hi ... can you flash the red dragon vega 56 to 64 and make a video about it ?? i cannot seem to see anyone better than you to do that as you have 12 of them ... tell us what bios you used exactly and if all display ports and HDMI are working , temps , overclocking improvements undervolting ... etc
It will be a bit lower than an vega 64 because it has fewer compute units than an real vega 64. But it won't be noticeable increase of an vega 56 or a decrease in vega 64 power Consumption
What size power supply are you using here? I have a 700 watt and it’s working fine with my stock Vega at max power limit. I would hate to flash it to a 64 bios only to start having issues. Also, what were your temps like after this if I may ask.
I'm 95% sure I was using a Corsair CX 750w Bronze in that setup. Temps weren't too much higher, but I was using a pretty aggressive fan curve rather than a static RPM.
@@3DPCSo I have a strix vega 56 OC with a 750W gold evga. My last 600w smart Burned when I tried over clocking and put the power limit to 100%. Could that have been the problem or overclocking it in general?
Pick up a Kill-a-Watt power meter to see how much system power you're drawing from the wall. Generally, you don't want to go over 80% of your Power supply's rated limit (use 800 watts or less with a 1000 watt power supply). 80% of a 600w PSU is 480w. In a Hardwareluxx article, they showed ~400w total system power with a stock v56 and ~460w with a Vega 64. Theoretically a flashed Vega 56 will draw less than a true Vega 64 as there are 8 fewer compute units, but with stock voltages, you'll likely still draw power up to the power limit on the V64 bios. Gamers Nexus Hybrid modded V56 had system power consumption around 450-475w depending on the game. Some Vega 64 cards are VERY power hungry, such as this Sapphire card which lists power consumption as "under 375w". www.sapphiretech.com/en/consumer/nitro-rx-vega64-8g-hbm2#Specification Depending on what all you have in your system (CPU overclocking too) you can very easily overwhelm a 600w power supply with a Vega 64 (or flashed V56, same bios=same power limit). Anandtech's Intel 9th gen review shows a 9900k alone pulling over 160w under full load. Motherboards, RGB, fans, SSDs etc all draw power too.
No, I applied the BIOS from a Vega 64 card onto a Vega 56 card. This allows the card to run at frequencies it normally would crash at. If you set a Vega 56's HBM to 1100MHz, it will crash. If you set a Vega 64 to that speed, it works. If you take a Vega 56, flash the 64's BIOS onto it, not it will run at 1100MHz. It also raises the power limit of the card in addition to boosting core and memory clocks.
If you save a copy of the original BIOS before flashing, you can always flash it back before returning the card for a warranty claim. All the Vega cards I've used have 2 BIOS you can switch between as a failsafe too.
Great video! Amazing results with 64 bios, I will have to do that! Note: missing link to last video about flashing to 64 bios in this video at 37 secs - Need links to ATI flash software in description please
The things that typically kill GPUs are heat cycling (changing from hot to cold repeatedly) and high temperatures (in the power delivery). As for heat cycling, flashing the BIOS doesn't change how many times you'll start / stop gaming. As for prolonged VRM heat, fan speed fixes that. You're increasing the default power limit of the card to be the Vega 64's power limit, which is higher than the V56, so adjust fan speed or power limit accordingly if you think a Vega 64 would live less than a Vega 56.
+Marcos What ACTUALLY kills your GPU and this you can look up as well by just Googling it is when the GPU core and VRM are run under intense heat for long periods of time, everything has a rated limit to when it starts degrading, for the Vega its 125 degrees on the VRM which sounds stupid high but this is the limit however above 90 degrees the VRM degrades, as for the chip it starts degrading after 90 degrees usually the chip itself is much sturdier than VRM in terms of degradation. Going hot and cold does shit to the life span of it, they are designed to do this.
i flashed my vega 56 to 64 bios and noticed not much performance gain. its not worth it imo, you are better off overclocking/undervolting the original 56 bios
You doing it wrong. Raise the power limit to max and then increase both HBM2 and core voltage when you increase your clock speeds. Also do not have the same speed on your last two p-states or it will bug out because AMD drivers suck. Edit: if you can't control your vrm, hbm, GPU+gpu-hotspot temp's it will automatically underclock and decrease speeds by itself when you hit 80c or more.
@@TheVirusGuy All Vega 64 come with samsung HBM2. Not all Vega 56 have samsung HBM2. In other words , a samsung memory can reach the potential of a Vega 64 when flashed but a Vega 56 with Hynix memory won't be able to handle it. the limit of a Vega 56 is around 950 Mhz while the Vega 64 can reach 1100Mhz memory clock easily. So in order to reach 1100 Mhz in a Vega 56 you need the samsung memory.
@@julatzschmulatz9607 from what I've read in the forums the first reference models came with samsung mem. But this is more of a lottery since I bought an MSI blower vega 56 2 months ago and it came with samsung memory. My guess is that it will be the same with the ASUS one .Its about luck I would say .
@@TheVirusGuy If you try to flash a 64 bios onto a hynix 56, Im pretty sure it will just brick the card, as hynix memory isn't on the supported list of memory chips in the bios ROM itself.
I got a Vega 56 and did the power table edit and I'm getting 1610mhz core, 1020mhz hmb2 memory, p7 1050mv underclock. It's benchmarking very close to a flashed card but 1100mhz is very tempting. It's consuming 35 more watts so the power table edit was needed. My hotspot is hitting about 84c max.
NIce set of benchmarks. Worth a flash.
I am impressed considering how simple this will be. Thank you.
you have a new subscriber buddy! keep it up!
You're awesome. Thank you for the benchmarks :D
hi ... can you flash the red dragon vega 56 to 64 and make a video about it ?? i cannot seem to see anyone better than you to do that as you have 12 of them ... tell us what bios you used exactly and if all display ports and HDMI are working , temps , overclocking improvements undervolting ... etc
There would be a fps boost if we undervolt A vega 64's bios flashed UNDERVOLTED vega 56?
what about power usage though?
It will be a bit lower than an vega 64 because it has fewer compute units than an real vega 64. But it won't be noticeable increase of an vega 56 or a decrease in vega 64 power Consumption
WHO CARES BIG POWER BIG VEGA WOOOOOOOO
Just work on your tables and all will be good :P
Could I flash a Vega 56 and run it in CF with my stock Vega 64? Or would I need to match the clocks/ memory speeds?
It doesnt work like that.
That's crazy, yesterday I played distance for the first time and now I'm seeing it in this specific video I looked up 😂
Question : was your card with samsung memory or hynix memory ?
dude can you put an outline on the graphs, it's really hard to see
you colorblind or sum?
@@HotLaxLP nah he's not wrong, at some part of the video, the numbers are unreadable
What size power supply are you using here? I have a 700 watt and it’s working fine with my stock Vega at max power limit. I would hate to flash it to a 64 bios only to start having issues. Also, what were your temps like after this if I may ask.
I'm 95% sure I was using a Corsair CX 750w Bronze in that setup. Temps weren't too much higher, but I was using a pretty aggressive fan curve rather than a static RPM.
@@3DPCSo I have a strix vega 56 OC with a 750W gold evga. My last 600w smart Burned when I tried over clocking and put the power limit to 100%. Could that have been the problem or overclocking it in general?
Pick up a Kill-a-Watt power meter to see how much system power you're drawing from the wall. Generally, you don't want to go over 80% of your Power supply's rated limit (use 800 watts or less with a 1000 watt power supply). 80% of a 600w PSU is 480w.
In a Hardwareluxx article, they showed ~400w total system power with a stock v56 and ~460w with a Vega 64. Theoretically a flashed Vega 56 will draw less than a true Vega 64 as there are 8 fewer compute units, but with stock voltages, you'll likely still draw power up to the power limit on the V64 bios.
Gamers Nexus Hybrid modded V56 had system power consumption around 450-475w depending on the game.
Some Vega 64 cards are VERY power hungry, such as this Sapphire card which lists power consumption as "under 375w".
www.sapphiretech.com/en/consumer/nitro-rx-vega64-8g-hbm2#Specification
Depending on what all you have in your system (CPU overclocking too) you can very easily overwhelm a 600w power supply with a Vega 64 (or flashed V56, same bios=same power limit). Anandtech's Intel 9th gen review shows a 9900k alone pulling over 160w under full load. Motherboards, RGB, fans, SSDs etc all draw power too.
song pleeaase
Do you still having the modified vega 56 now? Does it still work?
yea there's literally no risk to doing this unless you fuck up the flash
@@m.streicher8286 even if you fuck up the flash most (all?) 56s are dual bios
But all that noise though. I like quiet, 4krpms fan speed is loud
So the is just from an hbm overclock?
No, I applied the BIOS from a Vega 64 card onto a Vega 56 card. This allows the card to run at frequencies it normally would crash at. If you set a Vega 56's HBM to 1100MHz, it will crash. If you set a Vega 64 to that speed, it works. If you take a Vega 56, flash the 64's BIOS onto it, not it will run at 1100MHz. It also raises the power limit of the card in addition to boosting core and memory clocks.
what processor are you using?
In that computer, it would be a 1800x running at 3.9GHz.
warranty gets void by flashing the vega 56 card?
If you save a copy of the original BIOS before flashing, you can always flash it back before returning the card for a warranty claim. All the Vega cards I've used have 2 BIOS you can switch between as a failsafe too.
Great video! Amazing results with 64 bios, I will have to do that!
Note: missing link to last video about flashing to 64 bios in this video at 37 secs
- Need links to ATI flash software in description please
Would be better to use white for the numbers in the graph
Suggest me some ways to increase the life of a graphics card and processor please
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Undervolting
@@Raja-ev1ly ok can you tell me how by decreasing voltage we can get higher fps?
@@anishabisht4213 where did i say it increases fps?
@@Raja-ev1ly there are many vid and sources claiming that
Why don't you disable windows updates when you do this.
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An this reduces the life of the card?
The things that typically kill GPUs are heat cycling (changing from hot to cold repeatedly) and high temperatures (in the power delivery). As for heat cycling, flashing the BIOS doesn't change how many times you'll start / stop gaming. As for prolonged VRM heat, fan speed fixes that. You're increasing the default power limit of the card to be the Vega 64's power limit, which is higher than the V56, so adjust fan speed or power limit accordingly if you think a Vega 64 would live less than a Vega 56.
@@3DPC ok, thanks.
+Marcos
What ACTUALLY kills your GPU and this you can look up as well by just Googling it is when the GPU core and VRM are run under intense heat for long periods of time, everything has a rated limit to when it starts degrading, for the Vega its 125 degrees on the VRM which sounds stupid high but this is the limit however above 90 degrees the VRM degrades, as for the chip it starts degrading after 90 degrees usually the chip itself is much sturdier than VRM in terms of degradation.
Going hot and cold does shit to the life span of it, they are designed to do this.
i flashed my vega 56 to 64 bios and noticed not much performance gain. its not worth it imo, you are better off overclocking/undervolting the original 56 bios
I want the Fucking temperatures
Good jerb
You doing it wrong. Raise the power limit to max and then increase both HBM2 and core voltage when you increase your clock speeds. Also do not have the same speed on your last two p-states or it will bug out because AMD drivers suck.
Edit: if you can't control your vrm, hbm, GPU+gpu-hotspot temp's it will automatically underclock and decrease speeds by itself when you hit 80c or more.
you should tell that it wont work if your vega 56 has hynix memory
What will happen
@@TheVirusGuy All Vega 64 come with samsung HBM2. Not all Vega 56 have samsung HBM2. In other words , a samsung memory can reach the potential of a Vega 64 when flashed but a Vega 56 with Hynix memory won't be able to handle it. the limit of a Vega 56 is around 950 Mhz while the Vega 64 can reach 1100Mhz memory clock easily. So in order to reach 1100 Mhz in a Vega 56 you need the samsung memory.
@@julatzschmulatz9607 from what I've read in the forums the first reference models came with samsung mem. But this is more of a lottery since I bought an MSI blower vega 56 2 months ago and it came with samsung memory. My guess is that it will be the same with the ASUS one .Its about luck I would say .
@@TheVirusGuy If you try to flash a 64 bios onto a hynix 56, Im pretty sure it will just brick the card, as hynix memory isn't on the supported list of memory chips in the bios ROM itself.
@@jaga191296 how would you know if it has Samsung hbm2 memory. I just purchased a msi rx vega 56 oc airboost card it should be here tomarow.
I got a Vega 56 and did the power table edit and I'm getting 1610mhz core, 1020mhz hmb2 memory, p7 1050mv underclock. It's benchmarking very close to a flashed card but 1100mhz is very tempting. It's consuming 35 more watts so the power table edit was needed. My hotspot is hitting about 84c max.
?? I have an MSI air boost card(64 flash, blower card) running at 1682 (1150 mw) and 1100 mem and only get 77°c hotspot avg, 80 max
Most amazing wall you have in yer' room sir. Is that an ATi Radeon 2600 XT I see?
It will get hotter
The background music is kinda annoying
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i went from your channel to clicking on this video and now im sad.