I spent a lot of the show trying to defend Bojack but waiting a whole goddamn 17 minutes to call an ambulance was so selfish and inhumane. I understand not wanting to get caught but shit that's a whole human life he could have saved
Exactly. And earlier I used to think that she must have died within few minutes, but when Biscuits Braxby said she died in the hospital, I was shook and so disappointed in Bojack. :(
At the very least, he could've done what he did in New Mexico, and just dropped her off at the hospital. Or he could've called right away, and then left. I mean yeah, it would be shitty for him to leave, but she would've at least had a chance then. Multiple things he could've done that wouldn't have necessarily gotten him into trouble. .... but he chose to just fucking wait. Man. I really did not like his character AT ALL until around season 5.
@@Piloe In the US if you call an ambulance for a OD and don’t flee the scene you are immune to getting arrested assuming everyone is consenting adult age, that’s what I never understood about that scene, this is common information in the drug community, also you can’t get arrested because you gave drugs to someone and they died, you have to have the drugs on you with enough of an intent to sell for that to ever hold up in law
@@thegothicvulcan807 he did not get put into prison after it was surfaced either though. the angle was that he did a shitty thing and didnt want his reputation to be tarnishedi. it was an extremely selfish move
I love how his existential "philosophical speech" is basically an excuse for him to be like "all that matters is right now, so all the mistakes i did in the past don't matter, right?"
Even if he's right, the problem is the right now. Even if all the mistakes in the past could be rectified by rehabilitation and recompense, even if he might get better in the future. But in the present, he hasn't changed, and is still doing the things that caused harm in the past and continue to do so in the future, in this very scene and its immediate offscreen follow-up. Wanting to change, wanting to leave the rut of your past behind isn't enough. It has to motivate you to act differently in the present.
The thing is I am think I am the polar opposite of this characters of this show (and this is why I never liked it): 1. Everyone makes mistakes. Those are in the past and what is done is done. 2. Does making amends make *you* feel better about yourself or is it really about other people (who most likely went ahead with their lives and don't really care anymore). 3. Learn from you mistakes and make new ones to learn from. The cycle begins anew. 4. You might never actually be happy. Face it and move along. Maybe then you'd realize that happiness isn't the end goal, it's the things you do to get you out of your current state that make you... you. 5. If nobody likes you boohoo. Who cares! You decide what you are, not others.
@@DeltaPi314 ok but Bo Jack continues to hurt people around him and that's the problem. Mistakes are one thing but there's no excuse for exploiting people over and over again.
Yeah. Since the beginning of the bender, he’s only been *using* sara lynn with no intentions of actually being there for her. She tries to open up to him and he diverts, she shares her dreams and aspirations and he goes on about what hes got in his own head instead of entertaining a conversation with HER thoughts. Then he waits 17 minutes after she OD’s to create an alibi for himself, instead of getting her the help she desperately needed. No matter how much he regretted it or changed for the better afterwards, Bojack was a toxic and destructive presence in sara lynn’s life, right to the very end. Like others, she would have been way better off without him.
At the beginning of this episode they run over a kids playhouse and she says "It needs to have a strong foundation dumb shits!" . . .just a glimpse into how great of an architect she could've been
Hands down the worst thing he did was to wait a whole 17 minutes. Not wanting to get caught is understandable but when someone's life is at risk, you need to put your fears aside and be there for them, get them help and do something. He could have walked away after he saw that she got medical treatment but instead chose to sit there and prolong that girl's suffering. I loved this show but this was the worst part for me.
The thing is legally he couldn’t have gotten in trouble that’s what I don’t understand about the scene, I mean I get it’s a TV show and what they were getting at, but still there was a law put out exactly for a instance like this that’s specifically states that if you call 911 for a OD, and you stay to watch the person, on drugs or not, you’re immune to possession charges
@@thegothicvulcan807 His image would have suffered. Its a really bad look if an Oscar nominee ODs on a months long bender with you. And for Bojack his image was all he had to show for
@@bucketlist3727 You mean the same guy who drove drunk across town on multiple instances and shouted on a drunken drug filled bender with Sarah Lynn in the middle of the night really worried about how people perceived his drug usage? Idk, seems like a stretch
@@tonygordon7571 So if you thought one of your closet friends just died right next to you you'd go outside and wait 17 minutes before calling 911 hmm okay.
@@nappyk96 That's not what I said. And anyway if you were sure that someone died what the hell does it matter when you call the police to pick up the body? This wasn't really a situation where it is time sensitive that the police comes (like a crime scene for example), and if by waiting some time you could avoid some trouble for yourself then why not? If the person is already dead it's not like you're making them a disservice. You should worry about the living not the dead. I don't remember well the situation, but the problem here was that he was wrong thinking she was dead, and since he's not a doctor he should have thought that he could be mistaken and he should have called an ambulance immediately. But you should also take into account that he was on drugs so he probably wasn't thinking that clearly. Anyway I don't wanna argue about this, my point was that I don't think this was the shittiest thing he did. I mean it probably had the worst outcome (someone probably dying because of his behaviour), but it wasn't done maliciously, if I remember correctly he thought she was dead so in his mind he wasn't hurting anyone, just covering his ass).
I love Bojack as a character in terms of writing but he is genuinely irredeemable. His whole philosophical speech here was insincere, it was just him trying to show that his previous mistakes don't matter and the only thing that matters is now, which isn't true. Bojack is severely self-absorbed to the point where he won't call the ambulance immediately after knowing Sarah Lynn was unconscious, because he didn't want to be caught! True irredeemability that is well written, good job Bojack Horseman.
Me and my Girlfriend watch this episode and i just told her about everything that was wrong with me that episode made me and my girlfriend reach a deeper bond.
@@user-ww2rq9dd4qI have seen stomachs get pumped and people be brought back from coding. So yeah, she probably could have been saved had he not waited until he was sure she died. He could have done chest compressions while waiting for help.
It blows my mind that Bojack said Sara Lynn was the only girl he ever really loved. He watched her grow up. She was with him during the best time in his life. And I guess he let her down in the end. RIP Sara Lynn ❤
Bojack got his grand epiphany from the universe just in time to test its application. We're all just meaningless specks in an infinite universe, now test that against overdosing the closest thing you've ever had to a daughter and you get to feel a bit of bojacks dilemma.
@@blindknitter The two are not mutually exclusive. The best drugs often give the best epiphanies, and clearly have a better safety profile than what BoJack and Sarah Lynn took.
First time I watched this show, I was always rooting for Bojack to be better. Looking back now, its amazing the audience put up with him as much as we did
The bad thing is that Bojack KNEW he wouldn't go to prison for what he did, he knew he was protected by the law, he knew that he wouldn't get charged but he still waited those 17 fucking minutes to stop himself from looking bad and ruining his career. What makes this even more fucked is the fact that Bojack thought she died in the planetarium and instead of taking her to the hospital he abandoned her. Funny thing is that if Bojack just took Sarah to the hospital, people would still get mad at him but the whole thing would've blown over cause Sarah would still be alive and because there would be no reason for the journalists to investigate and for him to almost die.
I honestly don't think Bojack is a selfish person, I think he is weak. If Bojack had a stronger heart and didn't rely on being popular, I think his life would have turned out better.
Bojack is an interesting character in terms of writing and genuine psychology but, as a person and a man. He is just a bad person and it was interesting to see in the final season and final episode that people finally woke up in a way. They kinda just realized they can’t always be there for him. That he is the reason why everything bad happens to him. It was interesting seeing Diane see him again and she looked at him with disgust, bitterness, and ultimately pity. I feel as though she went because she needed to say goodbye to Bojack as well as Princess Carolyn inviting him. Its just sad because Sarah Lynn won’t get this development or closure and was kinda doomed to never get it because Bojack was there in her formative years.
its sad he only said wut his fear was and he said it to mke him feel better Because in that episode you can tell throughout he always ignored what she had to say that was about her and how she felt he always distracted her and never really talked about it and it lead to her nvr gettin it off her chest Even though he tried to distract her it never got undone
i remember laughing when i first saw this scene because i thought the angle was an mst3k reference, could still very well be but boy did it become such a haunting angle
Now of course it was wrong of him to wait 17 minutes but you can still understand why he did it. Ever since he was a child he wanted to be famous especially being negatively dismissing by his own mom. The thought of his own career being ruined and going back to the dismissive young horseman he was back then probably terrified him to the core. I know some people say he knew he wouldn't get arrested but still did it anyways are lying. We don't know if he know or not. The guy went on a drugged out fender bender and would forget things multiple times so what's to say he also couldn't have thought of it in the moment, especially with him being as scared as he was? Not saying that's objective but it's a possible theory.
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I wanna be an architect
That’s too much man.
You got this homie
Neigh
Why do you hurt me in this way
Never stop dancing
I spent a lot of the show trying to defend Bojack but waiting a whole goddamn 17 minutes to call an ambulance was so selfish and inhumane. I understand not wanting to get caught but shit that's a whole human life he could have saved
Exactly. And earlier I used to think that she must have died within few minutes, but when Biscuits Braxby said she died in the hospital, I was shook and so disappointed in Bojack. :(
At the very least, he could've done what he did in New Mexico, and just dropped her off at the hospital.
Or he could've called right away, and then left. I mean yeah, it would be shitty for him to leave, but she would've at least had a chance then.
Multiple things he could've done that wouldn't have necessarily gotten him into trouble.
.... but he chose to just fucking wait. Man. I really did not like his character AT ALL until around season 5.
I guess he waited 17 minutes because if they knew he gave her the drugs that killed her, he would be put in prison
@@Piloe In the US if you call an ambulance for a OD and don’t flee the scene you are immune to getting arrested assuming everyone is consenting adult age, that’s what I never understood about that scene, this is common information in the drug community, also you can’t get arrested because you gave drugs to someone and they died, you have to have the drugs on you with enough of an intent to sell for that to ever hold up in law
@@thegothicvulcan807 he did not get put into prison after it was surfaced either though. the angle was that he did a shitty thing and didnt want his reputation to be tarnishedi.
it was an extremely selfish move
I love how his existential "philosophical speech" is basically an excuse for him to be like "all that matters is right now, so all the mistakes i did in the past don't matter, right?"
Even if he's right, the problem is the right now. Even if all the mistakes in the past could be rectified by rehabilitation and recompense, even if he might get better in the future. But in the present, he hasn't changed, and is still doing the things that caused harm in the past and continue to do so in the future, in this very scene and its immediate offscreen follow-up. Wanting to change, wanting to leave the rut of your past behind isn't enough. It has to motivate you to act differently in the present.
The thing is I am think I am the polar opposite of this characters of this show (and this is why I never liked it):
1. Everyone makes mistakes. Those are in the past and what is done is done.
2. Does making amends make *you* feel better about yourself or is it really about other people (who most likely went ahead with their lives and don't really care anymore).
3. Learn from you mistakes and make new ones to learn from. The cycle begins anew.
4. You might never actually be happy. Face it and move along. Maybe then you'd realize that happiness isn't the end goal, it's the things you do to get you out of your current state that make you... you.
5. If nobody likes you boohoo. Who cares! You decide what you are, not others.
@@DeltaPi314
Did you even watch the show
@@DeltaPi314thats the shole show thats the point watch the show again its a legitimate masterpiece with that exact message.
@@DeltaPi314 ok but Bo Jack continues to hurt people around him and that's the problem. Mistakes are one thing but there's no excuse for exploiting people over and over again.
“This spectacular moment we share together right now”
He wasn’t even listening. She died alone while he thought about how he’d be remembered.
fr, he just said what he wanted to hear, not what sarah lynn needed. u can clearly see how he took advantage of her, that’s so sad
Yeah. Since the beginning of the bender, he’s only been *using* sara lynn with no intentions of actually being there for her. She tries to open up to him and he diverts, she shares her dreams and aspirations and he goes on about what hes got in his own head instead of entertaining a conversation with HER thoughts. Then he waits 17 minutes after she OD’s to create an alibi for himself, instead of getting her the help she desperately needed. No matter how much he regretted it or changed for the better afterwards, Bojack was a toxic and destructive presence in sara lynn’s life, right to the very end. Like others, she would have been way better off without him.
She technically died in the hospital
Technically she only died once she got to the hospital but yeah he didn't even notice she was unconscious.
He really could’ve saved her but he waited 17 minutes to call the ambulance
I don't think so, she would died anyways. Atleast that's how I like to think.
Yeah, he failed Herb and now Sarah Lynn.
@@lisettegarcia7013 he didn’t kill Herb?
@@Jackn17_ not physically
@@sonvuong3293 or psychologically. Herb said he had a good life
At the beginning of this episode they run over a kids playhouse and she says "It needs to have a strong foundation dumb shits!" . . .just a glimpse into how great of an architect she could've been
And her destiny. Having BoJack as her foundation
@@umqualquer1085 but sadly he was a weak foundation which in the end made her crumble.
She said something smarter than that, I believe
@@andrewloris3209 she mentioned that the kid needed to use “parallel points to support that foundation, dumbshit”
Hands down the worst thing he did was to wait a whole 17 minutes. Not wanting to get caught is understandable but when someone's life is at risk, you need to put your fears aside and be there for them, get them help and do something. He could have walked away after he saw that she got medical treatment but instead chose to sit there and prolong that girl's suffering. I loved this show but this was the worst part for me.
The thing is legally he couldn’t have gotten in trouble that’s what I don’t understand about the scene, I mean I get it’s a TV show and what they were getting at, but still there was a law put out exactly for a instance like this that’s specifically states that if you call 911 for a OD, and you stay to watch the person, on drugs or not, you’re immune to possession charges
@@thegothicvulcan807 His image would have suffered. Its a really bad look if an Oscar nominee ODs on a months long bender with you. And for Bojack his image was all he had to show for
@@thegothicvulcan807 he might not have known that
@@bucketlist3727 You mean the same guy who drove drunk across town on multiple instances and shouted on a drunken drug filled bender with Sarah Lynn in the middle of the night really worried about how people perceived his drug usage? Idk, seems like a stretch
Seventeen minutes.
Still blows my mind I mean he did a lot of shitty things throughout the series that to me at least was the most egregious.
in heaven
@@nappyk96 He thought she was dead
@@tonygordon7571 So if you thought one of your closet friends just died right next to you you'd go outside and wait 17 minutes before calling 911 hmm okay.
@@nappyk96 That's not what I said.
And anyway if you were sure that someone died what the hell does it matter when you call the police to pick up the body? This wasn't really a situation where it is time sensitive that the police comes (like a crime scene for example), and if by waiting some time you could avoid some trouble for yourself then why not? If the person is already dead it's not like you're making them a disservice. You should worry about the living not the dead.
I don't remember well the situation, but the problem here was that he was wrong thinking she was dead, and since he's not a doctor he should have thought that he could be mistaken and he should have called an ambulance immediately. But you should also take into account that he was on drugs so he probably wasn't thinking that clearly.
Anyway I don't wanna argue about this, my point was that I don't think this was the shittiest thing he did. I mean it probably had the worst outcome (someone probably dying because of his behaviour), but it wasn't done maliciously, if I remember correctly he thought she was dead so in his mind he wasn't hurting anyone, just covering his ass).
Those 17 minutes could have saved her
he could’ve have save her but waited 17 minutes, that’s to much man...
I love Bojack as a character in terms of writing but he is genuinely irredeemable. His whole philosophical speech here was insincere, it was just him trying to show that his previous mistakes don't matter and the only thing that matters is now, which isn't true. Bojack is severely self-absorbed to the point where he won't call the ambulance immediately after knowing Sarah Lynn was unconscious, because he didn't want to be caught! True irredeemability that is well written, good job Bojack Horseman.
Me and my Girlfriend watch this episode and i just told her about everything that was wrong with me that episode made me and my girlfriend reach a deeper bond.
Lmao, okay you edgy lil shit
How is it edgy? Lmao
@@orangeman3505 idk man
@@ellieblunden1463 Go outside dude.
u still together lol just curious
Her heart collapsed from overdosing of so many diferent drugs one each other, minutes plus, minutes less. there was no way to greet her..
Nah most likely would be opiods combined with benzos narcan could still save u then
17 minutes is long enough to save people
@@bgos4727 she was already dying at the wnd of this scene bojack wouldn’t have been able to save her anyways
@@user-ww2rq9dd4qI have seen stomachs get pumped and people be brought back from coding. So yeah, she probably could have been saved had he not waited until he was sure she died. He could have done chest compressions while waiting for help.
Just because you forgotten doesn't mean you're forgiven ❤
It blows my mind that Bojack said Sara Lynn was the only girl he ever really loved. He watched her grow up. She was with him during the best time in his life. And I guess he let her down in the end. RIP Sara Lynn ❤
he waited seventeen minutes to call an ambulance. seventeen minutes.
Bojack got his grand epiphany from the universe just in time to test its application. We're all just meaningless specks in an infinite universe, now test that against overdosing the closest thing you've ever had to a daughter and you get to feel a bit of bojacks dilemma.
He's sort of right, like, eventually the universe will completely forget that he let her die. But then he's still got to live with it in the meantime.
That wasn't an epiphany, that was him high.
@@blindknitter The two are not mutually exclusive. The best drugs often give the best epiphanies, and clearly have a better safety profile than what BoJack and Sarah Lynn took.
I just keep going back to those 17 minutes...17 minutes
It’s really sad that her last words were her dream
"The only thing that matters is right now"
Foreshadowing that he is just about to do one of the very very worst things he ever did.
First time I watched this show, I was always rooting for Bojack to be better. Looking back now, its amazing the audience put up with him as much as we did
The bad thing is that Bojack KNEW he wouldn't go to prison for what he did, he knew he was protected by the law, he knew that he wouldn't get charged but he still waited those 17 fucking minutes to stop himself from looking bad and ruining his career. What makes this even more fucked is the fact that Bojack thought she died in the planetarium and instead of taking her to the hospital he abandoned her. Funny thing is that if Bojack just took Sarah to the hospital, people would still get mad at him but the whole thing would've blown over cause Sarah would still be alive and because there would be no reason for the journalists to investigate and for him to almost die.
Hits hard my dude
I honestly don't think Bojack is a selfish person, I think he is weak. If Bojack had a stronger heart and didn't rely on being popular, I think his life would have turned out better.
This made me cry, but so did the episode sooo-
Bojack is an interesting character in terms of writing and genuine psychology but, as a person and a man. He is just a bad person and it was interesting to see in the final season and final episode that people finally woke up in a way. They kinda just realized they can’t always be there for him. That he is the reason why everything bad happens to him. It was interesting seeing Diane see him again and she looked at him with disgust, bitterness, and ultimately pity. I feel as though she went because she needed to say goodbye to Bojack as well as Princess Carolyn inviting him. Its just sad because Sarah Lynn won’t get this development or closure and was kinda doomed to never get it because Bojack was there in her formative years.
I'm actually going to cry.
He said the things she wanted to hear all along when she died
17 minutes, that's almost an entire Pink Floyd song, let that sink in
SARAH LYNN?
Rip queen😕
"how can you make something right when you've made it so wrong?"
Bojack realized too late that it was indeed that moment that mattered - and he failed at it.
When he said he act like it didn’t happen :(
this is too much man
Waiting seventeen mins to call a ambulance… that’s to much man 😔
Don't forget that this is the second person he failed in his life. First Herb, and now Sarah Lynn. Yowza yowza Bo-Bowza!
I know he waited the 17 minutes, but his final chance was the sleezy hotel if you ask me.
“I gave my whole life”
Very nicely done
this is how I felt in my last Situationship ,still had to let it go eventually.
truly wishin you tha best 🤞🏿
its sad he only said wut his fear was and he said it to mke him feel better Because in that episode you can tell throughout he always ignored what she had to say that was about her and how she felt he always distracted her and never really talked about it and it lead to her nvr gettin it off her chest Even though he tried to distract her it never got undone
i remember laughing when i first saw this scene because i thought the angle was an mst3k reference, could still very well be but boy did it become such a haunting angle
greatest show
“that’s to much man!”..
the best
He speaks so philosophically, but waits 17 minutes
Awwwh:(
Una tragedia mayor es que saquen el tema de Lou Reed del final "Perfect day"
Sarrah lynn !!!!!!
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Sarah Lynn?
That's to much man :(
yep
Favorite Episode??
I gotta say the second to last, that episode had a lotta depth and the show really could've ended there.
The view from halfway down, second favourite would be Times Arrow
the old sugarman home & times arrow
@@dani-qy1eu me too this episode very emonitional
All eps, when we could see Bojacks Past n also Beatrice past, what explained why Bojack(and Beatrice) was so messed up, depressed, aggressive, etc.
I don't think Bojack is a good person.
Obviously he isn't
Don't have any sympathy for him
@@jerrygil1965 I’m glad we’re not forced to
That's too much...man
Ouch
Sadness #sad
I don't wanna watch the show again but i can't with the edits
17 minutes
17 minutes. she would still be alive if he had called just a few minutes earlier. bojack is fucking selfish.
oh 🙁
Sarah Lynn?
Song ID?
Od'd on Bojack
17 Minutes...
mhm
sad
17 minutes.
17 mins.
I don’t remember the details, was Sarah Lynn alive at that scene?
no he was pretty much talking to himself, she was unconscious
Now of course it was wrong of him to wait 17 minutes but you can still understand why he did it. Ever since he was a child he wanted to be famous especially being negatively dismissing by his own mom. The thought of his own career being ruined and going back to the dismissive young horseman he was back then probably terrified him to the core. I know some people say he knew he wouldn't get arrested but still did it anyways are lying. We don't know if he know or not. The guy went on a drugged out fender bender and would forget things multiple times so what's to say he also couldn't have thought of it in the moment, especially with him being as scared as he was? Not saying that's objective but it's a possible theory.
Even if you're risking your own freedom if you put someone's life on the line it's your duty to save them
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pretty much
I remember deciding that Sarah Lynn was my favorite character in that episode and then she died
Everyone always feel’s sad for Sarah Lynn but I never did you make bad decisions you get bad results.
Bruh this show fucking destroys me