What's the difference between Ai Micro-Nikkor 55mm 1:3.5 and Ai-s Micro-Nikkor 55mm 1:2.8

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  • What's the difference between Ai Micro-Nikkor 55mm 1:3.5 and Ai-s Micro-Nikkor 55mm 1:2.8.
    There's actually a lot difference inside the 2 lenses, even if they look almost similar.
    The older 55mm 1:3.5 does NOT have the CRC system.
    The newer 55mm 1:2.8 have the floating lens system CRC (close range correction)
    The 1:3.5 has 6 aperture blades where the 1:2.8 have 7 aperture blades. And they are constructed in a different way.
    The 1:3.5 has 5 lens element's and the 1:2.8 have 6 lens element's in 5 groups.
    The outer helicoid system on the 1:3.5 is constructed "almost" like the 1:2.8.
    Here are some link's to different repair tool's:
    Japan Hobby Tool rubber cone:
    www.amazon.com/Japan-Vacuum-C...
    18 different size rubber repair tool's:
    www.amazon.com/Sizes-Lens-Fil...
    You can also buy this set.
    Lens Repair Set with pointed, flat, half flat tips:
    www.amazon.com/dp/B00QRPWCN0/...
    JIS cross head screw driver's:
    www.amazon.com/Moody-Tools-58...
    Or this set, that is the set I use:
    eustore.ifixit.com/en/Tools/D...
    Lens cleaning wipes (PEC-PAD):
    www.amazon.com/dp/B0161VIZZ8/...
    Thin Cotton Buds x 200 you can buy them here:
    www.muji.eu/pages/online.asp?...
    DSLRKIT Pro Lens Vise Tool Repair Filter Ring Ajustment Steel 27mm to 130mm:
    www.amazon.com/DSLRKIT-Repair...
    Japan Hobby Tool Helical Grease Made in Japan:
    www.amazon.com/Japan-Hobby-He...
    Loctite 222 50ml Threadlocker
    www.amazon.com/Henkel-Loctite...

Komentáře • 30

  • @randallstewart175
    @randallstewart175 Před rokem +17

    Before you waste 40 minutes expecting otherwise, know that this video is all about lens disassembly and mechanical construction, and does not address comparative optical performance, reasons for optical differences or general usability. I bought an FM when they first came out and a Micro 55mm 3.5. When the new Micro 55mm 2.8 came out, I bought it to use as a general purpose lens on the FM, selling the 55mm 3.5. The big difference between the two lenses is that 3.5 goes back to before 1959 and was always designed to be a macro lens, without regard to performance at non- close up focus distances. The 2.8 was Nikon's first "floating element" lens, which adapts zoom lens design to alter the optical performance of the lens as it is focused. In effect, the 2.8 is optimized both for macro and normal focal distances. The 2.8 is a wonderful general purpose lens. Optically excellent. It's a hair less so in the macro distance, but much superior at non-macro use. Compared to the following 60mm 2.8 (either the initial manual version or the auto-focus version), the 55mm is a better at normal distances, but not as good at macro. Overall, the Micro 60mm is more like the last Micro 55mm 3.5.

  • @tomc8273
    @tomc8273 Před 4 lety +4

    Hi Kenneth; Great video as always! This lens was used on our machinery to inspect other lenses, very sharp focus. Thanks.

    • @mikeno62
      @mikeno62  Před 4 lety

      Oh thank's Tom, Interesting infomation.

  • @ikonomid19601
    @ikonomid19601 Před 4 lety +1

    Even better insight on how the 55/3,5 can be disassembled and put back together; complements your previous videos. Thanks again!!

  • @bartwaggoner2000
    @bartwaggoner2000 Před 4 lety +3

    Fascinating and great idea to have this comparison - I have the F3.5 and it is so lightweight I would think it is cheap, except it is Nikkor. Now I know at least part of the weight difference is it has one less element, and the elements are not nearly as thick.

  • @hurleygreen927
    @hurleygreen927 Před 3 lety +2

    MANY THANKS FOR THIS VIDEO! I got a used 55mm 1:2.8 on EBAY and thought it would only be good for macro photography but happily found out otherwise!
    Once you get used to the manual focusing, you discover the image quality and sharpness are fantastic...I appreciate your tutorial on the lens differences THANK

  • @migrodz
    @migrodz Před 4 lety +1

    many thanks for posting these videos, I do disassemble, clean and repair my lenses by watching your videos.

  • @raphaelgomesferreira
    @raphaelgomesferreira Před 4 lety +2

    Thanks for your video!

  • @terrywbreedlove
    @terrywbreedlove Před 2 lety +2

    I have the 55mm micro ais and shoot it on my F3hp. I love this little lens so sharp and of course close focusing. I don’t ever shoot true macro but i do also have the PK 13 extension tube if I ever do. Bought both together at a yard sale about 5 years ago for $75.

    • @yixuanniu5482
      @yixuanniu5482 Před rokem

      Hey!
      I've been using my recently purchased F3 with a 50mm 1.4ais and am not too happy with the sharpness, and I just ordered a pretty mint conditioned 55mm 2.8 macro, I would Love to see your photos with this combo if you feel ok to share some with me!!!

  • @mckind2075
    @mckind2075 Před 4 lety +2

    Hi Kenneth, I've already told you how much I appreciate your tutorials more than once. Now a challenge for you: I bought a Nikkor 300 f/4 AF w/o iris blades and I've got the spare blades. Only, I'm not sure how to proceed to disassemble it. Any clue? thanks

  • @richardsisk1770
    @richardsisk1770 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Interesting! I inherited the f2.8 version but the aperture doesn’t stop down. I opened the mount and was not able to fix it.
    I just ordered an f3.5 in mint condition and it should arrive from Japan in a couple of days. Thanks!

  • @randallstewart175
    @randallstewart175 Před rokem

    The only knock on the 55mm 2.8 which is fairly well established is that its lubrication has a tendency far more than Nikkors generally to migrate onto the aperture leaves, causing them to stick. People having to have their lenses disassembled and cleaned, often more than once, used to be a regular drum roll of complaints. The community of owners used to recommend that the lens be stored on its rear mount and hot environments be avoided. I've had mine for 45 years and never had the problem, but where there's smoke, there's fire. I'm not an expert, but I attribute this problem to the 2.8 being Nikon's first use of the floating element optical design, which may have introduced some odd lubrication issues, which seem to have been resolved in later lenses.

  • @AlanMF00
    @AlanMF00 Před 4 lety +1

    I first bought the f2.8 37 years ago and took thousands of good pictures with it. It was the absolute favorite of all my lenses. It was stolen, along with all my gear, 23 years ago, and I'm just getting around to replacing equipment with the latest stuff, but on a retiree budget.
    I recently bought a 24-85mm f3.5-4.5 lens on Ebay, which turned out to have a somewhat sticky zoom. Following your general lead, I partly disassembled it and found that two plastic sleeves slide against one another, and some other plastic bits also slide against one another. These sliding actions seem to generate the stickiness.
    Now I'm stuck trying to figure out how to disassemble the lens further. I see no obvious way to do it. Any suggestions?

  • @dixonchen4495
    @dixonchen4495 Před 3 lety +1

    quite interesting

  • @ericgreen7880
    @ericgreen7880 Před 2 lety

    Very interesting video. I owner vintage lens Micro-Nikkor-PC Auto 3.5/55mm (non AI) . What adapters I need to xt2 fuji . I bought it to scan negatives. Thanks 😊

  • @soulbronumberone
    @soulbronumberone Před 2 lety

    Hi Kenneth, long-time subcriber here. I have a F3.5 micro with bad fungus under front element. I have gone as far as removing the whole front lens group from lens body but struggle to disassemble the lens group itself. I used nail vanish remover to soak in possible gaps mulitple times, heating up lens group before trying to unscrew it further both from the front (possible retaining ring) and from the back (2 types of metal finish and a small gap between them) but without success. Any suggestion on disassembling the front lens group will be much appreciated. Thanks.

    • @mikeno62
      @mikeno62  Před 2 lety +1

      I have to check on my lens too, and make a video about that issue sooner.

  • @MprivetM
    @MprivetM Před 3 lety

    How is distortion on f3.5 one? I'm looking to adapt it on my fuji for digitalizing negatives, so macro sharpnes and focus distance is my priority, after distortion...

    • @damerlasudhir
      @damerlasudhir Před 3 lety +2

      Very low distortion. I’m using with the macro adapter extension to digitise slides on the z7 I.

  • @LavikkaPhotography
    @LavikkaPhotography Před 4 lety +2

    I have nice examples of both lenses. performance wise they are very close but the f2.8 is sharper wide open and is only usable to f16. The f3.5 is soft wide open but performs well at f22.

    • @mikeno62
      @mikeno62  Před 4 lety +2

      Yeah Lavikka, they are both very good lenses, and I also think they are very close in ther performence. I think it's interesting the way they render the picture wide open and like you said, the 2.8 is shaper full open than the a bit softer 3.5.

  • @pcfxr4u
    @pcfxr4u Před 4 lety

    Hello Kenneth,
    Perhaps this is a foolish question...Would an ultrasonic cleaner be able to clean a lens without any disassembly? Assuming a new solution, and a clean tank. Then a second cleaning with new solution. I know it would remove oils and grease, but in my pea brain, it seems plausible...what do you think?
    Thanks,
    Larry

  • @Koontish
    @Koontish Před 4 lety

    Dear Kenneth
    I need your help! I've recently dropped my Nikon 18-35 f3.5-4.5 on it's face.While the front element suffered not scratched, the focus ring is now jammed. When I press the focus button, I still hear sounds. To be it seems like it has been misaligned after the drop.
    Is there any way you can help me please? Is there an email address I can reach you at for your services?

  • @trevorbartels1730
    @trevorbartels1730 Před 4 lety

    Hi, can you do lens cleaning and helix tutorial Micro-Nikkor 55mm 1:3.5 ?

    • @mikeno62
      @mikeno62  Před 4 lety

      Sorry Trevor, I do not have repair service. But if I buy Micro-Nikkor 55mm 1:3.5, I will make a video about it.

  • @evelasq1
    @evelasq1 Před 4 lety +1

    The 3.5 looks less complicated to disassemble and reassemble.

    • @mikeno62
      @mikeno62  Před 4 lety +1

      That's true, the 3.5 is "more simple" than the 2.8.

  • @nickfanzo
    @nickfanzo Před 3 lety

    Eikoh hosoe