How to remove a run with putty
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The beauty of this system Gabe is twofold. The putty provides you with a built in guidecoat. As long as there still is putty you just keep sanding. Secondly the ramps the putty puts on both sides of the run prevent you from undercutting the sag. Remember the clear that formed the run came from somewhere. That somewhere is right above the run where the clear is actually thinner than it should be. I've used this system for years and it works better than any other method that I know of.
So awesome!!😍
I don't know the Gunman but I have offered suggestions to him from time to time. I like him as a craftsman and as a man.
SATAMAN Schmidt Wow I am going to try this next time I screw up. It's too easy to burn through the clear trying to fix a run.
I’ve found that using kombi putty works better than metal glaze. It doesn’t heat up as it dries which tends to etch fresh clear. Also it wet sands easier.
I learned this from the gunman as well ...actually was his first video I watched ....still use this method
Now this is what you call a video step-by-step showed how to do what you need to get rid of runs You explain on how long to let the car sit before you even attempt to remove them awesome video really needed to see this.....good work
I'm just a hobbyist and only done a half dozen cars. I've used this method but saw a guy use a sharpie (on lighter colors). It's like a guide coat from the start & I found it much easier to control how much of the surrounding area gets sanded. Since I only worked on my own cars (so kept them for several years) I found that the life of the clear was sometimes shortened because it was thinner than the suggested build after fixing some of the runs. Yours sure did come out nice! Thanks for sharing the tip!
I like that method I learned it originally on the Sherwin Williams channel. It's a smart way to sand down a high run without sanding through the thinner parts of the coats. Also I dont remember you saying that you used a spot puddy in order to sand that out. It doesn't work as well with regular bondo. If you need the proper instructions look up Shewin Williams clear coat run removal. Good job guys you just proved you dont always have to reshoot a part because of a huge run...
This process works for sure. One issue is that if you follow this process you will have a serious flat section after its polished, You would use the same method if you planed to sand the entire fender down to re-clear. in most cases its difficult to block out a run perfectly, this is the best method if your only polishing or re-clearing.
This is the method i use most! Always works like a charm, by not letting you dig into the area surrounding the run. Never had it fail me yet!
Also
To save some time, instead of waiting a few days to sand the run, open the top of the run up the first day. Dont go crazy on it, just cut into the top of the run and it will help allow the solvents out a bit quicker...Then you can attack it the next day without fear of it rolling on you! Try it next time, and let me know if it saves you some time.
Cheers
Hi, do you add hardener to the fine filler, or without?
I tried this and it worked...sure I had a tired arm, but I learned that I rather have small "acute" runs" than resanding a whole panel :P
Loved this video! Thanks Gabe!
Your welcome !
That’s a good run!! I like it👍
🤙🏾nice!time you have your own shop!!!
I like using guide coat when removing runs especially on certain colors it’s so hard to tell if it’s blocking out
I’ve always wanted to try this method but always have been too afraid! Awesome video
Hope it helps ! Haha
Nice work. It's such a relief when you don't have to 'repaint and you take something that looks like a complete disaster and turn it into something positive. Awesome.
It was definitely a relieve !!!! 😍😍😍
Hey Gabe glad to see your not just showing all the jobs that come out good and actually showing jobs that get the best of us at times, Its always the ones that we think will be easy that bite us!!
Always brother !!
Nicely done gentleman 👍
I hope I never need this trick, but I'm happy to know it's an option! 👍 Keep it up man!
Hahaha your welcome!!🔥
Buena idea! La pondré en practica! Gracias!
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Anyone knows why when I buff a black car I’m getting swirl marks? And not sanding swirl marks from the DA or sand paper but from the foam pad like if you can tell it was buffed? I’m only using 1200 and 2000 could that be why?
what kind of putty did you use? I am surprised you guys do so much sanding without the worry of burning through clear coat or am I missing something? I need to fix runs on my car. I bought my car with a few really bad runs of clearcoat. I am scared to sand that much. Let me know, please.
Nice tric gabe 😉 and verry good work !
If you use the mirka sharkblade you arr muche faster ...
But everithing will be tested 😁
Thank you great video!!! I’m new at using PPG paint watching your videos are awesome thank you so much for taking the time to explain all your work ! God bless
That's awesome glad I can help!!!!
Yo también tenía miedo usar este tipo de procedimiento pero gracias ati y tu detallado mensaje lo intentare ! Gracias ! Saludos De aquí de Pennsylvania !
Gracias!!!!!
I thought he was gunna do it I thought he was gunna do it lol that's similar to what I say when nobody wants to take the blame (preps) nice vid bro keep it up
Hahahaha
Great tip.can I use this method on a white car .concerned about body filler staining the area?.thanks
No it didn't on this color the Clare was very hard and cured
what is the name of the filler your using can you give us a link
That is Awesome job my friend 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👍👍
Thank you!!!
What kind of putty is that? I have a situation where the clear coat is a orange-peely near a crease (so I don't want to cut away past the clear and into the color and beyond on the crease
spot on
Awesome... What brand haze putty ? What it look like?
That's a nice flow indicator . Tell customer no extra charge for clear lol
Hahahaha
I did a horrible job with masking my car.. I sprayed my car with white base and a pearl on top it came out great and once I removed my masking tape I realized I did a horrible job masking the car because I have like a half inch of the car on all the borders that have no paint .. how can I fix this it’s a very small area of the car with no paint but it’s all around the car I don’t want to repaint eh car so I was wondering if you had advise on how to cover this area with paint
that was a great job guys....👍👌
Thank you!
Thanks for the video
What type putty did you use? Thank you
I’ve color sanding cars 10hrs after being clear coated, (NOT baked with lamps) and have never had problems, although I’m in AZ and we have zero humidity so maybe that’s why?
I like the turn the wheel so u get the dirty water gets on the tire and not the wheel method. Pre-planned or just happened to be turned?
Uhh yeah we ment to do that 🙄🙄🙄🙄 😂
Awesome class turned out right..cuidate
Thank you brother !
I've done this a few times. It's a psychological thing too because u sand the same spot for 30 mins but u really barely touch the clear
I love this trick. Helps a lot lol
Sweet!!
Perfect man
nice work man, also you can use Razor to knock down that run
Were can I buy that block? Name?
Excellent! Glad I caught this video because I'm worried about sags on my project. What generally causes sag
It can be few things what cause sags/runs , your paint gun is on wrong setup, or you laying your paint or clear too heavy and from too close. It also can be if your mixture isnt right , if u use more reducer it also can make it run as well . Make sure your PSI on your compressor is not higher that 50/55 or if your compressor is a big guy then set it between 15/25 psi. I hope I could help
@@arestheeurodobie9207 thank you so much.
Spray gun question: What if your spray gun is an hlvp gun but the cfm or you compressor is les than 5. Can I compensate using a lower psi or is the gun specifically designed to operate on a compressor that's more than 10?
typical spray gun will require low pressure, and HIGH volume, FAR more than any standard compressor yields. This one, for example, requires between 0-70 PSI, but 12 CFM. 12 CFM is far more than ANY standard compressor provides, not even in bursts. Or, this one, requires 10-14CFM .
@@maxie9506 now here is what I van tell you , HVLP spray guns are awesome more pros than cons with them , like pros: high transfer rate , 60-80% transfer rate (compare to a commercial guns whitch are usually not more that 38% ). Low over spray , reduced materials, low emission, uses low pressure to atomizer materials while putting out high volume , but they aren't perfect some of the cons: are Thick paint , more $$$, needs more volume. But in overall you have a beautiful gun :)
Hope I could help
Awesome trick more tips and tricks bro
Awesome!!!!🔥
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Very nice.. Good job
Thank you!!!
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Gabe i see on ur kness
Friend ....u most wear knee bads or something ur ur knees
Talk to me about not having notting under ur knees. Keep up the good work ....love to see young painters that love this trade
Thank you so much man ! You are right I should !
Bom trabalho amigo ...acompanho seus vídeos de São Paulo Brazil sou apaixonado por repintura automotiva ...
Will this work with getting rid of a paint run on metallic paint job.
Not on single stage
my coworker did this but only with machine and 320 to 500 grid ... :D
Hey gabe great job, how long did it take you from start to finish?
30 mins
Wow! That's pretty quick...good job!
Still need to try this trick, seems easier than cutting away with a blade. Is there a putty that works best for doing this
Yeah sometimes it is !! If the run is smaller then I just blade it
Whereabouts in Canada are you located?
I"m in Canada too, near Toronto.
Great vid, gained a sub.
Glad you liked it! The shop I work at is in Oakville
No razor blade manoeuvre?
Nice 🤘😎
No solevent pops ? Lol just asking ..
Que tip me das para buffear porque yo quemo las body lines
Que puedo acer para no quemar las body lines
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Fine line tape. Y no vallas tan rápido
Ok gracias
hey dude had to watch this one lol never tried that method myself i just use the carbide blades but great video dude
Thank you so much !!!! That means a lot to me !!!;😍😍
lol dont be daft your well above me now buddy you will soon be soaring high on youtube fella keep it up
Nice job, I tried that method, I prefer Carbide also. ...you did a very nice video!!
We are all on this together !
Tonys_Refinishing. What carbide Blades ????? Please i dont know whoo is this
It works, best not to get the run in the first place...but then how would you learn!?
I don't get runs like this very often anymore (22 years) but if I do this technique is great!
I have 7 years to go!
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That looks like a pretty big place you work at where is it? I am in Winnipeg Manitoba Canada. Are use PPG, what are you spraying?
Oakville Ontario budds collision
How come you don't use the foam pad question
I did use whool and foam
This might sound a bit thick but what is Putty. I'm from the UK.
try it a couple of times it works
Hey guys listen when you do a sending with a putty , you have to work your way up or down , so you remove the putty before you get yo the run , its easier that way so you can see where your high spots are still remaining . But good job guys :)
Everyone is different. I drag a razor over the run and its gone in 5 minutes. The razor only removes the run . then block it with a 1000 then 2000 and your done and the run is gone. Think of how many 240 scratches your trying to dig out of the clear. i watched like a minute of this video and had to stop write this. Plus if the clear is not cured you got a big mess on your hands
frank artale I use the same exact method
razor blades work on small runs,the problem is that most people stop short of getting the run completely flat before blocksandind,and then you have can always see a wiggle when polished.The time that it takes to make it look undetectible is sometimes longer than just cutting it out and respraying it...
Calm down Randy.
Great trick......now to give it a shot on my latest fuck up being a big nasty drip that came off the gun in 2k laquer,thanks.
Have fun haha
Isn't guide coat just corn starch?
Hahaha I don't know haha
Anyone that can save that has some serious skills. I would have blocked out and reshot
What block is that ?
Kxk
Ya never charge for extra clear!
U must have 10 coats of clear on that fender 😜
Will this work on metallic runs too
Nope
@@MOTIVATEDPAINTERS so sanding it flat and repainting
i tried it but you coule still see the run ablittle but
You had to keep going
Get you a Mirka shark blade.
There are 22 people who actually disliked this masterpiece....
Yes because they cannot figure out how to avoid getting runs in the first place,certainly not smart enough to employ this technique! Edit😆 runs happen, best technique I've used! Good job boys keep it up.
Hahahahaha this was the best comment 😂🙌🏼
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5000 trizs... then go to sponge not back down to wool...
Glad you watched the video
@@MOTIVATEDPAINTERS , keep up the content... I wish you tons of success on your channel.
Wow! 😱
5k grit 🤯🤯🤯 got dam lol 3k would of been fine to buff on
They got 8k grit coming out soon now too lmao
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You must of put alot of clear on not to go through
so what did you use ? you said putty, so was it spot putty or bondo ?
Two part putty
What two part putty ? does it have a name ?
Metal glaze ultra
What kind of clear was on this car and how many coats of clear?
Ppg ec530 I applied 3 coats on the fender because I knew I was going to send it
What compound and putty are you using? I have
Upol dolphin glaze and was wondering will it work
Mamzerna
@@MOTIVATEDPAINTERS thanks i couldnt hear you well i thought you said serna
Does this work for certain paint?
Should work with everything
That's a lot of lacquer 😄
Just a bit! Hahaha
Wool pad I see why now 😁😉
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People need to stop doing this. USE TAPE gives exactly the same protection to the surrounding paintwork but is easier to apply without the risk of a burn through when chasing away dolphin glaze
You dont match the factory orange peel?
I try not to 😛
And the gunman used a piece of tungsten or a razerblade to cut the run then add the putty
There are many ways to do it my friend 😁
The gunmans trick
He invented huh?
MOTIVATED PAINTERS no he said he learned it from an instructor back in the day. But he is the first guy I seen do it
Then is not the gunman's? I don't get your comment and the purpose of it
lol
What's the heck is putty
Luckily the clear must have been thick .
Y you use the putty???
So you sand the run and not the clear watch the video ☺️
I like pizza! while waiting for delivery, have someone else use a dura-block and some 600 while you wait for the pizza!🤡👍
How about NOT running the clear?? Because all that putty will not get rid of the thousands of tiny air bubbles left behind.
😂😂😂 yes that is the ideal thing 😊😊 this run did not have solvent Pop that only happens when you bake to hot and to fast.
Nola Joe
Brilliant advice !! I never would of thought of that.
You just put regular putty on them
It looks like you burned it on the front of the finger right there by the bottom 🤔🤔🤔
Did you watch the whole video ??? Haha
Sack the guy that done the run 😂😂
I did ! Myself !😂😂
+MOTIVATED PAINTERS sorry boss !! Carry on 😂
To much work for me I’d just re clear the fender
How much clear you got on that thing lol
Not enough 👌🤣
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