Byron Katie: I am enlightened -- how would I know?
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- A free, live, online conversation, which is part of a series of conversations on the theme of 'Living from Love'. The theme of nonduality and enlightenment starts at 7:50. On the question 'Who am I': starting at 24:50. Enjoy! More info about other live online events on www.living-from-love.com.
Byron Katie is so beautiful. 🙏🙏
I have also been enjoying a lot of Master Sri Avinash myself lately for my spiritual awakening. #SriAvinashDo 💚💓
I find his videos make me feel so peaceful & more loving about other people.
Below are the comments from people who watched the live event. (I'm sorry not all the questions could be answered, but thank you for asking anyway. Do try doing a worksheet, it might answer the question...) Enjoy!
Grace Bubeck
Hi to you all, welcome! Where are you joining us from? You can use this comment thread to ask questions or comment... it's your space!
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Teresa Hoy
Hi Grace, Many thanks for this offering. I am in London. Teresa x
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Sujati A.Goernitz
Hi Grace, happy to be here! I'm in Val-David, Québec, Canada
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Marie Schils
Marie from Belgium
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Wendy Ayotte
great to see you in conversation with BK! Joining from Montreal, Canada
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Marina M.
Hi dear, watching from Switzerland near Basel.
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ditte p
Hi everyone. Joining from Denmark ❤
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Grace Bubeck
Hi, great to see you joining! If you'd like to do a work sheet with Katie, you join by using the link that I'll repost here on the comment thread! 💜
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Mari Hegyessy
Maria from Budapest, Hungary 😃
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aninja1978
from Finland.
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Sylvain Laporte
HELLO!
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ditte p
Did the livestream start?
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Sylvain Laporte
is it true that it started? 😃
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Julie Fredericks
Hello from Florida.
Gail from BC 💖thank You Grace for making this available ~ Hi everyone,
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Sujati A.Goernitz
she's starting the broadcast for the youtube watchers, the google hangout is open though
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Fabienne M
hello !
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Laila Victory
hello FROM LAILA UK
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Samantha Barley - Self-Discovery Life Coach
Hi from Montreal Canada 😃
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Chintana Deva
Chintana from France 😃
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Marie Schils
bonjour
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Vertti Pöllänen
hello from Finland
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Chintana Deva
Bonjour
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BuddhaAtTheGasPump
Hi from Rick at Batgap.com. I'll be interviewing Katie on April 9.
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Sharlene Duval
Hi Rick, thanks for your great work.
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IAM NOW
Blessings to you Rick A.
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BuddhaAtTheGasPump
Mine will be livestreamed too. Link will be on batgap (dot) com/future-interviews/upcoming-interviews/ the day before. You can submit questions through form at the bottom of the page
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France Amala
love and gratitude
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Laila Victory
I have a question someone lied to me how would i do the work on that?
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Maria Dailey
I want Dennis to spend time with me.
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Roel De Meu
how do i join the hangout
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Roel De Meu
i do not see a link 😃
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Grace Bubeck
hangouts.google.com/call/7mfq7ngfj5apxbfl4yo3xdgbpee
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Inês Cruz
Hi Katie and Grace, I'd like to ask Katie what would she do if she has identified the stressful belief, but whenever she would try to do the work on it strong sensations appear in the body,
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Inês Cruz
and fear to continue doing the work.
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Laila Victory
thank you katie i need to spend some time with it, i tried it briefly but my mind keot arguing saying but they did lie ! I feel maybe the lie is false identity.
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Samantha Barley - Self-Discovery Life Coach
The Work sounds very similar to Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. Would Katie explain it in that way?
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Julie Fredericks
I have some kind of big fear about loosing my place, my "world". The thing that is offered instead is intangible to me right now.
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Sujati A.Goernitz
thank you so much Katie, it's soo wonderful 💝
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Samantha Barley - Self-Discovery Life Coach
Thank you Grace and Katie 😃
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Celestegabriele
For you all who need support to do The Work, go to the Helpline on The Work website ore find a Certified Facilitator, love, Celeste
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Roel De Meu
Thank you and Grace and Katie
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Tietoisuuden Akatemia
Thank you so much Katie and Grace. ❤
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Chintana Deva
Beautiful 💜 Thank you Katie and Grace
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Inês Cruz
Thank you 💜
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Ekodar am
💙Thank you !
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ditte p
Thank you ❤
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Laila Victory
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GE Having Fun
Thank You all, ❤
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Celestegabriele
looks like it is already posed on live streams
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Grace Bubeck
Thank you all for joining us. the link for watching will be the link to watch the youtube video as well. 💜
Thank you Grace and Katie :)
+Samantha Barley - Self-Discovery Life Coach So sorry there was no time left to ask your question, Samantha! But you probably realize that Katie's work tends to go much deeper than cognitive psychology methods.
and
facebook.com/groups/TheWork30DayChallenge/
This group is for people who want to share a regular practice of The Work or want to start one. Spammers, teacher/preachers, chronic references to outside teachings and pontificators will be removed.
And there are worksheets and subquestions, etc. available at www.thework.com. And an excellent tutorial by Katie on how to do the Work for newbies. And in the files section of this group is a great list of subquestions Manfred created that are just awesome!
Each challenge theme will be 30 Days, and members are invited to post their Work and practice regularly. It is NOT a REQUIREMENT but we find that those that have a regular practice of The Work and post it periodically have the experience of The Work "coming alive" in them more readily though this group process.
There will be suggested themes for each week but everyone is free of course to do The Work that rises for them to do. If you have a lot of off topic inquiries to post for a single day, please keep them in one post and work in the comments section of that post.
Ossie Richards Is this group still going as I tried to get on it but couldn't ...am in other BK facebook groups but liked the 30 days theme....
I am battling with the work. Can somebody help me?
I keep getting injured.
My life was empty, I felt depressed. I was unfulfilled in my job. I found yoga. I fell in love with it. I got off anti-depressants and anxiety meds. I left my job. I studied therapeutic massage and became a yoga teacher. Shortly after my first yoga teacher course I developed a hip issue which has not stopped me from teaching but I had to stop practising the style of yoga I loved. After the hip issue started I had a car accident which effected my neck and shoulder and I still battle with it 12 years later.
I went rock climbing a few months back and absolutely loved it but woke up the next morning with 2 hurt shoulders which took 3 months of physio and chiro to sort out. I started seeing a biokinetisist to help strengthen correct muscles for the hip issue and also developed a love for running. I was running and doing more yoga as my body was allowing it, getting stronger etc, I have also discovered a talent and love for dancing in the past 3 years. So my top activities are running, yoga and dancing.
I hurt both ankles 9 weeks ago. I limped after I ran for 5km the one day and my ankle was sore. I ceased limping after a few days but that ankle was still sore and the other started playing up. My healing progress has not been very significant. I went to my chiropractor who after an adjustment said I would be able to run the next day but the treatment made zero difference. I then went to the physio who said I shouldn't need to see him again (One of the top sports physio in my suburb) and I should be running in 3 weeks. A week later I did see him again as there wasn't much improvement. Still he said it should settle in a week or two. It has been 9 weeks and still I can't run, do yoga or dance... the things I love. I have accepted that my shoulders don't allow for climbing, perhaps if I do all the correct strengthening exercises one day I will be able to climb again. The person I loved most died 2.5 years ago and I have lost other family members aswell. I can't do the things I love. I am so depressed and despondent particularly with the ankles being injured and the professionals not helping.
I have tried to do the work.
My ankles aren't healing.
Is that true? Well I don't know. Sometimes I think they are and then they are painful again
I need to know if my ankles are going to heal?
Is that true? No
I mean I don't really need to know but I continue to be depressed like there is just no point. I can focus on the mundane aspects of life but without joy what is the point???
I need my ankles to heal.
Is that true? No
How do I react when I believe that thought?
I pretend to be someone I am not. I pretend that physical activity is not important to me. I try convince myself that I can enjoy reading, baking, gardening etc and that I will enjoy these things more than the activities I love but it is just not the case.
The work has helped with so many things but it is not helping with this. Every time I love an activity I am forced to stop because my body gets injured. I am an active person and I can question that but I know it is true. How long do I give the latest injury before I give up on life completely? I am just hoping and praying that it just goes away one day but I don't know if it will. Do I just make believe that it will so I can cope and not get too depressed and despondent? I really have tried to convince myself that I don't need to run, do yoga or dance in order to be happy or to manage stress or keep my weight down. Next I will do the work on "I need to be happy, is that true?" I will then see that I don't need to be happy I will continue to live a life of misery and pointlessness... I feel like I just can't carry on.
hey dude. i hope this helps.
Thought = "I don't want to be injured anymore"
Q1 Is it true?
Q2 Can I absolutely know it’s true?
Q3 how do I react? what happens when I believe the thought? Notice I am not asking ‘how do I react when I am injured’? but rather ‘how do I react when I don't want to be’?
How do I treat ‘being injured’?
How do I treat myself when I believe the thought 'I don't want to be injured'?
What is the purpose of believing this thought? What is the advantage to me?
What is to fear if I did not believe the thought? think of what is the worst thing that could happen. once you have realised the worst thing that could happen imagine that as a reality and then think of what is the worst thing that could happen in that reality? keep on doing that. keep on imagining worse and worse things. and keep on asking whats the worst thing that could happen. do that for as long as you need to.
What am I not able to do when I believe the thought ‘I don’t want to be injured’?
What does it cost me to believe the thought 'I don't want to be injured'? What is the price I am paying by believing it?
Q4 who or what would I be without the thought?
Turnarounds - how could the following be true? (give 3 examples for each turnaround)
My thinking would have me believe I don’t want to be injured
- Because
- Because
- Because
I am willing to be injured
- Because
- Because
- Because
I look forward to being injured.
- Because
- Because
- Because
now DO NOT skip any questions. its good to go in this order trust me dude. try to spend a lot of time on each question. become really still and really feel everything. feel the physical sensations in the body, any contracted feelings and observe the way they move or become more and less intense etc. see thoughts and images that arise and examine them.
im not really qualified to give you this info, i got this info from an instructor on the work helpline, maybe you should go on the helpline or something,
you can email me if you want on ma.khan6971@gmail.com
Kindest regards and best wishes
Marion Skinner oh my god you just did my work I was SHOCKED at the ankle part I do the EXACT SAME my lord this was the greatest realization I had so far oh my god thank you!!!!
I recommend these facebook groups
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Ossie Richards I
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Thanks for your suggestion... to keep me loving what is...