Did Medieval Maps Actually Say “Here Be Dragons”?
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- čas přidán 14. 12. 2023
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Intro:
Going to sea as a medieval sailor must have been a terrifying prospect. If, by some miracle, you weren’t shipwrecked by a freak storm or killed by scurvy or some other nasty disease, you risked sailing off the edge of the world into the abyss, or straying into regions unknown filled with horrifying monsters, helpfully marked on your map with the ominous warning HERE BE DRAGONS.
…or did you? While we like to think of the so-called “Dark Ages” as a time of profound ignorance and superstition, in reality, medieval people knew far more about the world than we typically give them credit for. But what about the whole “Here be Dragons” thing on maps? Well, let’s find out all about it as we delve into the weird and wonderful world of medieval cartography.
Author: Gilles Messier
Host: Daven Hiskey
Producer: Samuel Avila
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Are you still looking for a presenter? How would i apply 😊?
Here be Daven
Here be monsters. As a commercial diver I know this to be true.
10 foot jewfish made me wonder why i was there!
Lot lizards!
“These bones.. which humans have seemingly been coming across as long as we’ve been humaning” 😊 I love this line!
As much as I miss Simon and his antics, you do a good job (and thank you for pronouncing things well haha). I really enjoyed the subject of this one. Massive medieval artefacts nerd!
Simon isn't gone; they just take turns now. And I agree; I think they're both great 👍
You missed mentioning the obvious convention that, given a map that had east at the top, when held correctly, was “ORIENTED”, which is the origin of that use of the word to indicate that something is in the “correct” position.
Thank you for your comment!! This was a complete unknown to me and I went from "whoa really" to "whoa, there's so much to this.." pretty quick, thanks to a keyword search landing me at edsitement.neh.gov/lesson-plans/mapping-past and then my trip down the rabbit hole while following the activities. Thank you very much for my new very cool interest.
Fun fact, in old Welsh the word dragon (sorry can't remember the exact spelling) translated as worm. It was used to describe a narrow line of rocks jutting out into the sea.
When I worked at Boeing any internal site maps that included a body of water would always include a "sea serpent" in the water
It may well be that there be dragons, but here be not Simon.
I don't know what you're talking about. Simon definitely hosted this one. It's just the KEEPS and AG1 kicking in and so much time spent abroad, the accent slips. Can't be helped. 😋 -TOTALLY SIMON
Understood. Thanks for clarifying! @@TodayIFoundOut
Have they allowed you out of the dungeon? Or did they just give you some books cases for enrichment? Either way, happy to see you! Loving the beard, are you using Beard Blaze in it?
One perk of the dungeon is indeed Simon hooking all of us up with those sweet, sweet Beard Blaze products free of charge. 😋 -Daven
@@TodayIFoundOutthat dungeon contains zero pubes, Manscaped FTW😅
I am glad your Keeps sponsorship is doing well for your hair, Simon. Am I right, Peter?! (But seriously, still subscribed. Keep up the good work.)
Thanks for your opening statements. We forget that people are growing, building on knowledge, learning(except for war) and inventing. The former world had knowledge that spurred on the need to know more. Us "moderners" can be too pompous at times.
Great show as always Daven. Here be round-earthers!
"Eastern Oriented maps..." And the map shown says "Oriens" on the top, which means "East". Hence why "orient" and "oriented" are related!
It was actually just on maps for the Balkans: Here be Dragan's.
And they were weren't wrong!
You are the "bears, beets and Battlestar Galactica" foil to Simon. Your stuff has such a "Connections" feel and is a joy to watch.
Damn, not only do the Chinese eat endangered animals for magic powers, they eat extinct ones too lol.
The residents of the blazement have revolted and now Simon is the one being locked in it. 😂
Old maps actually show giants on different continents.
Heliocentrism is attested in The West as long ago as Aristarchus, and in the Vedas, much longer.
Flat earth was started by Turkish sailors to control trade routes while they actually had the Piri Reis map.
The reemergence of flat earth in recent times was the product of a failed how-to book writer who wrote a book claiming the moon landings were fake. It was so much more successful than his farming books, the he followed it up with a flat earth book. He even admitted he didn't believe the earth was flat, but was willing to take money from those who did. 😂
Good to see you, Daven!
Thanks :-) -Daven
bloopers, awesome! joke about Simon having few videos on CZcams made me exploded with laughter
Guys theres a video with Simon Whistler where he describes if its possible for a normal person to land a passenger plane. They described Helios Airways Flight 522, the story of the air steward who attempted to land the plane after everyone went unconscious (and failed), he also discussed other incidents where people did land a small biplane successfully.
He even gave guidance on what to say on the radio if you find yourself in that situation. Please help me find it 🙏
😂 First i need an answer: Are you currently falling from the sky in a plane?
@@YeeSoestpresumably he was, and since he didn’t respond, obviously he didn’t get the instructions he needed. 🪦
Not rn, thankfully
I understand the guidance is to put the headphones on and press a red button on the steering wheel to contact ground control and ask them for guidance on using automatic controls to land the plane
@@Daniel-ht4wr afaik that's basically the idea, yes. Depending on how much time, fuel and turbulence you have, the odds rise and fall but I HEARD the average chances of a total nobody landing a commercial plane like that are pretty okay...it's more than a wild gamble for sure
Daven is like a Meta-CZcamsr.
Were the ground up dinosaur bones better for you than AG1? Daven, you could be the son I never had… our eating habits are identical. If it’s green, it means it’s gone bad, so I can’t eat it! 🤣
ADD OVER AT ~3:45
too long!
I think is healthy to have more than one host, especially for these types of channels that are meant to be informative. I'm also reading comments to see how deep into parasocial relationships people are, and I think a lot of subscribers got confused because of the whole channel-splitting thing. Guys, please just enjoy the facts and videos.
One important, often overlooked note. Columbus wasn't the first medieval European to find the Americas. And no, I'm not talking about the Vikings either.
The Portuguese had been to the Americas for at least 20 years prior (we know they located Newfoundland, Canada by 1471) and Columbus even used Portuguese maps of the Caribbean to get to... well, the Caribbean.
And there is no telling how many made it there, and never returned.
My favorite inscription from this period of cartography was 'This way lies madness ' I don't really know why but it seems authentic. 😅
Thank you, Daven, this is really fascinating!
Excellent video, Daven!
Google maps would have been much fun if it existed back then
There be apothecaries and untrustworthy traders here. 😁
He hates cooking he says while I'm watching this on my phone next to my stove. It's 🍝 night by the way here. 😆
I really do. Just the worst... The real irony is some of my favorite CZcams channels are cooking channels. 🤷 Tasting History and You Suck at Cooking. 😋 -Daven
I never really wondered too much about these. When I doodled in school books, I used filler nonsense all the time...I just expected these drawings and notes to be just that: Filler
now most of these new dinosaurs are hiding in parts of sea where it's safe from pollution
Thank you - nicely done!
Doing a great job guys❤️
Very enjoyable. Thank you!
There are at least 2 survey plats recorded in Fresno County that feature conservation easements clearly labeled "THERE BE DRAGONS HERE", I know, I drafted them...
It never ceases to amaze me how absolutely bankers ancient Chinese medicine is. Or any ancient medicine. How did any of our ancestors survive long enough to allow our species to still be here is beyond me
Dont forget the Kimodo Dragon (and similar lizard) , while not having fire breathing breath at such , does have a mix of venom glands and a bacterial cocktail in its mouth that leads to a slow (about 5 to 7 days on larger creatures (inc humans), death, allowing it to scavenge on the dead cadiver
That barnes & noble copy of The Count of Monte Cristo is absolutely beautiful... I have a copy myself.
Genuinely my favorite book of all time. :-) -Daven
as soon as I saw the title I had Fargo flashbacks
This would have come from a mistranslation of a map of the West coast of the Americas which said 'Warning! Here be Dragqueens'
@@aussieobserver3219 Perhaps we should include Moonee Ponds. RIP Dame Edna.
Rrrrrrr this not be simons.... Walk the plank
Fascinating and video!
For example, at this moment on a map in the place where the kremlin is located it is a symbol meaning here be rubber ducks...
Imagine being the first to figure out the circumference
Since this period was rich in superstition and dark imaginings, we see the art and language reflecting that. People were consumed with mystical fears and ignorant meanderings in folkways and rituals, in their attempts to find solutions to the sufferings and uncertainty of day to day life.
I've always been fascinated by ancient cartography because of the abundance of mysticism found in early charts.
Eh, just look at people today. If there are still humans in several hundred years, they will think that everyone was an idiot and believed the world was flat, vaccines wouldn't work and vampires ruled the world, if they look at social media.
Medieval isn’t ancient
@@KristinkaAranova Oh, it isn't?
You like to argue, don't you?
Wow.
@@bretfisher7286 lol I’m just saying medieval isn’t ancient
@svetlanakuznetkova4292 "Ancient" is relative, is it not?
What about Claudius Ptolemy's First Century CE gridded map?
The map the historian James Bruke claims inspired Columbus.
I thought his map was north oriented (mainly because he was drawing from Alexanderia with most of the Roman Enpire lying north of him.)
I am not certain, and I'm asking.
I think medieval map we're more about showing pretty pictures and they were more religious oriented showing very pretty pictures they wasn't even there wasn't even oriented to the north they were oriented to the east.
She did not say there was no right to mass protest. She said that there was no right to do so in the streets because it denies others right to free passage. She did say you could assemble on private property if the owner was willing. She did not mention parks, which exist as gathering places and which is where demonstrations were held originally. Also, street parades were often held by the town or city, such as Memorial and Veterans' Day parades. Then the city allowed others to have parades by permit
She correctly said that there is no such thing as "symbolic" speech, this was more in the line of flag desecration. This is not speech, this is an act. "Speech" is either oral or writtn material. Aside from that, we have had something for over 150 years: Hanging Uncle Sam in effegy. Uncle Sam reference SPECIFICALLY the Government; NOT the nation at large as the flag does
.......fitness nut....sure Daven. This is right up there with Simon trying to pitch hair products.
Also, love the videos.
3:23 the actual start time of this video.
**lurks in the comments**
It is worth checking the Bible for mentions of possible sea monsters (leviathan may have been land or water based ?) as well as mentioning lions and so on.
Fossilized dinosaur skeletons are usually found disarticulated and incomplete. Reconstructing them requires knowledge of anatomy and even phylogeny. It's unlikely that dragons were the artistic renderings of dinosaur skeletons that were stumbled across fully exposed, articulated, and complete.
On the other hand, snakes were the subject of mythology and folklore for a long time. Dragon mythology could have developed from serpent mythology. In Europe, for example, dragons appear to have started out as large serpents without arms or legs or wings, which were added in later stories.
I love ancient, mediaeval and renaissance cartography, so filled with amazing names and illustrations. ❤
Some of those so called dragons, could have been early sightings large reptiles like Komodos as well as fossil bones, after all crocodiles were known to ancient Egyptians and Romans, etc.
The Romans decimated the Asiatic Lion species, because they used them in their arenas, for sport.
Whales, etc, must have terrified early sailors, nevermind the oceanic tides.
In the early Renaissance Rhinos were often referred to as Unicorns.
Dragonsess
It was my understanding that here be dragons was sometimes used to indicate rough seas like around cape horn & what not.
Yes! Thank you!!! Dinosaurs were thought to be dragons. Said that for years.
What have you done to Simon?
They posted a video (i just found it today) i believe on top tens explaining what up i believe it said it was posted around 3 months ago
AG1 looks like Soylent Green.....
I hate to sound like a jerk, but I totally zoned out during the AG1 plug. A squirrel ran across my backyard and I suddenly realized, "Oh! Did I click on a video or is it just over-saturated advertisements that I've trained my brain to ignore?"
I'm a new parent so, I think I need some dragon teeth for my "manic running about". Anyone got any?
we may laugh as we disparage the incomplete knowledge of the ancient world, but just think about what our far future descendants may say about us. there’s always so much more to know & learn.
Daven!
User-eh6th9wj5k!!! :-) -Daven
Please tell me!!!!
Idk why but I just can't get into these one without Simon
1 slight correction, medieval "doctrine" did not say animals could not go extinct. Rather is was a commonly excepted belief. Doctrine is something very different
Video starts at 3:30!
Where's Simon?!
Wait..where's simon?!
Daven you sounds like a nice guy and hope you get in to the role. And I say its really cool how Simon have mor ore less created a fact network! When his streaming site comes hope they call it the whistlerwerse! Free the basment writters!
They used to say "Rand - McNally.
What happened to Bald Guy
Keeps. 😋 -Daven
Dude... If you shaved your face you would definitely be a Toby McGuire doppelganger!
Here be trolls... Man I miss WHF
Topic looks really cool, but I cant get through even a minute of this video without Simons accent 😩
Now don't do it a second time.
Where is our sweet fact boy!? Is he alright!?
He left this as well as all the ‘-graphics’ channels after … ‘creative differences’. Hes still on the Megaprojects channel.
@lilgnomey Simon hasn't left TIFO. :-) And TopTenz, Biographics, and Geographics don't have anything to do with TIFO. Different company. :-) -Daven
People really believed the world was round back in those days? Oh, those wacky but ignorant savages!😉
Anyone else get distracted by the Samsung jingle in the background?
Pretty sure it’s the same shit as that type architecture that tries to keep ppl away. Forgot what’s it’s called
"Defensive" architecture?
Where is Simon ?
Hog tied in the basement.
@ghostratsarah #TIFOAFTERDARK 😋 -Daven
I'm sorry you hate food (AG1 Commercial). Who hurt you with the veggies? Baby carrots make horrible vitamin A suppositories, I guess.
A.I Simon looks a little off🤔
Probably just ducks
Bring back Simon
Bring back simon
Do you really believe that there are no dragons? Perhaps you should visit Komodo, assuming that Simon lets you out of his basement.
That was a long AG1 ad. My attention span is too short for that, on to the next video.
Clearly never been on double toasted...
When you sit through a 5-minute ad filled with bad jokes, puns and trying to be funny? then come back...
amen!!!!
Yeah, nah.
wtf? where is simon whistler?
Don't question it. You'll put him in danger.
You lost me on that anti-vegetable rant.
Vegetables are the true scourge of the 7 seas. -Daven
same here!
Who are you and what have you done with Simon.
This guy is not Simon
A host that claims to be a healthnut while not eating fruits&veggies AND sounds like he has an insanely had flu or other disease that makes his voice hoarse and unstable?
Nope. Hope they get a new host or hope this guy's throat gets better.
The content atleast was fine.
why are you pushing gross green powder like immediately? Get real
You missed the dragons that still live today!? and what do you know most are around Asia.
almost 3m commercial after 40 sec? unsubscribing