • @holyhelga
      @holyhelga Pƙed 7 lety

      yea red star os i have never heard of

    • @zoefiri713
      @zoefiri713 Pƙed 7 lety +4

      Yea, it's North Korea's state distributed Linux distro. It is my understanding that they actually claim it to be the invention of North Korean ingenuity from the ground up, I think it might actually just be modified Ubuntu but I'm not sure although whatever they built it off of judging by pictures and circumstances, it is probably built from a very old distribution.

  • @roberttopper2946
    @roberttopper2946 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    for anyone watching this in 2021, it can be unlocked with no cost from the activate page in a matter of seconds

  • @jacobyalfa
    @jacobyalfa Pƙed 7 lety +17

    Windows 10 S-tore ... that's it Barnacoles.

  • @GIJOE573
    @GIJOE573 Pƙed 7 lety +48

    this is the danger of a monopoly

    • @origionalwinja
      @origionalwinja Pƙed 7 lety +5

      and remember the more government we have the more likely we will have a monopoly. always vote small government, and always vote against government regulation, even if it sounds like a good idea! especially net neutrality!!

    • @toymachine4253
      @toymachine4253 Pƙed 7 lety

      And don't believe for a second that "Conservatives" are anti-regulation. It's just a question of what they want to regulate.

    • @nykachuu
      @nykachuu Pƙed 7 lety +1

      Are you a libertarian origionalwinja?

    • @billyhatcher643
      @billyhatcher643 Pƙed 7 lety +2

      yes microshit is trying to stop us from using steam all together which is pathetic this is why i game on windows 7

    • @bobtailsquid
      @bobtailsquid Pƙed 7 lety

      billyhatcher643 until they stop supporting it. And then they purposely infect your computer with malware so it slows down then when you bitch about it they will say use Windows 10

  • @cern1999sb
    @cern1999sb Pƙed 7 lety

    Publishers who want to develop on mac publish on the apple store. Publishers who want to develop on Android publish on the Google Play Store. Publishers who want to develop on Windows publish on their own webpages. This means that the overwhelming majority of applications for Windows are simply on web pages, rather than in the Windows store. Windows computers would go from having the largest pool of applications of any device, to having one of the smallest.

  • @gmoncrieff
    @gmoncrieff Pƙed 7 lety

    But IIRC correctly they showed Windows 10 S with the ability to join a domain, a feature not available in Windows 10 Home, they are offering S free to any schools with who are running Windows 10 pro. This would indicate that this isn't based on Home but rather Pro.
    I am pretty sure it was mentioned at Build that AppX packages could be distributed via the web, for those developers that didn't want to use the store.

  • @mayhem9052
    @mayhem9052 Pƙed 7 lety +43

    so basically microsoft is copying apple in a sense that money is #1 prority and actual product usability second

    • @justmi5978
      @justmi5978 Pƙed 7 lety +3

      your right but for apple they limit you to where you still can have what u need but msoft id just bullshiting on win s

    • @trinitysingularityzombiech7836
      @trinitysingularityzombiech7836 Pƙed 7 lety +1

      MAYH3M Gaming it's what the people want look at how well apple and google are doing. the more they are tied down the more people love it.

    • @josh8106
      @josh8106 Pƙed 7 lety

      At least I can run emulators on my iPhone

    • @Heymeit
      @Heymeit Pƙed 7 lety

      MAYH3M Gaming only people that want to game have a console. You are the 1% no one cares about.

    • @BirdFluJapan
      @BirdFluJapan Pƙed 7 lety +1

      Money? Puh... They want CONTROL... Not this bi-product "money" which think is all-powerful.

  • @Supergecko8
    @Supergecko8 Pƙed 7 lety +86

    So there is the possibility that one day they just decide to limit every windows 10 users like with 10 S?? No more steam?? WTF! Please keep us updated, thanks

    • @tiberius9283
      @tiberius9283 Pƙed 7 lety +1

      Yup

    • @Ownage4lif31
      @Ownage4lif31 Pƙed 7 lety

      Supergecko8 I've got my windows updates disabled. If this happens, I'm never reformatting my pc ever again

    • @bren.r
      @bren.r Pƙed 7 lety

      No, what he was explaining is that a lot of popular programs' binaries are in the x86 instruction set which isn't the nature of ARM-based CPUs. Hope this info helps.

    • @Xoremak
      @Xoremak Pƙed 7 lety +1

      Supergecko8 the only reason I'm not running Linux is because windows is better for games. if Linux can get better at running games, I will for sure make the switch to it being my main OS

    • @Supergecko8
      @Supergecko8 Pƙed 7 lety +1

      +Brendan Rosa No, he was also explaining the new strategy of Microsoft, trying to force people to use the store or in general their products. That could lead on a bad path

  • @LucasHartmann
    @LucasHartmann Pƙed 7 lety +16

    That is why piracy is still a thing... It just works...

  • @ThoughtProvokingTech
    @ThoughtProvokingTech Pƙed 7 lety

    Security researches mostly agree that running a third party anti-virus such as Norton actually makes you more vulnerable so in this regard, it's a good move.

  • @Leaderofbatz
    @Leaderofbatz Pƙed 7 lety +20

    Not even Apple is this extreme.

  • @Swearzy
    @Swearzy Pƙed 7 lety +19

    It seems like Microsoft is slowly killing themselves off :(

  • @zedlinO7
    @zedlinO7 Pƙed 7 lety +4

    If some of you want to switch to Linux, try ElementaryOS it's well designed and easy to understand !

    • @bobtailsquid
      @bobtailsquid Pƙed 7 lety +1

      ZED everyone seems to be forgetting about server 2016. Linux is better but these noobs can't be fucked at learn it

  • @Z0MGH4X
    @Z0MGH4X Pƙed 7 lety

    For the people who don't want to run Linux because it doesn't support some programs only available on Windows: there is this program called Whine that makes Linux able to run programs designed for Windows.

  • @jeis93
    @jeis93 Pƙed 7 lety +5

    I agree with your sentiments in this video, but the one thing you missed is that you can upgrade to Pro for free within a year of purchasing the laptop, and then it's $49 after that first year.

  • @SOU6900
    @SOU6900 Pƙed 7 lety +3

    So basically Microsoft is now trying to rule it's users with an iron fist. Wouldn't be surprised if they decide to force an update onto non S windows 10 OSs that basically turns it into Windows 10S.

  • @njsullyalex2744
    @njsullyalex2744 Pƙed 7 lety

    I'm a big fan of Windows 10, but with W10 S, they took out everything that made normal Windows 10 my favorite OS.

  • @MrCyberWolf202
    @MrCyberWolf202 Pƙed 7 lety

    The other day I accidentally opened Microsoft Edge on my Windows 10 Pro computer and I noticed the option to change your default search engine no longer works. Every time I try, Edge tells me "you can not change the searches engine at this time."

  • @xenicindustries9467
    @xenicindustries9467 Pƙed 7 lety +21

    This shit really fucking pisses me off. So I want to download something from the windows store. Microsoft makes me sign in.. Ok...? I'll sign in. So I sign in, It completely signs me fully into windows and uses my Microsoft account password to sign into my computer. #AnniversaryUpdateSucksDick!

    • @xenicindustries9467
      @xenicindustries9467 Pƙed 7 lety +2

      I'm really about to fucking go back to windows 8 and mod the shit out of it... This is getting out of fucking hand....

    • @joesterling4299
      @joesterling4299 Pƙed 7 lety +3

      I don't use the Windows store. Once I realized it's tied to Windows Update, I abandoned all notions of ever using it. I only enable the Windows Update and WMI services when I choose to update.

    • @nabinkhanal1179
      @nabinkhanal1179 Pƙed 7 lety

      Xenic Industries there comes a link saying sign in for just this app at the bottom

    • @MrOpenGL
      @MrOpenGL Pƙed 7 lety +1

      That happened to me to and that was enough for me to nuke Windows 10. Even though I use a Ryzen CPU I prefer staying on windows 7 and have no security updates (I just use Windows to play GTA V so no big deal, the rest I use Manjaro) than using windows 10 that pisses me off every time I have to use it.

    • @Mario583a
      @Mario583a Pƙed 7 lety +2

      But, Microsoft doesn't require you to use or make a Microsoft Account with Windows.

  • @ElectronicsForFun
    @ElectronicsForFun Pƙed 7 lety +119

    linux is looking pretty good right now.

    • @SmolaniAshki
      @SmolaniAshki Pƙed 7 lety +2

      +amcotty crosby I dual boot with Gentoo GNU/Linux (seriously, it's good. The memes don't do it justice. Shame on those memes)

    • @terrymackamckenzie6865
      @terrymackamckenzie6865 Pƙed 7 lety +2

      Mint.

    • @welp3768
      @welp3768 Pƙed 7 lety

      Pirate Win7 here. So yeah....

    • @DarkVeilGaming
      @DarkVeilGaming Pƙed 7 lety +1

      I'm just sticking with windows 7 :) Then once that runs out i'll switch to 8.1. Then hopefully at that point Linux will have enough videogames to be able to switch over lol. Plus video card drivers (proprietary ones) for linux really suck, there's still no easy way to install amd's drivers for my R9 390 in linux. :( And the open-source ones are crap for playing games that are more graphics intensive than TF2.

    • @serversC13nc3
      @serversC13nc3 Pƙed 7 lety

      I successfully installed dual boot windows 10 and kali linux with secured uefi settings turned on in single ssd of my laptop with no problem.

  • @IanLamprecht
    @IanLamprecht Pƙed 7 lety

    first think i noticed was the same background i use :) Barnacules u rock man :) greetings from South Africa :))

  • @VirgoSquawks
    @VirgoSquawks Pƙed 6 lety

    I think people are taking this the wrong way. Instead of getting mad about only using things in the store, encourage developers to get in on it!

  • @unii2504
    @unii2504 Pƙed 7 lety +5

    OMG, my dad got me a laptop for my birthday 1-3 days ago. Dang, could have been killed.

  • @TheLukemcdaniel
    @TheLukemcdaniel Pƙed 7 lety +19

    S for shit?

  • @coolvideoish
    @coolvideoish Pƙed 6 lety

    Arguably, many IT guys are incapable, and can’t implement group policy properly. I remember back in the XP days this was a very big problem, where you could circumvent the group policy by simply renaming executables, or unplugging the LAN cable during logon, to prevent scripts from running.

  • @rosspowell8695
    @rosspowell8695 Pƙed 6 lety

    In Jan 2016 the person (me) running their Ms 10 was the administrator!
    How did that change? A lot of people welcomed that choice and didn't send the computer back. Now I wish we would have.

  • @TechRunnerW175B
    @TechRunnerW175B Pƙed 7 lety +5

    So glad I'm a Linux user, Everytime I use my windows partition it's a pain to use because my workflow is so reliant on the multitude of keyboard shortcuts I have set up that Windows is just unbearable to use anymore. It also can't read my EXT4, Btrfs, and Xfs formated drives.

  • @waterbottle4782
    @waterbottle4782 Pƙed 7 lety +28

    I will just stick with GNU+Linux.

    • @tomrow32
      @tomrow32 Pƙed 6 lety

      good luck getting that to run on any hardware that comes with s

  • @parisqs
    @parisqs Pƙed 7 lety +1

    I really enjoy your animated wallpaper.

  • @alvinsrr
    @alvinsrr Pƙed 7 lety

    No objective comments. Keep up your good work. it is valuable and entertaining to watch! :)

  • @adetinu
    @adetinu Pƙed 7 lety +95

    Linux we're coming please accept us!

    • @TwstedTV
      @TwstedTV Pƙed 7 lety +2

      warning..... watch out for the linux elitist and linux forum ninja's..... they are going to be pissed linux is going to get flooded with people.
      Also be prepared to spend countless hours if not weeks sifting through forums hopelessly, just to fix a problem.
      And most of the time its really not a fix, but more of a band-aid......... that will eventually come apart, hence the rinse and repeat band-aid fix again.

    • @chaspen2843
      @chaspen2843 Pƙed 7 lety +4

      THIS.
      If you want to fix something on Windows then you have to go through countless fucking google searches and fourms and it almost never fucking works.
      Ever since I've started using Linux Solving problems has been easy as hell. Theres almost always a fix that will work.

    • @purplenuggets12
      @purplenuggets12 Pƙed 7 lety +2

      Detinu Detinu in my year and a half experience with Linux, every problem I've ever had (which I could probably count on just my fingers if I wanted to) I've fixed in less than a day, most of the time in minutes. I'm sure there might be a handful of bugs that aren't covered super well on forums, but most problems should already be covered and easily fixable.

    • @Betacak3
      @Betacak3 Pƙed 7 lety +2

      We will accept you. In fact, we will welcome you with open arms!

    • @FlintG
      @FlintG Pƙed 7 lety +1

      Linux sucks.

  • @Fusion_the_wolf
    @Fusion_the_wolf Pƙed 7 lety +20

    they should call it windows 10 lite

    • @MsHojat
      @MsHojat Pƙed 7 lety +2

      No I would hate that. Lite has been a term some people have used to make their own custom stripped-down lighter versions of Windows. A disorganized non-standardized community of random people would have to use some other word.
      Plus I don't know how lite W10S even is; it seems more like a limited-permissions version.

  • @FierceSmurfN8r
    @FierceSmurfN8r Pƙed 7 lety

    And to think Microsoft actually got rid of this marvelous man. If Jerry was running the show for windows we would have a much better OS. Love the videos man.

  • @MrFurriephillips
    @MrFurriephillips Pƙed 7 lety +7

    Wow, that's a seriously douchey move. Would you consider doing some Linux advocacy videos, as alternative to Windows OS? I'd be happy to support you on Patreon, for some altOS focus.

  • @josephwodarczyk977
    @josephwodarczyk977 Pƙed 7 lety +3

    Microsoft said that the s stands for, among other things which you said, "superior". Yeah. Ridiculous.

  • @gamerperson9331
    @gamerperson9331 Pƙed 7 lety +13

    $2,000 laptop!!!! For a laptop

    • @gamerperson9331
      @gamerperson9331 Pƙed 7 lety +1

      So expensive

    • @sld26t
      @sld26t Pƙed 7 lety +7

      joshman VS GAMING. IT'S NOT EVEN A GAMING LAPTOP WTF so expensive

    • @Catsrules1
      @Catsrules1 Pƙed 7 lety +7

      MS is the new apple

    • @TTGDragonz
      @TTGDragonz Pƙed 7 lety

      Epicwallzdan designer laptops are expensive too

  • @ast5515
    @ast5515 Pƙed 7 lety

    The thing about the Windows Defender situation is that you still have a web browser on these things. You can get infected without downloading an app or program.

  • @eugenebebs7767
    @eugenebebs7767 Pƙed 7 lety

    My theory is that it's Microsoft is going to make 10S free version of Windows and then charge people with monthly/yearly fee to access full functionality.
    This way, they will:
    1) Reduce piracy because lets say all future versions of Windows will be S-like and require on-line activation to upgrade this crippled version
    2) Forcedly increase user base of their app store, thus making it appealing for developers

  • @swordsmasher200
    @swordsmasher200 Pƙed 7 lety +5

    So they are giving a big ol FU to their customers? man... should probably load up my old windows 98 install disk i found and run that instead :)

  • @BasharatKhan
    @BasharatKhan Pƙed 7 lety +6

    I heard that for a year you could upgrade to the pro version for free and after that it was around $50.

    • @Barnacules
      @Barnacules  Pƙed 7 lety +5

      I've heard about that too but couldn't find an article to support it when I was shooting, but it wouldn't surprise me after the fallout about hearing the price after buying a freaking Surface Laptop.

    • @flowalex
      @flowalex Pƙed 7 lety +1

      It is free to upgrade til 2017 if you buy the surface laptop, or are a student is what I read

    • @computethis7128
      @computethis7128 Pƙed 7 lety

      Basharat Khan I payed ÂŁ92 for a CD.

    • @MikkoHaavisto1
      @MikkoHaavisto1 Pƙed 7 lety

      This.

  • @alif499
    @alif499 Pƙed 4 lety

    Can we get an updated version of this topic? Seems like windows 10S is still alive and well. Anything changed?

  • @aounleonardo
    @aounleonardo Pƙed 7 lety

    Great video and I get your point. But Windows 10 Home now is already being sold at like 120$ from the Microsoft online store. 10S is free and the Pro is 50, so we're still getting the pro version for less than the actual home edition, unless im mistaken and the 10S is not free.

  • @jonkki
    @jonkki Pƙed 7 lety +9

    Hey Jerry, in Finland we have to pay a 24% VAT on Patreon, so I'd much rather just donate a few bucks with PayPal. I don't need rewards or discord perks. Consider having a PayPal link in the description as well?

  • @thetimelords911
    @thetimelords911 Pƙed 7 lety +5

    This is a brand new OS and wont be forced into Windows 10 right? O-O

    • @hycron1234
      @hycron1234 Pƙed 7 lety +5

      It would not surprise me.

  • @mikeymarmalade
    @mikeymarmalade Pƙed 7 lety +5

    Microsoft are screwing themselves. People will buy a pc with this cheap OS installed then download Windows 10 Pro for free, as well as Office Pro and be very happy.