Hurrem Valide Sultan Olamasa da Kadınlar Saltanatını Bize Açtı Aishe Havsa Valide Sultan Onu Öldürmeye Çalışınca Yüce Haseki Olarak Anıldı Başarısız hurrem Sultan'ın Valide Unvanına İhtiyacı Yoktu Ve Bu Olmadan Osmanlı Devleti'nin Kadın Saltanatını Açan Ana Validesi
@@Valeriee142but other sultanas didn't care about her crown or ring 😂. The only time a sultana admired another sultana is when a Venetian historian wrote that safiye Sultan told that nurbanu was the most beautiful woman she even saw even though she was in her 40s
@@Noname990__ Kosem wasn't only powerful haseki also the most powerful sultan of ottoman dynasty,also consort and regent and she did all that without ahmed!
Hurrem ISNT the strongest in the show, and she ISNT in the strongest in history also. Her only achievement is marrying a sultan, but without him she didn't have any power + the army and ottoman people didn't like her + she didn't play any role in the ottoman Empire/society Here are the strongest ones according to historians and thier achievements : 1 kosem : haseki sultan (favorite of the sultan) , legal of wife of the sultan (ahmed) , valide sultan 3 times (for 2 of her sons and her grandson) , Royal regent for 30 years, she literally ruled the empire for 30+ years, she was loved and supported by both the people and the army and the government (divan) because she was able to depose 4 sultans (osman, mustafa, murad, ibrahim) The wealthiest Sultana because she OWNED the ottoman economy and bank and foreign trade, most charitable sultana , she was the first and the last Buyuk valide sultan (grandmother of the sultan) because she was his Regent despite his mother turhan being alive. Turhan was given title "valide segir" (small valide) while kosem got "valide kebir" (great/big mother sultan) for about 4 to 5 years 2 turhan : longest valide sultan for 34 years, was loved by her son and the ottoman divan (government) , royal regent for 8 years (ruled the empire) , she was the only women to have EQUAL power to a living sultan LEGALLY (her son Mehmet) , most merciful sultana 3 Nurbanu : legal wife of the sultan (selim) , haseki sultan (favorite) , the FIRST valide sultan in ottoman history, she was the first woman to make title "valide sultan" a political title that have authority + she was the first to move to the topkapi Palace (centre of power of the empire close to the government and the capital) where she observed more power , she was also the first co-regent to her husband and son and according to ottoman and venetian historians, nurbanu sultan is the founder of the sultanate of women because she was the first to actually have influence and authority by becoming valide 4 safiye : haseki, valide sultan, one of the wealthiest, one of the most lived (through the reign of 8 sultans from Suleiman to osman/murad) she had great influence through her son 5 halime/handan : both were haseki sultan and valide sultan and both were co-regents and regents to thier sons for 2 years (handan) and 2 to 4 years (halime) 6 rabia sultan : she came after turhan and was extremely powerful as valide and co-regent but she isn't included in the sultanate of women 6 mihrimah : one most powerful imperial princess, one of the richest, daughter of Suleiman the magnificent She ruled the harem as "sadin" alongside nurbanu during the reign of her brother selim until murad ascended where she was sent to the old palace 7 hurrem : haseki sultan (favorite) , legal wife of the sultan (Suleiman) And that's it, she didn't have titles, she didn't change history, she didn't have influence or authority, she didn't achieve anything significant,sye didn't contribute to the ottoman empire and she wasn't liked by the ottoman people, or the government (divan) or the ottoman Royal family,not even the army . Only Suleiman loved her and that was it, she was pretty much a housewife, the only "remembered thing she did was writing letters to the king of Poland IN THE NAME OF THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE (which means Suleiman already saw those letters + all the other sultanas that came after her wrote to other foreign monarch, safiye wrote to Elizabeth the 1st of England, nurbanu wrote to Catharine de medici of France , kosem wrote to almost every neighbor of the ottoman Empire and so on...) , oh and Suleiman also took her advice, SOMETIMES..
For those asking for mihrimah or Hürrem, they weren’t valide sultanas, both were “Valide-i Sa’ide” (Harem’s director) which means they developed the role of a Valide sultan. Valide sultan only is valid for Sultan’s mother.
Mihrimah was given the role and official title. Although she isn't the mother of the prince that ascended and became the Sultan she was the eldest sister and was appointed to be the acting Valide.
@@Rociokirsten that title was never given to her, Valide-i Sa’ide is the only one. She was harem’s director during Süleyman’s reing, Selim’s reing and Murad’s reing (Mihrimah Sultan ruled the harem alongside Valide Nurbanu Sultan in this period)
Valide Sultan is a Turkish words means the sultan mother it's also pronounced in Arabic walide sultan So Mihrimah could never have held this title because she wasn't the mother of the sultan and she didn't have birth to any şah or a sultan , just like the title haski sultan which means the sultan wife , and no one but the women that officially get married to the sultan can held it
@@Rociokirstenaccording to ottoman and venetian history records, nurbanu was the first woman to make valide sultan an official position of power/ political title. By moving to the topkapi palace to exert influence closer to the ruling government (divan) and then becoming valide sultan of murad. During selim's reign mihrimah was given title "sadin" which meant (harem's leader) but that title was also given to nurbanu during the reign of selim . Mihrimah ruled the harem but ALONGSIDE nurbanu. Until mrad ascended she was sent to the old palace forever
Although hurren never got to be valide sultan, she got to be the first woman in Ottoman history to recieve the seat and power of an empress through her Haseki Sultan title.
Hurrem ISNT the strongest in the show, and she ISNT in the strongest in history also. Her only achievement is marrying a sultan, but without him she didn't have any power + the army and ottoman people didn't like her + she didn't play any role in the ottoman Empire/society Here are the strongest ones according to historians and thier achievements : 1 kosem : haseki sultan (favorite of the sultan) , legal of wife of the sultan (ahmed) , valide sultan 3 times (for 2 of her sons and her grandson) , Royal regent for 30 years, she literally ruled the empire for 30+ years, she was loved and supported by both the people and the army and the government (divan) because she was able to depose 4 sultans (osman, mustafa, murad, ibrahim) The wealthiest Sultana because she OWNED the ottoman economy and bank and foreign trade, most charitable sultana , she was the first and the last Buyuk valide sultan (grandmother of the sultan) because she was his Regent despite his mother turhan being alive. Turhan was given title "valide segir" (small valide) while kosem got "valide kebir" (great/big mother sultan) for about 4 to 5 years 2 turhan : longest valide sultan for 34 years, was loved by her son and the ottoman divan (government) , royal regent for 8 years (ruled the empire) , she was the only women to have EQUAL power to a living sultan LEGALLY (her son Mehmet) , most merciful sultana 3 Nurbanu : legal wife of the sultan (selim) , haseki sultan (favorite) , the FIRST valide sultan in ottoman history, she was the first woman to make title "valide sultan" a political title that have authority + she was the first to move to the topkapi Palace (centre of power of the empire close to the government and the capital) where she observed more power , she was also the first co-regent to her husband and son and according to ottoman and venetian historians, nurbanu sultan is the founder of the sultanate of women because she was the first to actually have influence and authority by becoming valide 4 safiye : haseki, valide sultan, one of the wealthiest, one of the most lived (through the reign of 8 sultans from Suleiman to osman/murad) she had great influence through her son 5 halime/handan : both were haseki sultan and valide sultan and both were co-regents and regents to thier sons for 2 years (handan) and 2 to 4 years (halime) 6 rabia sultan : she came after turhan and was extremely powerful as valide and co-regent but she isn't included in the sultanate of women 6 mihrimah : one most powerful imperial princess, one of the richest, daughter of Suleiman the magnificent She ruled the harem as "sadin" alongside nurbanu during the reign of her brother selim until murad ascended where she was sent to the old palace 7 hurrem : haseki sultan (favorite) , legal wife of the sultan (Suleiman) And that's it, she didn't have titles, she didn't change history, she didn't have influence or authority, she didn't achieve anything significant,sye didn't contribute to the ottoman empire and she wasn't liked by the ottoman people, or the government (divan) or the ottoman Royal family,not even the army . Only Suleiman loved her and that was it, she was pretty much a housewife, the only "remembered thing she did was writing letters to the king of Poland IN THE NAME OF THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE (which means Suleiman already saw those letters + all the other sultanas that came after her wrote to other foreign monarch, safiye wrote to Elizabeth the 1st of England, nurbanu wrote to Catharine de medici of France , kosem wrote to almost every neighbor of the ottoman Empire and so on...) , oh and Suleiman also took her advice, SOMETIMES..
For everyone asking for Hurrem and Mirhimah, they were not Valide Sultan. Hurrem died before seeing her son on the throne and Mirhimah was not Valide Sultan. Nurbanu was the first woman to hold both Haseki and Valide title before her son was even on the throne. It was Selim who gave her the Valide title in order to proclaim Murad as the crown prince. When Selim ascended the throne Nurbanu became the head of his Harem and gather a group of powerful people at her service: Gazanfer Agha The chef of white eunuch, Canfeda once her stewardess at Manissa(Kâhyâ), Radiye (Kalfa) who was her forewoman, as well as Esther her lady-in-waiting (Kira) who was a Jewish woman, originated from spain and late wife of the Highly, respected Elijah Handali and she was responsible of Nurbanu's transactions with the exterior world. In Cavilli's relazione it is mentioned that Nurbanu was flaunting in of her twin titles in one breath, "Wife of the Signor" Haseki Sultan and "Mother of Sulta Murath" Valide. The Venitian ambassador further added after Nurbanu's death that she literally surpassed Suleiman's wife Hurrem by assuming the title of Valide Sultan before her son ascended the throne.
That's not true, nurbanu wasn't the valide sultan in selim's era it was mehrimah , nurbanu wasn't that strong during the reign of Sultan Selim especially in front of a very rich Mihrimah who is even richer than the ottoman empire itself, no matter how powerful people she had by her side, it was certainly not as strong as Mihrimah.
@@theprincesssara6219 I will never be able to understand some people urge to discredit someone's statements. It is not that smart to come over someone's comments just to say they are lying while just coming with a theory. I didn't say she was Valide Sultan during her Husband's reign. Just like Hurrem, Nurbanu was the head of Selim's harem. Please, procure yourself the book of Pinar Kayaalp about Nurbanu and her politics in the 16th century, you will understand what I am saying. And how come Mirhimah was so much powerful during her brother's reign while not having any dignitary in the Divan? The most powerful men at that moment were at Nurbanu's service. Of course, Mirhimah was extremely wealthy but wealth wasn't enough to be powerful back then. I never denied the amount of power she got during her father's reign. But it literally changed during Selim's reign. Selim was a reformer like his father and gave the title of Valide Sultan to Nurbanu even before Murad ascended the throne. It was a political move to announce Murad as the crown Prince. I don't think Nurbanu would dare referring herself as such if she didn't have the Sultan's approval. According to Pinar Kayaalp, this transformation regarding of Nurbanu's twin titles is evidenced in an entry dated 23 Ramadan 973 (1570) involving the procurement of marble to be used in the construction of Nurbanu's pious architectural project. In this same document Nurbanu refers to herself exclusively "Mother of my son, the estimable son Murad" while it was Selim who was ruling. Furthermore, Selim acting on behalf of Valide Sultan Nurbanu, orders qadis of sabanci and iznikmid to collect without delay all the marble from fields, meadows and dilapidated buildings of their bailiwicks, fully compensating eligible owners, while refraining from harming any occupied residences......
Mihrimah was valude sultan. Suleiman died And hurrem too then selim become sultan. And yes valide sultan means mother but they didn’t have mother so they put Mihrimah 💀
@@signora1102 Hi. Can you please elaborate more on Prof.Pinar's explanation about why Nurbanu Sultan was a Queen Mother while her husband was alive? (Valide means mother so maybe that's what she basically meant and not queen mother-valide sultan). I don't posses the book so I'd like to see her refrences about her claims. It's hard to believe she was Queen Mother while her husband was still alive. Maybe figuratively but definitely not formally or officially. I don't agree with your statement about Imperial Princess Mihrimah being only wealthy. She was the greatest advisor to her father Süleyman after the death of her mother Hürrem Sultan and was very much involved in politics. When Selim II ascend the throne, eventho Mihrimah wasn't a Queen Mother officially she had a say in every matter. Nurbanu didn't have much power yet as there was a conflict between her and Mihrimah. I did some research and found the doctorate thesis of Prof.Pinar and i quote: “It is not surprising that during Selim’s early reign the new Haseki was out-performed by such an eminent power broker as her sister-in-law Mihrimah. Nurbanu decided not to fight against Mihrimah, whose prestige was too much even for her, and instead started working on a network of allies who could have proved to be useful once Murad was on the throne. It is believed that Mihrimah presented to Murad III the future Queen Safiye who would be Nurabanu's s greatest rival. Nurbanu truly rose to power with her son Murad III ascending the throne.
@@mekmak2580 Hi. Sokullu Mehmet Pasha wasn't married to Mirhimah's daughter. He was Ismihan Sultan's husband and Ismihan Sultan was Nurbanu Sultan's daughter. Making him the most powerful men besides the Sultan's himself, Selim II. As a matter of fact Mirhimah showed no sign of happiness during the marriage of Selim's daughters. If I am not mistaken they had a triple marriage. She was devastated from the news regarding of Bayezid.
@@berlin9564 ohh she was . when her brother selim became king and hurrem was dead by then , she filled in the post of valide sultan . this also made her the first ottoman blood to be valide sultan
@Sorbitol Bilmemneyan well I'm not so whatever I've understood is from the show ...if I'm mistaken then sorry but I'm not at fault here if these shows are spreading misconception
I love turhan but title "muazzama" was only given to kosem. Turhan got "valide segir" title. However turhan is the 2nd most powerful sultana because she was a Regent for 6 years after kosem who was Regent for 3 different sultans for about 30 years
Mihrimah olamaz bu rolü kismen oynasa da bu unvani almadı almaaz da padişahın annesi olup saltanatı sırasında hayatta olan kadınlar valide sultan olur Mihrimahin olması komik olur ona kalsa fatih sultan mehmedin annesi ölmüştür ama babasının eşi üvey annesi Mara hatun bu rolü oynamıştır ev destek olmuştur ama Valide Sultan denemez çünkü değildir
@@JesusGarcia-ye5oz She was only respected as Valide Sultan by her brother Selim II. She would never get a title like that. Even u can't change that. Your son must sit on the throne if you wanna be Valide Sultan. Things work like that you morron
This is divine justice. By killing Prince Mustafa, she was not able to obtain the strongest title that the Sultana could obtain, which is the title of Sultana. Poor mother, Hürrem.
No hablo español, así que traduje esto usando el traductor de Google. Espero que tenga sentido en español. Así que básicamente : - toda mujer que dé a luz a un hijo del sultán se convierte en sultana. - si una sultana da a luz a varios hijos del sultán, se convierte en "haseki sultan", que significa (el favorito del sultán) - cuando un sultán fallece, su hijo se convierte en el nuevo sultán y su madre se convierte en "valide sultán", que significa (madre del sultán), sin embargo, este título fue creado por nurbanu Sultan, ella lo convirtió en una posición oficial de poder y política. título, por lo que cualquier sultán válido tenía autoridad sobre el palacio y el estado de su hijo le permitía - si el sultán es demasiado joven para gobernar, su madre gobierna en su lugar como regente, sin embargo, esto era poco común porque el "diván" (parlamento) gobierna en los primeros días del imperio otomano, hasta el reinado de handan cuando ella se convirtió en regente pero por solo 2 años, kosem sultana es la sultana más poderosa porque fue regente durante 30 años de 2 de sus hijos y 1 de sus nietos. Otros títulos también significan: valide muazzama que significa la madre magnífica, este era el título de kosem sultan, ella también tenía otros 14 títulos como "valide kebir" (la gran madre), valide buyuk sultan (gran madre sultana), etc. Turhan El sultán tenía el título de "valide segir" (pequeña madre sultán) porque su hijo era el sultán pero tenía 6 años, por lo que Turhan y Kosem gobernaron juntos, pero Kosem tenía un estatus y autoridad más altos. Espero que esto haya ayudado❤
Mahfiruze Sultan should be there. She was Valide Sultan for 2 years. Yes most people will tell you she died before Osman ascended the throne or was exile or there is not enough information about her. But it is not true. She did saw her son's reign for 2 years and died of diseases. If you want the sources just ask me and no need to be violent and disrespectful.
Nope, Mahfiruze was never a sultan,please. According to historian Leslie P. Peirce and many others "She may have been alive when her son Osman ascended the throne but she wasn't living in the palace, nor did she act as a valide, as privy purse registers listed no valide sultan during Osman's reign".
@@lol4lol993 Pierce made many mistakes in her book. She claimed that Mahfiruze Sultan was either sent to the old palace or died before Osman could ascend the throne which is false. Mahfiruze was Valide Sultan from 1618 to 1620 and later her sister Sahinçan Hatun looked after Osman and was respected and his Harem as his Valide Sultan. Because I will be listing Which ambassadors and historians supports the claim (the fact) that she was not only a powerful Haseki but a Valide Sultan as well.
@@signora1102 Why don't you cite your source already? Instead of blabbering, do us a favour and provide some solid basis of your argument. I'm not insisting that what I found stands right. So, let us just see what you have to offer.
@@lol4lol993 Do not worry about me coming with my sources. To write an instructive paragraph it takes time and I don't want to mess up a country's history. Now let's begin. It is true that the well respected historian Pierce stated that it is not very clear what truly happened to Mahfiruze Sultan. She was either sent to the old palace after a dispute with Kosem and died before her son ascended the throne. But those claims are erroneous. Let me start with the first claim that she was sent to the old palace which is most likely false because according to the historian Dimitri Kandemir it was Ahmet fourth wife, his Haseki of Georgian origin and her name was Shahzaman and she came from the Cholokashvili Dynasty, who was sent to the old palace. That incident occurred in 1612. That Haseki was sent to the old palace with her daughter. It is true that at that moment Mahfiruze felt out of favor but she managed to stay in the palace and later on, according to the French ambassador Christofo Vallier, Mahfiruze Sultan gave birth to Prince Huseyn and this birth was much welcomed by Ahmet. He was so happy that he made her family come to the capital and celebrate (She was a Circassian princess and if you want to know the dispute that happened between her and Ahmet because of her support for Mehmet Giray around 1608 tell me.) Sehzade Huseyn birth was welcomed by great festive just like Sehzade Osman. The historian Agafangel Krimski also supports this. The second of her claim is that she died before she son ascended the throne, is also false. According to the Venitian ambassador Giorgio Giustinian, in 1620 after the Valide Sultan's death, the Circassian princess, it was to his nanny that Osman gave such position. He continued by saying that it is not surprising at all since since the nanny, is the sister of the deceased Valide Sultan and wife of Abaza Mehmet pasha. That woman's name is Sahinçan Hatun and is the mother of Hasan Agha. The historian Joseph Matuz also supports this, and in his report he said: "After the death of Valide Sultan, Daye Hatun became the head of the Palace and with the permission of Osman II, she was given a salary of 3000 Asper". Furthermore, the historian Joseph Von Hammer-Purgstall supports the claim of her death in 1620 and even brought up the rumors about Kosem poisoning Mahfiruze Sultan. He further gave the reason of her death and the circumstances as well. Other historian and ambassadors support those claims as well and most were contemporary historians and ambassadors who lived during that era.
@@lol4lol993 It is not what I have to offer. I am just a humble lover of historian who will bring what historian and ambassadors actually wrote in their reports and researchs.
Valide sultan means the mother of the sultan. The title was created during the reign of selim for nurbanu. Hurrem passed away before her son was on the throne
It was such a pity that Hurrem died before any of her sons ascended the throne.
That's good. She did not have to witness Selim killing Byazid and his family.
Hurrem Valide Sultan Olamasa da Kadınlar Saltanatını Bize Açtı Aishe Havsa Valide Sultan Onu Öldürmeye Çalışınca Yüce Haseki Olarak Anıldı Başarısız hurrem Sultan'ın Valide Unvanına İhtiyacı Yoktu Ve Bu Olmadan Osmanlı Devleti'nin Kadın Saltanatını Açan Ana Validesi
@@satavisharakshit if she was alive at that time she would've prevented it.
@@satavisharakshitSelim loved his sister so he made Mihrimah Valide
@@Bermuda_triangle_2 not Valide, because Valide is the Mother of the sultan
Kosem was the sultan herself😂😂
The fact that even tho hurrem wasn’t a vailde sultan her ring and crown symbolized power and whoever held it was in power she is the best ❤
Why wasn't she?
i thought it's just for the drama, none of it exist in real life though?
@@nlab404no her crown and ring did existed in real life
@@Valeriee142but other sultanas didn't care about her crown or ring 😂. The only time a sultana admired another sultana is when a Venetian historian wrote that safiye Sultan told that nurbanu was the most beautiful woman she even saw even though she was in her 40s
@Valeriee142 I don't know about the crown, but the ring was fictional
kosem sultan was the most powerful out of all of them
Empress Haseiki Hurrem Sultan.
No need to be Valide.
She is more than all .
You are absolutely right
Yes shes better than them❤
Yes I agree we all agree but unfortunately she died before any of her sons claimed the throne
Exactly!! Hurrem had all that power while Haseki actually Hurrem and Kosem were the only powerful Hasekis :) turhan basically ruined everything
@@Noname990__ Kosem wasn't only powerful haseki also the most powerful sultan of ottoman dynasty,also consort and regent and she did all that without ahmed!
Hurrem has been acting the Valide Sultan anyway. ❤😂
She wasn't😂 she was weak, just a housewife
Hurrem ISNT the strongest in the show, and she ISNT in the strongest in history also. Her only achievement is marrying a sultan, but without him she didn't have any power + the army and ottoman people didn't like her
+ she didn't play any role in the ottoman Empire/society
Here are the strongest ones according to historians and thier achievements :
1 kosem : haseki sultan (favorite of the sultan) , legal of wife of the sultan (ahmed) , valide sultan 3 times (for 2 of her sons and her grandson) ,
Royal regent for 30 years, she literally ruled the empire for 30+ years, she was loved and supported by both the people and the army and the government (divan) because she was able to depose 4 sultans (osman, mustafa, murad, ibrahim)
The wealthiest Sultana because she OWNED the ottoman economy and bank and foreign trade, most charitable sultana , she was the first and the last Buyuk valide sultan (grandmother of the sultan) because she was his Regent despite his mother turhan being alive. Turhan was given title "valide segir" (small valide) while kosem got "valide kebir" (great/big mother sultan) for about 4 to 5 years
2 turhan : longest valide sultan for 34 years, was loved by her son and the ottoman divan (government) , royal regent for 8 years (ruled the empire) , she was the only women to have EQUAL power to a living sultan LEGALLY (her son Mehmet) , most merciful sultana
3 Nurbanu : legal wife of the sultan (selim) , haseki sultan (favorite) , the FIRST valide sultan in ottoman history, she was the first woman to make title "valide sultan" a political title that have authority + she was the first to move to the topkapi Palace (centre of power of the empire close to the government and the capital) where she observed more power , she was also the first co-regent to her husband and son and according to ottoman and venetian historians, nurbanu sultan is the founder of the sultanate of women because she was the first to actually have influence and authority by becoming valide
4 safiye : haseki, valide sultan, one of the wealthiest, one of the most lived (through the reign of 8 sultans from Suleiman to osman/murad) she had great influence through her son
5 halime/handan : both were haseki sultan and valide sultan and both were co-regents and regents to thier sons for 2 years (handan) and 2 to 4 years (halime)
6 rabia sultan : she came after turhan and was extremely powerful as valide and co-regent but she isn't included in the sultanate of women
6 mihrimah : one most powerful imperial princess, one of the richest, daughter of Suleiman the magnificent
She ruled the harem as "sadin" alongside nurbanu during the reign of her brother selim until murad ascended where she was sent to the old palace
7 hurrem : haseki sultan (favorite) , legal wife of the sultan (Suleiman)
And that's it, she didn't have titles, she didn't change history, she didn't have influence or authority, she didn't achieve anything significant,sye didn't contribute to the ottoman empire and she wasn't liked by the ottoman people, or the government (divan) or the ottoman Royal family,not even the army .
Only Suleiman loved her and that was it, she was pretty much a housewife, the only "remembered thing she did was writing letters to the king of Poland IN THE NAME OF THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE (which means Suleiman already saw those letters + all the other sultanas that came after her wrote to other foreign monarch, safiye wrote to Elizabeth the 1st of England, nurbanu wrote to Catharine de medici of France , kosem wrote to almost every neighbor of the ottoman Empire and so on...) , oh and Suleiman also took her advice, SOMETIMES..
Ayse Sultan was an icon
Say anything but ayse was the most beautiful vailde sultan ❤️
Ayse and halime
Handan Sultan 💗
She's so underrated too
Kosem slayed more than others💋🔥
Kosem Sultan my favourite Sultana
For those asking for mihrimah or Hürrem, they weren’t valide sultanas, both were “Valide-i Sa’ide” (Harem’s director) which means they developed the role of a Valide sultan. Valide sultan only is valid for Sultan’s mother.
Mihrimah was given the role and official title. Although she isn't the mother of the prince that ascended and became the Sultan she was the eldest sister and was appointed to be the acting Valide.
@@Rociokirsten that title was never given to her, Valide-i Sa’ide is the only one. She was harem’s director during Süleyman’s reing, Selim’s reing and Murad’s reing (Mihrimah Sultan ruled the harem alongside Valide Nurbanu Sultan in this period)
Valide Sultan is a Turkish words means the sultan mother it's also pronounced in Arabic walide sultan
So Mihrimah could never have held this title because she wasn't the mother of the sultan and she didn't have birth to any şah or a sultan , just like the title haski sultan which means the sultan wife , and no one but the women that officially get married to the sultan can held it
@@Rociokirstenaccording to ottoman and venetian history records, nurbanu was the first woman to make valide sultan an official position of power/ political title. By moving to the topkapi palace to exert influence closer to the ruling government (divan) and then becoming valide sultan of murad. During selim's reign mihrimah was given title "sadin" which meant (harem's leader) but that title was also given to nurbanu during the reign of selim .
Mihrimah ruled the harem but ALONGSIDE nurbanu. Until mrad ascended she was sent to the old palace forever
@@grandetristesse3370 Thanks for responding♡
Ayse Hafsa and Safiye were so elegent 😍 All of them are but these two are just something else
walidaeee kosem sultan entry was op
Although hurren never got to be valide sultan, she got to be the first woman in Ottoman history to recieve the seat and power of an empress through her Haseki Sultan title.
"The power of an empress" lol 😂nice joke. But no she was just a housewife
Hurrem ISNT the strongest in the show, and she ISNT in the strongest in history also. Her only achievement is marrying a sultan, but without him she didn't have any power + the army and ottoman people didn't like her
+ she didn't play any role in the ottoman Empire/society
Here are the strongest ones according to historians and thier achievements :
1 kosem : haseki sultan (favorite of the sultan) , legal of wife of the sultan (ahmed) , valide sultan 3 times (for 2 of her sons and her grandson) ,
Royal regent for 30 years, she literally ruled the empire for 30+ years, she was loved and supported by both the people and the army and the government (divan) because she was able to depose 4 sultans (osman, mustafa, murad, ibrahim)
The wealthiest Sultana because she OWNED the ottoman economy and bank and foreign trade, most charitable sultana , she was the first and the last Buyuk valide sultan (grandmother of the sultan) because she was his Regent despite his mother turhan being alive. Turhan was given title "valide segir" (small valide) while kosem got "valide kebir" (great/big mother sultan) for about 4 to 5 years
2 turhan : longest valide sultan for 34 years, was loved by her son and the ottoman divan (government) , royal regent for 8 years (ruled the empire) , she was the only women to have EQUAL power to a living sultan LEGALLY (her son Mehmet) , most merciful sultana
3 Nurbanu : legal wife of the sultan (selim) , haseki sultan (favorite) , the FIRST valide sultan in ottoman history, she was the first woman to make title "valide sultan" a political title that have authority + she was the first to move to the topkapi Palace (centre of power of the empire close to the government and the capital) where she observed more power , she was also the first co-regent to her husband and son and according to ottoman and venetian historians, nurbanu sultan is the founder of the sultanate of women because she was the first to actually have influence and authority by becoming valide
4 safiye : haseki, valide sultan, one of the wealthiest, one of the most lived (through the reign of 8 sultans from Suleiman to osman/murad) she had great influence through her son
5 halime/handan : both were haseki sultan and valide sultan and both were co-regents and regents to thier sons for 2 years (handan) and 2 to 4 years (halime)
6 rabia sultan : she came after turhan and was extremely powerful as valide and co-regent but she isn't included in the sultanate of women
6 mihrimah : one most powerful imperial princess, one of the richest, daughter of Suleiman the magnificent
She ruled the harem as "sadin" alongside nurbanu during the reign of her brother selim until murad ascended where she was sent to the old palace
7 hurrem : haseki sultan (favorite) , legal wife of the sultan (Suleiman)
And that's it, she didn't have titles, she didn't change history, she didn't have influence or authority, she didn't achieve anything significant,sye didn't contribute to the ottoman empire and she wasn't liked by the ottoman people, or the government (divan) or the ottoman Royal family,not even the army .
Only Suleiman loved her and that was it, she was pretty much a housewife, the only "remembered thing she did was writing letters to the king of Poland IN THE NAME OF THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE (which means Suleiman already saw those letters + all the other sultanas that came after her wrote to other foreign monarch, safiye wrote to Elizabeth the 1st of England, nurbanu wrote to Catharine de medici of France , kosem wrote to almost every neighbor of the ottoman Empire and so on...) , oh and Suleiman also took her advice, SOMETIMES..
it doesn't make hurrem powerful nor special that she started the sultanate of women.
-Ïlk Valide Ayşe Hafsa Sultan (1475-1534)
-Atınk-Valide Haseki Afife Nurbanu Sultan
(1525-1583)
-Büyük-Valide Saadet Cihan İzzet Raziye Melike Safiye sultan (1550-1619)
-Na'ibe Saltanat Valide Handan
sultan
(1568-1605)
-Na'ibe Saltanat Valide Atunşah Halime sultan (1571-1623)
-Na'ibe Saltanat Büyük-Valide Muazzama ikebir Makbule Hatice Mahpeyker Köşem sultan(1589-1651)
Hurrem was not a valide sultan but she was lucky from all of them because she passed away in the presence of her husband and her husband loved so much
They're all still more powerful then her
@@grandetristesse3370
Fax especially kosem and turhan who weren't only valide sultans but also official regents
Empress of Ottoman Empire Valide Kosem sultana👸👑
Kösem the most powerfull Sultana
For everyone asking for Hurrem and Mirhimah, they were not Valide Sultan. Hurrem died before seeing her son on the throne and Mirhimah was not Valide Sultan.
Nurbanu was the first woman to hold both Haseki and Valide title before her son was even on the throne. It was Selim who gave her the Valide title in order to proclaim Murad as the crown prince.
When Selim ascended the throne Nurbanu became the head of his Harem and gather a group of powerful people at her service: Gazanfer Agha The chef of white eunuch, Canfeda once her stewardess at Manissa(Kâhyâ), Radiye (Kalfa) who was her forewoman, as well as Esther her lady-in-waiting (Kira) who was a Jewish woman, originated from spain and late wife of the Highly, respected Elijah Handali and she was responsible of Nurbanu's transactions with the exterior world.
In Cavilli's relazione it is mentioned that Nurbanu was flaunting in of her twin titles in one breath, "Wife of the Signor" Haseki Sultan and "Mother of Sulta Murath" Valide.
The Venitian ambassador further added after Nurbanu's death that she literally surpassed Suleiman's wife Hurrem by assuming the title of Valide Sultan before her son ascended the throne.
That's not true, nurbanu wasn't the valide sultan in selim's era it was mehrimah , nurbanu wasn't that strong during the reign of Sultan Selim especially in front of a very rich Mihrimah who is even richer than the ottoman empire itself, no matter how powerful people she had by her side, it was certainly not as strong as Mihrimah.
@@theprincesssara6219 I will never be able to understand some people urge to discredit someone's statements. It is not that smart to come over someone's comments just to say they are lying while just coming with a theory. I didn't say she was Valide Sultan during her Husband's reign. Just like Hurrem, Nurbanu was the head of Selim's harem.
Please, procure yourself the book of Pinar Kayaalp about Nurbanu and her politics in the 16th century, you will understand what I am saying.
And how come Mirhimah was so much powerful during her brother's reign while not having any dignitary in the Divan? The most powerful men at that moment were at Nurbanu's service. Of course, Mirhimah was extremely wealthy but wealth wasn't enough to be powerful back then. I never denied the amount of power she got during her father's reign. But it literally changed during Selim's reign. Selim was a reformer like his father and gave the title of Valide Sultan to Nurbanu even before Murad ascended the throne. It was a political move to announce Murad as the crown Prince. I don't think Nurbanu would dare referring herself as such if she didn't have the Sultan's approval. According to Pinar Kayaalp, this transformation regarding of Nurbanu's twin titles is evidenced in an entry dated 23 Ramadan 973 (1570) involving the procurement of marble to be used in the construction of Nurbanu's pious architectural project. In this same document Nurbanu refers to herself exclusively "Mother of my son, the estimable son Murad" while it was Selim who was ruling. Furthermore, Selim acting on behalf of Valide Sultan Nurbanu, orders qadis of sabanci and iznikmid to collect without delay all the marble from fields, meadows and dilapidated buildings of their bailiwicks, fully compensating eligible owners, while refraining from harming any occupied residences......
Mihrimah was valude sultan. Suleiman died And hurrem too then selim become sultan. And yes valide sultan means mother but they didn’t have mother so they put Mihrimah 💀
@@signora1102 Hi. Can you please elaborate more on Prof.Pinar's explanation about why Nurbanu Sultan was a Queen Mother while her husband was alive? (Valide means mother so maybe that's what she basically meant and not queen mother-valide sultan). I don't posses the book so I'd like to see her refrences about her claims. It's hard to believe she was Queen Mother while her husband was still alive. Maybe figuratively but definitely not formally or officially.
I don't agree with your statement about Imperial Princess Mihrimah being only wealthy. She was the greatest advisor to her father Süleyman after the death of her mother Hürrem Sultan and was very much involved in politics. When Selim II ascend the throne, eventho Mihrimah wasn't a Queen Mother officially she had a say in every matter. Nurbanu didn't have much power yet as there was a conflict between her and Mihrimah.
I did some research and found the doctorate thesis of Prof.Pinar and i quote:
“It is not surprising that during Selim’s early reign the new Haseki was out-performed by such an eminent power broker as her sister-in-law Mihrimah. Nurbanu decided not to fight against Mihrimah, whose prestige was too much even for her, and instead started working on a network of allies who could have proved to be useful once Murad was on the throne.
It is believed that Mihrimah presented to Murad III the future Queen Safiye who would be Nurabanu's s greatest rival. Nurbanu truly rose to power with her son Murad III ascending the throne.
@@mekmak2580 Hi.
Sokullu Mehmet Pasha wasn't married to Mirhimah's daughter. He was Ismihan Sultan's husband and Ismihan Sultan was Nurbanu Sultan's daughter. Making him the most powerful men besides the Sultan's himself, Selim II. As a matter of fact Mirhimah showed no sign of happiness during the marriage of Selim's daughters. If I am not mistaken they had a triple marriage. She was devastated from the news regarding of Bayezid.
Legends are waiting for valide Hurrem sultan 😁
She was never valide, the other sultanas were valide and they controlled the empire while hurrem was just a housewife
She's too weak to be valide, other sultanas ruled the empire, hurrem was a housewife
Halime is just beautiful
Kosem sultan best
YES , WHERE IS VALIDE MIHRIMAH SULTAN 👑
she was not valid sultan
@@berlin9564 ohh she was . when her brother selim became king and hurrem was dead by then , she filled in the post of valide sultan . this also made her the first ottoman blood to be valide sultan
@sorbitolbilmemneyan1510Yes, she was given this title
@Sorbitol Bilmemneyan watch the show
@Sorbitol Bilmemneyan well I'm not so whatever I've understood is from the show ...if I'm mistaken then sorry but I'm not at fault here if these shows are spreading misconception
Haima Hatun Feeling Proud Of Them And Halime Sultan Also👑
Some people really don’t know the meaning of valide
Hahah 😅
Exactly. It means mother. Valide Sultan means Mother of Sultan.
Todas tan hermosas, nacidas en otras tierras, poderosas y unas diosas bailando, con hijos maravillosos
İlk Valide Sultan Malhun Sultan İkinci Vali'de Nilüfer Sultan👸👸👸
Hüremmm......😞
Turhan Sultan >>>
Halime 🔥
Hafsa Sultan çok güzel
Kösem sultannnn ❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
Destuur! First haseki Hurrem Shah sultan hazretleri👑🧡
*first legal wife
All sultanas were haseki (it means sultan's favorite which isn't a flex. Valide sultan is POWER title)
Türkiye i love u 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷
Bellísimas
Que hermosa y elegante era Hafsa Sultán ♥️
Todas guapas, pero sin duda la más hermosa y con una personalidad y elegancia la sultana hafsa madre de suleiman
Düzenleme: Sultan Selim tahta çıkmadan önce Hürrem Sultan öldüğü için Valide Sultan ünvanı Mihrimah Sultan'a verilmiştir
Handan sultan>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>🥺🥺🥺😭😭😭😭😭😭♥️♥️♥️♥️
The most powerful Valide-i Muazzama Turhan Sultan
I love turhan but title "muazzama" was only given to kosem.
Turhan got "valide segir" title.
However turhan is the 2nd most powerful sultana because she was a Regent for 6 years after kosem who was Regent for 3 different sultans for about 30 years
Song name
Hurrem❤❤❤
Kosem was the most powerful valida sultan
Hürrem didn't to be a Valide, she was just one of the most powerful than everyone before on the empire
She was the weakest sultana...
Title valide sultan was literally a AUTHORITY POSITION. Being valide meant being the most powerful women in the empire
Kosim sultan😘😘😘😘
You forget hurrem sultan
Turhan is gorgeous ❤️🔥
Kanuni sultan Süleyman 46 yıl tahta kaldi Hürremde o yuzden Valide olamadi valide olsaydi güzel olurdu çünki valideliyi en hak eden sultandi :(
That ring is mine. It would harm anyone but me. - Hurrem Sultan
keske hurremde oglunun tahta ciktigini gorseydi
Handan Sultan 💜
Nega hech kim Valide Haseki Hurrem sultonni yoqtirmedi.Hurram Bosh Volide Haseki Kabire ,Valide Maktula,Volide Muazzama 😢😢😢😢.Haseki Hurram Sulton 😢😢😢. 👇.
❤❤❤❤💪💪
Nurbanu sultan ❤
Handan sultan ❤
Hürrem yaşasaydı oda valide olucaktı amam maalesef ... :(
Hürrem yok ama onun yerine valide sultanlığı Mihrimah oynamıştı bence oda burda olmalıydı
Mihrimah olamaz bu rolü kismen oynasa da bu unvani almadı almaaz da padişahın annesi olup saltanatı sırasında hayatta olan kadınlar valide sultan olur Mihrimahin olması komik olur ona kalsa fatih sultan mehmedin annesi ölmüştür ama babasının eşi üvey annesi Mara hatun bu rolü oynamıştır ev destek olmuştur ama Valide Sultan denemez çünkü değildir
Valide Sultanlar bundan ibaret değildir
These are the most famous Valides of the Ottoman Empire
Nurbanu 😍💥
Si hurrem no se hubiera muerto
Hürremde Valide Olmayı Hakediyordu Ama Onun İçin Süleymanın Olmadığı Bir Dünya Dünya Değildi
Hanan sultan❤
Did Halima sultan get her son on throne so many year .but in series she only get the throne for some year and then Osman get the throne
Ella logro subir dos veces a él trono 6 años
Genç Osmanın annesi Mahfiruze Sultan nerede
Hani Hürrem nerde baş valide sultan o
O valide değil
Some people in the comments dont really know the Ottoman Empire's history
Mihrmah where Is she???
And I wish Hurrem sultan ❣️ was there
First mihirmah is a princess not valide
@@zaraazam6369 SHE WAS A VALIDE AND NO BODY CAN CHANCE THAT EVEN U
Mihrimah was never a valid sultan
@@JesusGarcia-ye5oz no she was not. You need to Google what valide sultan means lol
@@JesusGarcia-ye5oz She was only respected as Valide Sultan by her brother Selim II. She would never get a title like that. Even u can't change that. Your son must sit on the throne if you wanna be Valide Sultan. Things work like that you morron
This is divine justice. By killing Prince Mustafa, she was not able to obtain the strongest title that the Sultana could obtain, which is the title of Sultana. Poor mother, Hürrem.
Begum sultana best
Why there is no Hurrem sultan
Hürrem is not valide
the first and greatest sultan of the ottoman empire was bala sultan
🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷
hurrem was also called valide...
It's not about being called, it's a title and she didn't have it , nurbanu was the first to receive it
Ни кто из них не дожил до 70 лет
Where's HURRUM? SHE MUST BE HERE 📍💯
Hürrem is not valide
She was just a haseki (sultan's favorite) valide sultan is the mother of the sultan
🖤🖤🖤🖤
SONGS?
Ayse hafsa sultan and safiya sultan are same lmao
Hurrem and Mihrimah sultan❤
Alguien podría explicar la cronografía de esas sultanas y la diferencia con la regencia del harén y ser esposa legítima de un sultán
No hablo español, así que traduje esto usando el traductor de Google. Espero que tenga sentido en español.
Así que básicamente :
- toda mujer que dé a luz a un hijo del sultán se convierte en sultana.
- si una sultana da a luz a varios hijos del sultán, se convierte en "haseki sultan", que significa (el favorito del sultán)
- cuando un sultán fallece, su hijo se convierte en el nuevo sultán y su madre se convierte en "valide sultán", que significa (madre del sultán), sin embargo, este título fue creado por nurbanu Sultan, ella lo convirtió en una posición oficial de poder y política. título, por lo que cualquier sultán válido tenía autoridad sobre el palacio y el estado de su hijo le permitía
- si el sultán es demasiado joven para gobernar, su madre gobierna en su lugar como regente, sin embargo, esto era poco común porque el "diván" (parlamento) gobierna en los primeros días del imperio otomano, hasta el reinado de handan cuando ella se convirtió en regente pero por solo 2 años, kosem sultana es la sultana más poderosa porque fue regente durante 30 años de 2 de sus hijos y 1 de sus nietos.
Otros títulos también significan: valide muazzama que significa la madre magnífica, este era el título de kosem sultan, ella también tenía otros 14 títulos como "valide kebir" (la gran madre), valide buyuk sultan (gran madre sultana), etc. Turhan El sultán tenía el título de "valide segir" (pequeña madre sultán) porque su hijo era el sultán pero tenía 6 años, por lo que Turhan y Kosem gobernaron juntos, pero Kosem tenía un estatus y autoridad más altos.
Espero que esto haya ayudado❤
Where is mahfiruze sultan😕..She was also valide Sultan in real life
Where is hürrem
Hafsa - calm one
Nurbanu - the Smartest
Safiye-the richest
Handan -the weakest
Halime - clever one
Kosem - powerful one
Turhan- the bravest
What is the episode of handan screaming?
Valide Halime sultan’s
Daughter in law valide malhun sultan
Is missing
first two song names please?😭💕
Mahfiruze Sultan should be there. She was Valide Sultan for 2 years. Yes most people will tell you she died before Osman ascended the throne or was exile or there is not enough information about her. But it is not true. She did saw her son's reign for 2 years and died of diseases.
If you want the sources just ask me and no need to be violent and disrespectful.
Nope, Mahfiruze was never a sultan,please. According to historian Leslie P. Peirce and many others "She may have been alive when her son Osman ascended the throne but she wasn't living in the palace, nor did she act as a valide,
as privy purse registers listed no valide sultan during Osman's reign".
@@lol4lol993 Pierce made many mistakes in her book. She claimed that Mahfiruze Sultan was either sent to the old palace or died before Osman could ascend the throne which is false. Mahfiruze was Valide Sultan from 1618 to 1620 and later her sister Sahinçan Hatun looked after Osman and was respected and his Harem as his Valide Sultan.
Because I will be listing Which ambassadors and historians supports the claim (the fact) that she was not only a powerful Haseki but a Valide Sultan as well.
@@signora1102 Why don't you cite your source already? Instead of blabbering, do us a favour and provide some solid basis of your argument. I'm not insisting that what I found stands right. So, let us just see what you have to offer.
@@lol4lol993 Do not worry about me coming with my sources. To write an instructive paragraph it takes time and I don't want to mess up a country's history.
Now let's begin. It is true that the well respected historian Pierce stated that it is not very clear what truly happened to Mahfiruze Sultan. She was either sent to the old palace after a dispute with Kosem and died before her son ascended the throne. But those claims are erroneous.
Let me start with the first claim that she was sent to the old palace which is most likely false because according to the historian Dimitri Kandemir it was Ahmet fourth wife, his Haseki of Georgian origin and her name was Shahzaman and she came from the Cholokashvili Dynasty, who was sent to the old palace. That incident occurred in 1612. That Haseki was sent to the old palace with her daughter. It is true that at that moment Mahfiruze felt out of favor but she managed to stay in the palace and later on, according to the French ambassador Christofo Vallier, Mahfiruze Sultan gave birth to Prince Huseyn and this birth was much welcomed by Ahmet. He was so happy that he made her family come to the capital and celebrate (She was a Circassian princess and if you want to know the dispute that happened between her and Ahmet because of her support for Mehmet Giray around 1608 tell me.) Sehzade Huseyn birth was welcomed by great festive just like Sehzade Osman. The historian Agafangel Krimski also supports this.
The second of her claim is that she died before she son ascended the throne, is also false. According to the Venitian ambassador Giorgio Giustinian, in 1620 after the Valide Sultan's death, the Circassian princess, it was to his nanny that Osman gave such position. He continued by saying that it is not surprising at all since since the nanny, is the sister of the deceased Valide Sultan and wife of Abaza Mehmet pasha. That woman's name is Sahinçan Hatun and is the mother of Hasan Agha.
The historian Joseph Matuz also supports this, and in his report he said: "After the death of Valide Sultan, Daye Hatun became the head of the Palace and with the permission of Osman II, she was given a salary of 3000 Asper".
Furthermore, the historian Joseph Von Hammer-Purgstall supports the claim of her death in 1620 and even brought up the rumors about Kosem poisoning Mahfiruze Sultan. He further gave the reason of her death and the circumstances as well.
Other historian and ambassadors support those claims as well and most were contemporary historians and ambassadors who lived during that era.
@@lol4lol993 It is not what I have to offer. I am just a humble lover of historian who will bring what historian and ambassadors actually wrote in their reports and researchs.
hurrem valide sultan olmayi cok hakediyordu..
Esto es todo de una misma serie o de varias??
you forgot mahfiruze Sultan
Where is hurrem🙄🙄🙄🙄
Valide sultan means the mother of the sultan. The title was created during the reign of selim for nurbanu. Hurrem passed away before her son was on the throne
Name film please ❤️
Vivía muy poquito esa plebe
Falta Emetullah Rabia sultan, madre de Ahmed III y Mustafa II
Handan 1576-1605 only 29 years. At what age she gave birth to Ahmad?
I guess 15 or 16,even her son ahmed 1st ascended the throne at a young age
But where is hurrem sultan..she was the best among all
@@taniyanaskar7131 sadly, she was not a valide (mother of sultan). Died before Selim ascend the throne.
Menos a Kosem....las demas las ameeee....xq amaban el poder pero tbn a sus hijos, no asi en el caso de Kosem!
Valide que es son las madres Sultana o es otra cosa
Mahpeyker Kösem olacak
Yes, she acted as Valide Sultan to her son for 8 years.
Handan sultan 29 years live??😂
И ведь обязательно найдётся недоумок, который спросит где Хюррем и Михримах🤦♀️
Were is hurrem😮