Really enjoy your Xwing videos, much more than other reviews. They are succinct, clear, and help us understand the nuances of the game. I was worried you were going to stop with the two weeks since your last video.
I'd love to see a Ship Building episode with RAC teamed with either Sontir or Whisper. I'm just getting into the game and this combo has caught my eye.
Another great and informative video, keep up the good work. Looking forward to purchasing an Assault Carrier at some point in the future and giving a Youngster+Expose swarm a whirl. Slightly off-topic but touching on what was mentioned on Expert Handling- I've found sticking it on Tycho to be, while perhaps not tournament build appropriate, a really fun combination to fly along with PTL+ Experimental Interface.
Love your videos Pat. I agree with putting expose on youngster with a tie swarm could be devastating. I would love to try it out one day being a fan of the tie swarm. Keep the videos coming!
+Kyran Evans-Beale - Yeah, a lot of people seem to think it's too expensive/risky on a TIE swarm, but it's the one I'm most interested in playing with. Marksmanship is a close second.
+Hans Saunders - Yeah... sorry about that. I was in Florida and the Bahamas over the holidays. I guess I'm happy that the only thing I brought back with me was a mild head cold.
Squad Leader is an action too. While it doesn't really increase your actions, it DOES allow other TIEs to potentially pass their actions if they know for a fact they won't get shot at to a target who is more vulnerable. You could also forfeit your action to another TIE that you know your opponent will want to focus.
+anotherwrld - Oh, good catch. I completely missed Squad Leader. Seems like it might be tough to get good use out of via Youngster's ability, but I imagine there might be some situations where it could be fun. For example, you could have two or three TIEs all give a free action to the same ship, creating a sort of "super ship" that could potentially take evade, focus, target lock, boost and barrel roll actions all in the same round, for example. I'm not sure that using the actions of several ships to turn one ship into a beast for a round is worth it, but you never know. Maybe someone will come up with a killer combo around it.
+The Cardboard Dungeon Imagine: You are flying a Tie-Swarm (2 Obsidian-Pilots, Youngster with Squad Leader, Scourge with Expose, Backstabber). Everyone has the Engine Upgrade, or the Targeting Computer. If only ONE Tie has a good (or bad) position, he gets focus, target locks, boosts, evades, barrel rolls, whatever he needs. This could be interresting.
7:35 You would want this to combo with Wampa. You can easily nuke things that normally are very hard for TIEs to remove, like Corran or Whisper in just two shots, or land some easy damage on Fel, and remove his SD. They don't even get to roll evades.
+Jetu Hajice - Dang, it, you're right. Someone else pointed out Squad Leader but I missed Daredevil too. However, Daredevil seems really bad with Youngster so I imagine they left it out of this expansion on purpose. You generally aren't going to use Engine Upgrade on a TIE Fighter, and the risk of killing yourself by rolling 2 attack dice just for a white 1 speed turn doesn't seem very appealing on TIEs.
+Smashed Banana - Yep, a guaranteed critical for Wampa via Palpatine... Yikes. Think about this: Omicron Group Pilot w/ Darth Vader + Gunner, Patrol Leader w/ Palpatine, Wampa. I'd hate to be the guy flying a loaded Soontir Fel or Whisper against that combo.
In regards to the free barrel roll before 9:21 ..... if a swarm is going to continually be threatened by assault missiles , getting the swarm to expand out to avoid damage... or Epic ships on maneuvering in on a swarm? Am I thinking on this wrong?
+Thugmun1 - It's not a free barrel roll; it still costs your action, and TIEs already have barrel roll native on their action bars so they're capable of performing it without using Youngster's Elite slot. And like I said, gaining the ability to shed a target lock really isn't a big gain for TIEs.
that yngster with one other the other elite pilots you mentioned, with exposed helps make shore he get a crit though even more. as that card exposed turns a foces into a crit adn he can casil crits to deal one damge card to a ship. if that ship had clocking divice that a good get around. just my thoughts.
+Stranglygreen - Yes, Wampa + Youngster w/Marksmanship is a nice combo. Solid synergy there, and if you toss Scourge in as well, he benefits from having his ability triggered against any enemy ship that Wampa can put a damage card onto. Pretty nifty little three ship combo they snuck into this expansion.
Expert Handling IS great, but only for agil ships without the barrel roll. Is is great for IG-2000 (a large ship with boost and barrel roll) or Tycho Celchu (with Prototype Pilot, Push the Limit and Experimental Interface). But you are right, don't use it for Ties.
Hi, great review! I'm new to X-Wing Miniatures, so I really like your straightforward yet thorough reviews. I'm thinking of getting the Gozanti Carrier next, so this was helpful. So, I think the video said you reviewed the Gozanti Carrier itself in another video. I'm having trouble finding it. Could you please give us a link?
+The Cardboard Dungeon Actually, I meant a link to your review video of the carrier. I couldn't find the video on your CZcams Channel page. Looks like the link you posted is to purchase it. Great price, though! I'll probably get it from there:-)
For someone who has just started, what ships would you recommend? I've currently got the original core set, a YT1300 and a TIE Advanced. Anyone is welcome to answer and give their opinion! :)
+Keanine - TiE Interceptor and Decimator for the Imperials. Maybe Rebel Aces and/or a second X-Wing for the Rebels. Should give you a solid start for some good squads.
I'm very new to the x-wing community, and how do you think I should improve? I have very little people around me that actually would play, so how should I proceed?
+LLLong - Check around to see if there is a local X-Wing community in your area. Online forums are a good place to start. You might need to drive a little distance, but you'll find that X-Wing players tend to be a very welcoming group and will be happy to add new players to their group.
+blaze084 - Sadly, no tournament or match videos here. I'm not equipped for such a thing, and my work schedule doesn't let me get to too many events these days, sadly.
+Spacefrisian - Nope. The Elite upgrade needs to have the "Action:" header for it to work with Youngster's ability. The three Elite upgrades packed in this expansion are the ones that give his squadron the most bang for the buck.
+The Cardboard Dungeon technically due to the "legal" writing aspects as "action" is not noted as such it is in fact able to be argued the anything that uses an active verb in its card description would be considered an action as it's written if it is something the "ship" is doing
+The Cardboard Dungeon do you one better since when "action" on a card is in bold when it is meant to be an action such as an action bar, it is therefore conceivable that as the writing is not in bold it is not referring to the same "ACTION"
Scourge im pretty sure is pronounced /skerj/, like Scourge of the Seven Seas. 7:50 there is. This would allow Wampa to get the crit he needs to cancel to apply damage cards, which would then let Scourge roll an extra attack die on that same ship. 9:25 I agree. I used it in a store tournament to counter someones Latts Razzi squad and protect my E-wing. But it really didnt help me that much so i may switch it out for elusiveness to counter wampas crit die (since E-wings only have 2 hull) and it would be more widely useful.
Yes, I thought about the synergy between Marksmanship and Wampa shortly after recording the video. I didn't consider the added utility to Scourge, though, since that combo directly enables his ability. Very cool. I feel like there are multiple such interactions between these four TIE pilot.... almost as if they were designed to fly together. Perhaps even be launched from some kind of carrier as a cohesive unit.
Yes Marksmanship works like an offense-only Focus action, with the exception being that the first eyeball you convert becomes a critical hit and any others become normal hits.
Completely off topic haha...but I'm a complete noob and am curious... Does Darth Vader with the Expert Handling upgrade get to take 3 actions per turn? Or does Expert Handling count as 1 of his 2 actions per turn (even though the barrel roll is 'free')?
+twitchster77 Never mind! He answers my questions at 09:00 This will make my mom sad...but will make me happy! lol :) (we played a game the other day...single ship 40 points each. It was Darth Vader (mom) vs. Luke Skywalker (me) where she had expert handling and engine upgrade (gave her the ability to take boost actions)...and we thought she got 3 actions per round since the barrel roll was 'free'. Though I hit her pretty dang hard and had her down to just 1 hull left...she in the end took the game because she was able to stay out of my firing arch like a BOSS haha. It started to feel quite unfair midway through the game that she was getting 3 actions though (...though to be fair, my mom was equally frustrated with my R2-D2...lol I must've gained something like 10 energy off of him throughout the game!).
+twitchster77 - Your Mom will be happy to know that the Elite upgrade Push the Limit, found in the A-Wing and Imperial Aces expansions, DOES allow Vader to take 3 actions per round (at the cost of also taking a stress token).
The Cardboard Dungeon Yeah haha my next purchase is going to include an A-Wing and Imp. Aces just so we can get a few copies of that card. Thanks for the awesome suggestion :D
+twitchster77 - Does your mom know about the TIE Advanced upgrades in the Imperial Raider expansion yet? The TIE/X1 title plus Advanced Targeting Computer plus Push the Limit makes Vader an absolute beast.
The Cardboard Dungeon haha no...and frankly she doesn't need to! xP Vader stomped me yet again earlier tonight (in a Luke vs. Vader single ship game). he's insane at being able to stay out of my firing arch with barrel rolls and boost (from the engine upgrade card). I WILL crush him...just taking me some time to learn how to fly well enough to keep the sucker within my firing arch.
I would imagine "Chaser" being pretty useful. Tie Fighters are always numerous, and in Epic play he should be able to soak up a focus or two easily. Nice review though, i enjoy your videos.
Hey there! I think you're already doing a great job but what I'd like is just a bit more theory during your reviews and also some videos dedicated to skills and strategy.
+Kevin Zaballos I just like saying his name. Wampa. I want to find a way to use it more often in every day conversations! "Oh Wampa that was a great touchdown!" or maybe something like... "Oh Wampa. :( /sigh...it's snowing outside." I don't know. But I will find a way!!!
+Ryan Ebsen -"Youngster" w/ Marksmanship, "Howlrunner" w/Stealth Device, 5x Academy Pilots = 99 points. Academy Pilots with a re-roll and Marksmanship.
i want to like this game. Heck, i DO like this game, but the cost kills it for me. 15 dollars (sometimes more) for a tiny toy ship? I could buy a few lattes for that. Heck i could buy a latte and an enjoyable video game for that. After i bought the tie defender, and played a few games, i thought to myself, "did i really just pay 15 bucks for something that should be half that price?" That is when it died for me.
+Tripp Fields - Compare the pricing of X-Wing ships to any other tabletop miniature game on the market; i.e. Warhammer 40k, WarMachine, etc. Most of those come unassembled and unpainted, and with minimal or no game accessories for the same cost as an X-Wing expansion. $15-$20 for a ready to play seems reasonable to me.
i want to like this game. Heck, i DO like this game, but the cost kills it for me. 15 dollars (sometimes more) for a tiny toy ship? I could buy a few lattes for that. Heck i could buy a latte and an enjoyable video game for that. After i bought the tie defender, and played a few games, i thought to myself, "did i really just pay 15 bucks for something that should be half that price?" That is when it died for me.
Really enjoy your Xwing videos, much more than other reviews. They are succinct, clear, and help us understand the nuances of the game. I was worried you were going to stop with the two weeks since your last video.
Wow! Those pilot skills are bananas.
Love your videos. Your reviews are entertaining and informative and they make my day.
+colsupertaco - Thanks!
another great review, keep them coming!
I'd love to see a Ship Building episode with RAC teamed with either Sontir or Whisper. I'm just getting into the game and this combo has caught my eye.
Another great and informative video, keep up the good work. Looking forward to purchasing an Assault Carrier at some point in the future and giving a Youngster+Expose swarm a whirl.
Slightly off-topic but touching on what was mentioned on Expert Handling- I've found sticking it on Tycho to be, while perhaps not tournament build appropriate, a really fun combination to fly along with PTL+ Experimental Interface.
I picked this one up a couple days after it came out. I'm excited to try out the docking clamps mechanic.
top notch video as usual! Many thanks!
+Eric T - Thanks!
Love your videos Pat. I agree with putting expose on youngster with a tie swarm could be devastating. I would love to try it out one day being a fan of the tie swarm. Keep the videos coming!
+Kyran Evans-Beale - Yeah, a lot of people seem to think it's too expensive/risky on a TIE swarm, but it's the one I'm most interested in playing with. Marksmanship is a close second.
BLUE TIE Fighters... LOVE!
Great job on the videos! Get to feeling better, sniffles.
+Hans Saunders - Yeah... sorry about that. I was in Florida and the Bahamas over the holidays. I guess I'm happy that the only thing I brought back with me was a mild head cold.
Squad Leader is an action too. While it doesn't really increase your actions, it DOES allow other TIEs to potentially pass their actions if they know for a fact they won't get shot at to a target who is more vulnerable. You could also forfeit your action to another TIE that you know your opponent will want to focus.
+anotherwrld - Oh, good catch. I completely missed Squad Leader. Seems like it might be tough to get good use out of via Youngster's ability, but I imagine there might be some situations where it could be fun. For example, you could have two or three TIEs all give a free action to the same ship, creating a sort of "super ship" that could potentially take evade, focus, target lock, boost and barrel roll actions all in the same round, for example. I'm not sure that using the actions of several ships to turn one ship into a beast for a round is worth it, but you never know. Maybe someone will come up with a killer combo around it.
+The Cardboard Dungeon Imagine:
You are flying a Tie-Swarm (2 Obsidian-Pilots, Youngster with Squad Leader, Scourge with Expose, Backstabber). Everyone has the Engine Upgrade, or the Targeting Computer.
If only ONE Tie has a good (or bad) position, he gets focus, target locks, boosts, evades, barrel rolls, whatever he needs.
This could be interresting.
7:35 You would want this to combo with Wampa. You can easily nuke things that normally are very hard for TIEs to remove, like Corran or Whisper in just two shots, or land some easy damage on Fel, and remove his SD. They don't even get to roll evades.
There is also Squad Leader & Daredevil that can be used with Youngster
+Jetu Hajice - Dang, it, you're right. Someone else pointed out Squad Leader but I missed Daredevil too. However, Daredevil seems really bad with Youngster so I imagine they left it out of this expansion on purpose. You generally aren't going to use Engine Upgrade on a TIE Fighter, and the risk of killing yourself by rolling 2 attack dice just for a white 1 speed turn doesn't seem very appealing on TIEs.
theres another action ET youve missed that doesnt come in the gozanti, Squad Leader. however that basically sacrifices an action
Wampa with Palpatine is a hilarious sniper build.
+Smashed Banana - Yep, a guaranteed critical for Wampa via Palpatine... Yikes. Think about this: Omicron Group Pilot w/ Darth Vader + Gunner, Patrol Leader w/ Palpatine, Wampa. I'd hate to be the guy flying a loaded Soontir Fel or Whisper against that combo.
Hey man, great content! I really like these rundown videos. They are so helpful for building great squadrons.
Thanks! I'm glad that you're enjoying them!
another great video!
+Jake Shear - Thank you!
In regards to the free barrel roll before 9:21 ..... if a swarm is going to continually be threatened by assault missiles , getting the swarm to expand out to avoid damage... or Epic ships on maneuvering in on a swarm? Am I thinking on this wrong?
+Thugmun1 - It's not a free barrel roll; it still costs your action, and TIEs already have barrel roll native on their action bars so they're capable of performing it without using Youngster's Elite slot. And like I said, gaining the ability to shed a target lock really isn't a big gain for TIEs.
I have just started X-wing and these videos are really helpful, thanks!
that yngster with one other the other elite pilots you mentioned, with exposed helps make shore he get a crit though even more. as that card exposed turns a foces into a crit adn he can casil crits to deal one damge card to a ship. if that ship had clocking divice that a good get around. just my thoughts.
+Stranglygreen - Yes, Wampa + Youngster w/Marksmanship is a nice combo. Solid synergy there, and if you toss Scourge in as well, he benefits from having his ability triggered against any enemy ship that Wampa can put a damage card onto. Pretty nifty little three ship combo they snuck into this expansion.
+The Cardboard Dungeon that for understanding what i was trying to say.
Expert Handling IS great, but only for agil ships without the barrel roll.
Is is great for IG-2000 (a large ship with boost and barrel roll) or Tycho Celchu (with Prototype Pilot, Push the Limit and Experimental Interface).
But you are right, don't use it for Ties.
Hey, when are the wave 10 ship reviews coming? Not trying to pressure you, just wondering. Keep up the great work!
Your videos are what got me and my friend into this game! Keep up the awesome analysis!
Thanks! I love hearing that our content is leading people to try X-Wing!
Just asking, where are the rest of the huge ship reviews. CR90 Corvette, Imperial Raider, and the Imperial Assault Cruiser. Just curious as all.
Hi, great review! I'm new to X-Wing Miniatures, so I really like your straightforward yet thorough reviews. I'm thinking of getting the Gozanti Carrier next, so this was helpful. So, I think the video said you reviewed the Gozanti Carrier itself in another video. I'm having trouble finding it. Could you please give us a link?
Sure: www.coolstuffinc.com/p/218281
+The Cardboard Dungeon Actually, I meant a link to your review video of the carrier. I couldn't find the video on your CZcams Channel page. Looks like the link you posted is to purchase it. Great price, though! I'll probably get it from there:-)
Oh! Sorry to disappoint you but I haven't made videos for most of the huge ships yet.
+The Cardboard Dungeon Oh OK, I misunderstood.
+The Cardboard Dungeon Maybe soon?
I think something Ironic is that expert handling works better AGAINST a TIE Swarm
My list that hasn't failed me yet.
Wampa
Scourge w/Ruthlessness
Mithel w/Draw their fire
Youngster w/Marksmanship
Soontir Feel w/PTL
Nice list! I might try it out sometime :)
+The Cardboard Dungeon :) :) :)
+GamingBrains - I especially like Ruthlessness on Scourge. Makes him even nastier.
For someone who has just started, what ships would you recommend? I've currently got the original core set, a YT1300 and a TIE Advanced. Anyone is welcome to answer and give their opinion! :)
+Keanine - TiE Interceptor and Decimator for the Imperials. Maybe Rebel Aces and/or a second X-Wing for the Rebels. Should give you a solid start for some good squads.
I'm very new to the x-wing community, and how do you think I should improve? I have very little people around me that actually would play, so how should I proceed?
+LLLong - Check around to see if there is a local X-Wing community in your area. Online forums are a good place to start. You might need to drive a little distance, but you'll find that X-Wing players tend to be a very welcoming group and will be happy to add new players to their group.
Palpatine Shuttle + Wampa... Think about that (;
+Death Reign - I have! I like it.
Hi! Anyone here planning on covering the 1st world tournament? Would love to follow the action on youtube.
+blaze084 - Sadly, no tournament or match videos here. I'm not equipped for such a thing, and my work schedule doesn't let me get to too many events these days, sadly.
That's too bad... I hope FFG gives certain fans the opportunity to watch some of these matches.
looking forward to the cruiser :) from what i read deploying the ties is pretty interesting.
Youngster with Wired, could that work? its an action you perform with youre hands right?
+Spacefrisian - Nope. The Elite upgrade needs to have the "Action:" header for it to work with Youngster's ability. The three Elite upgrades packed in this expansion are the ones that give his squadron the most bang for the buck.
+The Cardboard Dungeon technically due to the "legal" writing aspects as "action" is not noted as such it is in fact able to be argued the anything that uses an active verb in its card description would be considered an action as it's written if it is something the "ship" is doing
+Tyme40k - Try using that argument in a tournament and see how far it gets you :)
+The Cardboard Dungeon do you one better since when "action" on a card is in bold when it is meant to be an action such as an action bar, it is therefore conceivable that as the writing is not in bold it is not referring to the same "ACTION"
I am a rebel player, but this is pretty cool
oh and great vid
+Swan Cattle Stay out of Wampa's archs then lol
+Swan Cattle
*REBEL4LIFE!!*
twitchster77 YES!!!
lyianx lol
Scourge im pretty sure is pronounced /skerj/, like Scourge of the Seven Seas.
7:50 there is. This would allow Wampa to get the crit he needs to cancel to apply damage cards, which would then let Scourge roll an extra attack die on that same ship.
9:25 I agree. I used it in a store tournament to counter someones Latts Razzi squad and protect my E-wing. But it really didnt help me that much so i may switch it out for elusiveness to counter wampas crit die (since E-wings only have 2 hull) and it would be more widely useful.
Yes, I thought about the synergy between Marksmanship and Wampa shortly after recording the video. I didn't consider the added utility to Scourge, though, since that combo directly enables his ability. Very cool. I feel like there are multiple such interactions between these four TIE pilot.... almost as if they were designed to fly together. Perhaps even be launched from some kind of carrier as a cohesive unit.
Im I reading "marksmanship" wrong? if I roll 4 eyes they are actually hits?
Yes Marksmanship works like an offense-only Focus action, with the exception being that the first eyeball you convert becomes a critical hit and any others become normal hits.
Completely off topic haha...but I'm a complete noob and am curious...
Does Darth Vader with the Expert Handling upgrade get to take 3 actions per turn? Or does Expert Handling count as 1 of his 2 actions per turn (even though the barrel roll is 'free')?
+twitchster77
Never mind! He answers my questions at 09:00
This will make my mom sad...but will make me happy! lol :)
(we played a game the other day...single ship 40 points each. It was Darth Vader (mom) vs. Luke Skywalker (me) where she had expert handling and engine upgrade (gave her the ability to take boost actions)...and we thought she got 3 actions per round since the barrel roll was 'free'. Though I hit her pretty dang hard and had her down to just 1 hull left...she in the end took the game because she was able to stay out of my firing arch like a BOSS haha. It started to feel quite unfair midway through the game that she was getting 3 actions though (...though to be fair, my mom was equally frustrated with my R2-D2...lol I must've gained something like 10 energy off of him throughout the game!).
+twitchster77 - Your Mom will be happy to know that the Elite upgrade Push the Limit, found in the A-Wing and Imperial Aces expansions, DOES allow Vader to take 3 actions per round (at the cost of also taking a stress token).
The Cardboard Dungeon
Yeah haha my next purchase is going to include an A-Wing and Imp. Aces just so we can get a few copies of that card. Thanks for the awesome suggestion :D
+twitchster77 - Does your mom know about the TIE Advanced upgrades in the Imperial Raider expansion yet? The TIE/X1 title plus Advanced Targeting Computer plus Push the Limit makes Vader an absolute beast.
The Cardboard Dungeon
haha no...and frankly she doesn't need to! xP Vader stomped me yet again earlier tonight (in a Luke vs. Vader single ship game). he's insane at being able to stay out of my firing arch with barrel rolls and boost (from the engine upgrade card). I WILL crush him...just taking me some time to learn how to fly well enough to keep the sucker within my firing arch.
Imperial Raider review please? :)
I would imagine "Chaser" being pretty useful. Tie Fighters are always numerous, and in Epic play he should be able to soak up a focus or two easily. Nice review though, i enjoy your videos.
Hey there! I think you're already doing a great job but what I'd like is just a bit more theory during your reviews and also some videos dedicated to skills and strategy.
I like Wampa
+Kevin Zaballos I freaking hate him, and will really hate facing him.
Ignore your shields, he can be really good againts ships with lot of shields
+Kevin Zaballos
I just like saying his name.
Wampa.
I want to find a way to use it more often in every day conversations!
"Oh Wampa that was a great touchdown!"
or maybe something like...
"Oh Wampa. :( /sigh...it's snowing outside."
I don't know. But I will find a way!!!
+twitchster77 hahayes, it's a funny name
+Kevin Zaballos Reason why i hate him lol. Im currently flying an E-wing with shield upgrade and R2-D2 :P
Noooooooo not academy pilots with marksmanship 😭
+Ryan Ebsen -"Youngster" w/ Marksmanship, "Howlrunner" w/Stealth Device, 5x Academy Pilots = 99 points. Academy Pilots with a re-roll and Marksmanship.
+The Cardboard Dungeon that sownds like the worst
+Ryan Ebsen - It would chew up those zero Agility large ships like Decimators and the Ghost, that's for sure.
+The Cardboard Dungeon it would be bad for my fat Han build
+Ryan Ebsen even with c3-po
i want to like this game. Heck, i DO like this game, but the cost kills it for me. 15 dollars (sometimes more) for a tiny toy ship? I could buy a few lattes for that. Heck i could buy a latte and an enjoyable video game for that. After i bought the tie defender, and played a few games, i thought to myself, "did i really just pay 15 bucks for something that should be half that price?" That is when it died for me.
+Tripp Fields - Compare the pricing of X-Wing ships to any other tabletop miniature game on the market; i.e. Warhammer 40k, WarMachine, etc. Most of those come unassembled and unpainted, and with minimal or no game accessories for the same cost as an X-Wing expansion. $15-$20 for a ready to play seems reasonable to me.
The Cardboard Dungeon Fair enough. But for a single ship it just seems high to me. Granted, nowhere near the idiotic prices fir Warhammer though
How can you not say scourge right? Lol
+brent schlaeppi - I guess I'm just scourge-impaired.
i want to like this game. Heck, i DO like this game, but the cost kills it for me. 15 dollars (sometimes more) for a tiny toy ship? I could buy a few lattes for that. Heck i could buy a latte and an enjoyable video game for that. After i bought the tie defender, and played a few games, i thought to myself, "did i really just pay 15 bucks for something that should be half that price?" That is when it died for me.
+Tripp Fields blegh i have to spend money on my hobbies
+TemporalMeteor but still...that much for a toy ship?
+Tripp Fields I understand where you're coming from. But there are online stores which do a cheaper price. Troll Trader does 50% off IIRC.