Brutally Honest Kpop Opinions That Netizens Are Too Scared To Say
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Idle's music is not for everyone, and that's okay. Their music is not cringe, imo. Their last album is full of very nice songs, plus Tomboy and Nude are true bops. I will defend those songs forever.
I agree that Soojin is dearly missed and she should have stayed, but you make it sounds like it's the other girls' fault that she left, or that she was the one that was in charge of the creative direction of the group, when both of this things are not it.. Soyeon is putting her everything in her work, also working together in tandem with all the other girls to produce their music. But everything that she does goes unfortunately through the lenses of the company that manages them. So the company might prefer songs that you find "cringe" (and as you said, your opinion, which I dont' agree with). It is well known that Idle is not happy of their management, most of all since the company kicked out Soojin. I think they are just waiting for their chance, while making an even bigger name to themselves, until they are free from their conctracts and then they can finally leave their company for good. And maybe, who knows, Soojin might even go back and be part of Idle (my wishful thinking, I know).
their trash album sold close 2m cause yuqi's power
@@eterniaaabadi1823Lmao you wish. They all made the album great. And the album is not trash just because you didnt like it 🤷🏻♀️.
i totally agree with your opinion on wonyoungism, liking and defending wonyoung is fine but going as far as creating a whole cult around her is freaky. what's even worse is that cult is devided and that now you have fans who simply see her as a role model and fans who go as far as starving themselves and having a lifestyle that don't fit them to be just like wonyoung
i also agree with what you said about gidle, i absolutely love their songs hwaa and uh oh, but queencard and super lady have been lowkey dissapointing me despite the great message
and finally someone who said something about kpop not being original, kpop fans (especially the older ones like 2nd gen fans) are extremely delusional and believe that kpop is 100% original and if anyone tries to say something about it, they get attacked
That's why I only stan Red Velvet and Dreamcatcher. While I like Twice, I'm not the biggest fan of their style of music. If anything, I'd say out of all 4th gen girl groups, it is not Itzy that is the best, but actually Aespa and Le Sserafim are, for me, the best 4th gen groups right now. Add to that, Itzy has only had the other 4 and no Lia since 2023 in October when she decided she needed time off. That's what the industry can do to these girls if they're not prepared.
Even Eunchae from LS, who us fans of theirs calls Manchae, took all of January off to rest because she was feeling so drained and overwhelmed. She's only 20 years old and had people leaving her death threats because she flubbed some lines. That's how insane some of these idiotic fans are.
Not all 2nd gen fans think alike, but maybe it's because we stan groups that were around when kpop became a thing. Notably Lee Soo-man(SM Entertainment) brought his inspiration from MJ and the west to create the machine kpop is today. But like anything else, things change and grow.
Bashing second gen the new bandwagon. I do agree it's definitely not original though.
@@AA-ed6ek i'm not bashing 2nd gen fans, usually, they're the ones gushing about how k-pop "wasn't westernized" and i just can't stand it
@@a_normal_stay22 What's wrong with that take? I'd have to agree. Some people genuinely liked actual kpop. We can agree to disagree but I personally preferred when it wasn't Westernized as well. That's what interested me to begin with. Now it's Western music that's sung in Korean. I got into kpop initially because Hollywood music wasn't interesting me anymore.
It's fine to like kpop as it is now though. Different people have different taste and that's fine.
wait...your ALANARY SECTION OMG I'm so glad your back!!❤❤❤ I’m rooting for you!! ♡︎♡︎♡︎
My old channel was ruined thanks to CZcams and I needed to clear my head before making a comeback. This year was nothing but stressful however, I'm glad you notice me.
@@Rosiary What happened? If we can ask
Almost all of my content got copyrighted out of nowhere and they didn't even made sense. Not only that but my content was falsely accused of reused content and my content got demonetized. No matter how many times I reached out for the issue to get fixed CZcams did nothing. After multiple attempts they decided to look at my content and they will decide if they should stay up or not. I got frustrated and deleted the channel because I already knew how it was going to end. I just wanted to get rid of it and take a break from CZcams because I couldn't deal with the stress. The worst part was I made the most money in December which would've helped me with other finances greatly and that's where YT decided to demonetize my content and refund the advertisers so they wouldn't pay me. So when I deleted my content I thought I was done for good. But a part of me missed making content. It didn't feel right that I was no longer a content creator and when I saw ktubers uploading content I felt left out. I missed interacting with my subscribers and reading comments as well as editing videos. So that'a when I decided to start again.
@@Rosiary Oh! I am sorry. This seems like a contradictory topic.
People get offended to easy, nothing here is really a hate comment over no one, only a lot on hard but honest reflections made by someone and many take them to hearth and as hate because you dissagree with the mass media message.
Another thing I do not like but understand is that is easy to let go and be more hard or even go over the line between respectfull and malicious comments in this kind of topics.
But I think we, as society need this real conversations in order to grow up, thank you to this kind of reflections I noticed my own toxic behaivour against some entretainment figures.
I hope you can keep doing videos and forcing people to think and judge by themselves in a respectful and critical mindset. We, as society, need it and as fans even more. Thank you for your hard work, even if I do not always think the same.
Aren’t you that girl whose channel got taken down ( or something like that ) by youtube? The editing looks the same and first clue was a rosé profile. Glad ur back tho
Yes it's me. My apologies, my old channel was doomed.
I was wondering the Same because the Thumbnails Look the Same 😅
@@Rosiary What happened, if I might ask? I am launching a new Ktube channel this Friday and want to do what I can to avoid getting it nuked.
First my channel got alot of copyright claims from SBS out of nowehere and they were just extremely small clips and from stage mixes then it demonetized for reused content. Reached out to CZcams support many times to get it back to remonetization they didn't want to anything. So I got fustrated and deleted the entire thing. It also irks me when I earned a lot more than I normally would for CZcams to demonetize my channel so they wouldn't have to pay me. All I can say is that no CZcamsr is safe unless you are Yts favorite. If you wish to start a CZcams channel then go ahead. Don't use stage mixes and SBS fancams. Also add your own twist to it like a border or effects to make your editing unique to save you from future scrutiny.
@@Rosiary Thankfully @choujimi warned me about being careful with using footage from stage shows, so I've gone out of my way to stylize and blur out portions of those shots - particularly those including show or network names - in hopes of avoiding any issues.
Super sorry you're having to contend with this. Wishing you the best of luck in rebuilding your following.
dash by NMIXX was good. Not the most iconic song but it will age nicely
omg you are alanary section and you are back. i was missing you as only have the clarity of mind and thought which is very rare these days. i wish producers would actually make real music like back in the day and we would stop praising mediocrity.
I always laugh at kpop fans either slander the wests music or call plagiarism, its also ironic have you noticed copying any western song is called inspiration while copying kpop is called plagiarism, hilarious irony, hating popular things makes alot of socially awkward kpop fans think theyre unique
Also, the way kpop fans cry when idols are asked what their fav song is and they all name foreign singers and no kpop songs always kills me when theyre hit with reality, for example no one gives a shit about Le sserafim Smart, while everyone respects and loves Tyla Water so many idols have mentioned her song as their fav
This was a fantastic video. I appreciate the effort and the way you presented your arguments.
Wonyoungism is so weird. She probably doesn’t even do all of that in real life as excessively as some people do, it’s unrealistic imo
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I actually will push back on the idea that idols shouldn't be seen as role models/ have to act like role models. they're called idols for a reason, you're *supposed* to be aable to look up to them. Now having to be good at singing, dancing, have good visuals is a BIG ask, but being an idol isn't easy. Now in my opinion, we need to be more understanding of idols and give them more grace; being a role model does not mean you should not be allowed mistakes. nobody is perfect, not even widely adored historical figures people look up to. We are WAY too quick to persecute idols for common mistakes that any given human would make. But to be afforded an international platform is not a right, it is a privilege that comes with responsibilities. Idols attend things like variety shows because in the kpop industry, an idol's personality is seen as important. Due to this, it's a given that this is a double edged knife that will result in backlash if an idol is seen to be doing something unsavory. Idols have A LOT of influence because it's their job (or the industry forces them to) embody what is aspirational in society. They are slim, beautiful, and skilled at what they do- which also means children are likely to look up to them and this isn't an accident. So for example, when an idol is caught on camera smoking, that unfortunately will signal to the children who look up to them that smoking is okay, or they should try it regardless of whether that is the idol's intent. I say: idols should be allowed to smoke, but be smart and try not to get caught. Sure that means idols are not afforded the same freedoms as normal people, but they also have 1000x more influence than normal people, 1000x the fans (and 1000x the money in their pocket, often) which comes with more responsibility. tl;dr We need to be easier on idols, THEY ARE HUMAN but the idea that they shouldn't have to be role models makes no sense given the fact that they embody aspirational figures and are literally called, idols for a reason. No one is owed the fame of being an idol and if they don't want that responsibility, they can be background dancers.
@sasukeissocoollike Nah they shouldn't be looked up to as role models unless they're interacting with young girls who want to be like that girl. It's true that we wouldn't have the 4th gen girl groups if it weren't for the girls that came before them and their generation to inspire them, but this girl is not wrong. I've been saying that I will NOT be ever calling them "idols" and they should never be called "idols" if they are under 20. That's what the rule should be. They should change it so that they are called "talents" instead of "idols". In this day and age, you HAVE to work really hard if you are a foreigner AND want to be taken seriously in the K-pop world. In this current gen, you have to be all-arounder or you'll be ridiculed.
I'll just stick with being a fan of Red Velvet and Dreamcatcher. Two of the realest groups out there who don't give a crud what people think.
@@zaynes5094 I’m gonna be real I wasn’t even considering my pov re: idols under the age of twenty but if I’m honest if you’re too young to be a role model (ie under 20 or so) you’re too young to be an idol in the first place in my book.
And I think the whole “interaction” thing doesn’t make much sense, these young people can see idols’ actions on tv on their phones and in the news and young people often emulate what they see in media, especially when the people doing it are supposed to come off as “perfect” (thin, pretty, talented)
spitting fact, theyre called idols not musicians or singers, idols in korea are plastered all over innocent things because they copied Jpop (and Jpop coped motown) and idols in Japan are supposed to be role models who are good influence
OMG THE FIRST ONE IS SO TRUE IT'S CAUSING WARS
AI voices are too monotone and painful to my ears.
I HEAVILY agree with the Western collab opinion. I'm from the west (UK) and I just think some are good. Such as BLACKPINK and Dua Lipa because she is very well known, both domestically and globally and BP are very famous, again; both domestically and globally. But some don't make any damn sense such as when Jungkook had a rapper called Latto. (Which almost everyone didn't know until it's release) and she is a D tier western celeb.
Babe, I agree with everything but NMIXX ate this era. That album was 💃🏻👨🍳👌✨✨✨🧨
I actually liked Idle's music this time. Its not everyones cup of tea but I dont feel this album had a single bad song. Doll, Fate, Vision,Rollie and Super Lady are so different and unique. Sure at first listen it becomes hard to percieve the music but later it becomes your daily anthem
Fr, Not a single Idle songs have been a miss for me, even their ballads are top
It’s hilarious how a lot of ktubers like you think they’re coming up with relevant, revealing and new takes when all you’ve said have been repeated to exhaustion by a lot of kpop fans. It seems like you just copy what they said and put it in your video. I agree with some of this takes. But I disagree with NMIXX and Gidle.
Nmixx new comeback has been amazing, so just because you don’t like it it doesn’t mean it’s bad. They have won a lot of fans with their recent cb and her music has only improved. It’s catchy and different. Also regarding Gidle, it seems like it has become trendy to criticize their music just for the sake of it because you’re guaranteed to get views. People who criticize their music and say their music quality has downgraded bla bla make it so clear that they only have listened to their title tracks. This includes you, you complain about ktubers spreading misinformation for clout and here you are doing the same thing. You clearly have only listened to Gidle title tracks and not a single one of their b sides.
Because the quality of their b sides has only improved since soojin left. Also just because you dont like the new direction Gidle is taking, it doesn’t mean that they’re scrambling to find footing in the industry 😂, they’re disorganized or are lost. What a pathetic take. They’re just trying new concepts. Since when are idols not allow to experiment with concepts?
Gidle music isn’t terrible now, you just listen to their 4 new title tracks and think their music has downgraded. Their music is still infectious and catchy and above all is fun. Their title tracks since soojin left have been iconic and it’s only a few lines that are a bit cringy. Their music is still good you just haven’t checked it and like to whine about the good old days 🥱🥱. Gidle only became this popular because they changed their music direction. If they hadnt done that and remain with their old music direction, then, in that case, it would’ve been harder for them to rise in the competitive sea of newer gg of 4 gen.
1) In such a big community of kpop fans, a bunch of kpop fans have voiced the same opinion but she's just sharing what she thinks is the truth and would probably make some people angry so this isn't even relevant to the conversation.
2) When you're talking about music as a casual fan, I don't think we need to consider the b-sides since the title track is the face of the new album and it makes no sense for it to be the bad one. If you want to consider b-sides and use them to say whether the music is good or not is wise but if you only judge by the title track, it's completely fine as well. Title tracks should be enough to decide whether a group's music is going down or not since again, they are the face of the album and if the title track is not good, then why would people want to listen to the b-sides. They are in a way losing their footing since most casual fans who liked their old music would be leaving. When changing concepts, they should know how to keep the old fans and attract more fans. (G)-IDLE has gotten a lot more popular with their new direction but I would be lying if I said that a lot of people including the fans who were fond of their old music weren't leaving the group. If you like their direction, that's fine but that doesn't mean that you should attack people or call their opinion pathetic because of that.
@@nabyabarman8374 1. To me is relevant that’s why I said it.
2. If you know nearly nothing about a groups music you don’t get to whine about it and say how terrible, bad, disorganized and downgraded their music is 🙄. People like her and you only want to criticize them for the sake of it. That’s pathetic. You can say their title tracks aren’t great and you didn’t like it. But complaining that gidle don’t know what their doing, are scrambling to find their footing and their music is terrible is pathetic because their title tracks make a very small portion of their overall music.
@@nabyabarman8374 And no title tracks aren’t enough to define whether a groups music is going down or not. Because in many cases the b sides surpassed the title tracks. This is exactly what happened with gidle’s fate and super lady 😂. Fate became even more successful and got a lot of paks. And no Gidle’s music isn’t going down just because a bunch of people didn’t like it 🤡. And what if they lost fans? That happens to a lot of groups and they’re still fine. Gidle doesn’t need them anyway. People who say they’re losing their footing have no idea about how popular they are among Koreans. That’s why they’re leading the charts.
3. I call the opinion of this youtuber pathetic because it is. Nmixx new comeback isn’t bad just because she didn’t like it, Gidle music isn’t bad nor are they lost, just because she didn’t like their new music or concepts. When people learnt to criticize the songs they don’t like objectively instead of simply just saying they’re bad I will respect their opinion, but until then I will keep calling them pathetic.
@pml4443 It's so simple, read the title. Did it say 'unpopular kpop opinions' or 'kpop opinions.'
@@pml4443 1) Doesn't make sense why but okay
2) Again as I said, for casual fans, if they don't like the title track they won't listen to the b-sides. So, if the title track is bad, people are not going to listen to the b-sides. Even if the title tracks only account for a very small percentage of the groups's music, it doesn't matter if the b-sides are good and the title tracks aren't, listeners would still not like it. I personally like their b-sides and I don't really care about their title tracks. (G)-IDLE does know what they are doing but they aren't executing it well, at least in the case of their title tracks. I already explained the losing their footing part before so I am not going to say it again. Why do people think criticism is a bad thing? Criticism is always meant for improvement. Their are different kinds of criticism and she just used negative criticism which pisses y'all but is also meant for improvement. So, calling me or her pathetic for criticising (G)-IDLE isn't justified. The take still can't be called pathetic since the title tracks are what make people listen to b-sides and if that's bad, no body is going to care for the b-sides. The title tracks might make a small part of the groups music but no body would care about the b-sides without the title tracks being good. At this point, I feel like I sound like a broken record saying this again and again.
Agree about the collaborations, you have already groups with members only gettings seconds in each song to add more people.
Really few groups makes collabs with unknown names that really makes nothing to the song or the MV or even to the popularity of the group.
That comes with their image, as you said they have a perfect carved image that clash with the one they are collaborating.
Agree too about the trendsetters. I laugh about this new batch of "fashionistas" that until they were given a brand deal dressed as the people next to you with nothing to show except a good figure. Even with fashion stilyst they manage to look uncordinated, to old or just a mess... Few idols I would call fashion icons like GDragon, J-Hope or even the Jung sisters (that I would consider them that because even if their clothes seems to be in the minimalistic approach it is clearly their style and one that suit them).
Why come to Kpop for good music? like this genre isnt about music, its the fast fashion of the music genre copies every other genre in the world which is popular and always has been, no one looks to Korea for genuine musical inspiration, literally no one, nothing wrong with that, if that butters peoples bread what kpop offers, I guess
go to western or african or middle eastern music if youre looking for genuine good authentic music
Stans in Kpop will eat up every piece of shit song and album produced, neither do kpop groups have any involvement in the music, whereas even big names in the west like Ariana or Jack Harlow will get alot of criticism for any subpar work and told to go back to the studio, so we cant even expect better music
No one looks to Korea for genuine musical inspiration? Lmaooo. Just say you hate kpop and go 😂😂. You clearly don’t know nothing about Kpop and you’re just pulling things out of your ass. Kpop has inspire many other groups in Japan, China and even some parts of SEA. So why don’t you do your research first before talking about things you don’t know? Youre only embarrassing yourself. Just because you know nothing about the reach and impact of KPop, it doesn’t mean that their influence doesn’t exist. You clearly think way to highly of your opinion 😆😆.
I agree that kpop fans will eat everything their favorite groups release, but you’re wrong about everything else. There are many kpop groups who are involved in their music You just don’t bother to look them up or you only know 5-6 popular groups. So of course you would think nobody participates in their music 🙄🥱. When there are many groups who put out great music but they aren’t as mainstream as other kpop groups.
I don’t like the new direction a lot of kpop groups are taking either, but you shouldn’t discredit all kpop music just because you don’t like the most famous groups. If you hate kpop so much why are you even here? This video clearly isn’t for you. But I can see how this video may invite many haters to comment their idiotic opinions thinking they’re coming with brilliant and new takes. Pathetic 🥱.
Are you former Alanary Section????? Want u to now that I really loved ur videos!! Gotta keep up w this channel
Yes I am
Gidles music seems the plateau in the same way mommamo did
Sorry but the beginning of the video sounds like a rant on how you don't get as much attention as you believe you should be getting lol
Exactly 😂. Couldn’t take her seriously after that. Idk why she thinks her channel is special or that different from others. Most of her opinions have been repeated to exhaustion by kpop fans. And she’s also spreading misinformation like the channels she complains about.
WAIT ARE YOU ALANRY SECTION?? I MISSED YOU SO MUCH
Yes I am.
Girl the way u speak is so pretty
Like i would never thought someone posting a kpop opinion would use this type of words
i think its text to speech
who's the group in 1:26
StayC
Wait are you alanary section? omg I have literally smokey all your videos atp. Glad you're here what happened though?
Yeah I am. Most of my videos got cooyrighted by SBS out of nowhere for stage mixes and small clips and CZcams demonetized my entire channel for reused content. And this wa right after a made a lot more money than I normally do. After reaching out multiple times and nothing got resolved I was under stress and deleted the entire channel. I thought I was done with Ktube and just focus on school but I ended up missing it so I came back. I'm glad that you recognized me though. My old channel got scrutinized very badly.
@@Rosiary you should write somewhere or atleast should have made a community post that this is your new channel before deleting the previous one. I know you want to have a fresh start but still I would suggest that you keep your channel name Or profile the same after some time I am sure your previous audience will return. And then you can name your channel anything else or just like change whatever you want. It's still you're decision tho
I don't have a community tab as yet.
@@Rosiary that's bad. I feel bad for you but I am sure you will surely gain that audience back. And I still suggest you change your name to the previous one and pfp too. Also what about you fcking snowflakes intro? Bring it back 😔
This lack passion it my opinion
Lol. But you are using videos from popular groups.
so??
You sound like a kpop hater
Please learn to separate emotions from subjective opinions or facts. This will help you in the long run.
Why a hater? Bc you disagree with her opinions? Or just cuz she's brutally honest and sometimes speaks the truth some people don't wanna hear?
Just say you don't agree with her lmao